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Title: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: Red Fish on December 22, 2017, 11:13:51 AM
As we all know Bitcoin have very high price, therefore in small payments Bitcoin will be replaced with some crypto, but which one ? If we look in all cryptos - https://coinmarketcap.com/, it is very hard to say, which crypto will be most popular in next three to five years. May be ETH or Ripple ?   


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: cryptomema on December 22, 2017, 11:24:25 AM
As we all know Bitcoin have very high price, therefore in small payments Bitcoin will be replaced with some crypto, but which one ? If we look in all cryptos - https://coinmarketcap.com/, it is very hard to say, which crypto will be most popular in next three to five years. May be ETH or Ripple ?   
LTC is a good candidate the coin is matured,XRP is to be considered too.Theres a lot of good coins out there all you need to do is to sort which is which .


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: Davehad on December 22, 2017, 11:32:31 AM
ETH - After Caspar and Plasma will have much quicker and, crucially, cheaper transactions.  So for me this.  People are so used to not having to work in decimal places with FIAT currency that I think this is a crucial thing - people don't like having to think about or work out to many decimal places.  So maybe a coin will come along where you can only deal in say 1 decimal place - or ideally no decimal places.. Is there anything out there like that at the moment - or anything coming up in the near future?


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: Ailmand on December 22, 2017, 11:37:33 AM
As we all know Bitcoin have very high price, therefore in small payments Bitcoin will be replaced with some crypto, but which one ? If we look in all cryptos - https://coinmarketcap.com/, it is very hard to say, which crypto will be most popular in next three to five years. May be ETH or Ripple ?   

I think the options you gave can be good candidates for that purpose. I may also add Waves because amongst all the altcoins across the market, them three are the reliable and strong ones that have proven themselves even despite the negative effects the bitcoin surge has brought about to most altcoins in the crypto market. I think the main indicator on which one would emerge as the best candidate would be which altcoin would have the bigger chunk of improvement in terms of price point and marketability. Just last week, Waves has increased in value and many suspect that it's because the developers are trying to combat the negative effects of the recent bitcoin surge by pumping its value. On the one hand, it's a good sign that Ripple and Eth has maintained a good price point despite what's happening.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: gidaahmad on December 22, 2017, 11:41:23 AM
Yes, maybe Monetha (MTH) will be suitable if used as a means of payment with a small nominal. Because according to the project, MTH want to be the next paypal, but for the world Crypto. And their ICO success in just 18 minutes (95000 ETH collected).


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: 1l1l11ll1l on December 22, 2017, 11:43:32 AM
As we all know Bitcoin have very high price, therefore in small payments Bitcoin will be replaced with some crypto, but which one ? If we look in all cryptos - https://coinmarketcap.com/, it is very hard to say, which crypto will be most popular in next three to five years. May be ETH or Ripple ?   

Ripple and ETH are very popular and have very good developments, but I do not think they can compete with bitcoin, there are some aspects they have to go through to replace bitcoin


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: wayaneka on December 22, 2017, 11:47:58 AM
ETH and Ripple is good option. But In my opinion can be IOTA because this coin have no fee transaction so is good for micro payments. But any other potential coin that good for small payment is like Digibyte.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: CryptoTamer on December 22, 2017, 12:11:22 PM
As we all know Bitcoin have very high price, therefore in small payments Bitcoin will be replaced with some crypto, but which one ? If we look in all cryptos - https://coinmarketcap.com/, it is very hard to say, which crypto will be most popular in next three to five years. May be ETH or Ripple ?   

Ripple and ETH are very popular and have very good developments, but I do not think they can compete with bitcoin, there are some aspects they have to go through to replace bitcoin
Personally I prefer to use altcoin for small payments and I think ETH or XRP have been competing with Bitcoin even they could be the best choice for small payment


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: unihamburg on December 22, 2017, 12:13:07 PM
I think it will be ETH.

But if we consider Ripple for possible candidate, then also have to take Stellar(XLM) into account, since Stellar is the fixed and optimized Version of Ripple.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: Tekunda on December 22, 2017, 12:18:51 PM
I put my bet on Stellar Lumens. 1 billion simultaneous transactions per second, a fraction of a cent per transaction.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: CryptoKranthi on December 22, 2017, 12:39:05 PM
ETN in my opion is good for low fee transactions as it only costs around 0.2-2 ETN per transaction


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: drunkcoin on December 22, 2017, 12:42:13 PM
I think it would be Ripple. Ethereum is #2 crypto after Bitcoin, so it's also more like an asset and like a platform for other services. Ripple is supported by banks, costs about a buck and is stable enough to be payment method.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: MungoKeuls on December 22, 2017, 12:55:47 PM
Personally I think that an everyday  usable crypto/altcoin needs to meet some or even all of these criteria .  1. Widely distributed across the globe - if its in the hands of less than 10 000 or even 100 000 people it will never really be used widely.   2. Fast - if blockchain refresh takes more than a minute its almost unuseable - what shopowner is going to ask a customer to wait for 10 minutes while transaction is verified.       3. Very large distribution number and also FIXED number  - Has to be billions and not millions with no option to suddenly issue next billion - otherwise people will have to deal with buying a cup of coffee costing 0,0000234 of a coin - this is just not feasible as ppl need to equate values in understandable figures not in subdecimals.   4. useability -  it needs to be useable with barcode or even swipe card so can be accepted in more places. So the alt coin should have minimum webwallets, pc/mac wallets, merchant API's, even swipe cards/NFC's so the user isn't limited    5. Acceptability - If less than say 10 000 shops/retailers/restaurants  are not accepting then its also not really usable - this takes time so the number of places accepting has to be on clear transparent visible growth path and info where to use the coin should be readily available and updated daily - there should also be clear program in place by the organization to grow this number with clear targets etc.     6. Stability -  the price need to be relatively stable.....it can be with steady growth trend but not a zigzag as this causes something to cost x today and next day its 3x or x/3. ppl don't like that.    7. So blockchain really decentralised, highly transparent and ideally independent - really a peoples money .... so nobody can just increase the number suddenly and value crashes.    

So if You are looking at the coinmarketcap list then maybe only a handful of currencies fullfill some or any of the above criteria. Actually I doubt any do right now. So even Ether at 690$ may already be too expensive so a 5$ cup of coffee would cost 0,007 ether - its confusing.  

Also I guess the actual idea of an alternate currency is being lost due to number of ICO's - most people see altcoins just as funding mechanism and are not really interested to see them practically used to buy stuff.  I personally am a little saddened by this as I still believe we need an alternative to Fiat's.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: cryptofunn on December 22, 2017, 01:06:06 PM
Now there are many projects that can boast of the speed of transactions and a low commission in comparison with bitcoin. For example, dash, vtc, waves. But will they become a payment currency on a global scale? It seems to me closer to this dash


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: penig on December 22, 2017, 01:11:43 PM
It wont be Ripple, to many people ideologically dislike it because its favored by banks.  I think ETH is too focused on smart contracts and not having a simple native wallet (MEW works fine but browser doesn't cut it for many uses).  Many of the other suggestions are platforms with similar issues (trying to do more than just payments, under-developed tools).  It should be Litecoin, since thats its purpose and doesn't need anyone to be convinced?  Steam has taken it on, so i think the switch is already in motion.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: imjustp on December 22, 2017, 01:15:16 PM
Possibly one which has not been fully released yet? As someone said earlier, people will not adopt a currency with 8 decimal places. Personally I think the currency to be majorly adopted will be one with no more than two decimal places. It will be easiest for the average joe to work with.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: pushkarmore on December 22, 2017, 01:17:31 PM
As we all know Bitcoin have very high price, therefore in small payments Bitcoin will be replaced with some crypto, but which one ? If we look in all cryptos - https://coinmarketcap.com/, it is very hard to say, which crypto will be most popular in next three to five years. May be ETH or Ripple ?   

Bitcoin is king of the crypto market and therefore if you want to replace it with some other crypto coins then go to some coins which has good value for the current and future crypto market cycle. You can move to Ethereum also as it is good and connected to all the major ICO's, but i will also tell you that you can go and try Ripple, Neocoin, Dash which are emerging as a good option.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: Vlad2Vlad on December 22, 2017, 02:07:27 PM

Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin and can do transactions for pennies.

Add a sidechain for sub 1 penny txs and you’re set.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: bambazamba on December 22, 2017, 03:06:02 PM
Bitcoin is really struggling due to the high price now . The other altcpins might replace it for small payments .That is just because they have so much potential right now and the block size is also relatively larger than bitcoin . They might replace it , if the changes are not made for bitcoin's coinbase very soon .
Many coins such as ETH , Ripple , Iota , Electroneum have a chance to attain this thing.   


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: xaviervilla on December 22, 2017, 04:22:32 PM
If you ask me, litecone is a pretty great candidate since it is fast, reliable and really cheap in terms of transaction fees.  It really would be a great choice. Since it is still pretty cheap and not a pain in the pocket to buy. Plus it has great potential to increase in price for the next few months or years. I even invested and converted some of my btc into litecoin. But still, i am not ready to ket go of my bitcoins. So.. i think i can say i have invested enough already on litecoin.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: lolchina on December 22, 2017, 04:52:22 PM
Digibyte xvg smartcash there are many coins that can do that even a meme coin aka doge.Its more about what coin will be accpeted as a small and fast payment method and so far ltc is the favorite as its being pushed in all ways and sides,charlie lee hosting on cnbc and steam accepting litecoin


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: iram1011 on December 22, 2017, 04:55:50 PM
I think in top 10 coins according to mcap, XRP is best to be used as currency. It has massive supply which Ripple releases occasionally to dump the price. Thus, a bringing in a bit of inflation and thus, it best suits as a currency. Added to that transaction fees is quite low and tx speed is fast. But it won't replace Bitcoin as currency as Bitcoin is hardly being used as currency because of its in built deflation, it is more a store of value.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: CryptoRama on December 22, 2017, 04:58:48 PM
the one who has better offers, fees, and other ideas and stuff that you can do with them...


but for now I bet on Ethereum, because of theirs tokens and other stuff that you can put/have on their blockchain, the downside is that ETH has consuption of the fee that is payed for transaction even tho it doesn't go trough... But even better than ETH is DGB, for now DGB is cheapest way to transfer even trough online exchanges, but you should consider for current time, in the future if DGB will increase in value maybe they'll have problems too...

ripple it's just pump and dump money like bitcoincash... But mainly ripple is used by some banks for eazy buying bitcoins? Don't know much sorry... I only know that ripple is next in pump n dump... like bitcoincash..


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: hajimasan on December 23, 2017, 06:27:15 AM
As we all know Bitcoin have very high price, therefore in small payments Bitcoin will be replaced with some crypto, but which one ? If we look in all cryptos - https://coinmarketcap.com/, it is very hard to say, which crypto will be most popular in next three to five years. May be ETH or Ripple ?   
Since there are lots of coins available that are much faster than any another slow coin which have better technology .
Here my first support for Digibyte coin , this is coin is really much faster ( Because I seen that it get confirmed in 3 minutes during transfer from one exchange to another exchange site ) .
After Digibyte my suggestion for better coin to make smaller payment is itself bitcoin cash, bitcoin gold , bitcoin diamond , here I am saying to forked coin Because I know that these are not much famouse coin Because these are no having simple Wallet like bitcoin have , so these are not in much use but in the incoming time people will use these coins much .
Next coin that I think is better for small transaction is Etherium and dash coin.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: vv181 on December 23, 2017, 06:42:56 AM
I think Ripple could have a potential to replace micro-transaction. The fact is a transaction on Ripple is extremely fast and cheap, the only thing it takes longer is if you send it from an exchange. Bitcoin is unsustainable for micro-transactions, but it doesn't mean Bitcoin cash is the great solution, there are many cryptocurrencies that can handle micro-transaction very good like Ripple.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: smartcashvietnam on December 23, 2017, 10:36:40 AM
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Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: Nukleo on December 23, 2017, 11:07:35 AM
I think that litecone is a worthy replacement for bitcoins, a stable and reliable coin.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: slaman29 on December 23, 2017, 11:10:31 AM
I don't know about Ripple, but maybe ETH. In my own experience, people already use LTC and Doge a lot for small payments - fast confirmation times as always and easy to use wallets, in fact you can even send 0 fees for them and they still go through. Even with online wallet fees, they're still very small. 1 or 2 Doge maybe? And something like 0.001 LTC (30 cents and only because LTC's gone up)?

I use waves also and I can see it becoming another solution, but problem is you don't see Ripple or Waves on many sites.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: ldah94 on December 23, 2017, 12:52:13 PM
Eth and ripple are coins that have a great project behind but they have a long way to go compared to bitcoin. if it is true that currently btc presents problems to carry out small transactions but maybe it is a problem that has a solution with its new update. at the moment it is not bad option either of the two alts have had big increases thanks to their new news.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: hroschi on December 23, 2017, 12:57:09 PM
I think ETH has more chances of replacing BTC for those situations, unless BTC fees will be reduced.


Title: Re: Which Crypto Will Replace Bitcoin In Small Payments ? ETH, Ripple ?
Post by: Tekunda on December 23, 2017, 08:08:08 PM
Personally I think that an everyday  usable crypto/altcoin needs to meet some or even all of these criteria .  1. Widely distributed across the globe - if its in the hands of less than 10 000 or even 100 000 people it will never really be used widely.   2. Fast - if blockchain refresh takes more than a minute its almost unuseable - what shopowner is going to ask a customer to wait for 10 minutes while transaction is verified.       3. Very large distribution number and also FIXED number  - Has to be billions and not millions with no option to suddenly issue next billion - otherwise people will have to deal with buying a cup of coffee costing 0,0000234 of a coin - this is just not feasible as ppl need to equate values in understandable figures not in subdecimals.   4. useability -  it needs to be useable with barcode or even swipe card so can be accepted in more places. So the alt coin should have minimum webwallets, pc/mac wallets, merchant API's, even swipe cards/NFC's so the user isn't limited    5. Acceptability - If less than say 10 000 shops/retailers/restaurants  are not accepting then its also not really usable - this takes time so the number of places accepting has to be on clear transparent visible growth path and info where to use the coin should be readily available and updated daily - there should also be clear program in place by the organization to grow this number with clear targets etc.     6. Stability -  the price need to be relatively stable.....it can be with steady growth trend but not a zigzag as this causes something to cost x today and next day its 3x or x/3. ppl don't like that.    7. So blockchain really decentralised, highly transparent and ideally independent - really a peoples money .... so nobody can just increase the number suddenly and value crashes.    

So if You are looking at the coinmarketcap list then maybe only a handful of currencies fullfill some or any of the above criteria. Actually I doubt any do right now. So even Ether at 690$ may already be too expensive so a 5$ cup of coffee would cost 0,007 ether - its confusing.  

Also I guess the actual idea of an alternate currency is being lost due to number of ICO's - most people see altcoins just as funding mechanism and are not really interested to see them practically used to buy stuff.  I personally am a little saddened by this as I still believe we need an alternative to Fiat's.

Maybe I don't get how Stellar Lumens will eventually work, but if you want to pay $2.50 for a cup of coffee, you use their network and the dollar amount is transfered from your Stellar wallet within a second or so. If you want to send $20 to alibaba in China in order to pay for your new electronic toy, the money will be instantly converted into the local currency and the recipient gets his $20 worth in Chinese currency.
All this within a few seconds for less than one cent. This sounds like the perfect payment method, if you ask me.