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Title: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: gravemind2401 on July 06, 2011, 02:10:59 PM Ok, heres my information:
GUI Miner: 2011-06-14 BitCoin: 0.3.21 OS: Windows 7 64-bit Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS no matter what i try, i cannot get mining to work. (i always get the "connection problems" in GUIMiner) i tried bitcoin 0.3.23 but it didnt work, i read solo mining only works on 0.3.21 and less so i downgraded, but to no avail. i also downgraded GUI Miner to the second newest version and still nothing. i followed all the guides on solo mining using GUI Miner. i set the path, the username, the password, ran bitcoin as server etc. i portforwarded my router to forward port 8332 and 8333 to my local address. after giving up i decided to try pool mining. i registered on slush's server and went through all that, and put in my details in and clicked start mining. it tells me im getting around 3 MH/s, but nothing in the accepted column (and on the website it says ive processed 0 blocks, no matter how long i leave it going for) it also says "connection problems" occasionally instead of the speed. in bitcoin i have "generate coins" enabled (but nothing seems to happen) and all it does is download blocks (i read somewhere that it has to download "all" blocks for solo mining, how many is "all"?) can anyone help me? Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: gochk on July 06, 2011, 04:05:10 PM I'm not an expert; but, let me try ...
Bitcoin 0.3.21 is used to download blocks. Someone can send you some bitcoins, and it'll be in a certain block, you'll have to download to that block to receive the bitcoin. You can find the current block number at http://blockexplorer.com/q/getblockcount (currently at 135047). For a test run of how this works, you can try to get some free bitcoins (courtesy of the community) at http://freebitcoins.appspot.com/ As for mining, when you mine in pools, you are getting shares of a block. Given the current difficulty rate (and it keeps increasing), the block is getting harder to solve. So naturally, it's not a big surprise if you haven't solved a block. 3 MH/s is very little and I would advise you to not even waste your electricity (the return is just not profitable enough to cover the cost of your electricity). You can calculate it at http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator.php And Nvidia video cards aren't the best choices for mining. If you look at https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison you'll see ATI cards are mining at 300-400 MH/s; I am running 1 6970 overclock (which gets me about 360 MH / s) card and I'm getting probably ~ 0.05 btc / night if I just run them at night (if I remember correctly). So you see ... 3 MH/s is really nothing. I have never solo mine; but considering your speed, you probably shouldn't even bothered with that. Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: Rob P. on July 06, 2011, 04:19:27 PM 1) Are you mining to a pool? If so, you don't need Bitcoin installed at all.
2) If you're mining with nVidia, you shouldn't bother. You'll spend more in electricity than you can generate. Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: gravemind2401 on July 07, 2011, 12:27:14 AM I just looked up the tables and my graphics card is bad for mining like you said, maybe my CPU would be better if I could get it to mine at all (more connection problems)
it's an AMD sempron @ 3GHz if only I knew about bitcoin before I bought my card, then I could've got a better one but now u have no money left :/ Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: Oldminer on July 07, 2011, 12:39:38 AM Err I dont think you can mine with that card
Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: gravemind2401 on July 07, 2011, 01:44:22 AM i can mine with it, its just very slow and inefficient. anyways, something weird happened. i changed the flags and turned on the CPU affinity, and the speed shot up to 3GHash/s then slowed down to 996MHash/s... wtf?
even still, i get nothing in the "accepted" and nothing shows up in the pool website. and after a while the mining speed just stays on one number and doesnt change Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: Rob P. on July 07, 2011, 01:13:49 PM i can mine with it, its just very slow and inefficient. anyways, something weird happened. i changed the flags and turned on the CPU affinity, and the speed shot up to 3GHash/s then slowed down to 996MHash/s... wtf? even still, i get nothing in the "accepted" and nothing shows up in the pool website. and after a while the mining speed just stays on one number and doesnt change You cannot CPU mine, especially with a Sempron. CPU mining is worse than mining with nVidia, neither should be done by sane individuals. Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: gravemind2401 on July 08, 2011, 03:57:07 AM well my CPU can mine, it just only goes at 1.4MHash/s haha
Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: Rob P. on July 08, 2011, 01:17:09 PM well my CPU can mine, it just only goes at 1.4MHash/s haha Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD. Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: ANSYSiC on July 08, 2011, 01:45:25 PM you need about 200 MH/s to make it profitable.
instead of paying for electricity you better buy bitcoins with that money! Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: gravemind2401 on July 08, 2011, 02:14:36 PM well if anyone is generous enough to lend me $165 worth of bitcoins (or paypal), i can buy a card that will work very well for mining and pay you back when i generate the coins back. any takers? (lol you can tell im desperate)
Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: Meisterschürfer on July 09, 2011, 01:00:28 PM Guys, i have the same problem - my system:
AMD 955 BE Vista 64 up 2 date ATI 6950 i tried 3 different versions of gui miner and tried to connect to a pool, always the cant connect error. And GUI miner doesnt find my ati, only cayman and my cpu. I already loaded the latest ATI driver, and that ati stream was also included... I dont know what to do... Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: ANSYSiC on July 11, 2011, 07:44:53 PM cayman IS your ati card
codename of the chip Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: Meisterschürfer on July 12, 2011, 10:32:33 AM cayman IS your ati card codename of the chip Thank you very much, i got it running :-) Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: gravemind2401 on July 13, 2011, 12:38:12 PM anyone care to donate 1 single bitcoin to my mtgox account? i figured seeing as my hardware sucks i could try to trade and save up for a better one. i would add funds via paypal but it only has $10 and mt gox doesnt support paypal :/
my mt gox address is 14i2QbNoWXtPXskos57EfjXQqsdRTQnSxS if anyone is generous enough Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: MarkG on July 13, 2011, 02:56:13 PM anyone care to donate 1 single bitcoin to my mtgox account? i figured seeing as my hardware sucks i could try to trade and save up for a better one. i would add funds via paypal but it only has $10 and mt gox doesnt support paypal :/ my mt gox address is 14i2QbNoWXtPXskos57EfjXQqsdRTQnSxS if anyone is generous enough Same here, I'm just running 45 Mh/s... CPU is fine, it's just my video card that s*cks... Address is 1N2dpzV4VEfP25gBJaE5w7oFbMDZfcrgLp Thanks to all! Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: gravemind2401 on July 14, 2011, 02:33:26 AM 45MH/s with just a CPU? seriously? anyways, i could kill for 45MH/s. with 45MH/s you could probably at least generate a coin in a few days maybe a week or two. would you like to swap it for my 3MH/s? id be happy to take it off your hands any time
Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: tysat on July 14, 2011, 03:48:19 AM 45MH/s with just a CPU? seriously? anyways, i could kill for 45MH/s. with 45MH/s you could probably at least generate a coin in a few days maybe a week or two. would you like to swap it for my 3MH/s? id be happy to take it off your hands any time http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator.php According to that, it's over a month to generate one coin using 45MH/s at the current difficulty. Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: gravemind2401 on July 14, 2011, 04:49:23 AM oh god help me.... its going to take over a year for me to get one single coin :'(
donations? anyone? im desperate :( i only need 1 coin so i can start trading; 14i2QbNoWXtPXskos57EfjXQqsdRTQnSxS Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: tysat on July 14, 2011, 05:08:47 AM oh god help me.... its going to take over a year for me to get one single coin :'( donations? anyone? im desperate :( i only need 1 coin so i can start trading; 14i2QbNoWXtPXskos57EfjXQqsdRTQnSxS Trading what in particular? It'd be easier for you to buy 1 coin off of an exchange. Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: Rob P. on July 14, 2011, 01:16:36 PM oh god help me.... its going to take over a year for me to get one single coin :'( donations? anyone? im desperate :( i only need 1 coin so i can start trading; 14i2QbNoWXtPXskos57EfjXQqsdRTQnSxS Exactly why are you "desperate" to get a Bitcoin? Everyone who has coins did something to get them. Kind of like everyone who has money, did something to get it (even if you were just born into it). Your options are: 1) Wait a month and continue mining. While it may take a month to generate a full coin, by working in a pool you'll get fractional coins continuously, and you will be able to send those fractional coins to see how the network works. 2) Take actual money and purchase coins. 3) Do something to earn coins. I've done consulting for two different folks here on the boards and been paid 14 BTC for that work. Begging has a very low success rate. Lower even than CPU mining. Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: bigfish420 on July 14, 2011, 01:23:48 PM hey, im a fuckin newbie. remember that.
is there any point to mine (slush's pool), when im doin it at speed of 500 khash/s ? Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: shane_kerr on July 14, 2011, 07:25:46 PM With 500 KH/s you will get a very, very small number of bitcoins in a pool. It will take you probably 3 weeks to get 0.01 BTC. And the electricity will almost certainly cost more than you get out of it. OTOH, if you are using green energy then by all means, please go for it. :) Or more seriously, you can measure the difference in wattage and see how much energy mining actually costs.
Otherwise... just by Bitcoin, right? Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: HonestAbe on July 14, 2011, 09:31:08 PM not worth it. mining is not a rationale approach to building btc.
Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: gravemind2401 on July 15, 2011, 01:48:01 AM Trading what in particular? trading bitcoins on Mt.Gox Your options are: 1) Wait a month and continue mining. While it may take a month to generate a full coin, by working in a pool you'll get fractional coins continuously, and you will be able to send those fractional coins to see how the network works. 2) Take actual money and purchase coins. 3) Do something to earn coins. I've done consulting for two different folks here on the boards and been paid 14 BTC for that work. 1: A Month wont get me anywhere near a full coin, it will take 16 months for me to get a full coin. 2: Ive tried that, but Mt.Gox wont accept paypal, and being in Australia I don't have any of the other payment methods available 3: I have no useful abilities that I can offer over the internet. (not at this point in time, anyway) Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: tysat on July 15, 2011, 01:58:57 AM Trading what in particular? trading bitcoins on Mt.Gox Your options are: 1) Wait a month and continue mining. While it may take a month to generate a full coin, by working in a pool you'll get fractional coins continuously, and you will be able to send those fractional coins to see how the network works. 2) Take actual money and purchase coins. 3) Do something to earn coins. I've done consulting for two different folks here on the boards and been paid 14 BTC for that work. 1: A Month wont get me anywhere near a full coin, it will take 16 months for me to get a full coin. 2: Ive tried that, but Mt.Gox wont accept paypal, and being in Australia I don't have any of the other payment methods available 3: I have no useful abilities that I can offer over the internet. (not at this point in time, anyway) Code: Technocash conditions have changed, please read carefully (fee AU$2.00 => 5% of amount, and new bank account number) You should read through Mt Gox first.... you can make deposits. Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: gravemind2401 on July 15, 2011, 02:40:38 AM Code: Technocash conditions have changed, please read carefully (fee AU$2.00 => 5% of amount, and new bank account number) You should read through Mt Gox first.... you can make deposits. Yes I did read that, actually, but I don't have a debit account or anything like that. I have paypal, and ONLY paypal :/ Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: tysat on July 15, 2011, 02:43:58 AM Yes I did read that, actually, but I don't have a debit account or anything like that. I have paypal, and ONLY paypal :/ So how do you get money to Paypal then? I don't see how anyone could have no bank account at all. Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: gravemind2401 on July 15, 2011, 02:50:04 AM thats exactly my problem. i have no money, apart from the $13.38 in my paypal, and about $20 in cash. this is why i was so desperate to try bitcoin mining/trading, but seeing as my card sucks and i dont have the money to buy a new one, trading is the only option (if i can get funds into the account somehow)
Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: tysat on July 15, 2011, 02:51:44 AM thats exactly my problem. i have no money, apart from the $13.38 in my paypal, and about $20 in cash. this is why i was so desperate to try bitcoin mining/trading, but seeing as my card sucks and i dont have the money to buy a new one, trading is the only option (if i can get funds into the account somehow) Trading isn't going to net you much money at all, at best a few % per trade. Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: gravemind2401 on July 15, 2011, 02:58:07 AM yea it builds up over time, and its better than nothing. plus with the current rate being 1BTC = ~$13 a few percent isnt that bad, itll build up. and if your trading a number of coins at a time then its better still.
Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: Rob P. on July 15, 2011, 12:37:01 PM 2: Ive tried that, but Mt.Gox wont accept paypal, and being in Australia I don't have any of the other payment methods available Dwolla takes AUD, Mt. Gox can be funded with Dwolla. Problem solved. 3: I have no useful abilities that I can offer over the internet. (not at this point in time, anyway) Then get some. Learn HTML, CSS, XML, XSS. There are tons of resources online to do so. Then offer to code a site for someone, or work on HTML coding. Saying, "I have no useful abilities" is just an excuse. Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: echo2 on July 15, 2011, 12:53:58 PM no one is gonna give u $14
Title: Re: Cannot get mining to work (at all) help? Post by: gravemind2401 on July 16, 2011, 02:44:41 AM Dwolla takes AUD, Mt. Gox can be funded with Dwolla. Problem solved. i said previously that i dont have any of the payment methods available, that includes dwollaThen get some. Learn HTML, CSS, XML, XSS. There are tons of resources online to do so. Then offer to code a site for someone, or work on HTML coding. Saying, "I have no useful abilities" is just an excuse. i didnt say i have no useful abilities at all, i said i had none which i can offer over the internet. its not my abilities thats the problem, its my internet - its too slow for me to provide any useful services over it. i already know VB and C# and a small amount of C++, but with slow internet im not much use for remote services. i also said "at this point in time" as well.no one is gonna give u $14 not with that attitude, they wont |