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Title: Bitcoin / Blockchain network traffic blocking / ban / manipulation by ISP's
Post by: HEATEDMR on December 17, 2017, 09:50:31 PM
I had my own internet service company, like 17-een years ago (~2000), the internet speed was awfull, i paid something like 100 usd/month for "32kbps", which was very unstable and had more than 50 users hooked up. It was normal for a page to load in 3-5minutes, but if longer - people were getting angry :) What i had to do is set up traffiic speed limits for ftp. It all worked pretty good for some time, the DSL technology came, which was great, but then the fucking Torrent tech showed up. Damn it was a problem! So we resolved that too under linux servers (i am no admin, but i explain the problem and my admin solved it).

Sooooooooo.... to get to the point. I think Bitcoin and blockchain traffic is exposed to manipulations and blocking. The solutions are there already. I don't see enough discussions on this topic. I hope people realise how serious threat that is!

Some things to look up:

1) Ze Germans Detection of Bitcoin Transactions in Network Traffic: https://cybersecurity.rohde-schwarz.com/en/detection-bitcoin-transactions-network-traffic
2) Some concerned guy: https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/895917/Bitcoin-Traffic-Sniffer-and-Analyzer
3) Nice guy Ivan - he is saying it's almost impossible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6wwdVHUFn4


Any pro's here to comment on this? much appreciated!


Title: Re: Bitcoin / Blockchain network traffic blocking / ban / manipulation by ISP's
Post by: jseverson on December 17, 2017, 09:54:37 PM
I had my own internet service company, like 17-een years ago (~2000), the internet speed was awfull, i paid something like 100 usd/month for "32kbps", which was very unstable and had more than 50 users hooked up. It was normal for a page to load in 3-5minutes, but if longer - people were getting angry :) What i had to do is set up traffiic speed limits for ftp. It all worked pretty good for some time, the DSL technology came, which was great, but then the fucking Torrent tech showed up. Damn it was a problem! So we resolved that too under linux servers (i am no admin, but i explain the problem and my admin solved it).

Sooooooooo.... to get to the point. I think Bitcoin and blockchain traffic is exposed to manipulations and blocking. The solutions are there already. I don't see enough discussions on this topic. I hope people realise how serious threat that is!

Some things to look up:

1) Ze Germans Detection of Bitcoin Transactions in Network Traffic: https://cybersecurity.rohde-schwarz.com/en/detection-bitcoin-transactions-network-traffic
2) Some concerned guy: https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/895917/Bitcoin-Traffic-Sniffer-and-Analyzer
3) Nice guy Ivan - he is saying it's almost impossible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6wwdVHUFn4


Any pro's here to comment on this? much appreciated!

Not a pro, but shouldn't VPNs be capable of completely removing ISPs from the equation? They can't read the data you send so they can't pinpoint the Bitcoin traffic. Tor should work the same way. It's one of the reasons I'm not too concerned about net neutrality, but I do want to keep it. I could be completely wrong though. I would appreciate it if someone can shed some light on this.


Title: Re: Bitcoin / Blockchain network traffic blocking / ban / manipulation by ISP's
Post by: HEATEDMR on December 17, 2017, 10:55:15 PM
That's the thing - german solution can classify bitcoin-related traffic. Classify = you can do what ever you want. Reduce speed, block, divert, etc. I don't understand how this is still not under concern of majority. People are investing a lot of money in to blockchain technology a lot for it's security, but if you can manipulate it by the click of the mouse, then blockchain tech is useless.