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Title: wich Asic Company to choose today?
Post by: Tesla71 on August 05, 2013, 11:51:16 AM
I you want to place a pre order for an Asic today, which company would you choose?

There are so many new companies, my knowldge of them is still at the point where there only where Avalon and BFL.


Title: Re: wich Asic Company to choose today?
Post by: mik3 on August 05, 2013, 12:00:37 PM
bitfury as they take credit cards so you at least have some safety in case they don't deliver or pull a Bfl.


Title: Re: wich Asic Company to choose today?
Post by: Bitcoinorama on August 05, 2013, 12:04:34 PM
Dude, take the time to read and inform yourself.

Most important pay by a means that is secure and your funds are protected.

Paypal only gives a 45 day window, yet your card issuing bank may cover your credit card for a considerable period after. This doesn't apply to all cards, in al, countries and certainly not debit. You pay big fees for credit cad companies to protect you from fraud. Amex is generally the most universally secure.

KnC is meant to be delivering 28nm by the end September, and Paypal's 45 days day window should now certainly cover you to the point at which they have chips in hand, so I'd say they were the most risk adverse. That said I have been confident about them for sometime, and have been accused of having underhand reasoning behind my positivity. That is total BS, but do read around these things yourself and make your own decision there is more than enough evidence out there over who is legitimate and who is not. The other factor is the increasing difficulty as chips become released as working units into the wild. Again, read up first and play with our own calculations. I say this as there is a lot of BS being spread now for a variety if reasons, most trying to protect poor investment choices, or just plain spread FUD.

My only advise is read, inform yourself and pay by a protected payment method and find the cheapest electricity source you can, and never ever pay for this with debt, money you cannot afford to loose (this may explain a lot of the FUD and misinformation). Currently your taking a bet on the first horse to cross the line competently. Decent genuine companies let you visit them and don't make their backgrounds difficult to confirm legitimacy...



Title: Re: wich Asic Company to choose today?
Post by: ||bit on August 05, 2013, 12:05:27 PM
bitfury as they take credit cards so you at least have some safety in case they don't deliver or pull a Bfl.

Supposedly, Bitfury will also have better power efficiency than BFL.


Title: Re: wich Asic Company to choose today?
Post by: rammy2k2 on August 05, 2013, 12:20:34 PM
I would say none because none have a product rdy ...


Title: Re: wich Asic Company to choose today?
Post by: Bitcoinorama on August 05, 2013, 12:30:24 PM
I would say none because none have a product rdy ...

True, but if Paypal 100% protect you for the time that it takes to prove they do have a product. Which is the case for KnC now, it's now become a no risk bet. You can wait until 44 days and then walk with your cash unharmed.

...aside from the fact everyone who has ever requested a refund from them got it quick anyway. ;)

Hopefully they can meet September as promised and put this scam accusation crap behind them.


Title: Re: wich Asic Company to choose today?
Post by: Tesla71 on August 05, 2013, 12:34:44 PM
I would say none because none have a product rdy ...

thats true but that would be the case as long as the diff is low enough to make a profit.
I think from that time on asics could be bought out of stock, they will only make roi with free / nearly free energy like GPU's where doing some month ago..



Title: Re: wich Asic Company to choose today?
Post by: jspielberg on August 05, 2013, 12:42:41 PM
I would say none because none have a product rdy ...
thats true but that would be the case as long as the diff is low enough to make a profit.
I think from that time on asics could be bought out of stock, they will only make roi with free / nearly free energy like GPU's where doing some month ago..

I think they will still be sold out of stock past the point of no ROI just because of the lag in information and understanding.