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Title: How to avoid SCAM ICOs?
Post by: nrm4bits on December 16, 2017, 01:44:24 PM
This was the original post made by me in this thread you can still share your comments.

What was your favorite project that scamed you  ;D.

Right know I’m being part of a signature campaign called Project C, so far I don’t know –nobody knows for sure - if it will be a scam or not, as a matter of fact I just don’t care, because it is helping me to improve my posts’ quality, besides that I hope it is not a scam. Saying all that what was your favorite scam project you were involved in?

But i would like to know what steps do you follow before joining an ICO ? What makes you decide to join an ICO or not?


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: namjar on December 16, 2017, 11:54:44 PM
It did not scammed me, but i was happy because i wanted to invest in VisaCoin, it seemed to be a good ico,
 but twelve hours later from the releasing of the first ico stage, the page went down and no one knew about it anymore.

What was your favorite project that scamed you  ;D.

Project C is the most scammy project that i have ever seen! Just look at how the manager is talking to their members, they are bullshit. They do not know how to run a campaign, they do not even know how to manage their ANN Thread because they do not even have a community manager

Right know I’m being part of a signature campaign called Project C, so far I don’t know –nobody knows for sure - if it will be a scam or not, as a matter of fact I just don’t care

Avoid that project like the PEST.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: furfurol on December 17, 2017, 12:12:27 AM
What was your favorite project that scamed you  ;D.

Right know I’m being part of a signature campaign called Project C, so far I don’t know –nobody knows for sure - if it will be a scam or not, as a matter of fact I just don’t care, because it is helping me to improve my posts’ quality, besides that I hope it is not a scam. Saying all that what was your favorite scam project you were involved in?

I guess you are participating in the signature campaign of this project, because they pay bitcoins for posts, and not just because of the improvement in the quality of your posts  8) I think it's a very strange project


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: retampan on December 17, 2017, 12:36:24 AM
Ah, Project C? That unethical project? Just look his untrusted feedback, he is known as scammer from the past. I've just sent him a neg trust, one day after, he and his partner from Litra (JPnotmorgan) sent me a neg trust, too. He allows newbie & red tagged users to enroll in his campaign, what an irony. Also, he paid more bitcoins than the usual payment to deceiving bitcointalk users.
However, I'm have not been scammed by any ICO, though. I'm just investing in trusted projects that have many reviews about it.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: @ngelcryptopia on December 17, 2017, 12:59:21 AM
What a discreet way to promote project C.
I was following two projects and then the person running it just disappeared. Those are one man show that deceive people with the promise of airdrop, their link still on BCT
infinity pay   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2322857.0;topicseen
drop answer   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2349317.0;topicseen


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: desi92 on December 17, 2017, 08:22:21 AM
What was your favorite project that scamed you  ;D.

Right know I’m being part of a signature campaign called Project C, so far I don’t know –nobody knows for sure - if it will be a scam or not, as a matter of fact I just don’t care, because it is helping me to improve my posts’ quality, besides that I hope it is not a scam. Saying all that what was your favorite scam project you were involved in?


Scam or not we will know that in future so not now. If something happen to investor and the developer can not help seems like then project is scam.
So far, i ever join 1 success project but i dont get paid. Most people get paid and some people have same thing like me. They dont get paid too. The project looks great but i dont know why they dont pay me for my effort. The project called "Centra ".
But i dont care since i just join the social media bounty, maybe if they pay me it will not big amount.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: Azzhan on December 17, 2017, 09:28:11 AM
What was your favorite project that scamed you  ;D.

Right know I’m being part of a signature campaign called Project C, so far I don’t know –nobody knows for sure - if it will be a scam or not, as a matter of fact I just don’t care, because it is helping me to improve my posts’ quality, besides that I hope it is not a scam. Saying all that what was your favorite scam project you were involved in?

In my opinion, more than this C project is a scam, most of the ICO projects are a scam, so it is important to choose a good ICO project.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: nrm4bits on December 17, 2017, 03:30:35 PM
I guess you are participating in the signature campaign of this project, because they pay bitcoins for posts, and not just because of the improvement in the quality of your posts  8) I think it's a very strange project

Well, post quality is a fuzzy thing to discuss here in the forum you can find some threads discussing that in Meta section. And yes it's kind of a strange project.

Ah, Project C? That unethical project? Just look his untrusted feedback, he is known as scammer from the past. I've just sent him a neg trust, one day after, he and his partner from Litra (JPnotmorgan) sent me a neg trust, too. He allows newbie & red tagged users to enroll in his campaign, what an irony.

As a matter of facts i haven't looked at his Trust yet, i gotta say things are red in there.

Also, he paid more bitcoins than the usual payment to deceiving bitcointalk users.

Yes, it is suspicious, its week payments is way too high to be true.

What a discreet way to promote project C.

 ;D It's true that i'm doing it but my future purposes for this thread is to gather some of the SCAM ICOs people has been involved in.

I was following two projects and then the person running it just disappeared. Those are one man show that deceive people with the promise of airdrop, their link still on BCT
infinity pay   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2322857.0;topicseen
drop answer   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2349317.0;topicseen

This is one thing i was looking for, an example of scam icos

So far, i ever join 1 success project but i dont get paid. Most people get paid and some people have same thing like me. They dont get paid too. The project looks great but i dont know why they dont pay me for my effort. The project called "Centra ".
But i dont care since i just join the social media bounty, maybe if they pay me it will not big amount.

Not being paid for our efforts it kinds of sucks even if we don't care and if the payment is low.



Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: SilArt on December 17, 2017, 03:33:47 PM
there was a thread with a list of scam ICO here somewhere. Can someone post it? It was a pretty informative thread!


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: LUCKY21 on December 17, 2017, 03:40:44 PM
Recently, among the ICO companies more and more scams come. And this does not please. But in the place so there are quite a few ICO companies that are developing and their tokens are rising in price. We can only hope for a favorable outcome.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: nrm4bits on December 17, 2017, 03:55:03 PM
As cryto-currency popularity increase so will the scam icos, and the truth is that it's kind of hard for an experienced user and for a newbie like me to recognize when an ico will become a scam. There are some hints to start the recognition but still, nobody will know until the end when every participant is scammed.

It could be great if the community join to fight those scam icos.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: kekman1337 on December 17, 2017, 03:56:33 PM
Most scam ICOs are blatant scams with shitty front pages and copy-pasted material on their sites. Others actually include scammers in their 'team', and you need to do some digging and research to find such things. It's difficult to do for every ICO but there are usually people that do the heavy lifting in most ICO threads.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: mdgabrielzim on December 17, 2017, 04:06:44 PM
Boy I do not remember the name, it was a single aimed at the well being and health of the user. I gave them several jobs and in the second month I discovered that it was a fraud. I lost time and a lot of work.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: Igorgnome on December 17, 2017, 04:45:16 PM
I do not understand why to participate in the ICO, when such strong doubts. You can choose another company to helping you to improve your posts’ quality. ???  I admit a small chance that it is not a SCAM, but simply poor quality approach to organizations ICO.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: sensimilia on December 17, 2017, 04:47:25 PM
There's enough ico's, you're bound to find a good oe amongst the scam projects. Although it's easier to stumble upon a scam.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: nrm4bits on December 17, 2017, 09:19:10 PM
I do not understand why to participate in the ICO, when such strong doubts. You can choose another company to helping you to improve your posts’ quality. ???  I admit a small chance that it is not a SCAM, but simply poor quality approach to organizations ICO.

So true, and that's what i'm going to do after Dec 20. And even if

There are enough ico's, you're bound to find a good oe amongst the scam projects. Although it's easier to stumble upon a scam.

The same problem still out there, SCAM ICOs, it's hard to really know when you're facing a fake ICO or not, although most of them probably are scam.

So the question still the same: What can we do to decrease SCAM ICOs ?


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: Jonky10 on December 17, 2017, 09:49:54 PM
The only ICO that scammed me was glu token, I participated in the ICO and everything disappeared into thin air.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: macartem on December 17, 2017, 09:54:24 PM
Now there are a lot of scam-campaigns, and almost all of them have a Russian-speaking team


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: Antikais on December 17, 2017, 10:09:39 PM
trueflip was totaly scam. first they stole our bounty coins and now i see they are not even at any exchange.. i wonder how many tickets they sell every day.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: anilffff on December 17, 2017, 10:21:46 PM
I would like to point out that Joost was the name of some CompSci student that they hacked the LinkedIn profile of. He was never actually involved and is a victim just like the investors. Probably more so, because his name is now synonymous with ICO scam. If crypto continues growing, the wary will constantly be reminding people not to get "Joost'd", and he will never be able to do anything in the sphere


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: UsernameBitcoin on December 17, 2017, 11:28:18 PM
Most ICOs are scams. 90% are just pump and dumps made with the intention of convincing crypto noobs to invest their money into something that is completel and utterly worthless, but on the outside looks like it could be successful or a great idea to the uninformed. It is sad, but the reality of this Wild Wild West environment in crypto right now.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: mrspumpkin on December 17, 2017, 11:31:59 PM
What was your favorite project that scamed you  ;D.

Right know I’m being part of a signature campaign called Project C, so far I don’t know –nobody knows for sure - if it will be a scam or not, as a matter of fact I just don’t care, because it is helping me to improve my posts’ quality, besides that I hope it is not a scam. Saying all that what was your favorite scam project you were involved in?

I don't know about project C. I didn't pay attention to it. I try to enter into more reliable and promising bounty compaign, so I haven't met a scam project yet


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: kristii on December 18, 2017, 12:38:46 AM
Most ICOs are scams. 90% are just pump and dumps made with the intention of convincing crypto noobs to invest their money into something that is completel and utterly worthless, but on the outside looks like it could be successful or a great idea to the uninformed. It is sad, but the reality of this Wild Wild West environment in crypto right now.

This is not true, I know a lot of projects that work fine


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: nrm4bits on December 18, 2017, 03:09:31 AM
Now there are a lot of scam-campaigns, and almost all of them have a Russian-speaking team

About this, the only thing I can say is it must be just coincidence.

Most ICOs are scams. 90% are just pump and dumps made with the intention of convincing crypto noobs to invest their money into something that is completel and utterly worthless, but on the outside looks like it could be successful or a great idea to the uninformed. It is sad, but the reality of this Wild Wild West environment in crypto right now.

I agree with you. Disinformation is the fundamental key for those running a scam ICO, but what can we "crypto noobs" do to avoid getting involve on scams like the few ones you have posted in this thread? Because even if

(...) it is always better to first familiarize yourself with the team, read the white paper, study the road map (...)

in cases where you can find that info, it's not enough.

(...)
This is not true, I know a lot of projects that work fine
Yes and those projects belong to the resting 10%.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: Crown1 on December 18, 2017, 03:17:27 AM
In my opinion, 99 percent of ICO projects are a SCAM, and the truly innovative ICO project is too few, so it's hard to tell.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: rcoins0720 on December 18, 2017, 04:11:14 AM
be careful on that ICO ;D it is the one that I first saw but ignored hahahaha.. I am very choosy now in picking ICO and we have group chats that I followed and best of luck for me we were discussing about campaigns that we are joining... we have legendary members joined and they are bounty managers.. with that I am very sure that they will not scam us ;D. lots of ICO are scam And I can't lie about that .. also we have tha list of those bullshit campaign manager haha..
enjoy earning :)


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: ChristianPogi on December 18, 2017, 04:33:44 AM
What was your favorite project that scamed you  ;D.

Right know I’m being part of a signature campaign called Project C, so far I don’t know –nobody knows for sure - if it will be a scam or not, as a matter of fact I just don’t care, because it is helping me to improve my posts’ quality, besides that I hope it is not a scam. Saying all that what was your favorite scam project you were involved in?


If you can see "C" they don't have an escrow. You must need to avoid this one, and even your post is become quality you only help "C" to scam other. Stop promoting this project. You need to understand the consequences of what you're doing right now.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: Phil419She on December 18, 2017, 07:28:46 AM
What was your favorite project that scamed you  ;D.

Right know I’m being part of a signature campaign called Project C, so far I don’t know –nobody knows for sure - if it will be a scam or not, as a matter of fact I just don’t care, because it is helping me to improve my posts’ quality, besides that I hope it is not a scam. Saying all that what was your favorite scam project you were involved in?


Well at least I know now that Project C is to be avoided. Fortunately for me, Ive never been in scam ICOs, all of the ICO I have participated in paid me. I heard there are ICOs that doesnt pay after , but there are also that pay too little less for their promised payment. Lucky for me Ive only read theses and have not actually experience, it'll be really a waste of time and effort.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: Nureni on December 18, 2017, 08:08:45 AM
I have came across many scam ico. Glutoken, goldmint, ties network.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: darkphoenix2610 on December 18, 2017, 08:16:14 AM
The project of C was a scam just read their project and observe on how they answer the question of the member it was like a jerk, and do you think they can give you a huge amount of bitcoin just to spread their project do you believe on that? just avoid the C project it was scam you just promoting a scam project and help them to gain more profit and beware what is the consequence of it


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: SixOfFive on December 18, 2017, 10:45:44 PM
Project C is the biggest scam I have ever seen. They are asking for money without website, whitepaper, team...I mean nothing but an ANN thread. I don't understand how people trust them and also participating in their bounty.
And ETHbooks....that ICO seems to perfectly genuine and also they showed that they have have achieved their hard cap. People buy token watching its great response but in end they came out to be a scammer.



Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: yura_878 on December 18, 2017, 10:47:48 PM
What was your favorite project that scamed you  ;D.

Right know I’m being part of a signature campaign called Project C, so far I don’t know –nobody knows for sure - if it will be a scam or not, as a matter of fact I just don’t care, because it is helping me to improve my posts’ quality, besides that I hope it is not a scam. Saying all that what was your favorite scam project you were involved in?

If we talk about investing then I have not invested in fraudulent projects, but if there were several of the bounty of which one was Kaîros


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: nexus2k14 on December 18, 2017, 10:58:46 PM
There is 2 ICO's I participated that don't fall directly into category SCAM but are a disappointment too. First is Bankera ICO, that it seems to take forever, so your money is "locked" until end of February 2018, no way to sell or withdraw. They pay dividends that are soo slim that on 100$ you won't even get 0.1$ a week, imagine you put 100$ on exchange and buy anything that is mooning right now. Second ISO is BlackMoonCrypto that failed with the promise to guarantee price on level 0.8$ per BMC for 2 years, funds been drained in 2 months! so you paid 1$/1BMC and now you are bag holder of 1BMC/0.5$ for god knows how long.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: vlast01 on December 19, 2017, 12:00:44 AM
What was your favorite project that scamed you  ;D.

Right know I’m being part of a signature campaign called Project C, so far I don’t know –nobody knows for sure - if it will be a scam or not, as a matter of fact I just don’t care, because it is helping me to improve my posts’ quality, besides that I hope it is not a scam. Saying all that what was your favorite scam project you were involved in?

As my experience in this crypto world there are some bounty campaign that are scammed where all participants doesn't receive any payment/ coins from the ICO inspite of thier hardwork.
But for me I don't encounter such scammed campaign and also i do think like you to that i just don't care if its scam or not atleast they help me to improve.


Title: Re: SCAM ICOs?
Post by: nrm4bits on December 19, 2017, 02:16:26 AM
(...)I am very choosy now in picking ICO and we have group chats that I followed and best of luck for me we were discussing about campaigns that we are joining... we have legendary members joined and they are bounty managers.. with that I am very sure that they will not scam us ;D. lots of ICO are scam
And I can't lie about that .. also we have tha list of those bullshit campaign manager haha..
enjoy earning :)

So, can you share with us what your methods are to pick up an upcoming ICO to get involve with? It would be helpful for those like me, a newbie to ICOs and time lacking most of the time to do the research, to know the basic steps to recognize a scam ICO.

If you can see "C" they don't have an escrow. You must need to avoid this one, and even your post is become quality you only help "C" to scam other. Stop promoting this project.

There is a 99% that Project C become a scam, i know, and i will stop promoting the ICO on Dec 20.

(...) and do you think they can give you a huge amount of bitcoin just to spread their project do you believe on that?

I have my doubts, of course

just avoid the C project it was scam you just promoting a scam project and help them to gain more profit and beware what is the consequence of it

You need to understand the consequences of what you're doing right now.

Can you or someone else comment some opinions 'bout this?





Title: Re: How to avoid SCAM ICOs?
Post by: nrm4bits on December 19, 2017, 05:33:47 PM
Please give some comments on this. Read the first post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2597552.msg26432611#msg26432611) and the last one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2597552.msg26578736#msg26578736) made by me.





Title: Re: How to avoid SCAM ICOs?
Post by: karma_project on December 19, 2017, 06:58:56 PM
This is very difficult to do. Now scammers in the crypto currency have become very numerous. They just come up with a beautiful legend and collect contributions. And then disappear.


Title: Re: How to avoid SCAM ICOs?
Post by: kakawin on December 19, 2017, 08:05:00 PM
The first thing you need to do is study the project. If this information is not available, then it is worth seriously thinking. I do not understand what the "C" project is. There is little information on this project, so I would not trust them.


Title: Re: How to avoid SCAM ICOs?
Post by: gazilla on December 19, 2017, 08:18:30 PM
Most of the ICOs are legitimate, However, there are a few out there that are scams or have proven to be scams. I personally was a victim of couple recent ones, and that is SISA (its on exchanges right now, and not that many people know, and Totum that just picked an left on the middle of campaign)


Title: Re: How to avoid SCAM ICOs?
Post by: JanEmil on December 19, 2017, 08:19:36 PM
I have only been in crypto short time.
To me it look like it is best to wait for exchange. Then most scam are dead. And the price are low because all bounty hunters sell cheap.


Title: Re: How to avoid SCAM ICOs?
Post by: asdalani on December 19, 2017, 11:31:45 PM
I have only been in crypto short time.
To me it look like it is best to wait for exchange. Then most scam are dead. And the price are low because all bounty hunters sell cheap.
If you stay in crypto for a longer period then you would see that most ICO's are not worth investing in.