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Title: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 19, 2017, 07:31:10 AM
This project has been abandoned by developers.

Current state: building source.
Current state: perform protocol tests.
Current state: Announce datetime for launch (CONFIRMED genesis print UTC 21:14 22/12/2017).
Current state: Genesis build (100%) + Upload Source code & linux binaries 64bits.
Current state: Run seed nodes.
Current state:  Launched at UTC 21:57 22/12/2017.



|||||||||   CATON   |||||||||
Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Catalonian based - Private - Fair  




Initially made with a bare cryptonote fork, Caton aims to be used in Catalonia but not limited to.
With ecology in mind developers team are implementing a diff target limit that will decrease the block reward proportionally when the difficulty is bigger than the target diff. Target Diff is updated with a fork every winter solstice, having in mind the current hardware hashrate and its power consumption. Initial limit will be the diff equivalent to 2.1GH/s

At the moment developers aren't being announced due the possible Spanish state repression. Depending on the government response developers will be revealed. (Check 1st October 2017 catalonian referendum news to know what happened to people who want to vote. Government seized domains, reported to the courts people who organized a referendum and jailed preventively who defended the independence peacefully, catalonian government was dissolved by the prime minister Mariano Rajoy).


Launch date:
Caton's genesis tx has been generated on UTC 21/12/2017 at 22:48.
Caton's genesis tx has been generated on UTC 22/12/2017 at 21:14.
Caton's seed nodes launched on UTC 22/12/2017 at 21:57.


Specs:
PoW: Cryptonight
Block target time: 180s
Total supply: 14.000.000 CTN
Fair launch (UTC 22/12/2017 at 21:57, no premine, no instamine)
High diff block reward penalty
(Visit cryptonote.org to know more about cryptonote technology)


Source code and binaries:
Source code (https://github.com/catoncurrency/caton/archive/v.0.0.0.2.zip)
Linux x64 binaries (https://github.com/catoncurrency/caton/releases/download/v.0.0.0.2/caton-linux-x64-v0.0.0.2.tar.gz)
Linux x86 binaries: Next days
Windows binaries: building & testing



Roadmap & Eviroment:
Implement difficulty penalties
Foundation's website
User guides



V0.0.0.1 Note:
Due a mistake with caton's parameters, launched chain on 21/12 isn't valid. Those who mined some catons on the broken chain, before height 593, will be credited proportionally with some catons in new chain (not all mined units) be sure to keep a copy of daemon folder (renamed, in order to run new chain), do not delete your wallet files to perform the mined accreditation (do not use in new blockchain).



Twitter: @catonfoundation



Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: thin on December 19, 2017, 07:42:56 AM
2 Cryptonight coins is too much for a single Catalonia, see croat.cat/en/home/


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 19, 2017, 08:31:07 AM
We don't think that 2 coins are too much for Catalonia, but Caton is not limited to Catalonia. If you look closer there are differences between them.
However market will decide what happens.
Thanks for your opinion.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: tippytoes on December 19, 2017, 08:38:55 AM
We don't think that 2 coins are too much for Catalonia, but Caton is not limited to Catalonia. If you look closer there are differences between them.
However market will decide what happens.
Thanks for your opinion.

Yes, you are right, Market will decide what happens to the coin, but how it will perform in the market depends also with the developer. With that, the dev team has big role to fulfill to make this coin alive.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 19, 2017, 08:52:22 AM
We don't think that 2 coins are too much for Catalonia, but Caton is not limited to Catalonia. If you look closer there are differences between them.
However market will decide what happens.
Thanks for your opinion.

Yes, you are right, Market will decide what happens to the coin, but how it will perform in the market depends also with the developer. With that, the dev team has big role to fulfill to make this coin alive.

We, the devs, are fully compromised with the development and maintenance of the coin and its environment. What happens is that we won't announce our real names right now, as is explained.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: thin on December 19, 2017, 08:56:25 AM
Explain what do you mean by a fair launch - will be there are some instamine or first block with some huge amount?


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 19, 2017, 09:15:51 AM
Explain what do you mean by a fair launch - will be there are some instamine or first block with some huge amount?

At the specified time, genesis block will be generated, tx included in the source and source code will be posted on github.
With fair we mean that anyone, including the coin foundation, will have the same opportunities to run a node and miners.
No premine, no instamine, first block reward will be calculated with (m_moneySupply - alreadyGeneratedCoins) >> m_emissionSpeedFactor.



Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: ramcrypto on December 21, 2017, 05:20:48 AM
hii i would like to know abt the roadmap for the coin
when will u list the coin in exchnages because if u list the coin in exchnage before the craot coin u will have an upper hand over it that too in gud exchnage will work not some idiotic eexchnages like coinsmarkets.com
make sure u release gui wallet....


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: divedaucd on December 21, 2017, 05:23:56 AM
another croat coin?  :o


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: ElizaZX on December 21, 2017, 05:29:25 AM
I understand you is not easy. But what about Catalonia long before Spain and the European Union? How will this affect the price of the future state coin and how will it be reinforced if the crisis has not yet ended?


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: Havven on December 21, 2017, 06:00:33 AM
For anyone who's interested, our team wrote up a paper on how cryptocurrency could assist Catalan financial independence: https://blog.havven.io/catalan-independence-and-the-blockchain-6bc77fab851c (https://blog.havven.io/catalan-independence-and-the-blockchain-6bc77fab851c)


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: thin on December 21, 2017, 01:09:35 PM
make sure u release gui wallet....

they promised Linux binary )


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: HyperBillions on December 21, 2017, 01:13:13 PM
Seems interesting) Where can we learn some more about this coin? Do you have the official website?


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: thin on December 21, 2017, 04:25:51 PM


Launch date:
Caton genesis block will be generated on UTC 21/12/2017 at 16:28
Source code and binaries (gnu/linux) will be posted on github's page after. (Check url on the specified date)



common - let's start

you have promised fair start, and where it is? 10 mins passed since fair launch time, and there is nothing available for the public


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: noloco on December 21, 2017, 04:39:48 PM


Launch date:
Caton genesis block will be generated on UTC 21/12/2017 at 16:28
Source code and binaries (gnu/linux) will be posted on github's page after. (Check url on the specified date)



common - let's start

you have promised fair start, and where it is? 10 mins passed since fair launch time, and there is nothing available for the public

They created the new coin and are now mining independently on their own fork :D


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: thin on December 21, 2017, 04:52:39 PM
github is empty https://github.com/catonfoundation

Spain police took them to avoid independent cryptocoin ?


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: thelastone on December 21, 2017, 04:56:22 PM
what should we do sir?
can you give us more information? I mean your website.
is this trading? or mining?


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 22, 2017, 12:22:16 AM
make sure u release gui wallet....

they promised Linux binary )

Performing last tests on binaries and listing dependencies. In few minutes will be available on our github.
Source code is already available to be built.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: divedaucd on December 22, 2017, 01:05:57 AM
make sure u release gui wallet....

they promised Linux binary )

Performing last tests on binaries and listing dependencies. In few minutes will be available on our github.
Source code is already available to be built.

already mined some blocks but dont know it's correct chain or not. height currently is 66. dev can you give more some informations? block reward? how many blocks confirm?


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: captainplauze on December 22, 2017, 01:07:45 AM
There will be any bounty  campaign for this Project¿


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 22, 2017, 01:20:53 AM
make sure u release gui wallet....

they promised Linux binary )

Performing last tests on binaries and listing dependencies. In few minutes will be available on our github.
Source code is already available to be built.

already mined some blocks but dont know it's correct chain or not. height currently is 66. dev can you give more some informations? block reward? how many blocks confirm?

Yes, you are on right chain,  current block reward is rounding 66755.
60 blocks to confirm 3hours.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 22, 2017, 01:34:20 AM
There will be any bounty  campaign for this Project¿

Yes, we are planing main bounties. Stay in touch during next weeks, more info will be posted.
Right now is more profitable run your own miner.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: aironeous on December 22, 2017, 03:48:27 AM
Connection details? How to create a wallet for this?


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: divedaucd on December 22, 2017, 04:05:08 AM
Connection details? How to create a wallet for this?
at first run catond and wait to sync fully, then run simplewallet - press G to create - name wallet - password - done.

in windows wait for next days.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: ramcrypto on December 22, 2017, 04:14:42 AM
how to build a wallet in windows
can anyone help
can't find right guides


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: ramcrypto on December 22, 2017, 04:15:42 AM
There will be any bounty  campaign for this Project¿

Yes, we are planing main bounties. Stay in touch during next weeks, more info will be posted.
Right now is more profitable run your own miner.
bro how to build a wallet in windows


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: maxel83 on December 22, 2017, 04:27:44 AM
How much CTN do you created?


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: divedaucd on December 22, 2017, 05:06:17 AM
How much CTN do you created?

Specs:
POW: Cryptonight
block target time: 180s
Total supply: 14.000.000 CTN
Fair launch
High diff block reward penalty
(Visit cryptonote.org to know more about cryptonote technology)


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: phieudu2601 on December 22, 2017, 05:10:52 AM
Reserved. What a pity when not know about developer team due the possible Spanish state repression. But I believed your project eventually deserved to succeed. Wait for more updates.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: nikoland2 on December 22, 2017, 08:45:20 AM
and when the stock exchange release will be ???


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: thin on December 22, 2017, 08:51:59 AM

Specs:
POW: Cryptonight
block target time: 180s
Total supply: 14.000.000 CTN
Fair launch
High diff block reward penalty
(Visit cryptonote.org to know more about cryptonote technology)

https://github.com/catoncurrency/caton/blob/master/src/CryptoNoteConfig.h

const uint64_t MONEY_SUPPLY                                  =  UINT64_C(14000000000000000000);

it looks rather like 140 000 000 000.00000000 CTN


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: divedaucd on December 22, 2017, 08:53:50 AM
and when the stock exchange release will be ???
soon, calm down sir, the coin just launched today, we need time, if you want to push it please donate to paid stock. :D


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: divedaucd on December 22, 2017, 08:56:06 AM

Specs:
POW: Cryptonight
block target time: 180s
Total supply: 14.000.000 CTN
Fair launch
High diff block reward penalty
(Visit cryptonote.org to know more about cryptonote technology)

https://github.com/catoncurrency/caton/blob/master/src/CryptoNoteConfig.h

const uint64_t MONEY_SUPPLY                                  =  UINT64_C(14000000000000000000);

it looks rather like 140 000 000 000.00000000 CTN
you're right! it's used 12 decimal, 14000000000000000000 = 14,000,000.000000000000 = 14 mil


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: thin on December 22, 2017, 09:00:44 AM
you're right! it's used 12 decimal, 14000000000000000000 = 14,000,000.000000000000 = 14 mil

Quote
Yes, you are on right chain,  current block reward is rounding 66755.

you are bad in math, or missed something

14 mil / 66755 = 209  blocks only, and we are past block 500 by now, so already generated 33 mil + CTN

https://github.com/catoncurrency/caton/blob/master/src/CryptoNoteConfig.h
const size_t   CRYPTONOTE_DISPLAY_DECIMAL_POINT              = 8;


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: divedaucd on December 22, 2017, 09:59:32 AM
you're right! it's used 12 decimal, 14000000000000000000 = 14,000,000.000000000000 = 14 mil

Quote
Yes, you are on right chain,  current block reward is rounding 66755.

you are bad in math, or missed something

14 mil / 66755 = 209  blocks only, and we are past block 500 by now, so already generated 33 mil + CTN

https://github.com/catoncurrency/caton/blob/master/src/CryptoNoteConfig.h
const size_t   CRYPTONOTE_DISPLAY_DECIMAL_POINT              = 8;

yep, i'm very bad at code, just saw 14mil with 12 decimal is matched, so i guess 14mil. didnt check on github, you're right only 209 blocks.  ;)


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: thin on December 22, 2017, 11:03:31 AM
I guess coin should be declared dead, everything had failed . Start at wrong time, dev does not understand sources, the only changes he did - just changed few bytes.

If Catalonian independence depends on people like that - no surprise it fails

Fortunately - Croat coin is looks much better organized, great site, comminity, pools, everything


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 22, 2017, 04:11:27 PM
I guess coin should be declared dead, everything had failed .

This coin isn't dead, you don't decide that.


just changed few bytes.

Look at the initial post, we specified bare fork, yes we only changed few bytes at the moment and for the launch on 21/12.


Start at wrong time, dev does not understand sources

This week, we have problems on our building's connection. Was a problem with our ISP network. Yes we understand cryptonote's protocol.
First of all in tests we thought that there was a problem with simplewallet what displayed bad the decimal point due the leak of maintenance in cryptonote's source code. Today we was working on it, but now, with your help, what we really appreciate, we concluded that you are right. We don't put 12 decimals. We thought that 12 decimals was the default value because cryptonote's guide caused confusion to us with uint64_t -1 size that starts with 18446744 and is the same amount that the emission curve calculator displays in their example, what makes us to figure out that by default was 12 decimals. Why happened that? I personally think that we was too focused on reward formula and to launch in 21 dec.


Fortunately - Croat coin is looks much better organized, great site, comminity, pools, everything

Ok, this thread is about caton. Seems that you are only participating on this thread to discredit caton. Is this a bounty task from croat? (I'm joking)
Get lucky mining croat but remember we don't include this line in our code:
const uint64_t GENESIS_BLOCK_REWARD = 1500000000000000000;
Our intentions aren't to take profit with the launch of the coin.
We just started, pools are also being adapted. Organization is fantastic, you can't see it because your aren't part of the team and i repeat, we just started. Ok we don't have an enormous budget but we are normal people with fair intentions.


Finally thanks for your sincere opinion.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 22, 2017, 04:21:04 PM
hii i would like to know abt the roadmap for the coin
when will u list the coin in exchnages because if u list the coin in exchnage before the craot coin u will have an upper hand over it that too in gud exchnage will work not some idiotic eexchnages like coinsmarkets.com
make sure u release gui wallet....


First of all, this is not a competition with croat in any way. 
We will start requesting exchange inclusion when we have an enough network strength and coin popularity.
Of course gui wallet is in our list of TODOS but there are with more preference.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: aironeous on December 22, 2017, 04:36:41 PM
Connection details? How to create a wallet for this?
at first run catond and wait to sync fully, then run simplewallet - press G to create - name wallet - password - done.

in windows wait for next days.

Sorry I'm not that knowledgable. I'm on Kde Neon which is ubuntu based running bfgminer with some usb asics
I've mined various scrypt coins with bfgminer. I just change the .sh file with text editor connection details and address or worker name password
So I need to install catond from somewhere and simplewallet from somewhere and then get that address and put it into bfgminer?
Is there a pool? Do I setup workers. Connection details?

edit: oops got myself turned backwards. Cryptonight is not scrypt. Not bfg miner different program. Sorry getting used to this.
Your coin is mined with gpu.
I still need to know connection details for gpu mining I'm using minergate other pools. There pool login is wallet address and just need connection details.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: thin on December 22, 2017, 04:39:13 PM

First of all, this is not a competition with croat in any way.  
We will start requesting exchange inclusion when we have an enough network strength and coin popularity.
Of course gui wallet is in our list of TODOS but there are with more preference.



how  do you explain that info you provide about your coin so wrong?

1. Mining start was promised at at 16:28, but sources to the public were provided only after midnight. Only this means hidden premine, as dev was only person to mine till morning. Is it what you mean by "fair" ?
2. Coin should have 14 кк total supply.  10 times more will be in fact reached tomorrow or next  day.
3. Just estimate cost of your currency, with a price 1 sat = 1CTN. By the time generated around 50-60 kk CTN. Do you really believe you (and miners, even me) earned  0.5-0.6 BTC since midnight? That's ridiculous.  Just in case  you believe  - provide me my part  of 1000 000 sat for an exchange to 1 000 000 CTN. Please note - that such amount will be generated every day. Means no way it could be traded on btc market, simply NEVER. only DOGE, that's if coin ever reached exchange, which I personally doubt.
4. The code simply came untested. Otherwise I can't imagine how did you missed calculation of maximum supply.
5. what this coins has innovative comparing to 2 year old code?  Change of the coin name and change of the CRYPTONOTE_NETWORK  constant?
6. just think about all above, and stop your nodes, as this is a parody to good cryptocoin.
7. Say sorry to bitcointalk community.

P.S. original post even does not have any info about mining setup - ports, solo mining configs, etc. No pool were provided.  Means the only chance to mine it from start - you are already half professional in crypto, otherwise you can not participate.  Or I miss something and Catalonian people setup cryptonight pool on linux just like prepare paella ?

P.P.S You are so lazy, so still did not changed maximum supply in the first message, although 14kk coins were generated before sunrise


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 22, 2017, 05:32:44 PM

First of all, this is not a competition with croat in any way.  
We will start requesting exchange inclusion when we have an enough network strength and coin popularity.
Of course gui wallet is in our list of TODOS but there are with more preference.



how  do you explain that info you provide about your coin so wrong?

1. Mining start was promised at at 16:28, but sources to the public were provided only after midnight. Only this means hidden premine, as dev was only person to mine till morning. Is it what you mean by "fair" ?
2. Coin should have 14 кк total supply.  10 times more will be in fact reached tomorrow or next  day.
3. Just estimate cost of your currency, with a price 1 sat = 1CTN. By the time generated around 50-60 kk CTN. Do you really believe you (and miners, even me) earned  0.5-0.6 BTC since midnight? That's ridiculous.  Just in case  you believe  - provide me my part  of 1000 000 sat for an exchange to 1 000 000 CTN. Please note - that such amount will be generated every day. Means no way it could be traded on btc market, simply NEVER. only DOGE, that's if coin ever reached exchange, which I personally doubt.
4. The code simply came untested. Otherwise I can't imagine how did you missed calculation of maximum supply.
5. what this coins has innovative comparing to 2 year old code?  Change of the coin name and change of the CRYPTONOTE_NETWORK  constant?
6. just think about all above, and stop your nodes, as this is a parody to good cryptocoin.
7. Say sorry to bitcointalk community.

P.S. original post even does not have any info about mining setup - ports, solo mining configs, etc. No pool were provided.  Means the only chance to mine it from start - you are already half professional in crypto, otherwise you can not participate.  Or I miss something and Catalonian people setup cryptonight pool on linux just like prepare paella ?

P.P.S You are so lazy, so still did not changed maximum supply in the first message, although 14kk coins were generated before sunrise

Sorry, from now, you will be treated as a troll because you are not respecting us. You can read again and some questions will be answered. Max supply will be 14.000.000. Other affirmations are simply a lie.  We are to lazy to demonstrate anything to you in particular.
Till you respect us as a team we won't answer any comment you do.

Again thanks for sharing your thoughts.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: thin on December 22, 2017, 05:52:57 PM
Other affirmations are simply a lie.

tell me at least one which is a lie?

and it is true, I do not show respect to you, because respect needs to be deserved, and you've  failed.
I spend few hours mining this shitty coin, before I fully understood how bad dev  team is.

you say you were focused on launching on 21. But why? Good devs first prepare for launch, than do good announce and launch. Bad devs telling  tales about ISP problems. and finally - where you spent the time? You didn't developed anything, just fork, change few lines, that's it.  You can release 10 coins per day like that


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 22, 2017, 07:52:58 PM
Other affirmations are simply a lie.

tell me at least one which is a lie?

and it is true, I do not show respect to you, because respect needs to be deserved, and you've  failed.
I spend few hours mining this shitty coin, before I fully understood how bad dev  team is.

you say you were focused on launching on 21. But why? Good devs first prepare for launch, than do good announce and launch. Bad devs telling  tales about ISP problems. and finally - where you spent the time? You didn't developed anything, just fork, change few lines, that's it.  You can release 10 coins per day like that

To mention one, nº1, evidence below, look at the hours, 66 height corresponds to 3 hours running aprox. Broken chain was launched fairly, at 22:58 UTC on 21/12/2017. Only the delay which takes rebuilding with genesis tx, compressing and uploading into repo.

make sure u release gui wallet....

they promised Linux binary )

Performing last tests on binaries and listing dependencies. In few minutes will be available on our github.
Source code is already available to be built.

already mined some blocks but dont know it's correct chain or not. height currently is 66. dev can you give more some informations? block reward? how many blocks confirm?


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: scambust on December 22, 2017, 07:57:27 PM
Isn't country coins passe'? We had Auroracoin for Iceland, mazacoin for the Navajo nation in the USA, Spaincoin, Asiacoin, etc. I don't think country coins will ever work unless the government is the one minting the coins.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: Georgi Tsankov on December 22, 2017, 08:01:52 PM
I don't understand why would Spanish government want to do something bad about cryptocurrency developer, even when they name there coin Catalonia Coin. We already have Navajo coin, and US government don't care about it.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 22, 2017, 08:17:02 PM
Isn't country coins passe'? We had Auroracoin for Iceland, mazacoin for the Navajo nation in the USA, Spaincoin, Asiacoin, etc. I don't think country coins will ever work unless the government is the one minting the coins.

Is based on and intended to be used in Catalonia but not limited to. We don't want any central administration managing our coin, only and fully p2p.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: thin on December 22, 2017, 08:17:25 PM

To mention one, nº1, evidence below, look at the hours, 66 height corresponds to 3 hours running aprox. Broken chain was launched fairly, at 22:58 UTC on 21/12/2017. Only the delay which takes rebuilding with genesis tx, compressing and uploading into repo.


so - where do I lie? I said you originally  promised to start mining at 16:28 UTC , which is good time , but moved launch to the night,  did not make any changes in announcement, about when mining will actually start, and people, who wanted to participate in fair start, simply went to bed. Therefore willingly or unwillingly you did not allow to  everyone start at the same time.



Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: mbs32 on December 22, 2017, 08:22:20 PM

Due a mistake with caton's config parameters, we must announce that the launched chain on 21/12 isn't valid, adopters can continue running their nodes but we will support the new chain with 14M of total supply only. Those who mined some catons on the broken chain, before height 593, will be credited proportionally with some catons in new chain (not all mined units) be sure to keep a copy of daemon folder (renamed, in order to run new chain), do not delete your wallet files to perform the mined accreditation (do not use in new blockchain).
Stay tuned, new launch will be soon.


Current state: building source.
Current state: perform protocol tests.
Current state: Announce datetime for launch (CONFIRMED genesis print UTC 21:14 22/12/2017).
Next state: Genesis build + Upload Source code & linux binaries 64bits






|||||||||   CATON   |||||||||
Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Catalonian based - Private - Fair  




Initially made with a bare cryptonote fork, Caton aims to be used in Catalonia but not limited to.
With ecology in mind developers team are implementing a diff target limit that will decrease the block reward proportionally when the difficulty is bigger than the target diff. Target Diff is updated with a fork every winter solstice, having in mind the current hardware hashrate and its power consumption. Initial limit will be the diff equivalent to 2.1GH/s

At the moment developers aren't being announced due the possible Spanish state repression. Depending on the government response developers will be revealed. (Check 1st October 2017 catalonian referendum news to know what happened to people who want to vote. Government seized domains, reported to the courts people who organized a referendum and jailed preventively who defended the independence peacefully, catalonian government was dissolved by the prime minister Mariano Rajoy).


Launch date:
Caton genesis tx has been generated on UTC 21/12/2017 at 22:48.


Specs:
POW: Cryptonight
block target time: 180s
Total supply: 14.000.000 CTN
Fair launch
High diff block reward penalty
(Visit cryptonote.org to know more about cryptonote technology)


Source code and binaries:
Source code: https://github.com/catoncurrency/caton (https://github.com/catoncurrency/caton)
Linux x64 binaries: https://github.com/catoncurrency/caton/releases/download/v0.0.0.1/caton-linux-x64-v0.0.0.1.tar.gz (https://github.com/catoncurrency/caton/releases/download/v0.0.0.1/caton-linux-x64-v0.0.0.1.tar.gz)
Linux x86 binaries: Next days
Windows binaries: Next days





Twitter: @catonfoundation


Hello!

How many days for windows wallet?

have Airdrop our bountie????

Best regards!


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 22, 2017, 08:26:19 PM
I don't understand why would Spanish government want to do something bad about cryptocurrency developer, even when they name there coin Catalonia Coin. We already have Navajo coin, and US government don't care about it.

What we are doing is completely legal and allowed by spanish law, but due recently scenarios where some people was reported to the courts and some of them jailed preventively when the only thing that they done was organizing a referendum or cloning websites with information about it, we decided don't announce who we are at the moment, but not being anonymous, to avoid undesired circumstances.
I also recommend read about sept-oct-nov 2017 Catalonia referendum, Spain.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: thin on December 22, 2017, 08:26:29 PM

How many days for windows wallet?


if you are really want to participate just install oracle virtual box and download ubuntu image


the issue you will not be able to mine until someone setup a public pool, and for me it is quite strange that devs are not providing it.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: googol.star on December 22, 2017, 08:30:37 PM
I don't think Spain would go after you if you show your faces. Unless this becomes as big as Bitcoin, which chances are nil. But what are they going to charge you witch, creating a coin? It's Spain, not North Korea. (I assume it's Spain.)


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 22, 2017, 08:34:42 PM

To mention one, nº1, evidence below, look at the hours, 66 height corresponds to 3 hours running aprox. Broken chain was launched fairly, at 22:58 UTC on 21/12/2017. Only the delay which takes rebuilding with genesis tx, compressing and uploading into repo.


so - where do I lie? I said you originally  promised to start mining at 16:28 UTC , which is good time , but moved launch to the night,  did not make any changes in announcement, about when mining will actually start, and people, who wanted to participate in fair start, simply went to bed. Therefore willingly or unwillingly you did not allow to  everyone start at the same time.



This is not the same as

1. Mining start was promised at at 16:28, but sources to the public were provided only after midnight. Only this means hidden premine, as dev was only person to mine till morning. Is it what you mean by "fair" ?

Ok, is obvious, and symbolic, block 1 is mined by devs. While source and binary are being uploaded we start our seed nodes.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: thin on December 22, 2017, 08:38:36 PM

To mention one, nº1, evidence below, look at the hours, 66 height corresponds to 3 hours running aprox. Broken chain was launched fairly, at 22:58 UTC on 21/12/2017. Only the delay which takes rebuilding with genesis tx, compressing and uploading into repo.


so - where do I lie? I said you originally  promised to start mining at 16:28 UTC , which is good time , but moved launch to the night,  did not make any changes in announcement, about when mining will actually start, and people, who wanted to participate in fair start, simply went to bed. Therefore willingly or unwillingly you did not allow to  everyone start at the same time.



This is not the same as

1. Mining start was promised at at 16:28, but sources to the public were provided only after midnight. Only this means hidden premine, as dev was only person to mine till morning. Is it what you mean by "fair" ?

Ok, is obvious, and symbolic, block 1 is mined by devs. While source and binary are being uploaded we start our seed nodes.

again - promised at 16:28, but provided sources after midnight - is there is a  single word not true?
And this leads to the fact that most of the night only dev team was able to mine, as the rest was already sleeping without an update.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 22, 2017, 08:42:47 PM
I don't think Spain would go after you if you show your faces. Unless this becomes as big as Bitcoin, which chances are nil. But what are they going to charge you witch, creating a coin? It's Spain, not North Korea. (I assume it's Spain.)

There are people accused of rebellion without any kind of violence. Multitudinary concentrations of peacefully people are considered as the beginning of the crime.



Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 22, 2017, 08:48:50 PM

To mention one, nº1, evidence below, look at the hours, 66 height corresponds to 3 hours running aprox. Broken chain was launched fairly, at 22:58 UTC on 21/12/2017. Only the delay which takes rebuilding with genesis tx, compressing and uploading into repo.


so - where do I lie? I said you originally  promised to start mining at 16:28 UTC , which is good time , but moved launch to the night,  did not make any changes in announcement, about when mining will actually start, and people, who wanted to participate in fair start, simply went to bed. Therefore willingly or unwillingly you did not allow to  everyone start at the same time.



This is not the same as

1. Mining start was promised at at 16:28, but sources to the public were provided only after midnight. Only this means hidden premine, as dev was only person to mine till morning. Is it what you mean by "fair" ?

Ok, is obvious, and symbolic, block 1 is mined by devs. While source and binary are being uploaded we start our seed nodes.

again - promised at 16:28, but provided sources after midnight - is there is a  single word not true?
And this leads to the fact that most of the night only dev team was able to mine, as the rest was already sleeping without an update.

Not after midnight, sources was available just after genesis tx was included. I was referencing the fair launch, not the delay of the launch.
Note that most of us have a different timezone and I speacilly work when the moon is up.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 22, 2017, 09:01:52 PM

How many days for windows wallet?


if you are really want to participate just install oracle virtual box and download ubuntu image


the issue you will not be able to mine until someone setup a public pool, and for me it is quite strange that devs are not providing it.

Due the number of requests we will prioritize windows's builds, hope that tomorrow them will be uploaded, note that gui wallet won't be available at the same time as cmd binaries but is also intended to bring to you soon.
Of course who wants can mine without a pool, by now hr is low and you can mine without pool, doing it directly with daemon or included miner, there are also some miners that ara capable of solo mining.
Once the chain is launched all requests will be read and processed.
Important to mention that there are a beta pool in test stage. Foundation will launch the support pool as fast as possible. 


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: woffingshire on December 22, 2017, 09:09:03 PM
So the foundatio is already develping the apps before crowdfunding?


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: googol.star on December 22, 2017, 09:21:27 PM
I don't think Spain would go after you if you show your faces. Unless this becomes as big as Bitcoin, which chances are nil. But what are they going to charge you witch, creating a coin? It's Spain, not North Korea. (I assume it's Spain.)

There are people accused of rebellion without any kind of violence. Multitudinary concentrations of peacefully people are considered as the beginning of the crime.



Doesn't sound like a free society. When I think of Spain I think of a country like the US, or England. But it's nice to know. I'm sure it is in every other way.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: catonFoundation on December 23, 2017, 08:56:24 AM
I don't think Spain would go after you if you show your faces. Unless this becomes as big as Bitcoin, which chances are nil. But what are they going to charge you witch, creating a coin? It's Spain, not North Korea. (I assume it's Spain.)

There are people accused of rebellion without any kind of violence. Multitudinary concentrations of peacefully people are considered as the beginning of the crime.



Doesn't sound like a free society. When I think of Spain I think of a country like the US, or England. But it's nice to know. I'm sure it is in every other way.

And in certain way it isn't. If you are agree with central administration politics, there is no problem. The problem comes when a majority of a region wants to decide their own future as a society. Even the referendum wasn't a crime, spanish law doesn't forbid it. Rule of law is partially broken in Spain.


Title: Re: [CTN] Caton - Catalonian based cryptocurrency
Post by: srsandokan on January 06, 2018, 12:14:43 PM
Hi,
I'm really interested in this project, is there any updates on this? Website, telegram, slack?

Thanks