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Guys have you noticed new announcement by telegram owner in latest day of 2017 ?

https://twitter.com/durov/status/947420374102413312

telegram is going to use blockchain technology too,now it seems blockchain technology is more than helpful
we are gonna have it on telegram soon  :)

that was be great if that is approved we are all have a opportunity to have something use for communicating income so i will agree for that. so come on a soon as possible.

Wow. Bitcoin is truly starting to change the world for the better. Every adoption, innovation, tweak or improvement of Bitcoin is going to be pay off exponentially in years to come as well. All of this gets me so excited for the future!

They must have noticed the great potential of cryptocurrency so they are riding the wave. Well i guess it is not impossible to noticed that, since cryptocurrency has been a trending topic for the past few months when bitcoin boom and i think telegram as being used for announcement for ICOs and bounty campaign has contribute a reason for them to launch its own blockchain and cryptocurrency.

Going to the blockchain would be a nice one.  Honestly, telegram is underrated even though it is a veritable tool for most progressive companies. It is far better than WhatsApp. It should adopt the blockchain technology speedily.

Very good! Telegram will definitely grow, good team and good technology adoption. Blockchain as a database is a rising concept that will be massively used shortly!

The long-awaited crypto token sale from the Russian messaging platform Telegram has hit a wall in the form of the US Securities and Exchange Commission. The regulator has filed an emergency action and received a restraining order for the $1.7 billion planned ICO.
https://bitcoinist.com/us-crypto-crackdown-telegram-token-sale-rejected-by-sec/

it has, but it wont face any trouble, telegram is a going truly decentralized soon
even those sec guys wont be able to stop it.
this is a fact, that world is not accepting centralized anymore, any decentralized service or product will have a bright future

I think they are just rejected on the US, but the token sale will still commence outside the US Citizen.  So I think the telegram token sale will continue for those who are not US citizen.


Well, they have to face the charges and get out of it before saying that these SEC guys won't be able to stop them., and No, centralized are well accepted, government favors it especially when they have control over it.  Remember the reason of several ETF rejection?  The volume is too decentralized they cannot confirm the validity of the trade, so I think the government is looking for something centralized.

That's dubious to happen, not necessary all company, project, services, etc. should adopt decentralization some of them must remain centralized.
And based on some projects released in the last few years are the fact that not all decentralized projects will have a bright future.

we all know why sec is rejecting any crypto related movements, they are just part of a centralized government, they wont approve anything that will reduce their control over the money flow,

Controligin power is not something that anyone wants to lose it, this is the nature of human race  ;)

The truth will out.  ;D

Heard the SEC has asked telegram to halt their token launch after-sales. I don't know why SEC wants to control everything that seems to be very powerful. It seems they sold to US citizens.

I think SEC denied this.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/11/sec-blocks-the-1-7-billion-token-sale-for-telegrams-cryptocurrency/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwistMf54JflAhXSNKYKHYYaCSYQiJQBMAB6BAgJEAQ&usg=AOvVaw2uVkEDT5QmPyKVfxcEw5mh&ampcf=1

I was very happy when the telegram planned to dive into the world of blockchain as well. That will foster development
cryptocurrency world, of course it is expected to be able to raise the price of bitcoin too. But there are only obstacles
hinder it turns out there is a bad news SEC block telegram's planned token sale. Again and again haters especially
America is always opposed to the concept of decentralization trying various ways so that cryptocurrency does not develop
rapidly. We just monitor how the next development of this problem.

It was an emergency restraining order against telegram that was being raised I believe, but as the US government will do, they'll deny anything related to the incident.

I think even then realise how big for crypto-currencies the billion dollar telegram IPO will be, they are already a huge messenging application and I hope they start interegrating crypto in their applications more now since the majority of their userbase is crypto-based.

Not impossible the new technology is continue to improve and progress a lot of talented people are continue also to find possible improvements of the new technology.




It's simple because through the sec US givernment want to control crypto currency and on that they easy to collect taxes fron the digital crypto currency.

I don't think it'll face any issues with the SEC or the US government, it's way to hard to stunt the growth of them now, especially after they've already raised almost 2 billion in funding. They are unstoppable now.

I think we'll see them quickly deal with this by the end of the year and we'll be able to see them move forward, I'd like to see how they intergrate crypto payments in their messaging app.

I heard this news, And to my knowledge they have raised a lot of money in their Initial Coin Offering. Their proceeds amount to 1.7 Billion $. There will definitely be a large amount of funds to further enhance the development of their coins and it will definitely have a huge impact on Crypto Currency once it open on the market.

My friends are really interested with this concept too, they think telegram has a huge potential, I just don't know what is the status of Telegram now given the chance that they earn a lot in ICO , but now I don't have any idea, my last news was that they said they paused, not sure but hoping for telegram to become successful, it will be a huge for blockchain and to telegram.

It was a Very promising project, alot of people were optimistic about it but with this ugly development and halt from SEC, I wonder how the project will fare. Even if they solve the SEC issues, the initial interest from people is kind of dying down a little.

Well their ICO, which was only available to big, private investors sold out at around 1.7 billion and they seem to be developing the Gram wallet and other resources.

One of their old roadmaps for the ICO estimates that around Q4 of 2019 (right now), they are looking to launch their own TON wallet and deploy the coins into the market, and then in the following quarters add integration from the wallet to the messenger app.

This must be the biggest ico we have witness in a long time, raising up to $1.7 billion is no joke at especially in recent times where many projects are struggling to raise money, I can't wait to see this tokens trading in the market, I hope they can resolve the issue with sec and move on with lunching of the project, I want to buy some GRAM too.

of course it is, much much bigger than libra, all thanks to telegram ecosystem itself, which is liked by users,
i have heard and read some unconfirmed not_good news about the today, but i hope they are just rumeurs,
i wont share them as i dont like to share unconfirmed news, but lets wish theat they come up and show the crypto market how it should be managed, exactly like their messenger that is one of the best in business.

Telegram's TON ICO isn't really the biggest ICO till date though. I mean EOS raised over $4B. You can't raise that much money and not raise an eyebrow. I was certain the sec would be keeping an eye and would clap back. When EOS was taken to court by the sec, They were fined only $20M. If something similar as that happens to this Telegram's case, It shouldn't be much of a problem. The impact of this shouldn't be that serious because They're still on track to distribute tokens to investors and that they're working to resolve the sec filing according to a report they released today.

EOS ICO has lasted one year, and was totally public, many people invested in. Telegram ICO was private, reserved to big investors and lasted only few days as far as I know. So it's not exactly the same thing.

There are really big whales in crypto nowadays. I believe they will be fined on this ICO also and that would not be a problem for Telegram, they can afford that hefty fine. The amount is small as compared to what they raised. So yeah, they will soon join the ranks of companies that integrate blockchain tech within their system.

Telegram has really come a long way in cryptocurrency. I thinks it's among the first community crypto has asides Bitcointalk. But what amazes me most if how Telegram raised such huge amount from VCs and other private investors swiftly without even soliciting for funds openly. 1.7b us dollars Is really a lot of money and SEC couldn't look past it

It's not about the differences in the mechanism of crowdsale that has already used by EOS and Telegram. But you must remember if EOS has already prohibited US customer to participated in the crowdsale and already done IP-blocking to the US IP. In telegram's case, this company is still allowing US customers to participate even a few US customers bought 1 billions worth of GRAM token.
Telegram is not prohibiting US customer to participate and there were some people filled fraud claim against TON crowdsale that brings SEC to investigate TON and put TON project in the worst situation compared with EOS which has failed to register its token to the SEC.

I think they are efficient enough to implement blockchain. In youre crypto life, ever wonder why most project using telegram as a social platform for communicating on many audience? Cause its goof and very useful, imagine if blockchain will be integrated now on their social app? It's gonna boost a lot more than what they can offer the community.

indeed telegram started using blockchain technology but i think telegram is still not suitable if using this technology because there are not too many transactions in telegram, telegram should have a paid platform so that it has transactions and can use teknolgo blockchain and can have requests that can make coin telegram has a sale value at the exchange place.

Many people have used the telegram application and if the telegram has issued tokens for transactions between members, I think it will provide an attraction for new users. Chat applications like Wechat already have their own transaction tools and if the telegram has tokens for transaction tools, many people will be involved in the cryptocurrency market.

Agree, telegram is a popular application that has been used by many people in various countries. If Telegram decides to make its own token to use as a transaction tool in the telegram application, I think it will make it easier for users to transact in addition to making the cryptocurrency market excited again

yeah and now facebook will also plan to launch its own crypto currency, I this is good news for crypto although now the market is down I think when the TON is released it will have little effect and be able to increase the demand for crypto so that many people will join and start trusting crypto .

That's true as telegram is widely used and one of the most user friendly application and their entry in the crypto world will change the course of market as many other social media and chat applications will follow telegrams footstep once it enters the market and this will pool in more number of investors which will increase the demand thus triggering a possible pump.

Telegram and Facebook are in my opinion both social media who want to dive into the world of crypto. But between the two, only telegrams might be realized. Because before Facebook told the community that they were hampered by existing regulations. But I think between the two there are differences, where Facebook will issue its own currency, namely Libra, and TON telegram.

and dont forget both social media platform use  the plaform to scam people.
this telegram  they boost the user of thier platform because many people use it to communicate to people from investors .

I have read today that SEC has restricted all US investors to take part in Telegram token sales, means that around 25 percent of big investors would need to take their funds back, which would harm the project in general and maybe even postpone the release date.

The telegram coin (Gram), already has it's pace on CMC, but no data yet. Since the coin already has its product, further development on it might instil more interest from users. There have been several platforms that wanted such thing as this, but could not get it to this stage. However, considering the seriousness of the team of Gram, I project a much better value in future.

they have already started testing payments in their platform, with payment bot you can sell your products and get paid in your group/channel, its just matter of time when we see crypto there


libra is hard to believe that it can grow easily, as we saw all payment platforms had withdraw after sec/congrass warnings, but as they have a large number of users already, they may be able to pull out some success


they can restrict anyone, while there is not sales anymore, no one will participate in anything. means sec has restricted something that doesnt even exists,
its just showing manner, nothing more is in that announcement to harm anyone

Guys! How to get some GRM tokens as cryptoworld is mad about GRAM, I wanna buy some for sure in my portfolio

And how to buy there? I cant see price, how much?

And as for BTC and FIAT? How long does each transaction occur?

You're right,  12 minutes is a limit or it can take longer?

I see, thank you for sharing this exchange

I highly admire what the telegram did in relation to this topic. As we all know, they've just started in helping projects in ICO's to gain bounty hunters and investors. We can notice that they are slowly building up their reputation to stand in the cryptocurrency space. And now that their reputation was already been established greatly, they are entering the blockchain technology. I have no doubt that in the latter future, they will achieve their success in just a short time.

Beautiful, I mean blockchain technology is advancing into the world through speedy adoption, it is understood that Telegram is one of the biggest end to end social media app, so in my opinion i think this would be a great news for blockchain.

do you follow the news? Now nothing is clear about the development of the TON platform. Sec stopped their activity and it is not known when the platform will be launched

As well as facebook, TON is not yet giving any updates regarding what will be the future of the ICO. SEC already halted TON crowdsale and it looks like TON is having serious problem and compared with libra that is not yet launched, TON has more problems caused by it has already accepted US customers.

I thought that the ton project will be abandoned. It's very similar to facebook's case.

Telegram has its own market and the SEC decision will not affect much of this project. I think TON will be successful in the near future because this is the coin that has been a lot of interest in recent times and if this project implements IEO then no one can stop them. I really want this project to be successful because if TON can do it, it will create a new trend for all the good projects.

It is still too early to talk about this but hopefully TON will have timely solutions to deploy IEO.

You may think twice on buying Gram tokens after reading this news:

https://www.coindesk.com/sec-draws-on-investor-communications-to-halt-telegram-token-launch
https://www.coindesk.com/telegram-could-postpone-crypto-issuance-after-us-halts-token-sale

If this things continue then we can expect that Telegram token launch will not happen this year and some investors might pull back their investment just to be safe and stay away from SEC lawsuit.

This would be very interesting if the telegram correctly properly utilizes the blockchain. Where the telegram user is very much and will probably be interested to try using his.
And people will be more confident with the current crypto.

The influence of blockhain is spreading more. telegram is a huge chatting app that most of crypto users use. maybe, telegram saw that this is right time to take part blockchain to their own system. I cant see any bad idea of it. and telegram also improving its app for us so we can enjoy using telegram app secured and nothing to worry. let's observe how telegram work for this.