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Title: Stuck transaction using core 15.01
Post by: sngwinner on January 04, 2018, 03:26:32 AM
I'm hoping someone can help. I haven't performed a BTC transaction using core in over two years and I used the default fee like an idiot. I didn't do my multiplication right when looking at suggested fees and actually thought I was paying a high fee.

6dd64abfba3962f90d9db87756672473fed3dc8a3e347159e669332d1dc14585

I've tried waiting for about 4 days and it still hasn't gone through. I'm a little worried about trying a replacement fee transaction and I haven't been able to get this approved on the via BTC accelerator. Can anyone offer any help?  I'm starting to understand this fee issue everyone has been talking about for a couple months.  ;D


Title: Re: Stuck transaction using core 15.01
Post by: xYakult on January 04, 2018, 03:57:36 AM
I submitted your transaction to AntPool's free accelerator service, hopefully they will include your transaction once they find a block or two. Tho 20sats/byte as miners fee is really low nowadays, this should get fixed asap :/


Title: Re: Stuck transaction using core 15.01
Post by: Anonymous619 on January 04, 2018, 07:50:36 AM
I'm hoping someone can help. I haven't performed a BTC transaction using core in over two years and I used the default fee like an idiot. I didn't do my multiplication right when looking at suggested fees and actually thought I was paying a high fee.

6dd64abfba3962f90d9db87756672473fed3dc8a3e347159e669332d1dc14585

I've tried waiting for about 4 days and it still hasn't gone through. I'm a little worried about trying a replacement fee transaction and I haven't been able to get this approved on the via BTC accelerator. Can anyone offer any help?  I'm starting to understand this fee issue everyone has been talking about for a couple months.  ;D
Your transaction will be confirmed in 3-5 days


Title: Re: Stuck transaction using core 15.01
Post by: Thirdspace on January 04, 2018, 01:07:35 PM
I'm a little worried about trying a replacement fee transaction ...
it's not opt-in RBF, so you can't do RBF transaction on it
just abandon your transaction and try re-send again with higher fee


Title: Re: Stuck transaction using core 15.01
Post by: sngwinner on January 04, 2018, 07:14:33 PM
I'm hoping someone can help. I haven't performed a BTC transaction using core in over two years and I used the default fee like an idiot. I didn't do my multiplication right when looking at suggested fees and actually thought I was paying a high fee.

6dd64abfba3962f90d9db87756672473fed3dc8a3e347159e669332d1dc14585

I've tried waiting for about 4 days and it still hasn't gone through. I'm a little worried about trying a replacement fee transaction and I haven't been able to get this approved on the via BTC accelerator. Can anyone offer any help?  I'm starting to understand this fee issue everyone has been talking about for a couple months.  ;D
Your transaction will be confirmed in 3-5 days
Is this 3-5 days from now or the transaction?  What is this range based on?


Title: Re: Stuck transaction using core 15.01
Post by: sngwinner on January 04, 2018, 07:15:10 PM
I'm a little worried about trying a replacement fee transaction ...
it's not opt-in RBF, so you can't do RBF transaction on it
just abandon your transaction and try re-send again with higher fee

Are there any risks associated with abandoning the transaction?


Title: Re: Stuck transaction using core 15.01
Post by: sngwinner on January 07, 2018, 09:39:50 PM
I'm bumping so I can hopefully get some advice on Child Pays for Parent.  The transaction:

6dd64abfba3962f90d9db87756672473fed3dc8a3e347159e669332d1dc14585

I sent these from my core wallet to my ledger nano S.  If I just make a transaction with my ledger nano S with a high enough fee spending the coins back to myself will this make the original transaction confirm as well as my new transaction?  What fee is recommended to ensure that this works?


Title: Re: Stuck transaction using core 15.01
Post by: Thirdspace on January 07, 2018, 10:41:19 PM
Are there any risks associated with abandoning the transaction?
no, there is no risk because all inputs are owned by you in your bitcoin core wallet, right?
just abandon it and create new tx, enable coin control so you can choose your inputs/utxo
remove this from your tx 17tesohn7oTVWt6XLM1uYN3Uo6hCUWpRX9 (0.00000001 BTC - Output)
that input just a waste to be included, its 1 sat :P and there are a few other inputs in the range 0.0001 - 0.0005
the cost sending them is higher than the amount itself
for eg. 1 utxo is 148 byte, with network fee 300 s/B it's going to cost you 44400 s/utxo
so with a fee rate of 300 s/B, anything below 45000 sats would just be a burden to your tx


Title: Re: Stuck transaction using core 15.01
Post by: sngwinner on January 07, 2018, 10:55:00 PM
Are there any risks associated with abandoning the transaction?
no, there is no risk because all inputs are owned by you in your bitcoin core wallet, right?
just abandon it and create new tx, enable coin control so you can choose your inputs/utxo
remove this from your tx 17tesohn7oTVWt6XLM1uYN3Uo6hCUWpRX9 (0.00000001 BTC - Output)
that input just a waste to be included, its 1 sat :P and there are a few other inputs in the range 0.0001 - 0.0005
the cost sending them is higher than the amount itself
for eg. 1 utxo is 148 byte, with network fee 300 s/B it's going to cost you 44400 s/utxo
so with a fee rate of 300 s/B, anything below 45000 sats would just be a burden to your tx

Right they're all owned by me.  So I abandon and then send everything but the addresses with 0.0001-0.0005.  I used an accelerator that appears to be broadcasting the transaction over and over again.  Would that cause a problem?  Would a Child pays for parent transaction be better?


Title: Re: Stuck transaction using core 15.01
Post by: Thirdspace on January 07, 2018, 11:30:28 PM
Right they're all owned by me.  So I abandon and then send everything but the addresses with 0.0001-0.0005.  I used an accelerator that appears to be broadcasting the transaction over and over again.  Would that cause a problem?  Would a Child pays for parent transaction be better?

CPFP would seem be easier for you, as long as you can set custom fee sending from your ledger
if you're going to do that and I assume fee won't burden you, set your fee base on a few data:
new tx from ledger to core is 1 input to 1 output =~ 250 bytes and current network fee~550 s/B
then 3733 + 250 =~ 4000 bytes * 550 =~ 2200000 sats - 74840 sats =~ 2125160 sats
so you must set your fee on CPFP tx as much as 0.02125 BTC ... quite expensive for me if you ask
btw, can you just send the fund from ledger to itself? I'm not familiar on how a ledger works.
I assume you want to store it back in your ledger, it would save on fees to do it directly if possible


Title: Re: Stuck transaction using core 15.01
Post by: sngwinner on January 07, 2018, 11:43:54 PM
Thanks Thirdspace.  I think this is going to be the route I need to go.  Sucks that its an expensive fee but it is what it is.


Title: Re: Stuck transaction using core 15.01
Post by: KopikoBrown on January 08, 2018, 12:26:27 AM
Try this Sir https://pool.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/pay/?txid=6dd64abfba3962f90d9db87756672473fed3dc8a3e347159e669332d1dc14585


Title: Re: Stuck transaction using core 15.01
Post by: sngwinner on January 08, 2018, 01:23:48 AM
I've tried viabtc's free service and I couldn't get my transaction in the queue.  The fee they are asking for the paid is equivalent to $500 when a child pays for parent would be $300 so I think I'll try that.  Having some difficulty with that though.


Title: Re: Stuck transaction using core 15.01
Post by: KopikoBrown on January 08, 2018, 01:34:03 AM
If i added your transaction on the queue just give me a tip email me thanks :)


Title: Re: Stuck transaction using core 15.01
Post by: Thirdspace on January 08, 2018, 10:14:59 AM
I've tried viabtc's free service and I couldn't get my transaction in the queue.  The fee they are asking for the paid is equivalent to $500 when a child pays for parent would be $300 so I think I'll try that.  Having some difficulty with that though.
you can try gamble with lower rate ~300s/B which tone down to 0.0112 BTC
with hope it will get picked up by miners in the weekend when the network fee usually drop (I heard)
I will also try add it to viabtc, if the timing is perfect and the tx gets queued,
there's a chance it gets confirmed but I can't promise you anything.


Title: Re: Stuck transaction using core 15.01
Post by: vh on January 08, 2018, 06:02:45 PM
i figured an extra person will increase the odds at viabtc for you, so i gave it a couple of tries and got through on this last hour.
tx: 6dd64abfba3962f90d9db87756672473fed3dc8a3e347159e669332d1dc14585
reply: Transaction added to acceleration queue

it should confirm on their next block.


edit: confirmed
Included In ViaBTC Block
503215 ( 2018-01-08 18:31:15 + 13,999 minutes )