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Title: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: mybtcasset on January 02, 2018, 01:18:39 PM
New York: Bitcoin’s about to boost the world’s third-largest economy, according to analysts at Nomura.

The digital coin’s 1,500% rally this year has left crypto-crazed Japanese investors likely sitting on hefty gains that Nomura thinks will spur consumer spending.

“Rises in asset values often result in a rise in consumer spending, too, known as the wealth effect,” the team, led by Yoshiyuki Suimon, wrote on Friday. “We estimate the wealth effect from unrealized gains on bitcoin trading by Japanese investors since the start of fiscal year 2017, and estimate a potential boost to consumer spending of 23.2-96.0 billion yen.”

The note points out that trading volume in the bitcoin market is roughly 40% yen, which is larger than even the US dollar’s share.

Bitcoin has fallen about 25% since closing in on $20,000 on 18 December, trading around $14,500 in New York on Friday afternoon.

Still, Nomura is confident that the share of investors who have benefited is much larger than those who may have lost money due to the recent decline.

“Moreover, the fact that the rise in bitcoin prices was concentrated in 2017 fourth quarter could result in the wealth effect materializing in 2018 first quarter, and if that is the case, we estimate a potential boost to real GDP growth on an annualized quarter over quarter basis of up to about 0.3 percentage points,” Nomura said. Bloomberg

http://www.livemint.com/Money/jAw6xJbZCXvNzDkde2oShN/Japans-economy-could-get-a-boost-in-2018-from-bitcoin.html


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: lifetimebitcoins on January 02, 2018, 01:20:37 PM
Japan is major inspiration for any country how cryptocurrency got regulated and shown way for legalisation hopefully more country follow the wealth circle like Japan


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: icoprofits on January 02, 2018, 01:22:34 PM
60 billion dollars to 600 billion dollars crypto market capitalisation country like Japan will take major share


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: cryptocurrencyguru on January 02, 2018, 01:24:32 PM
next year it will increase  Bitcoin will have a major impact on the country economy. Governments cant ignore to loose tax


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: Pleione527 on January 02, 2018, 01:26:20 PM
I think this is really possible since Japan already declare their support over bitcoin and also they start adopting it in their market. If bitcoin value will continue to pump while this country is moving their economy towards digital currency it will really boost their economy and will surely help their people a lot in becoming more financially stable and independent.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: cybersofts on January 03, 2018, 12:27:19 AM
Japan is the safe haven for cryptocurrencies, new crypto startups and the investors as well. Japan was the first country to show major concern about  the development and implementation of the virtual currencies to the public. No doubt, bitcoin ‘adds 0.3%’ to Japan’s GDP in 2017. Perhaps, that will be double in this year 2018.
Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-adds-03-to-japans-gdp-claim-nomura-analysts


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: Halcyon Days on January 03, 2018, 12:40:57 AM
It is really great, that Japan embraces crypto currencies, whereas other countries fear or even forbid cryptos in general. Overall, I am sure, that the first approach will be lead to a greater success in the end.
The news, that Japan's economy will even benefit from all this, might help to show other countries, how all of this could work out.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: Protected101 on January 03, 2018, 12:50:44 AM
Japan is the main country that cryptocurrency start and it really inspire us that they legalized bitcoin in their country.I think it will be more increasing in the year 2018 and a big impact to us investors.We were hoping for the big growth of bitcoin in this year.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: Drizzlepistol on January 03, 2018, 12:56:09 AM
Japan is the best country in the world with new idea not like other country still fear bitcoin can kill their fiat money. they will lost a tool to control everybody


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: SUDARMONO on January 03, 2018, 12:58:43 AM
it is true that bitcoin makes a lot of rich rich new because of the benefits of bitcoin and I also feel the richness of the bitcoin, and I hope that the bitcoin in 2018 will now always soar.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: tigermonkey on January 03, 2018, 03:02:07 AM
Japan is one of the pro-bitcoin countries. Good to know that bitcoin can contribute to its GDP and boost its economy!


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: jseverson on January 03, 2018, 03:08:44 AM
It's crazy how two countries can look at the same situration and see things very differently. Japan foresees Bitcoin's boom as an opportunity to spur growth, while South Korea expects an imminent collapse. I obviously support Japan's stance much more. The people investing are adults, and all you need to tell them is that they're taking on a risk. Whether they choose to take that risk should be of their own accord. Regulation is good, if only to weed out all the scammers trying to steal from hard working people, but they should also be in support of said hard working people.

But yeah, Japan has always led the global charge in technology so their support of Bitcoin is hardly a surprise. I'm sure they didn't get to where they currently are by stifling new technology.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: A Feeder on January 03, 2018, 03:30:48 AM
New York: Bitcoin’s about to boost the world’s third-largest economy, according to analysts at Nomura.

The digital coin’s 1,500% rally this year has left crypto-crazed Japanese investors likely sitting on hefty gains that Nomura thinks will spur consumer spending.

“Rises in asset values often result in a rise in consumer spending, too, known as the wealth effect,” the team, led by Yoshiyuki Suimon, wrote on Friday. “We estimate the wealth effect from unrealized gains on bitcoin trading by Japanese investors since the start of fiscal year 2017, and estimate a potential boost to consumer spending of 23.2-96.0 billion yen.”

The note points out that trading volume in the bitcoin market is roughly 40% yen, which is larger than even the US dollar’s share.

Bitcoin has fallen about 25% since closing in on $20,000 on 18 December, trading around $14,500 in New York on Friday afternoon.

Still, Nomura is confident that the share of investors who have benefited is much larger than those who may have lost money due to the recent decline.

“Moreover, the fact that the rise in bitcoin prices was concentrated in 2017 fourth quarter could result in the wealth effect materializing in 2018 first quarter, and if that is the case, we estimate a potential boost to real GDP growth on an annualized quarter over quarter basis of up to about 0.3 percentage points,” Nomura said. Bloomberg

http://www.livemint.com/Money/jAw6xJbZCXvNzDkde2oShN/Japans-economy-could-get-a-boost-in-2018-from-bitcoin.html
I am surprised to know that Japan trades more intensely than the US. If Japan has that risky attitude, then I predict that it will be a boost in their GDP indeed. But, we dont know when wilk the price of btc will go down so Japan is in a very profitable yet risky situation


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: Harlot on January 03, 2018, 03:36:35 AM
Good thing that the Japanese Government have a positive view on Bitcoin and how it will boost their economy in the future. While some of the countries being mentioned here does not allow Bitcoin trading or even becoming as a mode of payment as they promote "money laundering" which the argument is now flawed as it is not fault of the currency but the user. I want to see other countries follow Japan on how they support cryptocurrency especially Bitcoin as their is really no harm on doing so.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: GorillaDental on January 03, 2018, 03:39:02 AM
Japan has a track record of adopting technology and adapting it to suit their tastes. It was interesting to see the rise of Monacoin a few months ago.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: taiwww on January 03, 2018, 03:52:46 AM
Japan has supported bitcoin currency since its introduction. Bitcoin government and Japanese economy  supported bitcoin as a result bitcoin share is nearly 40% in economy. According to Japanese analyst consumer spending power has raised since introduction of bitcoin, in 2017 it has increased as much as 96 billion yen. Though Bank of Japan Governor said that speculation is increasing bitcoin`s price, economy is likely to boom in 2018. People have earned a lot in this speculated situation.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: cizatext on January 03, 2018, 03:57:19 AM
Japan is the major market hub for cryptocurrencies and the bitcoin in particular and since Japan has embraced the wealth recycling method then many other countries will follows suit soon. Indeed the third quarter of 2017 was a very tremendous period for bitcoin, we witness price boom and that started even from the first quarter of 2017 so indeed the year was a very tremendous year for bitcoin and I believe this 2018 also will be great for bitcoin as more countries will option in to bitcoin regulations and acceptance.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: JoshMart on January 03, 2018, 04:02:46 AM
2018 looks very promising for the cryptocurrency industry. I'm expecting lots of development in the coins to be competitive in the market, especially Bitcoin which is suffering a huge slowdown lately due to network traffic.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: oaz7t on January 03, 2018, 04:05:32 AM
Its a great thing that Japan has become a safe haven for digital currencies and that it has embraced it.
This will boost the economy and make its peoples' financial status stable and independent and with the rising price it will have a great positive effect on the economy


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: Nunoluck on January 03, 2018, 04:07:58 AM
People in japan and korea are afraid about war in north korea, so they will convert most of their fiat into bitcoin because bitcoin is good safe haven and they can move it anywhere they want without any problem. Actually , today is very good chance to buy bitcoin in lower price.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: emmmmm on January 03, 2018, 04:09:33 AM
With the rise of bitcoin, it is possible that Japan will gradually become the third largest economy, which is entirely possible because the people of Japan are already smart.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: cloud.runner on January 03, 2018, 04:39:55 AM
Japan is the only main country which actively support Bitcoin. It should invest much and has a roadmap about Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: senin on January 03, 2018, 05:12:49 AM
The fact that Japan is getting rich from the introduction of the crypto currency into its economy and will increase its domestic gross increase in the country's output by 0.3 percent is very good for the popularization of crypto-currencies around the world and is a good example for other countries. Until this time it was difficult to say how the crypto currency really affects the economy of the country, which it uses so massively. Such information will have a very positive effect on the distribution of crypto currency throughout the world and will be a good weapon in the fight against opponents of the crypto currency.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: Wyne on January 03, 2018, 05:33:40 AM
New York: Bitcoin’s about to boost the world’s third-largest economy, according to analysts at Nomura.

The digital coin’s 1,500% rally this year has left crypto-crazed Japanese investors likely sitting on hefty gains that Nomura thinks will spur consumer spending.

“Rises in asset values often result in a rise in consumer spending, too, known as the wealth effect,” the team, led by Yoshiyuki Suimon, wrote on Friday. “We estimate the wealth effect from unrealized gains on bitcoin trading by Japanese investors since the start of fiscal year 2017, and estimate a potential boost to consumer spending of 23.2-96.0 billion yen.”

The note points out that trading volume in the bitcoin market is roughly 40% yen, which is larger than even the US dollar’s share.

Bitcoin has fallen about 25% since closing in on $20,000 on 18 December, trading around $14,500 in New York on Friday afternoon.

Still, Nomura is confident that the share of investors who have benefited is much larger than those who may have lost money due to the recent decline.

“Moreover, the fact that the rise in bitcoin prices was concentrated in 2017 fourth quarter could result in the wealth effect materializing in 2018 first quarter, and if that is the case, we estimate a potential boost to real GDP growth on an annualized quarter over quarter basis of up to about 0.3 percentage points,” Nomura said. Bloomberg

http://www.livemint.com/Money/jAw6xJbZCXvNzDkde2oShN/Japans-economy-could-get-a-boost-in-2018-from-bitcoin.html
Yes, I agree with Nomura.  Even bitcoin decreases its value by the last quarter of December, still it is a fact that many people gain more earnings than its lost from bitcoin that bitcoiners  experienced and benefited.  The good thing about Japanese people are they do not lost faith on bitcoin instead they keep their confidence and still believe on it.  I am hoping that the potential boost in economy and bitcoin will be materialized in the first quarter of 2018 as what Namura stated. 


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: azguard on January 03, 2018, 10:14:37 AM
The fact that Japan is getting rich from the introduction of the crypto currency into its economy and will increase its domestic gross increase in the country's output by 0.3 percent is very good for the popularization of crypto-currencies around the world and is a good example for other countries. Until this time it was difficult to say how the crypto currency really affects the economy of the country, which it uses so massively. Such information will have a very positive effect on the distribution of crypto currency throughout the world and will be a good weapon in the fight against opponents of the crypto currency.

For popularity it is good. How ever many dont want to get involved just yet, cuz probably they think that Japan made mistake but I think they made right move in right time. Japan is always ahead of time in everything and they dont fear of technological set backs. For me they will probably be leading country in economy in let say 5 years and they could say that bitcoin made them be top economical country in the world.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: amaydel on January 03, 2018, 10:35:40 AM
Usually the country with a large economy are often the country that embrace in new technology, like the blockchain. How i wish this could be an eye-opener to other countries who are in the move of banning bitcoin than embracing it. Good for Japanese that they are open-minded about the blockchain technology. As a result, their economy will be getting more bigger this year.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: shinjunobi09 on January 03, 2018, 10:39:22 AM
Yup especially now that the volume of demand is going to increase because now some company in japan are paying their employees through bitcoin and besides japan is very much open in welcoming to new technological made that can help the people lives be much more comfortable.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: Mirugame_ on January 03, 2018, 10:52:59 AM
Economically speaking Japan remains in top on the global stage, and because of the demographic trends threatening to shrink its workforce significantly in the years ahead, I think they are making the right decisions about integrating cryptocurrency in its economy.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: sandwichman1 on January 03, 2018, 10:55:12 AM
why is he interested in bitcoin only now?


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: Visbay on January 04, 2018, 07:15:14 PM
With the rise of bitcoin, it is possible that Japan will gradually become the third largest economy, which is entirely possible because the people of Japan are already smart.
I think japan is the first country who is using bitcoin in a very high quantity and its users are also very high from everywhere bitcoin is also teaching in schools and in some companies staff are receiving their salaries in bitcoin so there where you want to use bitcoin in japan you can use it because bitcoin is very popular in Japan and its accepted in many banks in japan so there is no doubt that in 2018 japan economy will boost.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: spngebob on January 04, 2018, 07:18:20 PM
I like the way how Japan is handling new technologies and adopting bitcoin.
Other countries should follow them and do the same thing they did, bitcoin can help economy a lot. I am not quite sure why big countries don't see that.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: GoldMen on January 11, 2018, 06:32:37 AM
I like the way how Japan is handling new technologies and adopting bitcoin.
Other countries should follow them and do the same thing they did, bitcoin can help economy a lot. I am not quite sure why big countries don't see that.


they are doing it, not only is Japan opening its eyes. The whole world is happy with this new era and sees itself with the demands until the day


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: naily on January 11, 2018, 06:45:24 AM
New York: Bitcoin’s about to boost the world’s third-largest economy, according to analysts at Nomura.

The digital coin’s 1,500% rally this year has left crypto-crazed Japanese investors likely sitting on hefty gains that Nomura thinks will spur consumer spending.

“Rises in asset values often result in a rise in consumer spending, too, known as the wealth effect,” the team, led by Yoshiyuki Suimon, wrote on Friday. “We estimate the wealth effect from unrealized gains on bitcoin trading by Japanese investors since the start of fiscal year 2017, and estimate a potential boost to consumer spending of 23.2-96.0 billion yen.”

The note points out that trading volume in the bitcoin market is roughly 40% yen, which is larger than even the US dollar’s share.

Bitcoin has fallen about 25% since closing in on $20,000 on 18 December, trading around $14,500 in New York on Friday afternoon.

Still, Nomura is confident that the share of investors who have benefited is much larger than those who may have lost money due to the recent decline.

“Moreover, the fact that the rise in bitcoin prices was concentrated in 2017 fourth quarter could result in the wealth effect materializing in 2018 first quarter, and if that is the case, we estimate a potential boost to real GDP growth on an annualized quarter over quarter basis of up to about 0.3 percentage points,” Nomura said. Bloomberg

http://www.livemint.com/Money/jAw6xJbZCXvNzDkde2oShN/Japans-economy-could-get-a-boost-in-2018-from-bitcoin.html

because japan has legalized this crypto currency and their country already support bitcoin, and finally can increase financial of japan society, and turn over transaction grow in its country, i hope this become example of other countries


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: Kotone on January 11, 2018, 06:52:18 AM
New York: Bitcoin’s about to boost the world’s third-largest economy, according to analysts at Nomura.

The digital coin’s 1,500% rally this year has left crypto-crazed Japanese investors likely sitting on hefty gains that Nomura thinks will spur consumer spending.

“Rises in asset values often result in a rise in consumer spending, too, known as the wealth effect,” the team, led by Yoshiyuki Suimon, wrote on Friday. “We estimate the wealth effect from unrealized gains on bitcoin trading by Japanese investors since the start of fiscal year 2017, and estimate a potential boost to consumer spending of 23.2-96.0 billion yen.”

The note points out that trading volume in the bitcoin market is roughly 40% yen, which is larger than even the US dollar’s share.

Bitcoin has fallen about 25% since closing in on $20,000 on 18 December, trading around $14,500 in New York on Friday afternoon.

Still, Nomura is confident that the share of investors who have benefited is much larger than those who may have lost money due to the recent decline.

“Moreover, the fact that the rise in bitcoin prices was concentrated in 2017 fourth quarter could result in the wealth effect materializing in 2018 first quarter, and if that is the case, we estimate a potential boost to real GDP growth on an annualized quarter over quarter basis of up to about 0.3 percentage points,” Nomura said. Bloomberg

http://www.livemint.com/Money/jAw6xJbZCXvNzDkde2oShN/Japans-economy-could-get-a-boost-in-2018-from-bitcoin.html

And if this goes smoothly and effectively the best thing we can have is that a lot of countries can look up to Kapan and use it as a blueprint for their economy to have a boost or to even enjoy the profits that cryptocurrencies can offer for a new age


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: mustakforum on January 11, 2018, 06:54:43 AM
Because Japan has been trying to make Bitcoin a part of their economic growth and economic culture.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: dado7 on January 11, 2018, 08:04:45 AM
Any economy with surplus of good investors over bad ones can profit from exchange markets (stock market, Forex, crypto market....). However, only if they keep investing the extra money back into the economy of that particular country and if the taxation is properly regulated.

I wrote in another thread that for me the taxation of earnings in crypto market doesn't feel right, but I may be inclined to change my mind. You have to understand that my country is not doing anything good with the money they receive from taxes and hence my scepticism.

The economy of Japan wouldn't be so strong as it is if it wasn't regulated well, if their Government and main investors weren't investing in strategic places and if they didn't have a good short, mid and long term planning. Hence I also believe they have a good plan on how to use Bitcoin (or altcoins) to regulate the money supply and have other benefits, not just those coming from a profit from the rise of the market (which would be dangerous as the market could crash).

You have to understand though that if you make a profit on exchanges it means someone else had a loss. So unless new Bitcoins were created it wouldn't increase the, let's call it a "world profit". But that is the story for another thread maybe.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: kiki52 on January 11, 2018, 11:00:54 AM
yah. i think japan will get the major for any country how cryptocurrency got regulated in japan. we hope many country will follow japan in digital currency. because cryptocurrency can make a big impact for economy.


Title: Re: Japan’s economy could get a boost in 2018 from bitcoin
Post by: keykey1 on January 13, 2018, 09:55:04 AM
A great help in this explosive growth of the economy was rendered also by Ripple. I'm sure the successful experience of Ripple developers will be extended to other countries. We'll see how cryptocurrencies, Bitcoin and Ripple support economic growth.