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Title: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: myself on July 05, 2011, 07:36:37 PM
now that all the damn pools get  DDoS what about experimenting whit this ? I2P is faster that TOR afaik, does anyone want to make a test for this ??


Title: Re: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: Boing7898 on July 05, 2011, 08:14:05 PM
Switch to smaller pools and the problem is solved.


Title: Re: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: geek-trader on July 05, 2011, 08:44:56 PM
Switch to smaller pools and the problem is solved.
more, smaller pools = more robust bitcoin


Title: Re: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: Caesium on July 05, 2011, 08:47:18 PM
Exactly why I just started one up - if anyone apart from my friends would chuffin' use it - hint :p
Thread in this forum if you're interested, I won't spam it.


Title: Re: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: Graet on July 05, 2011, 09:47:14 PM
yer i started a pool a month ago, cracked Top 10 two days ago :)


Title: Re: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: CubedRoot on July 06, 2011, 12:24:43 AM
More smaller pools are the answer to getting rid of DDoS.
A friend of mine and I have started one ourselves.
Heres my shameless plug for it:
http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26370.0

If anyone finds that offensive or out of place, let me know, and I will remove this post.

Although, I will discuss I2P with my partner for our pool.


Title: Re: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: AnnihilaT on July 06, 2011, 12:34:15 AM
hehe... since everyone is mentioning their new small pools..... see sig :)

first 25 users to join me get 0% fees for life.


Title: Re: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: CubedRoot on July 06, 2011, 12:43:23 AM
I like to see all these small pools popping up. The more smaller pools there are, the more secure the currency is.  Im sure we all remember the Deepbit scare of 2011 right?  hahaha.


Title: Re: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: 1bitc0inplz on July 06, 2011, 12:47:10 AM
I like to see all these small pools popping up. The more smaller pools there are, the more secure the currency is.  Im sure we all remember the Deepbit scare of 2011 right?  hahaha.

Thanks, us small pool operators appreciate the kind words.  :)


Title: Re: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: V2-V3 on July 06, 2011, 02:12:42 AM
Plug smaller mining pool as alternative solution: http://bitclockers.com/


Title: Re: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: ZombieDeity on July 06, 2011, 03:35:44 AM
yer i started a pool a month ago, cracked Top 10 two days ago :)


Congrats... but personally, I want the pool I mine with to stay out of the Top 10 and out of all the pool lists that come built into mining software.  It's like a target on their back.  Pool hopping botnet operators point their swarms at all these pop-pools.  When they get banned, they throw a fit and DDoS everyone.


Title: Re: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: 1bitc0inplz on July 06, 2011, 03:49:40 AM
yer i started a pool a month ago, cracked Top 10 two days ago :)


Congrats... but personally, I want the pool I mine with to stay out of the Top 10 and out of all the pool lists that come built into mining software.  It's like a target on their back.  Pool hopping botnet operators point their swarms at all these pop-pools.  When they get banned, they throw a fit and DDoS everyone.

Then you'd like what I have to offer  ;)


Title: Re: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: ZombieDeity on July 06, 2011, 04:05:39 AM

Then you'd like what I have to offer  ;)

I might.  The front page of your site should describe what systems you use (LP?, PPS/Prop./Score?, fees?, features, stats, security, etc.).  I tend to prefer fee-free pools (to which I donate about 0.5% anyway).  LP is a must, and so is very transparent reporting on individual and pool stats.  Whatcha got?   :)


Title: Re: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: 1bitc0inplz on July 06, 2011, 04:15:25 AM

Then you'd like what I have to offer  ;)

I might.  The front page of your site should describe what systems you use (LP?, PPS/Prop./Score?, fees?, features, stats, security, etc.).  I tend to prefer fee-free pools (to which I donate about 0.5% anyway).  LP is a must, and so is very transparent reporting on individual and pool stats.  Whatcha got?   :)

Sorry, our homepage is a little lacking on that info. The forum link in my signature will explain all the details you're looking for. However, the short of it is:

We are fee free, but "tips" are welcome  :)
We have LP, SSL, a JSON-API
And, best of all, we have the lowest stale rate of any other pool  :D

We use a proportional payout system.

Reporting is an area we can still do some work in, but our leaderboard for the current round should allow you to see where all the shares for a round are going. If you see something we're lacking do let me know, we're always looking for areas to improve upon.


Title: Re: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: ZombieDeity on July 06, 2011, 04:21:55 AM

Sorry, our homepage is a little lacking on that info. The forum link in my signature will explain all the details you're looking for. However, the short of it is:

We are fee free, but "tips" are welcome  :)
We have LP, SSL, a JSON-API
And, best of all, we have the lowest stale rate of any other pool  :D

We use a proportional payout system.

Reporting is an area we can still do some work in, but our leaderboard for the current round should allow you to see where all the shares for a round are going. If you see something we're lacking do let me know, we're always looking for areas to improve upon.

Cool, thanks for the info.  I'll definitely consider that when I get tired of my current pool.  Tends to happen to me every couple of days.  ;)


Title: Re: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: casascius on July 06, 2011, 04:23:05 AM
Was thinking.... someone who gets more than 50% of the hashing power doesn't just gain the theoretical ability to double spend.

They end up with the practical ability to unfairly get 100% of the mining rewards and shut all other miners and pools out, simply by ignoring and replacing any block they didn't create.  In other words, monopolizing the block chain.  They can go straight from 51% to 100% just by changing one line of code.  Because everyone else's mining essentially disappears like it's not happening, someone with >50% who is able to sustain that for weeks can also singlehandedly lower the mining difficulty as well, for their own benefit, so the mining difficulty is based strictly on their production.


Title: Re: DDoS tanking pool ? what about runing them over I2P?
Post by: ZombieDeity on July 06, 2011, 04:31:29 AM
Was thinking.... someone who gets more than 50% of the hashing power doesn't just gain the theoretical ability to double spend.

They end up with the practical ability to unfairly get 100% of the mining rewards and shut all other miners and pools out, simply by ignoring and replacing any block they didn't create.  In other words, monopolizing the block chain.  They can go straight from 51% to 100% just by changing one line of code.  Because everyone else's mining essentially disappears like it's not happening, someone with >50% who is able to sustain that for weeks can also singlehandedly lower the mining difficulty as well, for their own benefit, so the mining difficulty is based strictly on their production.

Yep.