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Economy => Auctions => Topic started by: dogie on August 05, 2013, 07:15:06 PM



Title: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: dogie on August 05, 2013, 07:15:06 PM
For sale: 5x Batch 3 Avalons

  • 4 module stock speed 88GH, will likely OC to 108-110GH
  • Brand new
  • Including PSU

You know the deal. This is a 36hr FIXED price auction for 5 units.


Terms:

  • 100% paid into escrow within 24 hours of address being provided
  • Units are tested for 24 hours before shipping *in testing this second*
  • Shipped globally from China, $500 declared value
  • Delivery is 2btc, uninsured and buyer is responsible for damage in transit past $500
  • Full insurance is 4btc but requires and $14k declared
  • Escrow (John K) paid by buyer if required
  • Overclocking speed is not guaranteed
  • Warranty will be service by Avalon as usual


Volume discounts:
2+ units = @119
4+ units = @118


Bid format is units @ 120.
Units may be sold by PM.
First come first serve.

Timer removed. End time: 2013-08-06+24:00:00


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: one4many on August 05, 2013, 08:54:12 PM
 :D

watching this closely .... maybe I can learn something ...


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: dogie on August 05, 2013, 10:07:37 PM
:D

watching this closely .... maybe I can learn something ...
About what?


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: dogie on August 06, 2013, 03:54:37 AM
24 hours


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: one4many on August 06, 2013, 11:24:40 AM
:D

watching this closely .... maybe I can learn something ...
About what?
Free bump ... keeping my thumbs pressed!


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: burlow on August 06, 2013, 03:06:53 PM
As someone in the market for ASICs (I have several KnC orders), this sort of thing catches my interest. But as I see it, I can spend 120 BTC here for 110GH, or wait a few months (supposedly..) and get 400GH for 70 BTC. Even with difficulty spiking, the latter looks like a better deal, so I put my money there. I can't speak for others, but I would imagine the thinking is similar.


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: patr on August 06, 2013, 10:01:11 PM
For sale: 5x Batch 3 Avalons

  • 4 module stock speed 88GH, will likely OC to 108-110GH
  • Brand new
  • Including PSU

You know the deal. This is a 36hr FIXED price auction for 5 units.


Terms:

  • 100% paid into escrow within 24 hours of address being provided
  • Units are tested for 24 hours before shipping *in testing this second*
  • Shipped globally from China, $500 declared value
  • Delivery is 2btc, uninsured and buyer is responsible for damage in transit past $500
  • Full insurance is 4btc but requires and $14k declared
  • Escrow (John K) paid by buyer if required
  • Overclocking speed is not guaranteed
  • Warranty will be service by Avalon as usual


Volume discounts:
2+ units = @119
4+ units = @118


Bid format is units @ 120.
Units may be sold by PM.
First come first serve.

Timer removed. End time: 2013-08-06+24:00:00

So it looks like I was right about dropping prices.
If you wanna sell I will give you 90 BTC for 4 module Avalon.
Take or leave it. (You will not be able to sell anymore)


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: dogie on August 06, 2013, 11:49:41 PM
So it looks like I was right about dropping prices.
If you wanna sell I will give you 90 BTC for 4 module Avalon.
Take or leave it. (You will not be able to sell anymore)
You weren't right about anything. If I was to accept 90 you'd cancel it and ask for 70 - you just do the same thing again and again. But nty.


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: dogie on August 07, 2013, 02:33:02 AM
As someone in the market for ASICs (I have several KnC orders), this sort of thing catches my interest. But as I see it, I can spend 120 BTC here for 110GH, or wait a few months (supposedly..) and get 400GH for 70 BTC. Even with difficulty spiking, the latter looks like a better deal, so I put my money there. I can't speak for others, but I would imagine the thinking is similar.

If you look at what 110GH can mine in a few months - you could buy more KNCs in that time if you truly believe in them. There is a significant difference between in hand and preorder without prototype or ANY delivered units though. I wouldn't (and haven't) put all my eggs in one basket. I stick to things which exist immediately ;)


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: mechs on August 07, 2013, 03:51:52 AM
I don't understand why you start the bidding so high.  I guess if that really the least you would sell them for it makes sense but difficulty skyrocketing. I'd dump these fast if I were you.  You will not make even 100 BTC mining from them with how the network hashrate exploding this week.


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: dogie on August 07, 2013, 06:33:37 AM
I don't understand why you start the bidding so high.  I guess if that really the least you would sell them for it makes sense but difficulty skyrocketing. I'd dump these fast if I were you.  You will not make even 100 BTC mining from them with how the network hashrate exploding this week.
Were you expecting it to stay level? Nothing is new, this is all expected.


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: patr on August 07, 2013, 07:19:10 AM
So it looks like I was right about dropping prices.
If you wanna sell I will give you 90 BTC for 4 module Avalon.
Take or leave it. (You will not be able to sell anymore)
You weren't right about anything. If I was to accept 90 you'd cancel it and ask for 70 - you just do the same thing again and again. But nty.

Ok I accept you don't wanna sell, but : "You weren't right about anything." this i proven.
Just accept it.

I will buy for 90 without cancel but it has to be done within 3 days.


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: mechs on August 07, 2013, 07:48:16 AM
I know it not an auction, but I will buy 1 for 85BTC.  Let me know.


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: arbitrage001 on August 07, 2013, 08:09:35 AM
I know it not an auction, but I will buy 1 for 85BTC.  Let me know.

Me too.


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: dogie on August 07, 2013, 08:17:10 AM
As would I ^_^


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: arbitrage001 on August 07, 2013, 08:20:05 AM
How about 100 bitcoin include next day (or 2) delivery and insurance?


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: dogie on August 07, 2013, 07:34:43 PM
Bump


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: Milan77 on August 08, 2013, 12:53:47 AM
Same ppl saying something about ROI and price, trying to hard buy, are now selling their devices for high value :)

So, Dogie is cool with prices...  Free bump for him. :)


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: dogie on August 08, 2013, 12:54:34 AM
Same ppl saying something about ROI and price, trying to hard buy, are now selling their devices for high value :)

So, Dogie is cool with prices...  Free bump for him. :)
Yep, ty :)


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: dogie on August 09, 2013, 05:44:25 AM
Bump


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: mechs on August 09, 2013, 02:07:49 PM
It a bot disingenuous to advertise 85GH units as 110 in the title.  Just because it can be theoretically overclocked to there, with voiding the warranty, aggressive cooling and a dramatic increase in error rates, does not mean it should be advertised as stock speed.

Now, if you were to pre-overclocked them, provide the cooling solution and guarantee the error rate from your own testing, then it would be a fair advertisement.  Regardless, if you serious about moving these, 1BTC per gigahash at stock speeds is what is fair and would offer a decent shot at a ROI for prospective miners. I think you will fail to find buyers above the 85-90 BTC range.


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: dogie on August 09, 2013, 02:09:05 PM
It a bot disingenuous to advertise 85GH units as 110 in the title.  Just because it can be theoretically overclocked to there, with voiding the warranty, aggressive cooling and a dramatic increase in error rates, does not mean it should be advertised as stock speed.

Now, if you were to pre-overclocked them, provide the cooling solution and guarantee the error rate from your own testing, then it would be a fair advertisement.  Regardless, if you serious about moving these, 1BTC per gigahash at stock speeds is what is fair and would offer a decent shot at a ROI for prospective miners. I think you will fail to find buyers above the 85-90 BTC range.


Its the same cooling and power solutions as stock. I'm advertising the same way everyone else is.


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: mechs on August 09, 2013, 02:27:17 PM
It a bot disingenuous to advertise 85GH units as 110 in the title.  Just because it can be theoretically overclocked to there, with voiding the warranty, aggressive cooling and a dramatic increase in error rates, does not mean it should be advertised as stock speed.

Now, if you were to pre-overclocked them, provide the cooling solution and guarantee the error rate from your own testing, then it would be a fair advertisement.  Regardless, if you serious about moving these, 1BTC per gigahash at stock speeds is what is fair and would offer a decent shot at a ROI for prospective miners. I think you will fail to find buyers above the 85-90 BTC range.


Its the same cooling and power solutions as stock. I'm advertising the same way everyone else is.
Fair enough though not everyone advertising like that.  There are other advertising at stock speed in this forum for the same units. It your prerogative, but unless you would truly rather keep these units than sell below your stated prices, you just depreciating as time ticks by and difficulty up while at a price point these unlikely to sell.


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: arbitrage001 on August 09, 2013, 02:48:08 PM
I bet you can sell them on ebay for 13-15k each.



Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: mechs on August 09, 2013, 04:28:43 PM
I bet you can sell them on ebay for 13-15k each.


Would not surprise me. I see idiots there paying $120 per block eruptir when can be ordered for .6 BTC each ($50)


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: erem on August 09, 2013, 06:50:11 PM
Every trader benefits from market inefficiency.


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: ffernandex on August 09, 2013, 08:30:44 PM
Every trader benefits from market inefficiency.

Thus improving the efficiency of the market


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: Polyatomic on August 10, 2013, 08:42:53 AM
I bet you can sell them on ebay for 13-15k each.



Anything selling for over a grand on e-Bay becomes a pain in the ass , paypal freezes your account and requires you to prove your identity , which slows access to funds.


Title: Re: [Fixed Price] 5x110GH in hand -120btc
Post by: dogie on August 10, 2013, 09:42:38 AM
I don't believe a market could function without it.