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Title: [XPM] Primecoin network stuck on block 78414
Post by: Tamis on July 22, 2013, 08:23:09 PM
For about 45 minutes !

Anyone knows what is happening ?


Title: Re: [XPM] Network stuck on block 78414
Post by: FiiNALiZE on July 22, 2013, 08:24:11 PM
Nvm, probably just because the block size is so big.



Title: Re: [XPM] Primecoin network stuck on block 78414
Post by: Tamis on July 22, 2013, 08:25:18 PM
Seems problem is solved block 78415 just passed at Mon Jul 22 22:25:42 2013 (GMT+1).

Seems to be fixed


Title: Re: [XPM] Primecoin network stuck on block 78414
Post by: Charles999 on July 22, 2013, 08:59:25 PM
Still stuck on my client.  hmm.. anyone else??

Seems problem is solved block 78415 just passed at Mon Jul 22 22:25:42 2013 (GMT+1).

Seems to be fixed



Title: Re: [XPM] Primecoin network stuck on block 78414
Post by: CoinBuzz on July 22, 2013, 09:21:38 PM
my client threw an error and exited


Title: Re: [XPM] Primecoin network stuck on block 78414
Post by: markm on July 22, 2013, 09:23:21 PM
Mine claims block number is 78429 now.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: [XPM] Primecoin network stuck on block 78414
Post by: 96redformula on July 22, 2013, 09:24:53 PM
Mine claims block number is 78429 now.

-MarkM-


Yeah, it is definitely having some issues whether it is getting stuck or just slowing down.


Title: Re: [XPM] Primecoin network stuck on block 78414
Post by: AgentME on July 22, 2013, 09:25:31 PM
It looks like primecoin is having performance issues with really large transactions happening. The devs seem to be looking into it at the main thread.


Title: Re: [XPM] Primecoin network stuck on block 78414
Post by: markm on July 22, 2013, 09:26:19 PM
Mine claims block number is 78429 now.

-MarkM-


Yeah, it is definitely having some issues whether it is getting stuck or just slowing down.

I don't see it, i am at 78430 now.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: [XPM] Primecoin network stuck on block 78414
Post by: FiiNALiZE on July 22, 2013, 09:26:38 PM
It looks like primecoin is having performance issues with really large transactions happening. The devs seem to be looking into it at the main thread.

It's more of a combination of large transactions & people switching off their miners.



Title: Re: [XPM] Primecoin network stuck on block 78414
Post by: 96redformula on July 22, 2013, 09:28:22 PM
It looks like primecoin is having performance issues with really large transactions happening. The devs seem to be looking into it at the main thread.

It's more of a combination of large transactions & people switching off their miners.



So when there is a large transaction, it has to move the addresses for each coin and track the move?  I never completely understood the block chain part....


Title: Re: [XPM] Primecoin network stuck on block 78414
Post by: Tamis on July 22, 2013, 09:35:28 PM
It is not an attack. It's an issue in the miner that doesn't handle large block efficiently. A fix is being tested. Both the stock miner and mikaelh's miner are impacted.


Title: Re: [XPM] Primecoin network stuck on block 78414
Post by: coinerd on July 22, 2013, 09:42:25 PM
So when there is a large transaction, it has to move the addresses for each coin and track the move?  I never completely understood the block chain part....

Each block generated on the block chain creates a new "input" that input has to stay whole until it is broken apart.

So when you have a block found you don't really get X.XX coins you get an input valued at that number of coins.

Then when you spend it, it gets broken into "outputs" of various values according to the ssize of the original input and what you spent.

The piece you are spending is now owned by the receiver, and the rest of the split input is returned to your account.

Those outputs are held until you want to spend the coins, when the wallet selects from your available outputs something close in size to the amount you want to spend. The selected outputs are then used as the inpts for that spend, and the cycle continues, as each original input (coinbase) gets split into smaller and smaller outputs.

If you mined 50 12 XPM blocks on a machine, your wallet would say you have 600 XPM.  But what's really going on is you have 50 12 XPM outputs under your control.  IF you send them all to another wallet, the generated transaction will contain 50 inputs, and one output to the new wallet.

In this way the inputs are recombined so that we don't literally have to track an input/output for every fractional coin that has been re-used.

The wallet calculates a TX fee based on the size of the script required to combine the inputs into an output and return the change to the sending wallet. (ignoring some other factors like coin age).

This is why when I tried to send 20m IFC created from a ton of <100000 coin inputs I got charged a TX fee of nearly 10 IFC.

So someone that had mined a couple hundred blocks into one wallet and then tried to send all of their coins to a single receiver would cause a very large transaction to be written.

I hope that didn't add too much to your confusion ;)