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Title: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: PerryMarch on July 22, 2013, 09:19:46 PM I am curious which of these two would you go with and why? I am looking to get into mining, don't really know how to go about building my own rig, so looking at these two companies as options.
Thanks! Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: FUKT on July 27, 2013, 09:10:28 AM Butterfly Labs are your best option.
Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: bitcoindigi on July 27, 2013, 09:25:59 AM BFL is scam, do your homework before you ask please. Just search the forum.
Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: Noitev on July 27, 2013, 09:52:18 AM Not mining is your best option...
Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: Fiyasko on July 27, 2013, 09:59:19 AM LittleFury's! $350 gets you 3.5 gh/s on a usb stick simmilar to a block erupter! (I am so fucking sorry if you get scammed by them)
They seem legitamate The people with bfl PRE ORDERS have been waiting for almost 12months and they are still waiting Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: farmarjack on July 27, 2013, 10:25:05 AM Knc didnt shown any asic yet , there was only a demonstration of old fpga . BFL looks bether since they deliwered atliest asic mashines yet the waiting time for the product is horendes. If you want to mine assap than the block erupter usb or blade is your only option yet they r priced too high , so do not have high expectation on early profit. U can also buy an avalon asic miner but those r even more owerpriced becaus u can only buy one if some miner is willing to sell his own one.
Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: desired_username on July 27, 2013, 10:30:15 AM I would wait with an ASIC purchase until the market cools down. eg: BFL catches up with their back log.
The competition will be stronger when new legitimate ASIC vendors appear and deliver. No matter which company you order from I think it's crucial to be in the first "2 batches" of shipments. Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: aceking on July 27, 2013, 10:48:13 AM Not mining is your best option... thisTitle: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: PEBKAC on July 27, 2013, 12:16:32 PM With all the heat around the companies that sell ASIC or FPGA based hardware, I wouldn't recommend buying anything.
Especially BFL seems to have quite a bad reputation. If you want to get into mining just for fun, you may want to consider using an easy to use client, like Bitminter. The only requirement is having Java installed on your computer. If the goal is to get some bitcoins out of it, even if it is less than the price of electricity you put in, just make sure you have an AMD Radeon HD 4000 series graphics or higher in your computer and install the latest drivers for it. Bitminter (and most other clients) will support using it for mining. You really do not need special hardware for mining. Wether it is profitable is a whole different matter entirely. However, it is a nice way to make yourself familiar with the whole concept of mining. Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: favdesu on July 27, 2013, 12:51:37 PM Not mining is your best option... ^ use the money and buy BTC. that's the best option IMO Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: polrpaul on July 27, 2013, 01:00:10 PM Watch out for scammers - neither option is a good option unless you don't care when the goods arrive (next year).
Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: yogg on July 27, 2013, 04:14:43 PM BFL took 9 month to deliver my parcel.. ;D
I think KnC will deliver faster. Anyway, with KnC you got 2x the power you'd had with BFL. If you order with BFL, then the delivery date is critical, since you have only half the power you'd had with KnC to return your investment. Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: chiodiip on July 27, 2013, 04:34:35 PM BFL is a scammy worthless company. Go with KnCminer. They have more hashpower and cheaper and they have a better price.
No contest Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: Xian01 on July 27, 2013, 05:05:01 PM Butterfly Labs are your best option. Not sure if trolling or if serious... Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: ASICSRUS on July 27, 2013, 05:10:15 PM I am curious which of these two would you go with and why? I am looking to get into mining, don't really know how to go about building my own rig, so looking at these two companies as options. Thanks! what country do you live in?...deal with people you can actually communicate with imho ;D Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: desired_username on July 27, 2013, 09:24:30 PM BFL is a scammy worthless company. Go with KnCminer. They have more hashpower and cheaper and they have a better price. No contest They did not deliver anything as of yet. I heard that they ran into some delays making the september delivery impossible. I wouldn't buy any of these at the moment, but your argument is laughable at best. Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: goldwyn on July 27, 2013, 09:42:46 PM Just be prepared to wait
Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: Qantaqa on July 27, 2013, 11:32:33 PM I wouldn't suggest either if you want them for making money. So unless you've got some money left and like playing with miners don't do it.
If you wanna play, then I would suggest BFL. They are not to popular around here, but they are actually making and delivering those thing and the price for a small unit isn't higher then a decent GPU, while it will definitely work better. You wont see it fast, their backorders are a year behind and they keep producing slower then expected. However, since they charge 300 dollars and higher for roughly 50 dollars worth of chips and other hardware, they will make them all and deliver them. The costs were in development and that is covered, the more they can provide now, the faster they will actually start making a profit. KnCMiner has some nice rates to offer, however the product doesn't exist. They are pretending that they can deliver everything thats ordered now in october. Thats only 3 months for a product thats yet to see a prototype anywhere for fully new hardware that will have a load of revisions before it works without errors and good enough to be shipped. The optimism of the site is even worse then BFL in its early days. Off course I cant tell the future, but it would be a miracle imo if that product sees the light of day in 2013 or even the beginning of 2014. Futhermore unlike BFL you don't see any actual persons at KnCminer, there is no community and a far less professional sites. Signals that should caution you as a buyer. Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: davewr2013 on July 28, 2013, 02:53:28 AM I have found that are are some serious issues with delivery. I suggest that you check out the profit calculator published on "the genesis block" (a search will find it)-- it is a real eye-opener.
It would seem that the window for mining BTC is fast closing. According to their calculator, anything delivered after October 2013 will have a real difficult time earning any coin. It seems that it is now or never -- so to speak. If KNC delivers at their price point and on time -- even November delivery might break even. Best wishes with mining if you try it out. It's definitely slower going now than at the beginning of the month. Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: farmarjack on July 28, 2013, 07:50:07 PM The only thing you can realy buy most asap is asicminer block erupter usb . Ist bether than any gpu at the moment.It has enough hash power compared to gpu and consume less electricity . Its good for trying bitcoin mining and to some small mining .
Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: gigabuck on July 28, 2013, 08:43:49 PM I'd diversify my risk if I were you. I started about a month ago with building Adafruit's PiMiner project, getting 3 USB BlockErupters, then I found a couple of used BFL Jalapenos for a "good deal" (stupid to get these I know, but the markup from BFL's retail price was halfway sane by Ebay standards), and now I'm looking at KncMiner and Bitfury preorders next. I'm also thinking about buying BTCs when they hit these temporary ~$70USD valleys and selling when they go back up in value. I doubt I'll see ROI on what I've spent, but it has been a fun hobby so far. :D
Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: Mudbankkeith on July 28, 2013, 08:50:20 PM Hi.
Today I was still waiting for my BFL miner,( and yesterday and the day before yesterday,) I found the following table for delivery dates against BFL orders. (yes some buyers claim to have received delivery) I decided to color in the dates that BFL says are completed. (the bfl_jody blog) If you place your order in the table you can see when delivery has happened and even guess when your unit may arrive. There are many missing lines in the table but its only for fun to relieve the boredom.(and yes it is raining outside) Date Paid Order Number Trade-In (Y/N) Qty SC Jalapeno Qty SC Little Single Qty SC Single Qty SC Mini Rig Date Received User 06/23/2012 1653 N 0 0 1 0 06/21/2013 Steve 06/23/2012 - N 0 0 2 0 07/16/2013 SgtSpike 06/23/2012 1656 N 1 0 0 0 ? Garr255 06/23/2012 1657 Y 0 0 6 0 ? OgNasty 06/23/2012 1670 N 1 0 0 0 ? OgNasty 06/23/2012 1674 Y 0 0 8 0 ? Philj (PIMP) 06/23/2012 1676 Y 0 0 4 0 07/03/2013 BitMinerN8 06/23/2012 1679 N 0 0 1 0 06/20/2013 dargo 06/23/2012 1684 Y 0 0 2 0 ? fuxianhui888 06/23/2012 1686 N 2 0 0 0 ? Tachikoma 06/23/2012 1688 N 0 0 1 0 07/10/2013 BitMinerN8 06/23/2012 1697 N 0 1 0 0 ? Dargo 06/23/2012 1700 N 0 0 2 0 ? Keefe 06/23/2012 1706 N 0 1 0 0 07/20/2013 Shirik 06/23/2012 1714 N 1 0 0 0 ? mikebob 06/23/2012 1715 Y 0 0 5 0 ? Phraust 06/23/2012 1716 N 1 0 0 0 ? Billington.mark 06/23/2012 1718 Y 0 0 0 1 ? JWU42 06/23/2012 1722 Y 0 0 1 0 ? mikebob 06/23/2012 1727 N 0 0 4 0 ? xxaudioxx 06/23/2012 1749 Y 0 0 2 0 ? JWU42 06/23/2012 1769 N 0 1 0 0 07/03/2013 2weiX (bought The Joint's order) 06/23/2012 1772 Y 0 0 0 2 ? Fefox 06/23/2012 1773 N 5 0 2 0 ? dickcheney 06/23/2012 1776 N 2 0 0 0 05/21/2013 rjk 06/23/2012 1779 Y 0 0 3 0 07/10/2013 Fefox 06/23/2012 1783 Y 0 0 4 0 ? JWU42 06/23/2012 1799 N 0 0 2 0 ? DrG 06/23/2012 1806 Y 0 0 6 0 07/11/2013 KIDC 06/23/2012 1817 Y 0 0 1 0 07/25/2013 BrimStone 06/23/2012 1821 Y 0 0 1 0 ? kibblesnbits 06/23/2012 1824 N 1 0 0 0 ? runlinux 06/23/2012 1838 N 0 0 9 0 ? mindphlux 06/23/2012 1846 N 1 0 0 0 ? Keefe 06/23/2012 1691 Y 0 0 1 0 07/03/2013 BitMinerN8 06/23/2012 - Y 0 1 0 0 05/23/2013 crazyates 06/23/2012 - Y 0 0 0 4 ? gigavps 06/23/2012 - N 0 0 3 0 ? P!nk4sand 06/23/2012 - N 8 0 0 0 ? sysrun 06/24/2012 1691 N 1 0 0 0 07/02/2013 ircicq 06/24/2012 1710 Y 0 0 0 2 - BlackPrapor 06/24/2012 1734 N 1 0 0 0 ? xxaudioxx 06/24/2012 1801 Y 0 0 2 0 ? dave3 06/24/2012 1814 N 0 0 0 0 - sgravina 06/24/2012 1825 N 0 1 0 0 07/01/2013 Unacceptable 06/24/2012 1835 N 0 0 1 0 ? leofar 06/24/2012 1842 N 0 1 0 0 ? mokahless 06/24/2012 1851 N 1 0 0 0 05/23/1013 vapourminer 06/24/2012 1864 Y 0 0 3 0 ? Davincij15 06/24/2012 1870 Y 0 0 1 0 ? kjlimo 06/24/2012 1918 N 1 0 0 0 ? Miner99er 06/24/2012 1922 Y 0 0 42 0 ? bo2573 06/24/2012 1931 Y 0 0 1 0 ? LWCoder 06/24/2012 1933 N 1 0 0 0 ? LWCoder 06/24/2012 1964 N 0 0 1 0 ? kreal 06/24/2012 2015 N 2 0 0 0 ? phantitox 06/24/2012 2030 N 0 0 1 0 ? Xian01 06/24/2012 2060 Y 0 0 1 0 ? PaulTroon 06/24/2012 2062 N 4 0 0 0 ? MoonShad0w384 06/24/2012 - N 0 0 1 0 ? leofar 06/25/2012 1848 Y 0 0 3 0 ? leofar 06/25/2012 2043 N 1 0 0 0 06/28/2013 LLight (Russia) 06/25/2012 2065 N 0 1 0 0 ? server 06/25/2012 2101 Y 0 0 2 0 ? BTC-engineer 06/25/2012 2119 Y 0 0 10 0 ? somenick 06/25/2012 2121 Y 0 0 6 0 ? somenick 06/25/2012 2125 N 1 0 0 0 06/19/2013 Fefox 06/25/2012 2133 Y 16 0 0 0 ? sickstarr 06/25/2012 2137 Y 8 0 0 0 ? sickstarr 06/25/2012 2139 Y 8 0 0 0 ? sickstarr 06/25/2012 2158 Y 0 0 1 0 ? Xian01 06/25/2012 - Y 0 0 0 1 - dust 06/26/2012 1751 Y 0 0 0 1 - Michail1 06/26/2012 2150 N 0 0 3 0 - dankroxel 06/26/2012 2299 Y 0 0 1 0 - uck 06/27/2012 1972 Y 0 0 1 0 - hakock 06/27/2012 2176 N 0 0 1 0 - kaneda2004 06/27/2012 2293 N 0 1 0 0 - Photon939 06/27/2012 2355 Y 0 0 1 0 - Soros Shorts 06/27/2012 2363 N 0 0 1 0 - bitcoindaddy 06/28/2012 1817 Y 0 0 1 0 - BrimStone 06/28/2012 2430 N 0 0 2 0 - BTC-engineer 06/28/2012 2442 N 0 0 1 0 - bitcoindaddy 06/28/2012 2469 N 0 1 0 0 - ragnard 06/28/2012 2473 Y 8 0 0 0 ? juggalodarkclow 06/28/2012 - Y 0 0 2 0 - hausmarke 06/28/2012 - Y 0 0 1 0 - psilan 06/29/2012 2278 N 1 0 0 0 ? server 06/29/2012 2360 Y 0 0 0 1 - fulepp 06/29/2012 2456 N 0 0 1 0 - BrimStone 06/29/2012 2498 Y 0 0 1 0 - freshzive 06/30/2012 2451 Y 0 0 2 0 - leofar 06/30/2012 2548 N 0 0 1 0 - KyleH 06/30/2012 2658 N 0 1 0 0 - 2weiX 01/07/2012 2593 N 1 0 0 0 ? Starlightbreaker 01/07/2012 2595 N 2 0 0 0 ? asdlsd 01/07/2012 2596 N 0 1 0 0 - real1510 01/07/2012 2624 N 1 0 0 0 ? bpd 02/07/2012 2194 N 0 0 2 0 - melco 02/07/2012 2229 N 1 0 0 0 06/21/2013 mightygoose 02/07/2012 2423 N 0 0 1 0 - mentalove 02/07/2012 2637 N 0 0 1 0 - Squall1066 02/07/2012 2642 Y 0 0 1 0 - Jebus 02/07/2012 2682 Y 0 0 2 0 - bonks 03/07/2012 2708 N 5 0 0 0 ? xxaudioxx 03/07/2012 2764 N 1 0 0 0 ? bitboyben 04/07/2012 2731 N 0 0 1 0 - leofar 04/07/2012 2777 N 1 0 0 0 ? bitcoindaddy 04/07/2012 2787 N 0 0 2 0 - xxaudioxx 04/07/2012 2807 N 1 0 0 0 ? Alex AXe 05/07/2012 2675 Y 0 0 0 1 - LivTru 05/07/2012 2831 N 0 0 1 0 - Pinwheel 05/07/2012 2833 N 2 0 0 0 ? neiros --/--/---- 2838 N 1 0 0 0 ? mich --/--/---- 2839 N 1 0 0 0 ? mich 06/07/2012 - N 0 1 0 0 - 2GOOD 06/07/2012 - Y 0 0 3 0 - Kjlimo 06/07/2012 - N 0 0 1 0 - Kjlimo 07/07/2012 2943 Y 0 0 1 0 - LivTru 07/07/2012 2951 N 0 1 0 0 - aigeezer 08/07/2012 2977 N 0 0 3 0 - Grouver 08/07/2012 2979 N 1 0 0 0 ? whonesta 09/07/2012 3017 N 0 0 1 0 - mikeo 09/07/2012 3028 Y 0 0 1 0 - tarrant_01 09/07/2012 3063 N - - - - - OmegaNemesis28 11/07/2012 3004 N 0 0 2 0 - hacknoid 11/07/2013 3104 N 1 0 0 0 ? conde 11/07/2012 3121 N 0 0 0 0 - Nikitavoz 11/07/2012 3146 Y 8 0 0 0 ? davidspitzer 11/07/2012 3147 Y 0 0 10 0 - davidspitzer 07/13/2012 3063 N 0 0 1 0 - OmegaNemesis28 07/13/2012 3242 N 0 0 1 0 - sgravina 07/15/2012 1208 N 0 0 1 0 - 2weiX 07/15/2012 3316 N 0 0 1 0 - KyleH 07/15/2012 3340 N 1 0 0 0 ? Mushroomized 07/16/2012 1693 N 0 1 0 0 - crazyates 07/16/2012 3347 Y 0 0 1 0 - Crazyates 07/16/2012 3369 N 0 0 1 0 - brox 07/16/2012 3421 N 1 0 0 0 06/07/2013 chrisrico 07/16/2012 5501 N 6 0 0 0 ? Abdullah 07/17/2012 3226 N 0 0 1 0 - mohawk38 07/17/2012 3295 Y 0 0 5 0 - nedbert9 07/18/2012 3448 N 0 1 0 0 - leofar 07/18/2012 3483 N 0 0 2 0 - SimBesh 07/18/2012 3540 N 0 0 0 2 - avidreader 07/19/2012 3430 Y 0 0 1 0 - mohawk38 07/19/2012 3550 N 3 0 0 0 ? yogafan 07/19/2012 3615 N 0 0 1 0 - m3sSh3aD 07/19/2012 3626 Y 0 0 2 0 - nedbert9 07/20/2012 3621 N 3 0 0 0 ? avidreader 07/21/2012 3734 Y 0 0 1 0 - owdbetts 07/22/2012 3758 N 2 0 0 0 ? fatpan 07/23/2012 3127 N 0 0 2 0 - Nikitavoz 07/24/2012 3724 N 0 0 3 0 - avidreader 07/24/2012 3865 N 1 0 0 0 06/21/2013 Azrael_PT 07/24/2012 3899 N 0 0 1 0 - OgNasty 07/24/2012 3900 N 0 0 1 0 - OgNasty 07/26/2012 3976 N 1 0 0 0 ? dyingdreams 07/26/2012 3980 N 0 0 4 0 - Acejam 07/29/2012 4093 N 1 0 0 0 ? vom 07/29/2012 4137 N 0 0 1 0 - couchinator 01/08/2012 4241 N 0 1 0 0 - kroneko 01/08/2012 4260 N 0 0 2 0 - BTC-engineer 02/08/2012 4272 N 1 0 0 0 ? Subo1978 02/08/2012 4364 N 0 0 0 1 - fuxianhui888 03/08/2012 4028 N 0 0 1 0 - jojo69 03/08/2012 4423 N 0 0 1 0 - Aurics 03/08/2012 4443 N 1 0 0 0 ? Khanduras 03/08/2012 4446 N 1 0 0 0 ? vom 04/08/2012 4479 N 0 0 1 0 - kroneko 04/08/2012 4494 N 0 0 2 0 - BTC-engineer 05/08/2012 4565 N 0 1 0 0 - nomorecoin 05/08/2012 4571 N 1 0 0 0 06/18/2013 TechCF 05/08/2012 4574 N 1 0 0 0 ? Hfertig 05/08/2012 - N 0 0 1 0 - SLok 06/08/2012 4615 N 1 0 0 0 06/17/2013 Atroxes 06/08/2012 4626 Y 0 0 1 0 - somenick 06/08/2012 4646 N 0 0 1 0 - nederhoed 08/08/2012 4527 Y 0 0 1 0 - firefop 08/08/2012 4769 N 0 0 1 0 - Joshwaa 08/08/2012 4839 Y 0 0 2 0 - uck 08/08/2012 4843 N 4 0 0 0 ? miner3gazillionand8 08/08/2012 - Y 0 0 1 0 - ChipGeek 09/08/2012 4886 N 0 0 3 0 - dankroxel 09/08/2012 4891 N 0 0 0 1 - somenick 09/08/2012 4923 N 2 0 0 0 ? Eveofwar 05/08/2012 4925 N 0 1 0 0 - jaywalka2713 11/08/2012 4996 N 1 0 0 0 ? SgtMoth 12/08/2012 5049 Y 1 0 0 0 ? Mapuo 12/08/2012 5107 Y 0 0 0 1 - uck 08/13/2012 5175 N 0 0 0 2 - bitarrow 08/13/2012 5177 N 5 0 0 0 ? Testit 08/13/2012 5225 N 0 0 1 0 - arruah 08/14/2012 5210 N 0 0 1 0 - Joshwaa 08/14/2012 - N 0 0 2 0 - Mike85123 08/15/2012 5284 N 2 0 0 0 06/21/2013 ninjaboon 08/16/2012 5422 N 0 0 2 0 - midnight 08/16/2012 5467 N 0 0 1 0 - Korbman 08/16/2012 5502 Y 0 0 1 0 - LivTru 08/16/2012 5511 N 0 0 2 0 - happyland 08/16/2012 5515 N 0 0 2 0 - Chomp 08/16/2012 - N 0 0 1 0 - tbcoin 08/18/2012 - Y 0 0 0 1 - tytus 08/21/2012 5520 N 0 0 3 0 - Jebus 08/22/2012 - N 0 0 1 0 - bronan 08/24/2012 6100 N 0 0 1 0 - cyberenot 08/24/2012 6148 N 1 1 0 0 ? Chomp 08/26/2012 6276 N 0 0 1 0 - nederhoed 08/27/2012 6300 N 1 0 2 0 ? Insu Dra 08/27/2012 6366 N 1 0 0 0 ? 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in particular, i've been eyeballing some of the companies that claim that they do (or will) sell assembled Avalon-based boards. in particular, TerraHash has my attention for now. at this point, is it even reasonable to expect that the Avalon chips will ever reach positive ROI given the pricing offered by these companies, and the electricity they consume? Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: Zammo on July 28, 2013, 09:50:29 PM The LittleFury USB miner looks really interesting but it doesn't look like they are going to get produced any time soon
Title: Re: KnCMiner or BFL Post by: Xian01 on July 29, 2013, 12:14:25 AM they are actually making and delivering those thing ... at a snails pace. You have no guarantee of receiving your order in any reasonable or estimable time-frame. KNC is slated to ship an objectively better product by end of September. |