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When i am looking at a total market cap at Coinmarketcap, I cannot help but wonder what if a big investors in cryptocurrencies makes a move to cash out at this time. And i'm sure that traditional bitcoin holders believe in HODL. But lately, the cash inflow that we have seen in this market is probably big institutional investors. And they will be looking to exit at some point with huge profits.

So if and when that happens, I feel there will be a huge decline.

What are your thoughts?

Then a lot of people will cry and curse.   

 :D

With the acceleration of bitcoin you must be in a real need for cash to sell bitcoins. Big whales have no interest to sell until the bitcoin price stay stable for months. My bet is it will grow until the next big crisis. Buy some food and some silverpieces dudes, not much, just enought to survive the next debt crisis (few months).

what does the total market cap has anything to do with an investor cashing out!!!
altcoins get dumped left and right just because every investor (small or big) cashes out of them. specially when bitcoin price is rising.

from day 1 in not only bitcoin but also any other market there are always people who are cashing out and people who are buying in. supply an demand. when those who are buying are bigger than those who are selling, price goes up and when those who are selling are more than those who are buying price comes down.
big or small investor doesn't make any difference they have always been selling at some point and world doesn't end when they do.

That's a valid point.Its true that there are huge big whales in the bitcoin market holding big shares of bitcoins.I think that not all of them would discuss and decide to exit the market at once.So,if they do individually at different times,that would not have any impact on bitcoin's price.But surprisingly,if they decide to quit at same time,then we would follow a slight decline in bitcoin price.But within very short time,BTC price would recover as it still continues to have a huge buy wall including small investors as well as big whales waiting for a slight decline in price to enter the market.So,bitcoin would continue to progress.

The Big Players will never sell all their holdings at the same time or it will cause panic and will end up creating a huge bear wave. They would instead sell gradually as prices go up trying to avoid attention.

With more and more people jumping into btc everyday, yeah i find it hard to think that whales would be cashing out. Some say btc would break 50k usd or even 100k usd. Whales know how to make money and profitable as it may seem now, it would be nothing compared to how much they'll get a year or two from now

Agree with you, big investors cant pull out at the same time and cashing out their bitcoins will only mean new players joining the bitcoin market and it wouldn't really affect the market much despite a  a slight decline in bitcoin price which is expected.
this happening at the same time is highly unlikely

Even when one of the big financial institution will cash out many other might want to take that as good opportunity to buy some cheap bitcoins. So price might just shoot up again after a small correction.

I don't think we will see any big correction on bitcoin atleast till end of this year, other cryptos might go through huge corrections.

Exactly.  The only way someone can sell any bitcoins is if they can find a buyer for them.  The BTC doesn't just magically vanish when someone sells them for fiat cash.  Every sale potentially means one or more new investors.  Critically, the "or more" part.  One person selling a large stash potentially means lots of new investors if they haven't all got enough cash to buy the whole batch.  As prices continue to rise, wealth in Bitcoin will become increasingly diversified over a larger number of participants as more and more people can only afford smaller amounts of BTC.  The more people involved, the harder it is to stop.

Plus, if you are one of those who are primarily concerned with the fiat value of your holdings, remember that the whales won't be selling for peanuts.  They'll be wanting to make profits.  And extra volume is usually seen as a sign of good health.  If you think about it, as with all markets, Bitcoin needs the occasional dump in order to avoid stagnating.  It's not something to fear and is all quite natural.

Well if they're pulling stunt like that,all of us will shocked as we watch the price crashing down
But if some other big player come while the price is crash,i think it will be back again in the top
So it depend on the new investor really

I hope they do. Maybe transactions will start confirming again after the bubble burst. I'm not paaying 100$ to get confirmation, bitcoin and it's miners can go fk themselvs.

If big investors cash out, they will lose money and a chance to multiply his investments. Prices of token will plummet and people with btc and ETH are going to buy at cheaper price.

And why should I even bother to check the marketcap??????
The market cap depends on the price as it's just equal to number of coins x price per coin.
If somebody decides to sell 50 000 coins on one exchange and crash the price to 1000$ , why should I be worried about the marketcap?
Everyone would just look at the current price, that is what matters.

The whole marketcap debate with the comparison to gdp or companies worth should just end once for all. It is used only by newbies and by altcoins shills to promote their crapcoins.
During the last crash the drop in marketcap was 10 billions more than the entire market volume.


On day 1 if somebody would have sold 1000BTC a few kids would have been able to buy in with their monthly allowance and keep the price at the same level.
If somebody sells now 1000BTC you're going to need a lot of kids. I dunno if even Santa has that much in North Pole Bank.
 

I think that a big investor became a big investor because he knows what he is doing.
Throwing all coins on the market at once would have some impact to the price if a big investor would dothat.
That includes the coins the investor owns. No investor would intentionally damage his fortune.
If somebody with a lot of coins decides to cash out, he would do that in small steps.

Everyone should prepare for a major correction in the price... when this will be, is not known. They say, What goes up, must

come down.... and this is true for Bitcoin too. I am taking profits on the high end, so I cover my own ass for the future.  ;D

I can do that, because I already reached my ROI with Bitcoin. Once you are past the break even point, you should take some

profits. {DO NOT re-invest everything}  ::)

If big investors cashes out, exchanges bitcoin to dollars, normally what happens if we do follow and believe the law of demand and supply, bitcoin price will drastically decrease. It depends on how many percentage or how many big investors/ large scale investors will cash out. But we should always think and remember that the law of demand and supply in the perspective of the economics is not the only factor of the price of bitcoin. It does not relay with it alone. But what is certain, big investors, who we know are also the top billionaires around the world are not dumb to do that for no good reason. Because they have the main goal to appreciate their wealth.

If this happens, then it gonna be a nice opportunity to buy cheap bitcoins. However, there is no guarantee that the bitcoin price will come back to its highest prices if an enormous crash occurs.

When big investors cash out the price of Bitcoin and crypto will most likely plummet. They will be able to cash out billions for the same $20 fee that everyone else has to pay to send small amounts of money. I imagine the price will drop nearly to 0 as everyone rushes to sell.

If big investors or that they are referring as crypto whale suddenly decided to cash out and people buying btc is lesser then that could already make bitcoins crashed but then as btc become more popular everyday and more people is buying even big amount is cashed out btc would still survived and recover.

Yes there will be correction definitely but it will be impact positively. As every time when price of Bitcoin goes up it means user (especially newbies) get interested in to bitcoin. And at the same time who already HODL bitcoins sell at market price to get profit in fiat currency. But this is just one time opportunity for everyone to get benefit from Bitcoins. As it gives just one time return for supporting Bitcoins. But if user wish to invest again then, he must have to pay more than whatever he invested and at what price. By this way Bitcoin have already concerned its position. And now its one the most precious investment platform open for everyone.

some people will stressed out, and the other will take the chance. always like that even in a little market, when panic sell happen, in some trading group there are people who loss and people who take profit on that

If a big investor cash out a large amount of Bitcoin, Bitcoin price will dip if there is not enough buyers who are willing to buy at the current market price. Some panic might happen and the dip goes on for 1 or 2 days.

If a big investor cash out then it'll be even less noticeable than ever. The market will gobble it up like it's nothing.

Marketcap for me is not significant. You can even see some shitcoins you have huge marketcap but still undervalued. But if big investors decided to sell and dump their coins and cash it out, of course the price would dramatically feel causing panic selling. However, you have to realized that there are thousand of investors big and casual alike who are waiting in line to get bitcoins. So the effect of this scenario will be short term only. Maybe after a week or so, bitcoin is back again from its normal price and can go even further as the previous all-time-high. History already taught us that is always been the case. Just look back few months ago when all this Chinese anti-bitcoin policy came out. The price drops, however, it has recovered and look at where we are standing right now.

This is actually a huge issue I think. People have long worried about satoshi waking up after his slumber to cash out his coins. If he ever does then I'm sure people will cry about bitcoin being the biggest ponzi in history when the price tanks immediately. I don't even think he would have to sell many to cause people to panic either as even a single satoshi moving from one of his addresses would cause hysteria as people panic and start to dump their coins fearing the worse. I worry about big investors like the Winklevii twins as well as they have a billion dollars in the coin now but they seem to personally believe bitcoin could be worth ten times what it is now so hopefully they will keep holding.


So what you expect them to do exactly? Just hold all their coins forever? At one point the whales are going to want to cash out. Doesn't matter whether you have 100 dollars in bitcoin or one hundred million, at some point people will want to see that cash in their bank or money in their pocket as opposed to just numbers on a screen/blockchain. Bitcoin is still a risky and speculative investment after all and most intelligent peole realize this and know it can crash at any point so there will be a time for all of us when we want out.

I just helped a  whale to cashout about 150 bitcoins in less than a day from 3 different exchangers. And , under my advice, he will spend a bit of earned FIAT for sell bitcoin futures when he will go to sell other 1200 bitcoin he has. So a whale always have an “umbrella “ for protect him when start raining.

First of all , there have not been any scenario in which there is a cashing out by big investors at once . Many investors cash out on regular basis . Does that effect bitcoin ? No , because the overall investment , demand and supply remains ever increasing in the case of bitcoin .
There are many big and small scale investors who have invested in bitcoin and collectively they make the market very strong . The cashing out does not takes place collectively .               

Of course, if a big whale decides to cash out all his funds, the market will be bleeding at that moment.

But it happened a lot of times in the past, when this kind of issue happens, the price got reduced by a little,
and a lot of people take advantage of that to buy bitcoin at a reduced price.

This is something called a little dump, when you see a bearish trend of more than $500 a lot of people start doing fud, but in the other side, a lot of people are buying in order to buy cheaper than before.


A big whale could just be someone who is holding 400 bitcoins and above.

I don't think the worry is if big investors cash out so much as if the entire market goes into a panic. Big investors are a large stake but nothing that would cripple the market. It is the overall market mentality that matters more.

They are not going to do that or they are going to crash the market and lose money in the process, whales are waiting for bitcoin to become mainstream to cashout, bitcoin has a low liquidity so there is no way to buy their coins, but once everyone gets in bitcoin, liquidity is not going to be a problem.

Who are big investor? Last 24h BTC had 636.173BTC volume of transaction more than $12billion.
Well some ppl says that Roger Ver has 300.000BTC, if he cash out all your BTC, i guess that can crash the price for some days.

But i don't think that someone will burn hundred thousands of BTC in a single day.

We could not say who handles the big investment in bitcoin so far, but possible that those in big names like Bill Gates and Trumph who are endorsing bitcoin was for sure has a big number of bitcoin, no doubt about that. But with a millyon btc out there for sure that it has a less effect in the price when they cash out since many investors are willing to buy btc.

The big investors are smart guys and no one would like to lose the future profits because of some small reward right now. The twin brothers also confirmed they are holding their BTC as they expect further price increase 10-20 times of current price, which is very likely as Bitcoin is going more mainstream every day thus attaracting more investors. Even after this, they will be selling only small portions to keep the price stable.

To be honest i really do not see anyone selling a whole lot of bitcoins in one quick sell. The way the price is going up they would be shooting themselves in the foot. Now maybe someone wants to go crazy and buy a private island for like 100 million. That sell would not make of a difference at this point in my opinion.