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Title: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Pablo778 on December 17, 2017, 10:29:50 AM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Kryten12 on December 17, 2017, 10:33:39 AM
If you need to ask that question then investing in Bitcoin is not for you


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Captain_Planet on December 17, 2017, 10:34:18 AM
Why do you think its haram (Prohibited) in Islam? Its just like a forex business. is not it?


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: paolo099 on December 17, 2017, 10:34:42 AM
why you have to mix cryptocurrencies with religion? What's your point? Did Satoshi dediced how to kill/cut a portion of BTC with the halal method?
Really, don't mix 2 different, way different things, what if it's not? Muslim will not buy it?
Good for the others, if you consider BTC halal good for you as well.. really this kind of questions triggers me..


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Saimabutterfly on December 17, 2017, 10:37:31 AM
As far as I know its halal. because you are just trading in different coins. Whats the point then?


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: coolcountry on December 17, 2017, 10:43:22 AM
why you have to mix cryptocurrencies with religion?

It's because there is a whole finance sector which is concerned with banking and finance in accordance with Islam. Check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_banking_and_finance . I personally think there is only one type of banking and Islamic banking is just another name for the same thing, but it's not entirely surprsing that the question arises whether bitcoin is halal or not.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: hadveach on December 17, 2017, 10:51:34 AM
from some sources I read, because BTC is the currency, but the digital currency is basically the same as a transaction tool like cash currency or fiat.
perhaps more precisely your question about bitcoin trading law.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Oulay on December 17, 2017, 11:23:22 AM
Of course it is, why shouldn't it be?
Bitcoin is a currency like any other currency. What is halal or haram is what you do with your bitcoins not Bitcoin itself.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: engrawaz on December 17, 2017, 11:31:25 AM
This questions is just wrong. The people that decide wether something is halal or haram (fatwa) depends solely on their understanding. I still remember when electronic cards was haram, because they are intangible.
I think cryptocurrencies will face the same problem at some point. It is sad that banking and inflation of fiat is halal, and people have doubts about bitcoin.

I always go by the same rule, if it doesn't harm humanity and their future then it is good.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: FRJ on December 17, 2017, 11:47:36 AM
It's a very sensitive question indeed. But as far as I know, BTC is halal.Because,there is no bribe or usury mixed with bitcoin.You'll just get the profit according to the risen price of it.

I know that,bribe or usury is haram(prohibited) in Islam.But as bitcoin is just a forex business where there happens no exchanging of bribe or  usury,I think btc is halal.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: knien on December 17, 2017, 11:53:34 AM
Can we have a third option in the poll? : "Who Cares?"


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: mrayazgul on December 17, 2017, 12:00:33 PM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions

I think Muslim is clear on the issue of bitcoin is Halal or Haram.  Bitcoin is a digital currency, it is just like USD or euro and there is nothing forbidden in a Islam on not to use any currecny whether it is digital or not digital. Bitcoin is used all over the world by the muslims and we have not heard any such thing that it is forbidden in their religion.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Ayiranorea on December 17, 2017, 12:04:39 PM
That is ridiculous to talk about, whether bitcoin is halal or not. In a recent article came to know about an Islamic bank that doesn't pay users the interest on their savings which is based on the Islamic law. Same time they levy interest for the loans issued by them. This is how the halal being followed, so in my personal thinking there is nothing to think of halal about bitcoin.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: no0dlepunk on December 17, 2017, 12:09:12 PM
If it is prohibited in their belief then they are the once who should answer this, they are the ones who should raise this question too, not you Pablo... you are Jewish. Halal should be none of your business because it doesn't affect you in anyway.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Kotone on December 17, 2017, 12:10:51 PM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions

I think that this thread should be for Muslims as we who are jot don’t fully understand what is not and allowable for theim. However I don’t think that bitcoin or business should be kixed with religion especially if it is in the point of giving people theor financial needs


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: denzkilim on December 17, 2017, 12:13:01 PM
Bitcoin is halal if you use it in the right and correct manner but if you use it in illegal stuffs it will be haram. It really depends on the holder of bitcoin or other crypto currencies if he uses it in the right way or he uses it in the wrong way.  Just like flat if you use it in the wrong way it will be haram.  :)


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Lieldoryn on December 17, 2017, 12:16:51 PM
In Muslim countries a lot of living of the poor and uneducated people. Perhaps this was the reason that they have become an endless stream of terrorists. If bitcoin can make people to improve their education then they will not have to have a desire to take revenge on the world? The preachers of Islam, understand it, and so they are campaigning against bitcoin.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Jet Cash on December 17, 2017, 12:22:29 PM
Make sure that your Bitcoin is wearing a burqa. I think this reply is at about the level of the question.

Actually asking these questions is harming the reputation of Islam. Many countries are starting to discriminate against Islam because radical Muslims are trying to impose restrictions on non-muslim countries. It is a matter of conscience, if you feel that Bitcoin is the currency of pigs, then don't use it.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Menuotares on December 17, 2017, 12:32:38 PM
Bitcoin just like any other material in the world. From where you get bitcoin and where you spend bitcoin you have, that's what makes it haram or halal.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Lmaooo on December 17, 2017, 12:37:48 PM
Let use common sense here; what is the difference between USD and BTC? The only difference is USD is physical while BTC is digital. If USD is halal then BTC is halal too. therefore, i voted yes.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Eternu on December 17, 2017, 12:43:20 PM
I see no reason why religion would not permit bitcoin. Furthermore i see no connection between religion and bitcoin. Even if people find some reason to connect those two, i think it would be some pointless reason... didn't want to use other word. People should learn to separate things, and not try to put everything in same basket or view something from same perspective. Also I am not saying anything bad about Muslims, this things apply to other religions too.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: jvdp on December 17, 2017, 01:07:31 PM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions
I think Bitcoin is not haram in Muslim. Because Arabic countries are tax free countries in our world. But know all the Arabic countries are recently discussing the tax proposel. So don't confuse this halal or haram. This is only currency it will rule the world. Because we should earn money in our day to day life.  This is not a illegal currency we spend our time and knowledge. Some of the peoples are only thinking religious views.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Al Amin on December 17, 2017, 01:16:42 PM
I think that bitcoin is halal, because here we transact buying and selling. Haram if you get bitcoin by stealing eg hack someone account. Or it could be called haram if usury.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Cammo01 on December 17, 2017, 01:28:11 PM
This is a silly question if you ask me.

Islamists have no restriction at all when it comes to owning a currency.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: khaldrogon on December 17, 2017, 01:43:46 PM
bitcoin is a tools, no reason for haram just like knife or the other thing and it depends who and how to use it. so Halal everywhere


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: h0lybyte on December 17, 2017, 02:01:46 PM
According to my point of view, trading bitcoin is just like you buy a land for $100k today and after 5 days you want to sell it and somebody pays you $150k, so this methodology of profiting is not prohibited in islam because this is called trade and profits gained in trade isn't prohibited even in islam.
However, islamic scholars have still not found any prohibiting  aspect in bitcoin, so you can continue buying, trading, spending it


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: zolfa on December 17, 2017, 02:09:45 PM
I think halal, and no problem. because bitcoin is like a cash currency, which is used as a transaction tool. the difference is bitcoin is virtual money and fiat the real money.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: mehedi24 on December 17, 2017, 02:11:35 PM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions
same i always think about it.but i don,t know about it.please same one clear me .


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: datodota002 on December 17, 2017, 02:13:35 PM
many people think that trading is forbidden because it is gambling. but if we look carefully trading especially bitcoin is a form of business that is followed by a detailed and clear analysis. trading as well as opening a business. people open a business without knowing the business will run smoothly or not even bitcoin trading


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: maman09 on December 17, 2017, 02:16:41 PM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions

I think you're misplaced dude, I think you should ask the teachers who are experts in religion. but in the digital world all has nothing to do with beliefs, what else a religion.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Ourat on December 17, 2017, 02:20:54 PM
I do not know kosher bitcoin or not, which has not been discussed about halal bitcoin, that is my knowledge. :)


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: olushakes on December 17, 2017, 02:24:27 PM
why you have to mix cryptocurrencies with religion? What's your point? Did Satoshi dediced how to kill/cut a portion of BTC with the halal method?
Really, don't mix 2 different, way different things, what if it's not? Muslim will not buy it?
Good for the others, if you consider BTC halal good for you as well.. really this kind of questions triggers me..

This is exactly my thought. The moment people start singing religious songs into something so liberal, its a way to ensure some people are kept in the dark for ever. Anybody who is into bitcoin that does not scam, steal or even engage in robbing someone else resources but can still not make peace with himself as to whether its halal or not, is probably not free minded as for those bitcoin is originally meant for. Whether Muslim or any other religion, there are some basic moral rules and the moment that has been violated you are not in consonance with any religious teachings.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: antagonist on December 17, 2017, 02:25:42 PM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions

very interesting question im sure one or two imam can create reason why bitcoin is not halal
but as things are today i think yes bitcoin is maybe MOST halal currency in world  :D
USD is least halal currency , USD is complete and tottally haram


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Pantoflascrypt017 on December 17, 2017, 02:28:50 PM
No BTC is a pig?! What kind of question  is this, how do you even eat a bitcoin?!


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: toElefante on December 17, 2017, 02:30:47 PM
why you have to mix cryptocurrencies with religion?

Just from a financial standpoint, the halal question is a hugely important question, because that's another 20% of the population of the planet that may or may not participate in Bitcoin.  It will affect the price and speed of bitcoin's adoption.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: iqlimasyadiqa on December 17, 2017, 02:34:57 PM
We all know that Halal is a thing to be cared about for a Muslim, I think when we can get money / bitcoin in a good way then I would say that it is HALAL and when we get Bitcoin in a bad way then I would call that a HARAM thing. That is the perception that is mentioned by many experts of Islamic religion, Halal is a process that we do so the way we get something / goods in accordance with Islamic religious teachings.

As the teachings we received earlier that everything that is prohibited by God and this will continue to be preserved and will determine how a Muslim can maintain his Islam. I strongly support a HALAL thing because I am also a Muslim and I want to obey the worship and run it all according to what is ordered by Allah SWT.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: oppasong on December 17, 2017, 02:35:12 PM
as long as we get bitcoin with the result of hard work then I think bitcoin is not kosher.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: ubay on December 17, 2017, 02:37:26 PM
BTC is halal, because in the law of buying and selling in Islam there must be sellers and buyers. And when they agree to buy and sell the goods, it means that there is agreement and causes something to be halal.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Harlot on December 17, 2017, 02:41:59 PM
We all know that Halal is a thing to be cared about for a Muslim, I think when we can get money / bitcoin in a good way then I would say that it is HALAL and when we get Bitcoin in a bad way then I would call that a HARAM thing. That is the perception that is mentioned by many experts of Islamic religion, Halal is a process that we do so the way we get something / goods in accordance with Islamic religious teachings.

As the teachings we received earlier that everything that is prohibited by God and this will continue to be preserved and will determine how a Muslim can maintain his Islam. I strongly support a HALAL thing because I am also a Muslim and I want to obey the worship and run it all according to what is ordered by Allah SWT.
When you think of it Bitcoin is just a currency and aside from the common misconception in which it is tied as a dark web money that is use for buying drugs and other criminal services in its original function it is just money just like other Fiat currency where it is being used for those bad things way back before Bitcoin was created. For the Muslims I have little knowledge about their beliefs but the way I see how they can build a billion dollar business and adapt through change I think Bitcoin is permissible.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Swopon on December 17, 2017, 02:53:15 PM
you shouldn't mix cryptocurrency with religion.And i think bitcoin is halal because we have to do hard work to earn btc and in Islam we can see that buy or sell is halal so bitcoin is halal


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: digaran on December 17, 2017, 02:55:22 PM
In Muslim countries a lot of living of the poor and uneducated people. Perhaps this was the reason that they have become an endless stream of terrorists. If bitcoin can make people to improve their education then they will not have to have a desire to take revenge on the world? The preachers of Islam, understand it, and so they are campaigning against bitcoin.
So many beggars have turned into religion experts, did you know that Israel is paying uneducated and hungry people to jump virgins in this world and with the promise of jumping multiple virgins in the next world?
No body is campaigning against Bitcoin, *we are literally begging for more Bitcoin, (note, *we means me and my organization).


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Prabusiliwangi on December 17, 2017, 02:58:36 PM
I personally think bitcoin halal, but there are some things that make can not halah. Like in terms of getting it, like from gambling. Because Muslims are forbidden to gamble, so if using bitcoin to gamble then bitcoin will be not halal. Thank ypu


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: levvv on December 17, 2017, 03:02:04 PM
Yes it is, now let we think,
if you want to buy other currency, hold it, and the price is increase, and you sell it and make profit,
what is different with bitcoin ?


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: mostkey on December 17, 2017, 03:02:55 PM
what is said to be haram is when something we gain can harm others. but i think the income from btc does not harm anyone so i think more that this is not haram


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Amelial on December 17, 2017, 03:07:48 PM
I thinks bitcoint is not haram bcos the business is same. As we do valas business


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: St4yInTh3D4rk on December 17, 2017, 03:12:11 PM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions

Good question,the same question was asked to me by a friend of mine.

Bitcoin is just a currency and it is made of technology to prevent hackers from hacking in online transaction.But people use its demand to make profits it is just due to skill nothing to worry.If you are buying bitcoin with money which was earned by halal way then your bitcoin also halal.
Don't mix technology with the religion,I hope you understand now.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: NetAlp on December 17, 2017, 03:13:29 PM
BTC is halal, because in the law of buying and selling in Islam there must be sellers and buyers. And when they agree to buy and sell the goods, it means that there is agreement and causes something to be halal.
If both parties have agreed to the transaction between the buyer and the seller, it is sufficient to fulfill something to be halal
But only a religious figure more appropriate to give the correct answer to the question of bitcoin halal


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: ballerin and giroud on December 17, 2017, 03:37:48 PM
Bitcoin will be halal when you get it by using halal way and will be haram if you get it with haram way. If our answer is not enough for you please ask to your religious teacher, he knows more about your religious law. Because if you ask us about bitcoin haram or not, with not much consideration for answer HALAL.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: rangga28 on December 17, 2017, 07:53:09 PM
in my opinion btc is halal because there are goods sold. btc looks like gold. If gambling using btc is haram


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: syberwolfen on December 17, 2017, 08:13:35 PM
Of course it is, why shouldn't it be?
Bitcoin is a currency like any other currency. What is halal or haram is what you do with your bitcoins not Bitcoin itself.

Bitcoin is just like any other currency which can be used as an exchange for goods or product and I really don't understand what makes people think if its halal or haram as far as my knowledge if you are gambling with bitcoin it's haram but if you are earning it by signature campaign or investing and withdrawing it when the value shoots it's indeed halal.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: LTU_btc on December 17, 2017, 11:17:06 PM
I'm not expert in Islam, but I will try to say what I think. Bitcoin by itself isn't Haram. If you are buying BTC, trading it, buying stuff with BTC, there is nothing wrong in my view. But if you aquire BTC by scamming someone, you hiding taxes, buying stuff from black market with BTC, or just gambling with Bitcoins, then, obviously it's strictly Haram. But anyway, Bitcoin is only tool like fiat cash, and most important thing in your question is actions - what do you do with your money.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Wijaya777 on December 17, 2017, 11:18:47 PM
maybe if you using bitcoin for illegal purpose it's will be haram. but i don't know if bitcoin for tradiing it halal or not?


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: elie_s on December 17, 2017, 11:28:30 PM
Stocks are like gambling no1 can predict what can happen  to them then can go high one day and low the other same as bitcoin so if gambling is haram then maybe bitcoin  is


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Rupok on December 20, 2017, 06:13:22 AM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions
same i always think about it.but i don,t know about it.please same one clear me .


I have a lot of hesitation in this matter.But in my little knowledge how Bitcoin is forbidden.Bitcoin is not bringing any harm to the country,If people spend it on the forbid way,then why would it be forbidden here?


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Mr.grin on December 20, 2017, 06:16:15 AM
well, it should be lawful if you look for it in a good way. all that is in search in a good way it is lawful. even I believe that many Muslims are investing in bitcoin. it's just like investing in gold.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: RamBahadur.Gurung on December 20, 2017, 06:17:50 AM
No. It is not. You can't use Bitcoin to wage financial Jihad against the infidels. So I think that Bitcoin is haram, rather than halal. So I would urge all the religious folks to please refrain from using Bitcoin.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on December 20, 2017, 06:20:45 AM
BTC is above all religions! It is so high that it is a religion in itself! This religion does not discriminate on the basis of halal or color! BTC is pure! In fact it is so pure that only pure H20 can match its aura! Everything else just seems obfuscate in front of the great Lord! I hope the aura remains forever as we the omniscient pests of this darthly world can survive the apocalypse under one true leadership of the mighty Bitcoin! :P :P :P


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: fipper on December 20, 2017, 06:24:19 AM
btc halal or not it depends on the perception of each. because it becomes the pros and cons many parties you can judge from your own beliefs. because if my own opinion bitcoin is halal and not detrimental


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: shacc on December 20, 2017, 06:33:00 AM
Bitcoin Halal? you can start asking yourself: how you gain Bitcoin, from where you collect it and what you do with it?
the answer is simple.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: nidacoinlove on December 20, 2017, 06:37:26 AM
well, it should be lawful if you look for it in a good way. all that is in search in a good way it is lawful. even I believe that many Muslims are investing in bitcoin. it's just like investing in gold.
Yeah I being a Muslim am a fan of bitcoin, I am not an Islamic scholar but according to my understanding it is a currency like the other currencies that we have in fiat. It's mechanism is different from the traditional fiat but at the end we use it to buy goods & services.
I guess it depends on the user of this currency if someone is using it for unrestricted activities but if it is used for restricted even though the user is to be blamed not the bitcoin.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: hansbans on December 20, 2017, 06:39:43 AM
There is no reason not to be halal. you spend your time, give your time, do your research and you are investing.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Rickirs on December 20, 2017, 06:41:09 AM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions

By the law of Islam, the way it makes profit and % of profit it can make, its not Halal ;D


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Afnan_faizah on December 20, 2017, 06:42:16 AM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions
It is just like the  real money. Halal or not it is only depend on how do you earn bitcoin. If you earned it by mining its mean that bitcoin that you earned is HALAL. usually I avoid any project that related with gambling or other bad thing.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Nerman on December 20, 2017, 06:48:54 AM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions

Bitcoin is a currency and i do not think owning a currency will be against any  religion.
If you think fiat money is moral then for sure owning a bitcoin or altcoin will ne moral as well.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: marcuslong on December 20, 2017, 06:53:02 AM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions
Lol this question is nuts of course muslims can use bitcoin too my friend from other country which his job is to hack websites and report the vulnerables and then after he report that he gets bounty which they pay him bitcoin and he sells that to me and i will pay him dollar afterwards theres no wrong using bitcoin , bitcoin is not a religion bitcoin can use everyone who wants to use it why they need to dis allowed that when they knew that bitcoin can helps to less hassle to settle those payments quickly.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Rossy Akbar on December 20, 2017, 06:59:02 AM
I think depends the way how would you collecting bitcoin bruv, I am muslim and Im pretty sure these thing are halal. Well,  if you collecting btc from gambling or join the project like prostitute thing which is prohibited in islam,  it could be haram for the reward.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: doomloop on December 22, 2017, 12:35:29 PM
Bitcoin Halal? you can start asking yourself: how you gain Bitcoin, from where you collect it and what you do with it?
the answer is simple.
yes if you are earning bitcoin and everything for your daily need with halal source of earning then it is halal but if you are not using right and appropriate way of earning for it then you are doing very bad. It is not good to use negative and wrong way to earn bitcoin. It is good to pay sachet and doing all good things for poor and needy with bitcoin then it is not bad just try to be honest with your way of earning then nothing is haram.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Bitcotalk on December 23, 2017, 05:39:10 AM
why you have to mix cryptocurrencies with religion? What's your point? Did Satoshi dediced how to kill/cut a portion of BTC with the halal method?
Really, don't mix 2 different, way different things, what if it's not? Muslim will not buy it?
Good for the others, if you consider BTC halal good for you as well.. really this kind of questions triggers me..
For a Muslim community bitcoin is halal. By halal i means in Islam any trade which have profit and losses are halal. Yes bitcoin are more profitable but it also have a certain kind of losses. It is halal a lot Muslims investing in bitcoin. They know it is halal that’s why they are investing in bitcoin.

Bitcoin is a currency without religion. We should not mix religion with bitcoin. But still religion exist God exists we should follow the rules.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: QuestionAuthority on December 23, 2017, 05:49:55 AM
Yes, BTC is Halal. It complies fully with Islamic dietary laws. The BTC is slaughtered by the finest trolls boring it to death on this forum while reciting the Bismillah and it is processed in a plant where pork is never processed.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: melonbtchunter on April 04, 2018, 08:11:13 AM
According to me, Bitcoin is Halal. Because BTC is a digital currency used in transactions. It is not lawful or harmful, it depends entirely on you. You use it as a good thing or use bad things. If you use good things, it is forbidden to use halal and bad things. Because Bitcoin is a business and people use it for their well-being, it is lawful.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: mc.craigsvictor on April 04, 2018, 08:17:12 AM
Bitcoin is a digital currency its just like a cash usd euro i dont know why people think about that. if btc is illegal i mean haram then what about cash ?
so before any question arising u should learn all the details .


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: 1C6fV5DtakfKANLJ8GUV7hCaA on April 05, 2018, 01:22:37 PM
Bitcoin is definitely halal. Bitcoin itself is. Bitcoin is used as a currency around the world but the way it is used will determine whether or not it is halal or haram.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: ntodntodan69 on April 05, 2018, 01:35:37 PM
I have consulted many people who have a high knowledge of the law, they argue if bounty hunter get a kosher coin but if the results of trading it is doubtful


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: dimiinx on April 05, 2018, 01:42:37 PM
Bitcoin is definitely halal. Bitcoin itself is. Bitcoin is used as a currency around the world but the way it is used will determine whether or not it is halal or haram.
halal and forbidden bitcoin depends on how we get it and spend it,if we get it by not trying then bitcoin could be said to be haram.Not the whole world uses bitcoin currencies,only certain countries use bitcoin currencies.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: invincible49 on April 05, 2018, 01:45:54 PM

Yeah I being a Muslim am a fan of bitcoin, I am not an Islamic scholar but according to my understanding it is a currency like the other currencies that we have in fiat. It's mechanism is different from the traditional fiat but at the end we use it to buy goods & services.
I guess it depends on the user of this currency if someone is using it for unrestricted activities but if it is used for restricted even though the user is to be blamed not the bitcoin.
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That's related to moral issue. But did you know that commodities are the only permissible currencies in Islam according to the hadiths. It is almost prohibited to use fiat/paper currency in Islam but don't we do it around the Muslim world nowadays? Bitcoin is considered as a digital commodity which is not dictated by any government, bank. Unlike fiat currency and just like gold, silver Bitcoin is also finite. The value of it is only related to the people who mine it and users who use it. Being it free from all the negative aspects that Islam says about haram economic system, I guess I can say it is halal.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Xester on April 05, 2018, 01:46:59 PM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions

This is a very funny question. Bitcoin cannot be a HALAL because this word can only be applied to muslim cuisine. When we say HALAL it refers to a special way of preparing meat as prescribed by Muslim law. If bitcoin is a kind of meat then it could be prepared in a way so it can be called HALAL but this is cryptocurrency that we are talking thus bitcoin cannot be HALAL but muslims can use bitcoin without worries and without violating any Islamic Laws.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: bolbau on April 05, 2018, 02:25:53 PM
I think this is an important thing to discuss for some people. because halal is the main parameter for a Muslim to use bitcoin. I am a Muslim living in a country with the largest Muslim community in the world (indonesia with 225 million muslim), seeing that the clarity of bitcoin halal or not, is an obstacle to the development of cryptocurrency in my country. one of the main issue is some of fundamental Islamic group keep said that bitcoin is haram (not halal) because theres no direct contract/agreement (like shake hands and face to face), but some moderate Islamic groups said that Islamic understanding can be adapted to the conditions and progress of a civilization, not necessarily follow the concepts of the past. and the fact that MUI islamic organization which has the authority of halal or haram legislation didn't said that trading in general (foreign exchange, stocks) is a haram for muslim, so that was same thing for bitcoin.



Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: ashrafway on April 05, 2018, 02:46:37 PM
Yes, i think As a payment network, Bitcoin is halal. In fact, Bitcoin goes beyond what more conventional closed banking networks offer. Bitcoin is a currency like any other currency. so i think bitcoin is halal.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: RawDog on April 05, 2018, 03:24:18 PM
Yes, i think As a payment network, Bitcoin is halal. In fact, Bitcoin goes beyond what more conventional closed banking networks offer. Bitcoin is a currency like any other currency. so i think bitcoin is halal.
Haram my friend.  Definately Haram.  Stay away.  It might as well be 666.  Major muslim clerics have all agreed: haram.  If you are muslim, you must not touch this.  Allah won't listen to your stupid explanation why you think it is OK.  It isn't.

Haram (http://www.newsweek.com/bitcoin-top-imam-declares-cryptocurrency-forbidden-islam-and-calls-ban-768075)


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: defriadi on April 05, 2018, 03:43:51 PM
in my opinion can be seen from how to get bitcoin, whether you invest or find bitcoin by following bounty, I think it's halal for Muslims, because here we can be said to work by giving time energy and internet capital to do it. everything that is done seriously without any cheating, it can all be said halal.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: thevlox on April 05, 2018, 03:46:06 PM
It depends on how you are using. Why is it forbidden? Many people use it badly. There is no reason to think this because people work here and take money. There is nothing to say that bitcoin is unlawful.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: melonbtchunter on April 13, 2018, 03:04:43 PM
never. How do you say that Bitcoin is over? Calm down and patience. All of this could be just for beggining. Do not worry, it is growing steadily growing. As it continues to rise, it can not be said yet.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: butt786 on April 30, 2018, 02:49:07 AM
 I Voted Yes btc Is Halal Because BTC is a Digital Currency Used In Transactions.

 ;D


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Rossy Akbar on April 30, 2018, 02:53:39 AM
Well,  in my country is halal already,  you can check it in here https://www.techradar.com/news/bitcoin-declared-halal-by-islamic-scholar . It has been so many different argument befor the sharia law has made, but I think it's all back to what do you with bitcoin,  if you do it in bad way which is prohibited(haram) well it's haram, but you can see we can earn some money with a lot of good things in bitcoin.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: vermigerous on April 30, 2018, 02:57:38 AM
BTC itself is halaal, but when you used it in a forbidden thing like gambling and lending and it will become haraam. by the way it has clarified already you can search the google for the answer.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Goodday on April 30, 2018, 03:26:11 AM
I think the position of Bitcoin has been recognized as the currency in Germany so it qualifies halal in this country
Bitcoin is allowed because it is valued at the global trading center and accepted as payment in many traders. so I think kosher


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: sakokinak on May 03, 2018, 05:59:00 PM
Yes, i think As a payment network, Bitcoin is halal. In fact, Bitcoin goes beyond what more conventional closed banking networks offer. Bitcoin is a currency like any other currency. so i think bitcoin is halal.

As soon as Bitcoin is widely and legally used in the United Arab Emirates, it is halal. The richest people in the country promote the cryptocurrency and invite people to buy it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZsvg7R3CXM


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: OrangeII on May 03, 2018, 06:04:40 PM
bitcoin is money. even when we use it in the real world, bitcoin must be in exchange with fiat. well, I think bitcoin is something obvious. I have learned a few things in this regard. bitcoin is money, when the money is obtained in a good way, I think it is Halal, vice versa. well, only god knows about this.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Kisahazumaki87 on May 05, 2018, 03:32:41 AM
I think Bitcoin is halal. Because only for sale and purchase transactions


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: barlo_blake on May 05, 2018, 03:47:33 AM
Yes its confirmed (Halal) mostly of Arab country allowed it that's why the value of btc now are increasing and hopefully it will continue.God willing and God is great.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Amevalentine on May 05, 2018, 03:59:32 AM
depending on the use. if people use for gambling and drugs it is clear that this is an offense. and for Muslims are forbidden. but for trading or this transaction in my opinion is not a problem. because no party is harmed


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: RawDog on May 05, 2018, 07:02:27 AM
depending on the use. if people use for gambling and drugs it is clear that this is an offense.

Not true.  Bitcoin is Haram.  You are not a cleric who decides which uses are OK.  

Here is the final word: HARAM...
https://qz.com/1171431/egypts-bitcoin-fatwa-cleric-bans-bitcoin-trading/ (https://qz.com/1171431/egypts-bitcoin-fatwa-cleric-bans-bitcoin-trading/)

Your word (are you a Grand Mufti?  Didn't think so) is a small opinion and your 'followers' are not going with the top clerics.

https://egyptianstreets.com/2017/12/31/dealing-with-bitcoin-digital-currency-is-haram-advisor-to-the-mufti/ (https://egyptianstreets.com/2017/12/31/dealing-with-bitcoin-digital-currency-is-haram-advisor-to-the-mufti/)

Trading ban for Muslims...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42541270 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42541270)


As soon as Amevalentine becomes a Mufti, we'll start following your ideas of when Bitcoin is Halal.  Today, your word is invalid. 


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: hrz on May 05, 2018, 07:08:14 AM
bitcoin is not haram if not join with gambling project or gambling place like casino project, if we join with bounty which there is no gambling element then legitimate just is not haram.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Tyrantt on May 05, 2018, 07:17:03 AM
Why does it even matter? lol  getting up from bed is a gamble itself, you can never know if some drunk driver is going to run you over that day or probably going to die in some other way, you're going on with your life hoping that it won't. Is life haram since it's, practically, a gamble by itself? You can't be cotton picking bitcoin uses like that, if it's haram, then it's haram.



Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: crypto.kaka on May 05, 2018, 07:19:52 AM
yes it,s halal for muslim,s friends


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Hec2005 on May 05, 2018, 07:34:12 AM
It is and i think this is not for you.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: ologoff on May 05, 2018, 07:37:18 AM
Instead of thinking about what is halal and what is haram, isn’t better try to live your life in respect with others and in harmony with the nature?
Decentralize your mind, not only the currencies ;)


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: psycox on May 05, 2018, 07:43:02 AM
Too much debate about this. indeed according to my own halal or haram it depends on the principle of each and also users. if indeed its use is wrong then it is included in the haram. but vice versa. what if the bitcoin case is used for charity movements?


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: cryptoalfs76 on May 05, 2018, 07:52:08 AM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions

Will due to respect i,thinks there's no relation  bitcoin and the tradition of islam into cryptocurrency  to become  halal or forbidden  into there religion,because bitcoin is different  in religion otherwise it is for the economy growth and  religion is set aside from this  situation,so due to respect  its much better that we focus only in cryptocurrency investment and we shall get out  to forbidden sharia law of islam.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Mazda17 on May 05, 2018, 07:56:22 AM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: njnvvmjp on May 05, 2018, 08:02:27 AM
I am very curious about this question. Bitcoin and Muslims are two concepts. I think we should not confuse encryption with religion. Bitcoin is all the world can have.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: yummydex on May 05, 2018, 08:58:45 AM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions
Bitcoin is just like a sort of business. In my opinion this is not haram in fact in uae they advertise the bitcoin in social media if its haram they will block this kind of advertisement for sure because uae is a muslim country.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Tusher1234 on May 05, 2018, 09:14:03 AM
Yes,I think.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: hurriebra49 on May 05, 2018, 09:56:45 AM
Yes it is good because from last couple of days the news was effected the market when Muslim community announce bitcoin as halal by sharia law and after that the price of bitcoin will increased and giving the positive sign to the bitcoin price,


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: RawDog on May 05, 2018, 10:04:18 AM
Instead of thinking about what is halal and what is haram, isn’t better try to live your life in respect with others and in harmony with the nature?
Decentralize your mind, not only the currencies ;)
Oh sure, that is a great idea.  Then what is going to happen when God Allah finds out you are doing that?  You are fucked then.  


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Mekmbem on May 05, 2018, 10:04:40 AM
halal or not bitcoin depending on the person who uses it, if used for trade or investment is lawful but if used for gambling or buying drugs it would be not kosher, because I am also a muslim :)


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Welhell on May 05, 2018, 10:29:47 AM
I research about ''halal'' and thats mean is ''something that is not sinful''. And it is cryptocurrency, i think it can be halal. The religion is your own justice, and you should not calculate it with your religion.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: youdacapt on May 05, 2018, 11:01:56 AM
there has been no official statement from any government, but there have been many studies from various scholars around the world who think it is positive, All things that apply in Islam are transactions and possessions must be real but they must also open themselves to changes in technological, there must be a synchronization not to return to a specific mashab which refers to any prohibition against any positive technology.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: bitfocus on May 05, 2018, 11:07:54 AM
you can easily read that Muslim holy book online and get your answer.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: rizkypurwati on May 05, 2018, 11:21:29 AM
a matter of halal or not is a matter of how an individual's point of view or a group that I feel does not need to be answered and questioned. Bitcoin is not a religious commodity,


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Labajah on May 05, 2018, 11:27:08 AM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions


the term halal is particularly associated with Islamic dietary laws. refers to what is permissible or lawful in traditional Islamic law. It is frequently applied to permissible food and drinks. bitcoin is not of any kind of foods or drinks.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Ejanend on May 05, 2018, 11:46:06 AM
yes BTC is Halal.  as we know in Islam earning of  profit is Halal and INTEREST on loan/money is Haram (prohibited). peoples are invested  money in bitcoin for profit they buy and sell bitcoin as a product when price of bitcoin low they buy and when the price go increase then they sell it on those people who want to buy bitcoin then they earn profit. just like USD, Euro, Durham and Riyal which is physical money but bitcoin is Digital Money.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: RawDog on May 05, 2018, 11:55:49 AM
the term halal is particularly associated with Islamic dietary laws. refers to what is permissible or lawful in traditional Islamic law. It is frequently applied to permissible food and drinks. bitcoin is not of any kind of foods or drinks.
Allah won't fall for these kinds of very thin trick arguments.  


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: nyerok on May 05, 2018, 03:55:12 PM
of course I think bitcoin is very "kosher" bitcoin is digital currency and bitcoin is money in its own movement of demand and the total supply is very limited the more rare and the harder it is to get the more expensive bitcoin the price and the more expensive the sale value.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: nara1892 on May 05, 2018, 04:05:33 PM
"As a payment network, Bitcoin is halal. In fact, Bitcoin goes beyond what more conventional closed banking networks offer. Unlike conventional bank networks which use private ledgers where there's no guarantee that the originator actually owns the underlying assets, Bitcoin guarantees with mathematical certainty that the originator of the transfer owns the underlying assets. Conventional banks operate using the principle of fractional reserve, which is prohibited in Islam."
-Matthew J. Martin


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Free1bitco.in on May 05, 2018, 04:07:37 PM
bitcoin 100% halal. bitcoin is not a stolen currency, not a robbery and not a gambling result. if bitcoin from work, result of gift etc. it is a good result, and halal, and that's why bitcoin is halal


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: TTITA on May 05, 2018, 04:10:02 PM
depending on the use. if people use for gambling and drugs it is clear that this is an offense. and for Muslims are forbidden. but for trading or this transaction in my opinion is not a problem. because no party is harmed
i agree with you, but i think trading is including on gambling still. So my opinion if you just buying Btc and use it for as payment / send money to friend worldwide with its low cost and fast moving rather than bank transfer or use Btc for paying bill/such kind of services, i think this is doesn't matter.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: payjoe93 on May 05, 2018, 04:14:36 PM
For me, Crypto is like a Stock. If investor sign a Stock what they got? Just a piece of paper. Pay expensif just for a piece of paper.. Is that Halal? If Stock operation in Gambling certainly Haram.

Almost like a crypto. If you invest Bitcoin to Dev, you just got a value of coin. If that Dev engaged in Gambling or Bad Acticity,  certainly Haram.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Lakshitha1977 on May 05, 2018, 04:17:55 PM
Can we have a third option in the poll? : "Who Cares?"
I'm looking for that option too, seriously why does it matter...

you seriously shouldn't mix finances with religion, it only brings  bad reputation to religion, Just use it for good purposes and you are totally fine, if you use it for bad purposes then that will be bad, no matter the religion or belief , Karma will answer.


many people think that trading is forbidden because it is gambling. but if we look carefully trading especially bitcoin is a form of business that is followed by a detailed and clear analysis. trading as well as opening a business. people open a business without knowing the business will run smoothly or not even bitcoin trading

This is how you should actually think of this, if you even consider bitcoin is against the religion , then That religion believers will no longer able to use MONEY, so It's not really a question about religion, it's about how you use it.


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: ekowkow on May 05, 2018, 04:33:47 PM
YES, I think the bitcoin is halal.
just as does the question of whether real money is halal? certainly the answer is yes halal, but it can all be haram when the way to get it by cheating or gambling and so forth.
so, bitcoin is the same, basically bitocin is kosher, but if the way get it through cheating, then it will be harm


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: nieninja53 on May 06, 2018, 05:53:29 PM
It is good thing for bitcoin and all over the world if Dubai is very on cryptocurrency then it will effect very positively on the price of the bitcoin and all other coins also,


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: Enijesiku Sulaimom on May 06, 2018, 06:06:20 PM
To my own view bitcoin is never haram, the fact that u invest ur hard earn money rathan than keeping it in bank in which someone will be using it to transact and in return giving you 0.01% out it, you can easily put it on something that you will be able to control by ursef in your own wallet. The only thing that is not halal in it is using it as a medium to defraud people


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: qwerty12 on May 06, 2018, 06:08:18 PM
Many Muslim will come of the view and worried about this question . please give suggestions

I think to determine whether "halal" or "haram" bitcoin according to Islam can not be arbitrary.

However, if in my view, I think, Bitcoin is the same as money in general. because it becomes a medium of exchange accepted by the general public and as a means of saving.

From what I have learned about the definition of money, according to Islamic law money is "everything that is the medium of exchange and is generally accepted, whatever the form and under any circumstances."


Title: Re: IS BTC Halal ?
Post by: mahibul49 on May 06, 2018, 07:10:20 PM
i think holding and buying bitcoin is halal.
see the other currebcy in forex trade usd or eur below rise and come below too
so my opinion btc is an asset so its halal.