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Title: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: Transisto on July 24, 2013, 04:02:20 PM
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1319005&itc=eetimes_sitedefault&cid=NL_EET_Daily_20130724&elq=5dd0c3d76fa54432bf2d859518b968da&elqCampaignId=437

According to Adapteva "manager"
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The bitcoin algorithm doesn't map well onto the Epiphany archtiecture and there are already a lot of a few really fast bitcoin mining ASICs out there. However, Parallella should do well on the next coin mining craze called "litecoin". @solardiz at Openwall (the good guys behind John the Ripper password cracker) are looking into it.

Follow the development here : http://forums.parallella.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=276#p1634


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: erschiessen on July 24, 2013, 04:28:45 PM
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1319005&itc=eetimes_sitedefault&cid=NL_EET_Daily_20130724&elq=5dd0c3d76fa54432bf2d859518b968da&elqCampaignId=437

According to Adapteva "manager"
Quote
The bitcoin algorithm doesn't map well onto the Epiphany archtiecture and there are already a lot of a few really fast bitcoin mining ASICs out there. However, Parallella should do well on the next coin mining craze called "litecoin". @solardiz at Openwall (the good guys behind John the Ripper password cracker) are looking into it.

Follow the development here : http://forums.parallella.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=276#p1634
thank you for posting this!


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: Axion_Zen on July 24, 2013, 04:31:17 PM
not worth it if you read the posts..64 core too slow they would need to develop 1024 core to make it better than gpu


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: finlof on July 24, 2013, 05:06:26 PM
not worth it if you read the posts..64 core too slow they would need to develop 1024 core to make it better than gpu
depends on the power usage, price, and what it can actually hash whether it's better than a GPU or not.  ie - if you can get 5kh/s per core on a 64 core then that's 320kh/s at 5w usage.  that could possibly be worth $200.  time will tell.


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: xgtele on July 24, 2013, 05:37:45 PM
Interesting board http://shop.adapteva.com/collections/parallella/products/parallella-16
It can be pre-ordered today (October delivery)

Adapteva has a dual-core ARM A9 CPU and FPGA integrated in one Xilinx Zynq®-7000 series microchip

http://www.parallella.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/BoardGen1Annotated.jpg


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: TheSwede75 on July 24, 2013, 08:06:45 PM
I am thinking it might be even more interesting for Primecoin Mining..


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: iikun on July 24, 2013, 09:55:18 PM
interesting, but more of an evolution than a revolution like asics were.


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: Zalfrin on July 25, 2013, 02:08:57 AM
Not too bad of a price when the FPGA is $50+/each in bulk, but I doubt the $100 version of this board will be of much use to miners. It comes with the XC7Z010 device w/ 28k logic cells, versus the 150k logic cells in the big spartan 6's. I guess if you get the ARM core to do enough work and are selective about what you offload to hardware, it could be useful. I'd be more interested in the XC7Z020 variant w/ 85k logic cells. Of course those devices are more like $100+/each in bulk. ;)

Here's another board that uses these chips: http://www.zedboard.org/content/board-functions

EDIT: Heh, I didn't read very closely. I guess the real interesting part of the dev boards in the OP is this: http://www.adapteva.com/products/silicon-devices/

Sounds fun. :)


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: erk on July 25, 2013, 02:23:53 AM
A bit early I think for that one.


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: Gordon Bleu on July 25, 2013, 02:41:54 AM
I ordered one
and got a Tweet from

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Solar Designer
@solardiz
I guess you mean Litecoin and not scrypt per se. Ideally, ~5 kh/s on 16-core Epiphany, ~20 on 64-core.


So it seems useless for Litecoin , you would still need 500 Watts for 500kh/s,
but there's still a little hope on Google`s Summer Camp
http://www.openwall.com/lists/announce/2013/04/28/1 (http://www.openwall.com/lists/announce/2013/04/28/1)


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: papamoi on July 25, 2013, 03:20:53 AM
watching


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: spartan82 on July 25, 2013, 08:50:45 AM
Watching


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: altsay on July 25, 2013, 12:28:08 PM
Sounds promising.


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: crazyates on July 27, 2013, 03:19:07 AM
I heard about this months ago, and when I heard they were shipping, my first thought was also LTC. I'd be curious what it can do. They're only shipping the 16 core version now, but soon have the 64 core version soon.


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: teknohog on September 03, 2013, 03:40:47 PM
Not too bad of a price when the FPGA is $50+/each in bulk, but I doubt the $100 version of this board will be of much use to miners. It comes with the XC7Z010 device w/ 28k logic cells, versus the 150k logic cells in the big spartan 6's. I guess if you get the ARM core to do enough work and are selective about what you offload to hardware, it could be useful. I'd be more interested in the XC7Z020 variant w/ 85k logic cells. Of course those devices are more like $100+/each in bulk. ;)

Here's another board that uses these chips: http://www.zedboard.org/content/board-functions

EDIT: Heh, I didn't read very closely. I guess the real interesting part of the dev boards in the OP is this: http://www.adapteva.com/products/silicon-devices/

Sounds fun. :)

I recently ordered one with the XC7Z020, with no particular application in mind -- for example, it's a relatively cheap devkit for the FPGA only, considering alternatives like the Zedboard. There have been lots of $99 boards with just an ARM-based computer, basically beefed-up Raspis; this one is similar but with an FPGA and the Epiphany coprocessor.

I'm guessing the reason it has an FPGA in the first place is a cost-effective way to develop a suitable interconnect for the coprocessor, but in some ways I find the FPGA more interesting in itself ;)

As for mining on the FPGA, I hope nobody is seriously expecting any profit with these...


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: tarui on September 03, 2013, 03:51:40 PM
watching too


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: volosator on September 03, 2013, 04:10:47 PM
What is expected performance?


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: papamoi on September 03, 2013, 06:06:46 PM


so does anyone have anything mining on this?

if yes how?and what to expect?

thanks



Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: forum2005 on September 03, 2013, 06:20:44 PM
watching... and waiting my parallella  ::)


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: lordzav on December 17, 2013, 02:27:04 PM


Helllo. News ?

http://www.adapteva.com/epiphany-multicore-intellectual-property/ ... 256 Cores to 4k Cores ? :O When ? :P


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: superduh on December 17, 2013, 07:06:52 PM
shipping next week.
what is this thing again? like a raspberry pi but with a more powerful cpu?


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: turtle83 on December 17, 2013, 07:18:12 PM
shipping next week.
what is this thing again? like a raspberry pi but with a more powerful cpu?

its CPU is similar to the pi's... the difference is it has a co-processor thats really efficient at parallalizable things...

so... for certain tasks it would kick the pi's(or even your computer's) butt big time but programs need to be written specifically to take advantage of this.


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: miner2049 on March 13, 2014, 01:53:19 AM
Hi, I was wondering how would I configure cgminer or any miner to work on the parallella computer using ubuntu?

I've ordered a cluster of 4 and I'm awaiting shipping.  I think it will be an interesting parallel computer, even if it doesn't become useful as a script miner.

Thanks,
Miner2049


Title: Re: Litecoin mining on the "Now shipping" Adapteva's $100 Parallella Platform
Post by: CoinHoarder on March 13, 2014, 02:06:52 AM
You're going to have to interface memory with the parallella somehow to be able to mine Scrypt coins with this thing. That doesn't sound like an easy task...

Sounds like a lot of work for possibly very little hash rate. I can't see these things being more powerful than ASICs or GPUs.