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Title: Exchange rate on top of forum
Post by: Kais on July 21, 2013, 01:05:01 AM
I would like a small area on the top blue bar of the forum that lists the current exchange rate. Nothing big, maybe just normal text in between "Hello Kais and July 21, 2013, 08:02:48 AM  *"

What do you think?


Title: Re: Exchange rate on top of forum
Post by: Kluge on July 21, 2013, 01:15:03 AM
Fwiw, almost every browser has a ticker icon plugin/extension/whatever, and can often be configured for which exchange(s) you want data from, and sometimes will handle alternative virtual currencies like Litecoin, Devcoin, and similar.


Title: Re: Exchange rate on top of forum
Post by: Kais on July 21, 2013, 04:42:35 AM
Fwiw, almost every browser has a ticker icon plugin/extension/whatever, and can often be configured for which exchange(s) you want data from, and sometimes will handle alternative virtual currencies like Litecoin, Devcoin, and similar.

I know that, but for some reason Chrome is taking up SO much memory with each tab and extensions (I use three) that I don't want to slow it down anymore. And my Windows Gadget bitcoin ticker hasn't worked for months.


Title: Re: Exchange rate on top of forum
Post by: Dougie on July 21, 2013, 06:52:58 AM
You could probably write a javascript addon for your browser too. I use greasemonkey for firefox and I know you don't need any addon for opera. Not sure about chrome though. I try not to get to hung up on the cost but you could just use one of the desktop programs and set it to always on top at the corner of your desktop or something.

Just some alternatives since I don't see this suggestion being implemented.


Title: Re: Exchange rate on top of forum
Post by: Moogle on July 21, 2013, 11:02:35 PM
Good suggestion though. I'd like to see it added :-)


Title: Re: Exchange rate on top of forum
Post by: TheButterZone on July 22, 2013, 12:24:04 AM
Good idea. 24 hour average of all exchanges, currency localized to user.


Title: Re: Exchange rate on top of forum
Post by: gmaxwell on July 22, 2013, 12:55:02 AM
I think it's not a great idea.

Posting the exchange rate furthers the screwed up perception that Bitcoin is just a proxy for the USD. It also encourages more emotional involvement with the price roller coaster.  Over focusing on USD/BTC prices may encourage regulators to argue that Bitcoin isn't its own valuable asset but is instead some kind of shell game to move around USD (which is a crappy argument, but it's made stronger the more people fixate on the exchange rate).

Then you have an issue of _which_ price? There are multiple exchanges, the prices are different... the differences are real and reflect complicated things like people's trust of the exchange itself.  And then even if you look at a single exchange— the last trade price is the last trade price. It may have nothing to do with what you can trade for now, etc.

It's not reasonable for all things, but what I'd like to see is more goods and services being priced actually in Bitcoin without reference to USD, because without that we won't have price stability. Promoting the market prices would be a step in the wrong direction.

Now, if someone wanted some kind of optional ticker thing, sounds fine to me, but you can do that via a browser addon...


Title: Re: Exchange rate on top of forum
Post by: Kais on July 22, 2013, 01:36:58 AM
I think it's not a great idea.

Posting the exchange rate furthers the screwed up perception that Bitcoin is just a proxy for the USD. It also encourages more emotional involvement with the price roller coaster.  Over focusing on USD/BTC prices may encourage regulators to argue that Bitcoin isn't its own valuable asset but is instead some kind of shell game to move around USD (which is a crappy argument, but it's made stronger the more people fixate on the exchange rate).

Then you have an issue of _which_ price? There are multiple exchanges, the prices are different... the differences are real and reflect complicated things like people's trust of the exchange itself.  And then even if you look at a single exchange— the last trade price is the last trade price. It may have nothing to do with what you can trade for now, etc.

It's not reasonable for all things, but what I'd like to see is more goods and services being priced actually in Bitcoin without reference to USD, because without that we won't have price stability. Promoting the market prices would be a step in the wrong direction.

Now, if someone wanted some kind of optional ticker thing, sounds fine to me, but you can do that via a browser addon...

I think I agree. You have a really good point. Anyone who wants to can always check the exchange rate at any time outside of this forum. But to "encourage" what you were talking about, it IS a good idea not to have it here. It makes a lot of sense.

I would still like to have it though  :P


Title: Re: Exchange rate on top of forum
Post by: tysat on July 22, 2013, 03:46:31 AM
I think a price ticker on this website isn't needed.  You can get something else to do it yourself, or just check another website.  Why the need to check the price so often anyways?


Title: Re: Exchange rate on top of forum
Post by: Kais on July 22, 2013, 07:33:53 AM
I just like to look at it regularly.

I also look at the Thai Baht/USD exchange rate on a regular basis. I guess it has the same purpose. I own: Bitcoins, US Dollars, and Thai Baht. All three are of value to me and I exchange each of them somewhat regularly.


Title: Re: Exchange rate on top of forum
Post by: btcton on July 22, 2013, 04:05:57 PM
I think it's not a great idea.

Posting the exchange rate furthers the screwed up perception that Bitcoin is just a proxy for the USD. It also encourages more emotional involvement with the price roller coaster.  Over focusing on USD/BTC prices may encourage regulators to argue that Bitcoin isn't its own valuable asset but is instead some kind of shell game to move around USD (which is a crappy argument, but it's made stronger the more people fixate on the exchange rate).

Then you have an issue of _which_ price? There are multiple exchanges, the prices are different... the differences are real and reflect complicated things like people's trust of the exchange itself.  And then even if you look at a single exchange— the last trade price is the last trade price. It may have nothing to do with what you can trade for now, etc.

It's not reasonable for all things, but what I'd like to see is more goods and services being priced actually in Bitcoin without reference to USD, because without that we won't have price stability. Promoting the market prices would be a step in the wrong direction.

Now, if someone wanted some kind of optional ticker thing, sounds fine to me, but you can do that via a browser addon...
+1. I don't think it should be in the forums for this. I'll be writing an extension soon for myself in Chrome, but I'll share it if I see anybody else needs it.


Title: Re: Exchange rate on top of forum
Post by: greyhawk on July 22, 2013, 05:01:11 PM
The forums are slow enough without having to poll exchanges every few milliseconds.

Wait, that would actually be pretty funny, when the forums slow to a crawl next mt gox lag. Can you imagine the pure panic? http://www.strubenhoff.de/Smiley/loveeyes.gif


Title: Re: Exchange rate on top of forum
Post by: flipper on July 23, 2013, 02:09:15 AM
Not a good idea. Tracking btc exchange rate is not the goal of these forums.


Title: Re: Exchange rate on top of forum
Post by: bitcoindigi on July 23, 2013, 06:29:33 AM
good idea OP.

there is enough spare space on the top for mtgox/btc-e prices.


Title: Re: Exchange rate on top of forum
Post by: btcton on July 24, 2013, 03:52:36 PM
good idea OP.

there is enough spare space on the top for mtgox/btc-e prices.
There are enough reasons as to why not. Check the posts above.