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Title: locked self-moderated topics
Post by: hugeblack on December 20, 2017, 05:08:00 PM
I notice many scammers in Digital goods (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0), Invites & Accounts  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=234.0) and Computer hardware (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=75.0) use locked self-moderated topics as a way to Scam others.

My ideas:
1) unlock topics: they keep selling after locking it.
2) move topics to Archival (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=59.0) : topics become old stuffs.
3) ban from posting:  they break rule 13 & 21" reported many times, Maybe Moderators do not accept pictures as proof ".

any other ideas?

Examples:

1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2068813.msg20655314#msg20655314),2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1991544.msg19830317#msg19830317),3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2202092.msg22153581#msg22153581),4 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2605561.msg26514539#msg26514539),5 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2542690.msg25932422#msg25932422),6 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1992410.msg19838938#msg19838938),7 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2573054.msg26212611#msg26212611),8 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2570310.msg26179914#msg26179914),9 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2570325.msg26179985#msg26179985)


Title: Re: locked self-moderated topics
Post by: SFR10 on December 21, 2017, 03:14:05 PM
I notice many scammers in Digital goods (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0), Invites & Accounts  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=234.0) and Computer hardware (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=75.0) use locked self-moderated topics as a way to Scam others.
19. Possible (or real) scams and Trust ratings are not moderated (to prevent moderation abuse).

My ideas:
1) unlock topics: they keep selling after locking it.
2) move topics to Archival (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=59.0) : topics become old stuffs.
3) ban from posting:  they break rule 13 & 21" reported many times, Maybe Moderators do not accept pictures as proof ".

any other ideas?
1 and 2. (won't happen).
3. Pictures can be manipulated (by Photoshop and etc... and some might abuse it), so you have to archive those posts instead (use this website: http://archive.is/) and moderators handle it accordingly (have reported a few similar cases recently).


Title: Re: locked self-moderated topics
Post by: LoyceV on December 22, 2017, 11:21:45 AM
Just report them on anything they do wrong:

Examples:

1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2068813.msg20655314#msg20655314), 2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1991544.msg19830317#msg19830317), 6 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1992410.msg19838938#msg19838938)
I just reported all three: This guys doesn't delete his old bumps, and breaks forum rules with that. He does this in many topics.

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3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2202092.msg22153581#msg22153581)
Reported: This guy uses "Thank you for the vouch" as bump, and doesn't delete his old bumps. He posts the same many times.

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7 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2573054.msg26212611#msg26212611)
Reported: This guy bumps within 24 hours and doesn't delete old bumps.


My suggestion: locked topics should be grayed out, just like moved topics:
https://s14.postimg.org/r9gbjgdgx/example.gif
This makes them unattractive as sales topic, and I think it can easily be implement on the forum.


Title: Re: locked self-moderated topics
Post by: hilariousetc on December 23, 2017, 10:46:43 AM
Yeah, scammers are abusing the self-mod and lock topic features sadly. It might be best restricting who can self-mod threads or in what boards this can be done. As for locked topics, maybe we should consider that once somebody locks a topic in the marketplace it cannot be unlocked by anyone other than staff. With that being said, these two behaviours are usually huge red flags of scammers though so it has positives and negatives.


3) ban from posting:  they break rule 13 & 21" reported many times, Maybe Moderators do not accept pictures as proof ".



This isn't true. A screenshot of their rule breaking is the perfect way to prove such. I usually permaban them if there's solid evidence they're evading the bump rule as well.