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Title: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: Bitware on August 01, 2013, 07:51:47 PM
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/08/government-knocking-doors-because-google-searches/67864/

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[T]hey were peppering my husband with questions. Where is he from? Where are his parents from? They asked about me, where was I, where do I work, where do my parents live. Do you have any bombs, they asked. Do you own a pressure cooker? My husband said no, but we have a rice cooker. Can you make a bomb with that? My husband said no, my wife uses it to make quinoa. What the hell is quinoa, they asked. ...

Have you ever looked up how to make a pressure cooker bomb? My husband, ever the oppositional kind, asked them if they themselves weren’t curious as to how a pressure cooker bomb works, if they ever looked it up. Two of them admitted they did.


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: BCB on August 01, 2013, 07:54:07 PM
Absolutely frightening!


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: RodeoX on August 01, 2013, 08:03:48 PM
I really dislike these attempts to enforce ignorance. I have known how to make bombs since childhood. I studied chemistry and physics and I know what quinoa is. WTF do they want me to do, unlearn everything?


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: RodeoX on August 01, 2013, 08:28:10 PM
I'm skeptical about the truth of this article ...
Good points. I would never even consider letting them in my house without a warrant. Then we would have a record with a judges name on it, and the name of the requesting authority.


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: cp1 on August 01, 2013, 08:39:50 PM
I'm skeptical about the truth of this article ...
Good points. I would never even consider letting them in my house without a warrant. Then we would have a record with a judges name on it, and the name of the requesting authority.

Tons of people let cops search without a warrant.  The cops rely on this.

The question is -- if you refuse 6 guys would they just come back at 3AM with 60 guys and a battering ram?


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: Fiyasko on August 01, 2013, 08:43:28 PM
TEAM AMERICA, WORLD POLICE!
That movie perfectly describes whats happening.
These American Gov. Officals know what they're trying to do, but they don't know what they're actually doing


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: Mike Christ on August 01, 2013, 11:48:10 PM
The photo isn't of the occurrence, and they mixed up federal agents with...well, whoever they think made the visit, now.  Commenters are just gobbling this shit up.  I'm normally skeptical about anything, but come on; they could have just a tiny bit of doubt.

Anyway, lets take a look into my imaginary crystal ball.  The next presidential election is going to feature a man (literally two men, but they'll be the same guy) who promises clean the country up and get rid of all this debt and can the NSA, and protect all your freedoms and liberties and privacy, and shortly after he gets into office (doesn't matter if he's a repub or demo, they're basically the same thing, but chances are it'll be a repub 'cos they have 8 years to bitch about now) there will be another war, and the problems he aimed to solve will have seemingly gotten better on the surface to distract from this war, through manipulation of the press and what have you, but will have gotten far, far worse to anyone who can take the time to read more than a headline or do some research outside of the liberal/conservative journal fuckfest.  The republicans will bitch about the democrats and the democrats will bitch about the republicans, the debt will pile up, the government will ask for more power to solve their problems (and by ask I mean, take, since not even the NSA can be touched by the wonder of representative democracy; and by their problems, I mean theirs, not mine or yours) and anyone with any sense left will take that redneck's advice and get the hell out of his country, because the only patriots left in America by then will be saying a new version of "Sieg heil!" or supporting them through the quasi-socialist regime (likely to be named alongside freedom or liberty) brought about as a response to this war, which nobody, especially not the people who want to war, can afford, but fuck it, Americans couldn't stand against this war, why would they stand against the next?


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: Foxpup on August 02, 2013, 12:34:38 AM
I'm skeptical about the truth of this article considering that nobody knows who these law enforcement people are, and that her husband, "ever the oppositional kind", made no attempt the validate them, and he even allowed them to search his home.
You were right to be sceptical. It turns out the man did his search for "pressure cooker bombs" from his work computer, shortly after being fired, and his boss, who was no doubt shitting himself at the prospect of a disgruntled ex-employee blowing up the office, did the only sensible thing and called the cops on him.

Next week on World's Dumbest Non-Criminals: An unarmed man is shot by police... after sticking his finger in his jacket and shouting "I have gun!" ::)


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: TECSHARE on August 02, 2013, 09:06:32 AM
I'm skeptical about the truth of this article considering that nobody knows who these law enforcement people are, and that her husband, "ever the oppositional kind", made no attempt the validate them, and he even allowed them to search his home.
You were right to be sceptical. It turns out the man did his search for "pressure cooker bombs" from his work computer, shortly after being fired, and his boss, who was no doubt shitting himself at the prospect of a disgruntled ex-employee blowing up the office, did the only sensible thing and called the cops on him.

Next week on World's Dumbest Non-Criminals: An unarmed man is shot by police... after sticking his finger in his jacket and shouting "I have gun!" ::)

Welcome to pre-crime, the real goal of the whole Snowden affair. We are watching you and we will violate your rights if we think you MIGHT do something, regardless of evidence.


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: greyhawk on August 02, 2013, 10:35:01 AM
Well the logical reaction is of course to outlaw pressure cookers.


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: RapidCoinz on August 02, 2013, 10:46:39 AM
We're being watched peeps   >:(



Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: tiberiandusk on August 02, 2013, 10:49:30 AM
This was his company reporting him. It wasn't the NSA spying on him but it will be soon.


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: john_nalpa on August 02, 2013, 10:56:07 AM
They are lucky that they didn't searched "Child" and "Porn" .

lol


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: J603 on August 02, 2013, 06:37:45 PM
The only source in that article is the family themselves...

Found other articles, all of which (even Huffington Post) only cite the woman herself. I could believe that someone talked to her, but I think that she's exaggerating a little.

Edit: Huffington Post says that no one actually visited her:

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A FBI spokeswoman told The Huffington Post that the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force was not involved in the matter and said the incident was handled by The Nassau County Police Department. A Nassau County Police spokesman told HuffPost he had no record of any officers visiting Catalono's home.


Also, Obama visited me the other day. That's how I know she's lying. Here's the source that proves that he came here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=266411.msg2855413#msg2855413


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: gbl08ma on August 02, 2013, 07:38:56 PM
The story, from a more or less first-person point of view: https://medium.com/something-like-falling/2e7d13e54724


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: Ekaros on August 03, 2013, 09:45:49 AM
The story, from a more or less first-person point of view: https://medium.com/something-like-falling/2e7d13e54724

You know that records from his previous job were also included makes the thing really scary...

Maybe someone should do something about this..


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: Schleicher on August 03, 2013, 01:30:55 PM
http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/screen-shot-2013-08-01-at-3-46-53-pm.png?w=640 (http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/01/employer-tipped-off-police-in-pressure-cookerbackpack-gate-not-google/)


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: Dougie on August 03, 2013, 07:27:36 PM
Scary stuff. Makes me want to use a vpn for everything. Then I'd be trusting my privacy with them though...


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: J603 on August 05, 2013, 05:30:26 PM
http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/screen-shot-2013-08-01-at-3-46-53-pm.png?w=640 (http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/01/employer-tipped-off-police-in-pressure-cookerbackpack-gate-not-google/)

Where is that? I'm on their site and the only press releases for august 1st are

"Body found in Blackhawk Marina"
"Copiague man arrested for having 69 license suspensions"
"man arrested for multiple burglaries"

http://apps.suffolkcountyny.gov/police/morepress.htm

And that image has the wrong font, and does not have the usual information that their press releases have, such as time and the author of the press release.


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: FreedomCoin on August 05, 2013, 06:35:22 PM
Scary stuff. Makes me want to use a vpn for everything. Then I'd be trusting my privacy with them though...

Xkeyscore can crack VPNs now.


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: NietzschesMustache on August 05, 2013, 08:50:20 PM
I feel more safe yet less safe.


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: Nik1ab on August 05, 2013, 09:50:29 PM
Scary stuff. Makes me want to use a vpn for everything. Then I'd be trusting my privacy with them though...

Xkeyscore can crack VPNs now.
Source?


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: Schleicher on August 06, 2013, 02:13:19 AM
Where is that?
It's on techcrunch.com
Click on the image to see the article.


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: J603 on August 06, 2013, 01:47:07 PM
Where is that?
It's on techcrunch.com
Click on the image to see the article.

The "source" for that image on that article leads to the page I already went to, which does not have the supposed press release.

Also:
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For those of you wondering where we got the press release: I called the Suffolk County Police Department for a statement, and they emailed it to me.

So she called them, and they made a "press" release that for whatever reason only she can see? Sounds like bs to me. The font on her image isn't even the correct one, and it doesn't say who sent it to her. Plus, that source that I posted earlier (by Huffington Post) says that no one visited the house. I trust a reliable news source over some blogger who wants a ticket on the hype train.

This entire story sounds very unlikely.


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: polarhei on August 06, 2013, 02:08:08 PM
Noticed, The police department answers they have to answer a formal complain which is treated as must-dealt due to the infamous effects found from some publications. Normally, Regardless the nature, exposed material is normally treated as archival purposes or being abadeoned.

The force works quick to stop rumors due to the prism effects and security issues. I think the operation is crazy in general but from company, it can be serious that which must be checked first.


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: Gabi on August 07, 2013, 05:05:20 PM
I hope obama bans pressure cookers!!!! <-sarcasm


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: J603 on August 07, 2013, 06:19:37 PM
Am I the only one who noticed that there's no proof of this ever happening?

Did anyone actually check the Suffolk County site?


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: RodeoX on August 08, 2013, 01:21:46 PM
Am I the only one who noticed that there's no proof of this ever happening?

Did anyone actually check the Suffolk County site?
It seems the more one looks into this, the less true it becomes.


Title: Re: Family is visited by 6 armed men after Googling backpacks and pressure cookers
Post by: J603 on August 08, 2013, 01:36:16 PM
Am I the only one who noticed that there's no proof of this ever happening?

Did anyone actually check the Suffolk County site?
It seems the more one looks into this, the less true it becomes.

Good. At least someone noticed. I was sick of seeing all the other posts that were believing it blindly.

I already posted a HuffPost article that said that no one visited her, and I posted a link to the Suffolk County site which shows that the "press release" was fake. Of course the blogger claimed after she got called out that the "press" release was released to only her, even though it is not addressed to her in particular. Plus, the photoshop sucks as she used the wrong font and forgot to include the name of the person that gave it to her, probably since impersonating a police officer is illegal...