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Title: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: Crypto Piece on January 01, 2018, 09:35:11 PM
I want to know if it is possible because then I need to exit before fees are higher than my balance.  ???


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: aleksej996 on January 01, 2018, 10:04:47 PM
No one can tell you with certainty, it is a free market.
But with implementation of segwit and LN fees should lower in upcoming months.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: eaLiTy on January 01, 2018, 10:11:09 PM
I want to know if it is possible because then I need to exit before fees are higher than my balance. 
If the price of bitcoin rises then sure the price of transaction also increases,as long as there is network congestion there is no way getting around that unless the lightning network is activated and i am sure that they will implement it before crossing the thousand dollar transaction fees.  :D we are now paying around fifty dollars on an average and to reach thousand dollars it will take some time. :P


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: Saimabutterfly on January 01, 2018, 10:18:24 PM
Lets hope for the best. I seriously think devs will make some changes and we all will be benefited.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: Siopao on January 01, 2018, 10:22:41 PM
This is also my dilemma, the very high transaction fees. Sometimes the fee is even higher than the amount to be transferred. And so I will be left with no choice but to leave my bitcoin earnings in my wallet. I hope the fees will be lower.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: hieuho381 on January 01, 2018, 10:37:44 PM
The bitcoin fee will increase by the bitcoin value. This really brings a lot of difficulties for small investors with no big deal. Transaction fees are largely due to commercial and miner sites, so I think that commercial sites should have a policy of attracting investors by reducing transaction fees rather than continually increasing current ones. an unwise decision in the long run.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: Tenderino on January 01, 2018, 10:41:43 PM
No, there is this new lightening nertwork with instant transfers and zero fee. It is only a question of time until something is offered to solve the high fees, because honestly otherwise I also have to leave bitcoin because I usually send smaller amounts and it asked for $15 fee last time. Funny, I still do not know how the fee is calculated? Is it a fixed fee or depends on the amount someone sends?


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: icanscript on January 01, 2018, 10:46:46 PM
No, the size of average payments will not allow it to be done. And when the lightning network starts, the problem will fall off by itself.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: btc2mars on January 01, 2018, 10:47:41 PM
No, the size of average payments will not allow it to be done. And when the lightning network starts, the problem will fall off by itself.

When will lightning network be introduced?
Been hearing about it for a long time .....


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: MiningSensei on January 01, 2018, 10:49:07 PM
With the implementation of segwit? it is almost implemented on all the wallets, it is not implemented on the shitty exchanges who do not care a fuck and they only want to make as much profit as they can.

No one can tell you with certainty, it is a free market.
But with implementation of segwit and LN fees should lower in upcoming months.

It is being tested at the moment, and no one knows when is it going to be in here, on the main blockchain, but it is going to be extremely fast and the fees are going to be very cheap..

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When will lightning network be introduced?

Less than $0,01 worth of bitcoins for a single transaction, i am in love with the lightning network.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 01, 2018, 10:53:20 PM
I probably have the worst wallet in the world at this point--Mycelium.  Any wallet that doesn't allow you to choose exactly what you want for a fee is useless when the *minimum* fee is $45 for a $150 transaction.  My bitcoin is effectively frozen, and I think I'm going to abandon Mycelium after this.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: Westingcote on January 01, 2018, 11:18:35 PM
The miners will be hoping it does and mining could become very stable income for just for the fees alone. It shouldn't do especially if the lightning network is introduced successfully.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: Low Sigma on January 01, 2018, 11:21:32 PM
I want to know if it is possible because then I need to exit before fees are higher than my balance.  ???

If you have BTC in exchanges, just convert to ETH or other solid coins.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: TheButterZone on January 01, 2018, 11:24:46 PM
What is this, FUD? Fees already dropped like a rock before you posted this, except maybe on exchanges that get kickbacks from miners from systematically overcharging their users TX fees.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: BTCforJoe on January 01, 2018, 11:30:10 PM
Fudders gonna fud, I guess...

I just created a transaction for $100 BTC between addresses to test the current fee structure for myself. My friend just told me that he sent a "Standard" transaction on Blockchain's web wallet yesterday, and upon viewing his txid, it shows a dozen confirmations... The best part? His fees were only 96 sat/byte. I set a custom fee of 240 sat/byte, and I had my 3 confirmations within an hour.

The fees are dictated by miners, yes, but ultimately, the users are the ones who choose to pay higher fees in order for their transactions to get included in a block first. I think more and more new users are finally learning about transaction fees, and realizing that they don't have to send ridiculous fees... Or it's just costing them an arm and a leg to continue creating transactions with such high fees.

Stop fudding. Yes, $7 in fees for a $100 transaction is still high, but it's not nearly as bad as it was a week ago.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: crzy on January 01, 2018, 11:32:08 PM
I want to know if it is possible because then I need to exit before fees are higher than my balance.  ???

NO I don't think so, because if this thing happen bitcoin will surely crash. The fees are getting lower now so and I believe it will continue to drop down and bitcoin will soar higher again. We can really tell what will happen in the future, but if you believe on the power of bitcoin you will surely enjoy the benefit of it in the future.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: Alns on January 01, 2018, 11:39:32 PM
Going to thousands of dollars? Came on mate, they are never going to be as high as those.
And the fees have always been in BTC since the beggining. But bitcoin needs to be over 20million dollars in order to have a fee of $1000 at least.

And if the lightning network gets implemented, forget about it, because it is going to get implemented soon and we are going to see those fees of 1 cent each soon.

Just stop being pesimist about it, the fees are always going to recover and it is just matter of time until it does it.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: marjon on January 02, 2018, 12:10:52 AM
That would be possible, since we're not already on the day where the price of a Bitcoin can only buy a sliced of pizza so it was almost zero fees of transaction on that time. Now the price of Bitcoin can buy a sliced of Gold bar.. in addition, the difficulty level also keeps increasing by time, plus network congestion due massive transactions every seconds. But we hope for the good ongoing improvement from lowering the fees.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: Freegan on January 02, 2018, 12:21:18 AM
It is obvious that if the price of bitcoin continues to grow exponentially and large capitals continue to enter the ecosystem massively without a substantial solution to the current problems, fees will tend to continue growing in an exorbitant way. But there are certain hopes for the implementation of new alternatives that have emerged recently, just need to reach consensus to adapt massively and reduce costs.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: seizetehday5 on January 02, 2018, 12:44:51 AM
In theory we should get closer to a spot where things cost less and transactions don't cost more but here we are 6 months later after Segwit and adoption is minimal. Can you tell me why people complain about fees yet a small % have adopted Segwit addresses? That doesn't make sense to me and as for Lightning Network not terribly excited anymore I recently found out that it isn't a decentralized network ie that is not good imo.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: Hobo66 on January 02, 2018, 12:58:24 AM
I'm facing the same situation about the bitcoin fees as well,
due to the increase in bitcoin price value the fees have been
growing to the moon ever since, I hope they could fix this issue soon.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: danherbias07 on January 02, 2018, 01:00:48 AM
I dont think so. Even with a hundred dollars of transaction fee people might get weary and cannot take that anymore.

Even just now they are all screaming about the fees, what else when it goes to a higher one.
Maybe when 1 bitcoin will be equal to a million dollars. Then maybe they will make fees that will be equal to how much it should be.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: brushtooth on January 02, 2018, 01:05:56 AM
I want to know if it is possible because then I need to exit before fees are higher than my balance.  ???

It's possible, but I don't think it will happen. If fees got to such a high amount then bitcoin would be completely useless and the price would crash enormously. While fees right now are far from ideal the situation is still salvageable


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: Bukx on January 02, 2018, 01:07:09 AM
I want to know if it is possible because then I need to exit before fees are higher than my balance.  ???

Fees going higher similar with the bitcoin price going higher.
So in this case, fee can growing higher depending on bitcoin price.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: BossMacko on January 02, 2018, 01:10:01 AM
It can become possible if you are going to withdraw or deposit a big amount of Bitcoin during congested network when there are lots of pending transactions that is slowly being confirmed by the miners, like 100k+ unconfirmed transaction.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: ss890 on January 02, 2018, 01:12:24 AM
I want to know if it is possible because then I need to exit before fees are higher than my balance.  ???
I don't think that bitcoin price will rise to one thousand dollar. It's crazy to think even if they are doing the weired updates on fees these days. The fees are decided randomly most of the time and a miner choose which one to take.

What if in the future there are miners who are ready to process your transaction with hundred dollars and there are miners who are the usual one which you think will accept the one thousand dollar fees. Then what do you think where people will go? It's most probably the first group with little fees. The rest miners will never get those fees. Otherwise bitcoin will never work.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: PX-Z on January 02, 2018, 01:29:09 AM
Bitcoin price is not that high I only asked for something 0.0002-0.0008 BTC every transactions the only people are thinking is that 0.0003 is too high already because of the current rates, if you experienced sending BTC before when the price was just on 5000k then that price is too low IMO. All I can say is that the recommended fee is too high.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: Flor1982 on January 02, 2018, 01:35:33 AM
I want to know if it is possible because then I need to exit before fees are higher than my balance.  ???

If the bitcoin price value increases it will rise together with your remaining balance and the fees too. Therefore you should be use to it. The transactions fees might reduce if their is no more traffic in the blockchain that is why the need to support segwit is a must so that it could make the traffic smooth and will reduce the fees of the miners.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: jseverson on January 02, 2018, 01:45:28 AM
There's no way. Bitcoin is starting to stabilize. Sure, the backlog is still very much north of 100k transactions, but it's much better compared to like 240k like 2 weeks ago. The transaction fees should return to normal soon, and it's very likely we'll see a rally after.

I'm facing the same situation about the bitcoin fees as well,
due to the increase in bitcoin price value the fees have been
growing to the moon ever since, I hope they could fix this issue soon.

Value is a driving factor, but the main culprit is the massive number of transactions. Satoshis are getting more expensive, yes, but you still shouldn't end up paying more than a few cents under normal network conditions.


Title: Re: Will fees keep rising to thousands of dollars?
Post by: DARKANGEL6415 on January 02, 2018, 02:28:01 AM
Ok i must admit just the tought of seeing your post turned my stomach  hardcore.  Who would ever imagine transaction fees in the price range of thousands of dollars.  Now with lightning network being tested and deployed hopefully those high fees are gone.