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since bitcoin was introduced to me few years ago i've got this thing in mind
is gambling really about luck or can you beat the house using maths and probability?

well as for my i always YOLO bet a lot and sometimes it's working fine but most of the time it's not
i tried also using lowbets with strategy , mostly on dice autobetting, it seems fine but kinda boring, seems okay but it will bust in a time
so do you think gambling is about luck or you can beat the house with strat?

Infusing math to over come the probability of winning in the casino is a hard task, games in the casino are develop by programmers, unless you know the algorithm you might have a chance but the combination is massive.


From what i believe gambling over an an online casino is all about luck but is you gamble on an offline casino you can put some strategy there to win over the house.

As many people say, gambling can be considered 95% luck and 5% skill. Overall, its mostly about luck but with a bit of skill and calculations, you can beat the house. The point is that over the long run, the house always wins out and you must quit as soon as you make profit, no matter how small or else greed will get the better of you and the house chimes in to add to your misery.


Auto betting with a low base bet and big multipliers is always a good strategy to rely on but requires a lot of patience. With the wins, you will always be ending up with profit at through end of the day. Of course there's always chances of busting but since the chances of winning big is always a factor, taking the risk or not would be your call to make.

from that statement i feel like offline casino is better than online
well yeah at some point since ive been into offline casino too you can use so called " strategy" or plan. i tried offline strategy like martingale and seems working fine
but as the other guy said house edge always wins so better know when to stop  :)
thanks for sharing. im learning new things

You cannot beat mathematically or with probability a casino online, offline you could but you don't anymore as they have put betting limits. How you could have beat up an offline casino ? Pretty easy, you go to play roulette and place a bet always on red, out of 100 rolls, probability for it to be 100 rolls on black is mathematically impossible in real life. But unfortunately you can't because of betting limits in offline casinos and in online casino since roulette is run by software it is possible to fall 100 times on black. You simply can't beat a casino but you can have higher probability on sport betting when you take into considerations many details, statistics, form of teams, injuries, referees ,predictions sites etc.

so what do you suggest?
 i dont know if i will agree with you about "cannot beat mathematically and probability" because for me i know that we bust because we dont stop playing after we playing. house edge will come at you at some time. so for me strat and stop can beat house edge

That happens when you hit a lucky cycle and doesn't happen always, so yes you cannot beat the casino. Gambling has been with us since early stages of humanity ,yet in modern times only the people who hit the jackpot for example of 75 mln dollars can beat the casino, and this kind of persons on earth can be counted with the fingers of one hand. It is best to focus on sport betting where skill have a bigger part than luck and to stay out of gambling through luck games otherwise in the long run, you will come out in big loss. This is just my personal opinion though and maybe right or wrong but I rarely am at a loss when only playing sport betting compared to people who play dice, roulette ,slots and other luck games.

This is sad but true that gambling will just rely on luck no matter how skilled you are and the other is to cheat using your skills in gambling. Just imagine that if you throw a dice, you cannot control the movement of it to show up your desired pair numbers so it will purely rely on luck. I don't trust online dice because we don't know it that was program to always win and the one who bet will always lose.

Gambling is about luck if you will bet on house edge gambling games like dice. Strategy in this type of gambling games is just a designed to make gamblers think that it will increase their winning chance rate. That's the real score so if you hit jackpot then you are lucky.


Well if that is the case and you really want to gambled then try on strategy based games where analyzation will help you increase your winning chance rate. You can consider Sports betting and Im a long time sports bettor too. We will continue to discussed it if you want and I and even the whole community will give you some tips too for starters.

oh okay okay i got it. so basically it's more on luck and i know it very well, 95% luck 5% strat then ? haha
anyways, let's not go far from the topic and thank you so much :)
i will gather some funds and post for a tips and advice in sportsbetting

I'm a newbie when it comes gambled, there are too many gamble site now bustadice is one of that site but i did not play on it because i don't have bitcoin balance to play on. In Primedice i have also an account their since they have a free faucet to claim bitcoin in 10 satoshi then can play with it.


(oh okay okay i got it. so basically it's more on luck and i know it very well, 95% luck 5% strat then ? haha)


Hahaha thanks for that calculation i think 80%luck and the rest is strat.

I almost can't believe this question has been asked so many times here, since the answer is easily found and pretty logical when you think about it.
Of course you can't beat the casino with a certain strategy, at least if we're talking about games where the house has an edge over you, which I assume you're talking about.

How would the casino make any profit if they were hosting games that allows players to beat them, just by choosing a certain strategy.

You can find strategies that will make you lose less money, but in the long run you cannot beat the house edge.

dude look on the comments above :) they said playing with faucet in an online casino is waste of time and they wont let you withdraw it most of the sites because they made faucet just for testing the site and for the depositors who bust will have at least something to play :)
read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2687435.msg27460281#msg27460281

Gambling is a hard thing that need to have more patientce and self control to make sure that you will not become so greedy to get thier money until you lose all. We must say that gambling is a luck because you should not know what is the game flow.all you need is wait for the good time .

I simply skip the math part and try not to think too much. Just start rolling with reasonable payouts (% chance) and hope for the best. Been lucky with gambling so far. I usually use payouts of x1.5 up to x3, works fine so far (for 1.5 year now). I also try to place flat bets most of the time and try to catch good streaks with higher bets. Using martingale for example suck as you catch winning streaks with your base bets and a bad streak will always catch you eventually if you don't set limits.

How to beat the casino? >> Withdraw on profit and set limits. Don't be greedy. You don't have to win the whole freaking casino's bankroll  :o ::)

Good strategy + yolo bet + large bankroll with those i am sure you will be able to beat it. But of course there will always be the "not my day". In my days in gambling if am going to add all my green and red stats in every sites that i was playing in the past the result is i am still in positive. Because i learned how to stop whenever i won or whenever i am losing.

Gambling is all down to luck you can try all sorts of systems involving probability and maths but most wins are still going to be from luck. Sports betting on the other hand has an element of skill and knowledge of the said sport you are betting on but luck will always be a big factor.

Any game in gambling is all about luck but there are some games that also needs strategy but there are other games that pure luck.
So if you are planning to do math its impossible to beat the house.
So just gamble that you can afford to lose and just enjoy the game since gambling are made for entertainment purposes..
And it would be hard to win honestly base on my experience in the first attempt you can be win if you don't stop or you don't satisfied there is a high chance that you can be still continue to increase your win but in the end you will be still lose..

There is no way to beat a casino just by using math. Math will actually tell you that you can't beat the house. The fact of the matter is, you don't have unlimited bankroll to be able to pull off a martin gale system nor can you bet with unlimited limits nor can you play without house edge. All gambling games are negative expected value, meaning each time you bet you actually lose something if you average everything out and compute it for the long run.

You can beat the house if you have more money then the house you wish to beat. You talk about strategies but you play dices, that is game where you need to risk a lot to win a lot, and when you do that more times you will lose then you can win. You need to concentrate on games where you have more chances for winning and that is sports betting and poker, and maybe black jack. Poker and betting on sports are gambling games where you have the highest chances for winning, before you experiment more with lucky games try this two games. Black jack is half half, you can try to count cards if you can but it's not easy.

I think they are just finding ways to think about posts and just posts it anyway even if there are a lot of posts already done. It's only a simple question and it has also been answered here many times.  Anyways, it's the person itself would depend on the decisions, so whether or not you have a strategy, it helps you increase your chances of winning instead of plain gambling.

It can be a way only in luck but still there's a strategy in every gambling here and in math also,usually if you play dice you will bet in that low at first then add just a little to have profit and sometimes you need to bet 3x high so you need to calculate that for more good when you play.I think also you need big btc here when you play because it depends in that or how far can you bet.

Yeah right, that's what I think. Your opinion is exactly the same as I mean, hahaha. I think most of the gambling games need luck. You must be really lucky if you want to gamble. With that luck you can also win a lot of money. But I heard, there are some gambling games you can play with the right math, strategy, and calculation formula. I do not really know about gambling like that, because for me all the gambling takes the luck. But I heard that poker game can be manipulated and we can count the cards in order to win. It's just that smart people can do that. And the casino will definitely ban it.

It's always best to play what you can afford to lose.
A good strategy with Bitcoin and other coins is to earn some by either gambling, casino, sports betting, trading, signature campaigns, and then play with these coins earned, if you lose too bad, if you win this is a great bonus to enjoy.
For instance playing at https://bitvest.io is a fun experience, this platform is supporting several coins as well.

Well, Gambling is really based on luck (98%) and somehow experience.Though, If we are to use math and probability it would need a lot of work such as Algorithm and stuff or decoding.


There are some people who definitely formulated a code that beat the house. Though, as soon as the owner discover some unfamiliar movement in their system they normally ban those account or IP. Hence, Owners are now also equipped with enough barriers or walls to defend their sites. To make it impossible for them to be breached. But the idea of Gambling is luck based since no matter how smart you are or talented you are, Luck will still decide your fortune.

I think gambling is about luck and maybe sometimes we can beat the house but we cannot always beat it. we need a big luck to beat the house that no one has this. no matter how good strategy you have or how good your skill in gambling, you still cannot beat the house and only lose your money in the end. this is about how to control your emotion when you can win a big money which not every people can do and you should understand about it.

I couldn't agree more with alisafidel58. It's true that math is incorporated with gambling and this is done to make it more challenging and not to win easier. For you to solve the math behind games would take a lot of turns because it is programmed to have a lot of permutations or even algorithms that are difficult to make the game exciting. I always feel that when I gamble, I am nearing to a win but the truth is that it just gives you the anticipating feeling to make you go for more. Gambling is mostly about chances for you to get in the right situation to win. Some strategies may be implored but chance plays a bigger role in most of it.

There are some games that are really based on  pure luck like slots, dice, roulette etc you can build your strategy in betting but most of the time I am pretty sure the house will always win. I think hitting a jackpot in slots or dice will be 1 in a million.

Now there are also games that need some skills like card games, dominoes , majhong etc .
Some other  games also require guts and personality reading like Poker.

That is why there are professional poker players but no professional slot machine players.

Gambling is a luck!  And you should pray for the gods of gamblers to be in your favor if not the odd is always again you. I have tried several times without making a dam and I think some people are very fortune to make money through gambling. We should see gambling as a game play for fun of it and not for profit making venture except the house.

It's actually depend on which kind of gambling you gamble though. If it's about dice and other games that have provably fair, it's all about luck but if you talk about sports betting, luck is not that big in this sports betting. Strategy, informations, which player is injured and many else things are more important to know than a luck.

Basically yes, when you are playing those games that are fully dedicated with luck then it's all about your luck but if you'll try to play those games that aren't only luck base but also includes some knowledge and analysis then it's not just all about luck. I don't know if that is possible to beat the house with those things but everyone will be answering here that it's a no. But if you'll try to search or google about other type of gambling which is lottery, a math teacher did won those lucky combinations.

Gambling really depends on your luck and there's no mathematical solution for this. this is very risky, because even you pray for Gods of what if you meant to loose money you will surely loose it. Gambling is really made for fun, but some people are just being greed to make money until they ruin they are life just to gamble.

Math itself says that you will lose 1% of what you're betting(in most sites as they have 1% edge), no matter what strat you are using, in the long run. So no, there is no surefire way to know if you'll win or lose the next bet. The best thing would be to not gamble at all, as you would still be at 0% win or loss, with the second best way being withdrawing while you're ahead.

is gambling really about luck or can you beat the house using maths and probability?

For your kind information , there is no such possible way to cheat the system of house edge , remember you are human and they are automatic robots , its not the match question we can solve it , its purely luck based game some time it works some time you lost all the funds.You must know how to play that particular game and whats are the rules and regulations if you play for time, once you understand that seed how you won or not you may bypass house edje for some time not permanently.

No you can't. With the knowledge of maths and probability all you can do is realise the invincibility of the house.
Maths is always in favour of the house result of which is the house edge. This is in reference to dice and other provabily fair games.
You can increase your chances of winning in skill based games like poker but then again cracking this isn't possible until you decide to cheat.
If there was a way to airways win in any of the games I would soon get patched. These games have evolved through so many years, fixing all their loopholes

If there is a mathematical solution, then it would be easy to win and be rich just because of gambling.A lot of smart people would have cracked the secret in winning games and hopefully, you would too. There's no assurance but it's best to not expect the winnings because you might get disappointed in the long run.

How is this question even related to bitcoin? This is a normal question that every gambler always has on his mind, and answer is its always down to luck, by maths and probability you're referring to martingale theory many have tried, many have failed some lucky one's have made a killing to. So it's more about luck than any other things in this world, I don't think maths really plays that big role.

I think all is about luck, you can count all using math and probability, but if we think it, the chances of winning is not depend on streak bet, but each of the bet is independent, and if maths works in gambling I think somebody will already win a lot

Well I think gambling is not fully about luck but it depends on what game are you playing/ in what way are you betting. If you are playing games like roulette or something I think it would totally depend on your luck. But, if you are betting at some sports betting sites like cricket match betting, football betting,e-sports betting, etc. you would require something more than just luck, which would be- knowledge about the game and also about the teams.

Yes, your strategy can give you some luck to win for a while, but the truth is that if you feel too comfortable, there is just no way you cannot get burnt at the end of the day. A lot of people have used different type of strategies, but the house edge already know that and they have a way of trying to get all your winnings back, including your funds just by countering it with some long streak of losses.

For me I believe gambling is really about luck there are certain times that you will win even how bad your bet are and lose when luck goes out of your way. This is how I see gambling no math or technique will ever help you to win because if that is possible I don't even think people will experience lose from betting and I'm sure no casino will evermake it to remain strong because they cannot sustain the amount of winnings

There's no strategy that could work for long time as once it's caught (gets observed already by the house once you start using it, that's where the foul play takes place and they start adjusting the numbers for future bets that makes us lose). As well, most sites are rigged probably so the probability of winning with our mathematics will always remain comparatively low to house's win. Best is when we see winning, we should stop at some point and get back another day as you can't eat everything at a go.

I believe its all about luck because no matter any strategy you intend to add in your gambling, you can't bet the setup of casino or gambling sites. Some of all this gambling Sites have programmed their set for some certain wining and shouldn't pass some minimum or maximum of that price. In good sites like Bitstraz, Bustadice or Bitcasino, you will be quite sure your luck and effort might payoff, without manipulations.

More strategies can lead to more losses, and I think no one will argue of that statements because that's a real situations of most of the gamblers way. If we are expecting lucky profits as always, then we must work for it like trading or any investments but with gambling I only knew it for just a fun game and nothing else to be more serious about it. But we couldn't dictate anybody our of their innocence because that's a long process to do suggesting them the do's and don'ts due to more addicted gambler were really bonded to this type of habits.

Your probability and mathematical skills can only work a little bit or give you an edge somehow, but there is just no way you would not have to depend mostly on luck because that is the only way you can win so much but even at that, if you do not give yourself some brains, you will still end up losing all anyway.

The truth is that the house cannot be beaten and if everyone could have, we would all have been rich by now doing nothing but auto playing.

The real point is that the house could not be beaten. In rare cases we will see it if the house loses it to someone. Usually more than 90% of the bets are won by the house. Even using brain will not let you go for a win to withdraw. I guess it's not only about the winning, till you don't withdraw it to your account you still a chance to lose all.

It really depends on what king of game you are playing. I can say that slots needs more on luck than strategy while table games like poker, bacarat and etc needs strategy to win. I usually played poker and strategy is a must though ofcourse a little bit of luck can be considered.

The house can be beaten, that's the nature of games, there are losers and winners. The point really is that the house eventually wins. Even if we presume to only play where there is zero house edge or even an edge to the player - and these do exist especially with crypto, I can think at least of crypto-games.net where the lottery is positive EV - you can always count on the gambler to eventually return to play, and eventually lose... that is the Gambler's way. Variance is heavily sided with the house, whose bankroll dwarfs that of any player. And should a player have a virtually limitless bankroll - the limits set by the house prevents a drawn-out strategy.

That's why the so-called professional gamblers stick to tournaments, trying to win a prize pot. They're playing against other players, trying to outdo them with skill and riding their luck when it comes. The eventual winners here still is the house - rakeback, commissions, fees.

Well, I think in gambling we need maths and probability because skills and knowledge can also make us win the game but luck is more great because even though you do all and use all your knowledge if you are not lucky enough in that day well you will absolutely the loser.

Agree, somewhat mostly house will always win , i dont think if it is bias or im just unlucky to win those games because sometimes we could really win a lot and also we could do a lot of winning streak because we are in luck on that day though there are really days that is really bad to us that keep us lossing. If you are not yet withdrawing your money on gamble sites it is more likely that you will loose it too because you are tempted to bet it again .

Gambling is more about luck in almost every platform. Skill is required to reduce these risks. If you plan and bet risks are usually much lesser but so are the profits, but overall it's better than losing everything due to bad luck. Random betting leads to more losses in the long run rather than profits in most of the cases.

Gambling always has based on luck, there are some gambling game needs startegy but you still need some luck for you to win in a game. Sometimes even if how professional you are in playing gambling you can still lose some of the time.

Gambling isn't based on luck, its the game of winning and losing and waiting for the perfect hand. Casinos would stop working if their business is based on luck, they make money on people greediness. Let me ask you important question who brings more money to casino regular gamblers or high rollers? It's not about are you professional or not, you will always encounter with loses, in gambling you need to have money to try again and cool head to continue and not be distracted after losing money.

Well it isn't definitely based on luck, but it is definitely a factor when you are playing a game of chance. I don't understand why casinos would stop working when it is based on luck? It is the chance where you cannot know how to control success entirely, and you can never do that anyway there are no assurances of it even if you have rituals or something like that.

as far as i know it was never done before that there was people able to beat the house using maths and how many time you were calculate the probability and how many times you using different strategies to increase your winning chance in gambling but the final results is depend on your luck and we already discuss about this with many times

Always putout on your mind that beating up the house is nearly-impossible with just using those traditional strategies which doesnt really work at all. You can beat up the house but on rare cases on when extreme luck is on your side which you can able to hit up big wins and make negative profits on house but these kind of cases are really very rare to see off and to see that you are a YOLO gambler then better to stop as early as you can if you dont like to mess out your entire life because of gambling.

Exactly, most of the successful ones are just pure luck and chance that came their way and mathematics by itself alone hasn't contributed to the outcome of how a gamble might turn out. You can make guesses but there is no single formula that is going to work every time hence its pure luck.

House always Wins. Remember that.

In order to know why house will never lose, you need maths and probability. There's this House Edge which is calculated by Maths, which shows that on a long run, House is at profit.
You can use probability to work out your way in Games like Poker but still, You do need luck in order to win, Probability can only help you play intelligently.

Think yourself, Why would Casinos run when their profit was based on Luck ;)

Gambler especially the operator or the owner of gambling business always promoting playing gambling is exciting and have good benefits get if the player got the winning money on that way they convince people to play gambling site but people addicted in gambling catch this opportunity but in end go home with nothing.
I suggest do not play gambling without control yourself and your  money is on the very risk.
Playing gambling fun or to relax them self to out in the stress but losing a lot of money are very stressful.

There's no doubt that luck are the most important instrument, anything like strategy, winning way etc all of them are just bullshit and delusional. Realistically you will never receive a good effects after you do gamble. End of story 1% feel happy, 99% feel regretful.

You cannot beat the house with math and probabilities since those are the weapons the house is using against you, remember they are the owners and they make the rules, unless they are dumb they are not going to create games where the user has any advantage so accept the fact you are not going to win.

I heard that if you have a lot of money and can double your bet 50 times, then you will win long term. That is why you will lose in brick and mortar casinos, because your max bet is limited and min bet is relatively high. But why do you want to beat the house? Why not try to beat the players while playing poker? And there are also skilled people winning in sports betting.

Choosing the right game for you is really important and if it you are playing skilled based games then you have a chance to be a successful long term gambler. Most of the gamblers has no idea about what is skilled based and luck based and most of them are doing luck based games as it's more easy and has a higher payout but they didn't realize that the winning chances is very low that is why casinos are always making money.

Most gamblers would really able to tell the difference but the thirst for more money is always there thats why we do easily switch and choose luck based games and its really true that earning potential on those games can really be more higher and much better compared on skill-based most of the time and not only that.Results are instant too which we do really like to see but without even thinking that it isnt really mean for long term.

gambling can be said to be a very risky job.
addiction, stress, go bankrupt to go crazy.
it is a risk that can be obtained from gambling.
therefore you must know everything about gambling

OP can only expect to have short-term profits and long-term losses. What amazes me the most is how often people keep opening these threads to ask if some strategies against the house work, after all the times that has been discussed here and with all the info available out there.

No, they don’t work.

Well for start, gambling should always be about having fun and staying on the eadge of your seat waiting for results, and not a way to make a constant income, because than you would feel like you have to gamble not you want to, and that where the addiction starts, it is true that you can make mathematical assumptions and predict the results in certain games, like counting in poker, but sometimes it does not go as planned because there is some luck involved into it, but that takes away the flavor of gambling.

You can beat the house mostly by luck since it was dice but you can also beat it by strat, different invented strat by yourself of course and just change it always coz there's no strat that works all the time, assuming you really had that a lot of strat.

I am not thinking becasue i believe on it that gambling is about luck game and second it is hard to beat the house becasue i learn the lesson from my gambling experience that you can't beat the house and house always win. So we just play gambling behalf of our luck and strategy wise but in the end it is final that house always win.  

Online casinos are also limiting the max bet amount. And what adds more insult to injury is that they are now limiting the minimum bet amount too. A few years ago you could start your martingale sequence of losses at the lowest possible value, for example, 1 satoshi if we are talking about Bitcoin here. This is no longer the case now, therefore you just can't double your bets 50 times in a row. Casino owners aren't fools.

But even if you could start at 1 satoshi, you would run out of bitcoins at the last steps. I mean all bitcoins mined to date.

What a nice joke you said my friend. I can’t stop my laugh. I have heard from gamblers that gambling is a pure luck based thing and math can never help you win the game. If a person who is good in math can win every game, then why they are not the richest ones in gambling? The reality is that they also know that gambling is purely luck dependent thing and you have nothing beside luck in gambling which can prove you valuable.

YOLO is a good strategy if you ask me. I like your way of thinking. Personally, I do not believe in luck. The latter is commonly known because people do not want to assume their responsibilities. So if I got, for example, a bad mark on an exam, I would be like " I was unlucky."

Gambling does require decision making skills. It is not easy to make a wise and valid decision that you will not regret. It also requires internal skills that are related to making good strategies, and so on. And even if I lost, I would blame myself for losing because I made myself lose.

Even you will think of it for so many times there's no way to beat the house even with Math's, statistics and probability. YOLO means you are like going to bet or stake the remaining you got. And if you find low betting as a boring thing then increase it according to your entertainment level. It's your money and if you lose, it's your money too and that's how I gamble, betting with lower amount.

Gambler's now just play depending on what just they think possible to win, i mean most of the time just trying and pushing their luck. Most of us just want to play to even win atleast few bucks since we think were lucky that day, but Gambler's way really should be know how to react whatever situation they are in, how to cope on loses and how to enjoy winnings.

You should start to think Bitcoin as real money and not the coin that can only be used in gambling.

If you are playing in probably fair casino than yes your luck decide your winnings or loss or better to say the rule of probability come into play. There is no way to beat house expect if there is some loop hole in their games.

What is YOLO, by the way?

It seems to be an acronym for the "you only live once" phrase, but how it can be a strategy in gambling? Anyone care to explain? In respect to your other point about not believing in luck, I'm inclined to think that it is not a very wise approach in life at large. Indeed, you can't hope for luck all the time and still less rely on it, gambling aside, but you shouldn't discard it either. It is a possibility which is always there, and when it finally comes your way, you shouldn't think twice. Grab it and run! And don't look back!

Gambling has and will always be about luck and nothing else, there are times when strategy can be applied and it sometimes work but that doesn't seem to work at all times. SO its all about chance and luck in the end.

So many people who thought they could beat the house edge are seriously regretting it right now and wish they just held their funds in their wallet than dashing it out to online casino owners. It is all about luck and no matter the strategy you have to make use of in any type of game you want to play; you just can never beat the house edge.

A gambler's way could be just entering gambling and spending money and enjoying the most up to the level he is able to. Yes, it will be very much similar to watching and enjoying a thriller movie by spending some money for it.

Luck is not much better, when people lose they attribute their losses to their luck, when it was just the most likely outcome to happen that night then when they win they thought they were lucky and keep playing the game, so gamblers use luck as a way to think they can beat the house and we know that is not true either.

It is really hard to beat the house with math and probability since.. probability wise, house have an edge .  But I believe with proper control and good timing, we are able to beat the house.  Just like what I always do in yobit.  I do martingale and wait till I got 7 consecutive loses and win.  After that I stop bagging the won Bitcoin.  It is hard but it is doable.

Only few of the games require and strategy works rest its a luck which decides your fate of whether you will win or lose the game .Soemtimes this simple things are not understood and due to which they keep playing and keep losing the money.

Yolo isn't a strategy for me lol , it is a form of desperate yeaaa that's what i can see and feel.
As i have experienced it several times , get the losing streaks and decide to bet the whole amount.
In the end it is all about luck , not really a strategy, i don't believe on something like that

I think gambling is really about luck and making maths or any strategy will not work unless you can cheat the system and put some bugs on those betting site but in any way I don't think it can be done. When you gamble you make analysis to choose the best bet some maybe good on it but most of people who wins I think are only lucky enough

but for me, I prefer with the game base luck because sometimes I feel I cannot make a good strategy and besides that, I realize that I don't like a game with strategy. I like the simplicity of the game and feel I can play in anytime without confuse to make a strategy and if I have more time, maybe I will stay for more than one hour.

It is not really hard to beat the house, it is more like impossible.
You can't beat the house at the long term,the math and the probability is on the house's side,which means that if you will gamble unlimited amount of time, by math, you will always end up losing ALL of your money.

Martingale works only if you have an amount that is close to Unlimited money, that makes you to have a lose precentage that is close to 0%, but most of the online casinos set up a minimum bet and they won't let you bet low at flip coins bet(50/50), so the strategy won't be able to work.
Casinos are aware of all the tricks and they are simply blocking them all.

This is incorrect you are talking about nothing else but the martingale progression of bets, but at the end it does not matter how much money you have and how many losses you can take at some point you are going to lose, many people think that losing 50 times in a row is impossible but if you play long enough it will happen.

It is impossible to beat the house with strats along.
You would need a bit of luck as well. ;)

You need to use a little of both and at various times.
This is the trick at gambling. Cause you never know when to use what and when the house is at the disadvantage.

My father is a gambling master before since l am a child, he got a lot of techniques to win the game. He  got a lot of ways to win the game. He used to study and practice every day for him to win every  game. If a gambler is a smart he got the authority when to stop the game, so that he will go home as a winner. Bigtime gambling like casino has no lose. They profit everyday, they will not promote this if they will not earn a big profit. Because I've meet a bigtime gambler and shared to me how he profit every day, it's a big amount of money.

That's why you need to make sure of the things that you are doing. For example if you are experienced with the gambling you are doing then you would know what to do when you are with that kind of situation. You can never be sure with gambling, that's why it's a risk.

I'm somehow a less risk-taker type. Gambling is just so risky and I can't afford to loose a big amount of money. I believe there are strategies on doing it. But the ratio of chances of winning is quite so high. Well, its ok to gamble as long as you know the risks it will have.

If you are a less risk taker then I suggest you try something else and definitely not gambling. You are right that gambling is a risky game and after all its supposed to be done for entertainment and not for making money. Again you are wrong about strategies - in EV- games end of the day the casino always wins. On the other hand EV+ games can be profitable albeit by a slight degree only.

Still considering the risk at hand and the rising bitcoin price in future gambling is not something I suggest.

I think gambling would mostly be on the luck side and luck will always win against any statistics that we have. Those probabilities are endless but luck will just be arpund the corner. So if you are having that YOLO thing when you're gambling then it might lead you to failure on your finances for luck might not always be by your side

The gambler's way are always remain as a typical one from rest of people's preferences and choices. A hard working man will see his money in greater different view compared to how a gambler do see his money. The life style and how they earn and spend money decides everything in my opinion.

But, the same behaviors alone the root cause for aggressiveness of gamblers to spend all his money like a mad and finally ending up his life too. I like to suggest all the gamblers not to have any unique gambling style or life style due to gambling. Because, leading a normal life itself must be a God's blessing and gift.

Hahaha! LOL, but I agree, what is the reason why casinos will stop working when it is based on luck? There is no related on that reason I think. And that is too unreasonable for them to stop working. LOL. Anyways it is depended on us if we believe or not in luck.

Yes, that's was true. Even though we use all of our knowledge and skills but if you are truly not lucky enough that day even though you give all of your strength just only to win you will not going to win the game.

No, it is all about math and probability so if you are math teacher/Stephen Hawking/etc  you will beat casino and you will become millionaire over night.
What do you think, of course it is all about luck, "winning strategy" doesn't exist. ::)
About yolo - sometimes is better to do few bigger bets than lots of small ones, in the long run result should remain the same because of house edge, but you will be very sorry if you place very small bet and hit very high multiplier.

What it happens is that people do not lose hoe that they somehow are going to be able to find a way to make easy money we know that is not possible but some people will try anyway to try to get money out of the casinos despite our warnings and then when they lose they accuse the casinos of cheating when they are the only ones to blame.

We cannot blame their behaviors as that is how human's basic emotions will work when they need some help desperately. A gambler's way always includes finding strategy for making money and for avoiding losses. If they get some profits from gambling then they will go for another powerful strategy for making more profits at the same time if they face losses then they will start accusing houses on probable house's tricks.

When a gambler's way is only focusing on how to enjoy with minimum spending then gamblers can find maximum benefits from gambling. These maximum benefits may include financial as well emotion benefits.

Wining chances for me is slim especially in various games which is full of luck based games. Unless you play the poker or some strategy game where you can win it is difficult to make money in gambling. The chance of losing is always higher than winning it.

Is this gambling btc?

I so agree that gambling is more on luck than skills most especially when you are on slots and dice. Though there are also games or table games that need strategy such as poker, top of the list on my favorite game. Poker needs strategy and math to beat the opponent and luck is always present in gambling.

Though there are indeed strategies that can make one win whiles betting, they are actually not 100% to win at all, so luck is therefore the most important thing when gambling that's why people are so superstitious when it comes to gambling.

The house in the gambling always has the advantage over the player. We have all atleast tried once to calculate mathematically how to beat the casino we are playing in. The real truth is that there is actually no real strategy that can guarantee your win. Luck is the main factor that is deciding on your wins in the end. Winning streaks can lead you to false beliefs that can shade your mind into thinking that you have found the right system to beat the house. After that few wins, there eventually comes the big loss if you haven't cashed in on time or if your greed has prevailed.
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Gambling is depending on the luck that is defining the usage of the gambling games!

gambling is a pure luck.  you cannot beat the house on a longer run. sometimes you may win. but on a longer run if you keep gambling again and again, you will end up losing. if you are gambling you should know your limits and never be greedy.

Exactly, gambling is not about earning money sometimes we may win money since we get lucky but most of the time that kind of thinking leads you to lose your money, in fact those that look for a way to make money in gambling lose more money than those that are just trying to have a good time.

Indeed, I think gambling is not really appropriate on earning because it is all about in luck yet, there's a low probability for you to win there. Gambling is just for entertainment and actually sometimes you will not be happy because you are frustrated for your loss. Gambling will be only beneficialif you were the owner because it is a profit.

Yeah that's the way gambling always make you feel awful, the winning you've ever achieved always less than what you've lost. Guess that is the fact but people ignore it and just looking for the luck with tiny odds to get a huge prize, that's okay as long as you didn't addicted or do it continuously.

But come to think off that chasing up loses and aiming for profits continuously would really end up on getting addicted since you are neglecting the risk of losing even more. You do play just for the sake on achieving that small winnings but there are circumstances that we might win big but just on slim chances only.This is why we should treat gambling as way as it should.

Winning chances always less in all type of games, not various games. You win in various games because of you use strategy and then you beat the house to win and if you don't use strategy then of course you can't win in every game. So for me, strategy is important thing in gambling, but most of the time our strategy not working it is becasue we have no enough luck and that's why we have no enough winning in gambling. Gambling give us winning because of luck.   

I believe that every game in gambling needs pure luck, we can say that we have a great strategy for the games based strategy but without having a luck then we cannot win the games. this will do the same for the games that based on luck only. we should know about the risk before we place a bet so we don't have to expect to win the games and we should know that we risk our money to win the games but all in all, we really need the luck to win.

In EV+ games you can make your own strategy and use them to outsmart the opponent specially where its PvP game. Once you can also try the sports betting in case you feel confident about any team and their performance. However I would say sports betting is tough if the matches are fixed which in many cases it seems they are.


Yes this is a bitcoin forum and this is the "gambling discussion" section. ;)

I know people who claim they can get consistent profits with sports betting by using a sort of arbitrage between different bookmakers. I didn't try it myself and honestly I don't even quite understand how this approach actually works, so take it for what it's worth. I suspect it works in the same way as with currency arbitrage. You take notice of small discrepancies between prices at two different exchanges and use them to your advantage, buying and selling the same currency at both exchanges simultaneously. It seems that similar approach can be used with sports bets too, now in respect to your stakes.

Luck is the best arm in gambling since I was not believe in hunch. Other than that I believe to my own strategies during playing gambling. That's why most of the time I gambled I choose to played cards like poker because in this game I always make strategy on how can I defeat my opponents. Also I learn how to bluff my enemy to show their card and read their mind.

I really do believe that if you're lucky enough to win the game, you can win it no matter what! Because gambling is about Luck and Skills. You can also apply your skills while you're playing gambling in order to win also the game but luck is the best you can have to win the game. Their are some people or a gamblers that are really good enough when about using skills but they are not enough lucky So, sometimes in order to win they need to use their skills on playing gambling.

Luck and skill cannot decide the results in gambling together. You need to select few gambling types where you can engage your skill to make desired results and in most other gambling types are just a luck-based where you can never use your skill to make any positive results with them.

In my experience luck alone will be deciding the gambler's fate hence when a gambler is always about making more profits then there will be no meaning of putting efforts into gambling to design as their own way of gambling.

As long as you play occasionally then there is no problem with gambling the problem is that many people become obsessed first with trying to get the money they lost back and then they just get obsessed with gambling in itself and that is when they reach the point where they are fully addicted.

Playing gambling for the very first time do potentially contribute for you to become addicted later on because some people wont really easily moved on  on the money that have been lost by playing which would really cause for you to play and would pile up even more loses which would end up for you to play on constant because you are already chasing the money have been wasted.

True, this strategy is just for a time being.  Try to run it continously and you will se how your bankroll drop.   I have been in an auto roll for more than a day and I see how the house edge kicks in.  This somehow nullified by martingale as long as you have a bankroll to accomodate the increase else you will be seeing your winnings to drop instantly when you are hit by series  of reds.. ( losing streak) and your bankroll can't accomodate the next increment.  And to sum it up.. there is no fix strategy to beat the house :P.

Every strategy has their advantage in a particular situation, and you would never know the result but using a grand approach can mean that you could win. It would be hard to rely on it but at least you did something to increase your chances.

That's what I mean , you should only use small amount so whenever you lost it all it won't be a big deal , a lot of case where someone put huge amount in hope to get a little profit on a high chance but hey it's gambling even when you choose a 80% winning chance you can have a losing streaks on it, better to put $10 to get $1,000 right? Lost it? That's okay , won it? That's the fortune in gambling.

I'm curious why people are still believing in martingale? It is one of the surest way to lose your coins at the end of the day. It may work in theory with no limits on max bets, but this is never the case in real life in real casinos because otherwise a big whale could easily ruin them by always adding to his next bet. But if there is a max bet amount in place, with each losing roll the casino's bankroll will be growing while yours shrinking. And the longer you play, the sooner the house edge will kick in.

Theory is nothing but what is we are experiencing in real life. In my opinion there could be no possibility of continuous losing streak anywhere to happen. If we are using martingale strategy in real life then you could definitely crack profits but unfortunately most of the gambling houses are not allowing you to escape that is the reason you are facing continuous long losing streaks.

The gambler's way could be anything and it may consist of any different strategies too still it could be followed all the times only when those strategies collectively giving more profits than losses. Martingale must be one of them it will cover losses in one single bet.

People complain too much about Martingale because it's the most popular strategy. But if we think about any other strategy, seems they are similar or worse than Martingale... The gambler's way is the way to the total loss if he sees gambling as a money making method. Gambling plays with people's minds and their imagination, those who don't have their feet on the floor will be totally drained by the loss streak avalanche.

Strategies help temporarily and their effect duration is random for everyone. If you can't lose money or aren't prepared to lose money, stay away or play low.

Its impossible to beat the house with Mathematics, statics and probability. If you aim to beat them then just be with your luck then but the question is how can you be with your luck? Something that cannot be seen and predicted is hard to assume that you can beat them.
Basing on their experience so they still trust martingale, I tried it before but as you said I lost. If they are lucky to use martingale strategy then let them use it, they are simply lucky with that strategy and we are not.

Getting lucky is not a thing, while you may win several times in a row and end the session with some profits that is not sustainable since you have no control over your luck and the longer you play the closer you are going to be to the real probabilities of the game, so forget to use your luck to win because it is something outside of your control.

Sorry for my possible ignorance here, I'm not a mathematician or statistician, for the record, but do you mean that there are strategies or group of strategies that would allow you to beat the house? As I got it from my own small experience and from what others say, even what casino owners themselves say, in the end it all comes down to pure luck versus house edge.

To say it differently, it is impossible to win unless you have luck by your side, and so no strategy can really help you there. Am I wrong?

Correct gambling is pure luck based and math cant helps you to beat the casino, no one can beat the house because they have huge amount of capital and other says that their site has a script to limit the amount of profit every account for users that is why if you already reach that you can not get anymore profit from the casino.

Technically you can defeat the gambling site as for example look at some dice games where you can adjust the rate of percentage on how you can win. By adjusting it you can either increase or decrease your chances of winning but by doing so you are also changing how much you will win. But at the end you will still see that even if you have a high percentage of winning you can still lose as it is still based on luck. Luck is the one needed in order for you to win games and without it you will be losing a lot of money.

strategy that is accompanied by luck will be more promising victory for us to earn. but I am sure if we are able to analyze well any ongoing gambling we can certainly win many turns of every gamble. very high expectations to be able to live from gambling

Limitations of those casinos/gambling sites is always there since these things are businesses which owners would be normally setting those precautionary measures to avoid bankruptcy or too much loss profits on their business and there might be some lucky days that you can make negative on the house but not all the times because on all of the gamblers who do play on a certain day those loses can easily be patch up and this is why gambling is a profitable business.

I agree with you especially with the strategy that you are willing to do because it will definitely increase your chances in winning and with luck that's definitely going to be a win.. definitely it won't be a sure thing but still you have done something that could be worth. I think you shouldn't accept that you don't know what to do You should research and do your own thing.

No matter what way we choose the house will always win. They have their own random program with rigged slots designed to give you the lowest possible odds. They try to give you some fair chance at first to get you hooked and them slowly you’ll realize that what you have is getting lower and lower and the house’s stocks go higher and higher and its too late to go back

That's why don't let too hooked in gambling, playing regularly will not always lead to a good catch, play when you feel luck is with you or when it seems you're missing playing it, playing it regularly somehow changes the game flow. So just feel the thrill and enjoys it as much as possible. I usually play at night when I feel too exhausted in my work. It magically help me to relieve stress especially when I hit some jackpot on slot.  :D

Are you refering to the movie 21 , where every card signifies numbers, or stat maybe, should be memorized and hack the game. Maybe it will applicable also to online gaming where series of codes were made and can be hacked also. Gambling is a pure luck and i think you dont need to cheat just to win. The fun will be lost in that way.

indeed gambling relies on luck,and no one can win without luck unless you cheat.the essence of gambling is to make fun,thats why the ratio of win and loss are two different..if you dont want to lose dont gamble,if this really true,since this movie becomes popular i think all of the experienced gambler will make this as reference to break the table and take all the bankers money

Well in my own opinion hacking the game is only in the movie if there will be a so called hacker in that game well he use his mind there he use math right? he use his skills, he use his knowledge about gambling so it is not hack but it is skills. I believe that luck really exist when one person is winning the game. Because even though we already know what we do and we have already knowledge about it if the card is really disaster you will going to lose the game.

I have had many of those not my day moments in the past.
But I do believe if you keep at it and have a "cut off" point you set up before you start your marathon as most people have put inorder to actually win something at the end of your run, you will eventually walk away a winner.

It just takes being consistent and sticking to your original plan you set up for yourself to strive for and not to deviate from it for anything such as being on a "winning streak". Because those always run out of juice at the exact wrong time when you are about to reach that goal you setup in the first place. :-X

If it's done online, it can be hacked. There have been many online gambling sites that fell victim to hackers in the past.  And good luck decoding gambling sites as well. They know how to draw people in and suck their money. Sometimes i think some gambling sites deserved it when they get hacked.

but we need to know pupa some obstacles that often occur when we are gambling. one of those emotions that always explode when we gamble. and that usually leads us to defeat. I really hope that bitcoin gambling can be the point where we start gambling very well and safely

So you want to cheat and beat the house? Many hackers can even hack government sites so i think it is possible that different codes can beat the house. If you do this , it is not considered gambling but rather theft. Its fun to risk your money just by using your luck. Why just dont try that.

Well just like how gambling move in real life luck is always the key to success math and strategies can make your game more favorable but still no assurance to always work. Martingale for example, using this method is very effective for slow yet safe profitting but as we all know bankroll must be enough to endure long losing streak and it wont be fun seeing how fast your bankroll refuce every loss and how small profit enter every win.

It is a hard task. Hacking government sites may not bring you instant profits or any profits at all, for that matter. And really important sites are very well protected anyway, so it is not easy money for script kiddies. On the flip side though, there were numerous cases when you didn't have to hack anything in an online casino. You should just have been attentive enough to notice both subtle discrepancies and similarities between outcomes where should be none as well as flaws in the betting engine that would allow you to take advantage over the casino.

Of course it also revolves around probability and mathematical solving prowess but that is why it is rigged to some extent so that players would be dissuaded on using it because the probability is skewed slightly to their favor. That is why it is important to have maths and luck and everything else work and revolve around you so that it would lead you to win

Mathematics and luck indeed plays a pivotal role in gambling successes and so mixing maths with statistical analysis of previous games oupled with some luck can lead you to winning ways but we often don't get all these factors present and that is why gambling is a choice and you can opt out any time you feel uncomfortable with it.

Gambling is all about the mind game and statistics are really fantastic for being successful in this field. However you are not accompanied with luck every time. Mathematics can help you day and night and it can make your game strong but ultimately you are ending up with being dependent on luck for your success and profit. Gambling is not a source of income so better is to leave it.

Mathematics might able to help you out but most of the time we do really fully rely on our luck.This is why minding these kind of strategy would really be pointless when we do play games which arent really necessary to use up this method. Probability of effectiveness is there but we should not really be confident or do strongly believe that it should work.

There could be thousands of factors like mathematics or superstitions or strategies but nothing will work when we mostly require them to bail out us. That is the reason we do call gambling is truly based on luck based and gamblers way should be based on luck factor otherwise there would be no positive results we can enjoy.

Probability theory is somewhat similar to what we are experiencing in the name of luck factor. Something may happen or may not happen that is what luck factor is defined which is also suitable for probability theory.

Everything is just based on theory, we will only know if it can really help us if we applied it in practice.
It does not mean that when your method will not work it will not gonna work to others, that is the thing, maybe we were not able to execute it properly
because there are still a lot of gamblers who are profitable on what they are doing.

I just thought.. gambling is just a luck, nothing else influences it besides than that. Skill, when to start, strategies or whatever it is.. for me it's like just a fate of someone who's driven to doing gamble due on their mind/conditions till want to doing gamble.

That is somewhat true but the owners wouldn't let their casinos get hacked or something because they are going to lose a lot of money if that happened. It's going to be hard but I think it can be done but it's just not worth it because you could go to jail. It's illegal. Why do gambling sites deserve it if the players themselves get into that position? It's the players fault in my opinion.

Pure luck and if there's someone who able to take advantage of that then they can win after, gambling for fun or for money without any luck still a risk to take, whether you are just enjoying it and wanted to feel the excitement still you are gambling your money and risk to lose are still bigger without any luck beside you, gamblers that have some strategy still relied with luck  they just can handle the situations so they avoided to lose much bigger.

Mathematics can really help and like you have said the probability and statistics that can used on the basis of the past experience. This may help you in gambling but still there is not surety of it. Despite this trading and investing have some strong sureties that if you implement such techniques, there are much more chances for the profit to yield at the end of day. Gambling only sucks.

No one can question this fact for sure. This is the most important factor in the life of a gambler. The success of player in any game depends upon his fate.  And this is the reason why gambling is considered a risky game. You can never tell whether your luck is with you or against you.  Regardless of the purpose of playing this game, Money will be lost if game is lost. There is no denying in this.

If you think that you can bet the house with the start of game, then it is your luck, you have good luck that you are doing it. However i can't see anyone who have beat the house and always win the game. I have tried a lot of time, but i can't successful in it, may be i am not lucky just like you, and  i rely on it that we always win in the game and in it our luck help us, although in my view, we can't beat the house.

Some time it happen that we beat the house but it does not mean that we can win against the house for every time. It is depending on your luck, otherwise they always keep the edge to beat the gambler. Some casinos get more edge while some give a little benefit to the gambling, people always like to visit such casinos were they the house always keep less edge.

Somehow, what you said is applicable to some games but not all games use numbers so gamblers can use predictions or probality. Like horse racing for instance hiw can you oredict which horse is going to lead. Everything is just by chance.

I think the best way to win a bet is by knowing the odds and keep on betting. You won't win anything with just one try. Also, there will be a time were a person's luck can overcome any odds. No matter how much you read it, if its his lucky day, nobody can beat that guy. Especially on poker, were the losing card will win the whole match just because he got what he's looking for on the last card.

Even by knowing the odds and keep betting on it won't guarantee us to win. Tbh, there is no way to win the game unless we are lucky. And sometimes, even when we are in a lucky moment, we tend to force our luck and keep betting till the bad things happened.

but unfortunately, we don't know when our luck moment comes and we only hope that moment will come before we play the games. we cannot force our luck to come because it won't come to us and it will come if we deserve to get that luck. I think luck is not just on the gambling but also in the other situations which we really need a luck so we can get something that we need.

Cheating requires many skills, and it is not going to be called gambling because you are cheating. You are just taking money without betting. And as for your statement about luck, it is not sufficient to win, you need more other mesures that include skills, positiveness, and a strong determination. If you just depend on luck, you will blame the house or blame it for not making you win. That is why you have to assume your responsibility.

Stealing funds would really be an another story since it cant really be considered to be betting yet we are already cheating em up. Gambling do purely involve on making some bets which you do risk out money to earn money but its not a typical thing for you to make it as a source of income but rather just a pure entertainment and as a gambler we should really be responsible anytime.

Probability has the biggest role in gambling with the assist of predictions also because gambling involves games in which you have to choose the right answers by solving the scenarios given to you. And if the person would be lucky enough, he would definitely give right answers to most of the questions. Yeas, here the chances of that horse would be to win the game which would take a good start and would be muscular also.

It is hard cheat just to beat the house, not just that, but you are going to have a hard time to find a way on how you are going to win in gambling by cheating. Finding a bugs might work, but you must be talented because if you find some, you are going to win a lot of money before the gambling site found it and fix it. But I'm not going to do that if I were you, I'd rather spend my time onto something more worthy.

It is an old saying that for cheating one also needs a sharp mind which means a very clever mind can cheat others and if you are not one of those who have clever mind, then you should better cheat because it will become a source of shame for you for all the time. Obviously, we can’t say we are gambling because we are cheating others but to cover ourselves up, we will say others that we are gambling. 

Gambling is pure basen on luck even some rumour say of there any people can win using math may be thats only can be done in some games. I.e blackjack,bacarrat,etc.

Brother whatever you do, still this betting and gambling thing will be making harm for you. Why you are depending on such thing that doesn’t have any credibility other than this luck thing. And everyone here knows better that luck doesn’t support you every day so this means if you are gambling regularly you will be losing most of the days, isn’t it? Open your mind and eyes and see it by yourself.

So when we know that only luck is the factor that would be making better results for us, how can we become so foolish to even go for gambling again? We all know that luck isn’t a companion of everyday. Rather it just meets us after so long times so better is to acknowledge this factor and go for the smooth living. Don’t be dependent on the luck and in this, don’t just lose yourself.

We could not determine our luck if we gambled as once, maybe it will happen if you gamble every day just hoping that every gamble your luck was there. Stay away from gambling if you feel that you are not lucky enough on it don't chase your losses and come back tomorrow hoping that your loss will back again. In that attitude, you might be fooling your self that forcing you and expecting to win even though you could not win. Gambling, not design by the owner to always win.

maybe you would understand how much the risk you could have if you kept on gambling. I think it's best to be away for a few hours and continue when you feel that you are going to profit again. I also agreed that house always wins especially in the long run.

Why not to start with question what is luck? When you answer on that question it will be easier for you to connect gambling with luck term. Luck is the product of trying over and over again, if you don't try you can't be lucky. In gambling how much you try depends from your bankroll, choice of the game and how big odds are you chasing. This headline gamblers way is not so bad when you think about it, each gambler has its own way, strategies, different choices when it comes to gambling. What worked for some people will not work for others, so the best thing in gambling is to find your own way, your own luck, if you are capable for that. If you aren't then you will sink like many others before and cry about it.

We can't say we will win if we are gambling everyday because there were lot of gamblers are trying their luck everyday and ended up losing again and again and some people just play one or twice and got bags of money so the luck can come anytime.And gambling was designed for the owners profit no the players. :D

Playing gambling is a game which winning is so difficult and annoying at the same time. It would be better if you are going to quit gambling for good and not return to it because you are just going to regret it. If you are playing gambling knowing that you could double the amount of money that you have, well, that might happen if you are a lucky one, but forget about gambling if you already lose in a row, that is a sign that you should do something else than gambling.

Well winning depends on how much it's winning chance that you've got. So for example you put a win chance 90% then it would be easy to when but what is hard is that you need to profit from your initial deposit and hopefully get back what you deposited. if you try to earn money with gambling, it wouldn't be the best thing to count on because of the risk involved.

Regardless of the methods, techniques, math, skills or any other relevant scheme, gambling will always revolve around luck. Indeed, using probability may help you see the odds/chances of you winning or losing but you cannot control the movement of the dice. Meaning, gambling revolves around luck whether you apply some methods or not.
I am not saying that those methods would not help you as it may influence your decision whether to take the chances or not or at least mitigate the damage but you can never predict 100% accurately the control of the game.


In fact, that is the problem of most gamblers nowadays. They are stuck on this endless of loop of betting as they hope to recover their losses by gambling again but in fact, they are only worsening their situation!

Well, every gamblers has their own of luckiness in them well if luck is really there or it is just a coincidence.

A lot of people are attracted to gambling because it is just that easy to earn money but people do not know how those gamblers struggled and how money they wasted on those just to get that amount of money. They can say that it is an investment but I see it as a waste of money since if you will be investing your money in that time, you might've seen a result now.

The casino house will always win no matter what strategy you put into play. The game is EV- in dice and slots roulette etc. Thus in the long term profit for the gambler is negative and for the house if positive. Most gamblers who are regularly playing know this and thus they dont play for too long, lest the bad streaks come into play.

Again many gamblers cant stop their temptation - which is why the casino business is lucrative and profitable not to mention illegal in some places.

Yeah that is right. They always win either in the condition if you are loser or a winner. Because in case of winner, you would be giving a fixed ratio to them and in case of loser, definitely they will get the wining part from the winner. So don’t let others win and lose yourself just to profit another party again. Don’t be just foolish. Make wise decisions and let a healthy and wealthy life ahead.

Beating the house with a good strategy is definitely possible at least in my opinion. Gambling house always win is because they have the edge comparing to the player and you need to have ample capital for whatever strategy you have to let you have the advantage over the house.

You need to learn how to write better shitposts than these dude. You denied the statement of the first line in the second line. Are you out of your mind?

You can never beat the house in gambling. Thats how the casinos make money. They lure people to come and play making them hope for big wins but in the reality its a trap for people to play and lose their money because the house always wins - mathematically.

maybe he forgot what he said, this is the impact of the number of threads that continue to be made. even though the thread is already there. this is very much the opposite. when many shitpostser often say the same thing and also contrary to the words they made before

I've tried playing some games in gambling and one of the game that I liked was the dice game. I have noticed that it will just really depends it on your luck. We all know that games are made in technology and it is programmable so even you learn how the games work, the computer still will decide for your future. But I am not saying that all the games in gambling are made in technology, I am just saying in terms of digital cryptocurrency games.

As for gambling is about luck and wise, if you are a gambler once you win you can be wise take the money and gamble again in the next day. More people are become greedy of gambling they want to get all the money instead of winning their money will gonna lose all.

True gambling is about luck, and to those who are greedy want to get all gambling so that they can just defeat and lost a lot of it hangs they have, then to gambled we need a lot of calculation

that's right, gambling is about luck because the outcome is uncertain. let alone a gambling like a casino that was depending on the owner, in contrast to sports gambling, perhaps a little easier to predict a great team when playing at home. I often do this when gamble and so far the results are pretty good, though just take a profit 1-10%. that's just my opinion, because a casino is harder than sports gambling.

I used to believe same before I met some really talented people who used to win most of their games. I am not saying that they won all games but they were doing this for living and were successful. However, it needs a lot of practice to achieve that level, they were playing for about 7-8 years.

The best mix in my opinion is gathering knowledge + luck . If you know you're good at some game or have accurate pronostics about any sports or games then you should use that in your advantage , and with a little bit of luck the job is done !
Setting up a strategy that deals with random parameters isn't really a solution since you aren't in control of anything , neither the house is !
And relying on luck only is very similar to just throwing your money away .

Either way, as long as you're good at it and you know what you are doing then you are safe. I agree with you that having it at random wouldn't be in your control but at least you could try to have non linear bets that the house can somehow predict with their program or something. Hopefully luck will come to our sides whenever we gamble.

And what exactly can be that strategy with which a gambler can change his fate? First, the house will try to defeat him then he will have to fight against luck. Both enemies are stronger than the player and to be very honest, there is nothing that can be done about such a situation so the best is to not play this game but still, if someone is willing to, he must set limits for himself.

To be honest, I don't really trust these online gambling sites. Their provably fair crap is just stupid for me. Maybe some people won on their stats board but I know that they control on how many people they will allow to win.

Well, there is a lot of gambling sites that is saying they are provably fair but they are really not, they are just saying those words so those gamblers will be attracted to these certain sites.

I also don't trust those machines since there are people who are saying that it is rigged. Well atleast I am just gambling for fun but hearing those words will really make you stop gambling.

Whatever you do, these houses always win. They have planned everything according to them. They never let some person come and win and make them loser. No, never, consider you at their place and just think would you allow someone to come and play and then take money from you and making you a loser always? No, you must be seeking out the money from every game they play.

But I think gambling that is something that is not good and will make us addiction and if it happened we will always gambled though defeat always come and it will make us having lost a large

It will never be good for us, gambling is a game where the risk is so huge, and the first time you tried it, you'll know to yourself that you don't want to continue or else you are going to lose your money, which is the opposite why you wanted to do gambling, because you wanted to earn money by gambling and not to lose your money. Being a wise gambler might help yourself to avoid losing too much.

Why would house allow all of his player to win? At most, there would be two or three of them for depicting the fact that people can get rich by playing this game. In the world of business, there is nothing like care or sympathy. Everyone just thinks about his own survival and for that, he would do anything whether that is ethical or not. Gambling is also a business for the house owners.

The house always win the player either immediately or in the long run. This is due to they having an advantage of understanding how this game works when people win they will bet bigger amount and in the end the house will be the one that is benefiting. As long as you have a good strategy and with a strong discipline of following your strategy i believe it is possible but i suppose it will be difficult. 

Exactly.Gambling will not bring any good in the long run.Those times that you think you had always won in gambling are just your lucky days.Because for sure you often lose your money than making winnings in gambling.But if you know your limits,it might prevent you from gambling too much and make huge losses.Instead,treat gambling as a means of an entertainment.

I'm pretty sure that you can't beat the house with any strategy. To make your own conclusions consider analyzing several bets on any gambling site. Take into consideration the following things: the bet amount, the multiplier and the profit on win. You will see that everything is perfectly calculated for the house edge to be exactly as declared.  So it's impossible to beat the house in the long run. But of course you can win with any strategy in a short term if you are lucky. Don't waste your time on creating betting strategies, all of them are the same with regard to your winning chance.

You understand the gambling business very well. The house has always edge over the players. The owners of casino allow the new players to enjoy few victories in the beginning so that they won’t leave their casinos. After some time the player gets addicted to the game and that is when the house uses its power. All of a sudden, same player starts losing games and with time, all of his wealth vanishes.

It might be true that you met some people in your life; the talented ones who win most of the games they play in gambling but still no one can say that I can’t be defeated in gambling as gambling is a matter of pure luck and sometimes it happens in gambling that the opponent you face in gambling is much luckier than you and at that time, no matter how experienced you are, you will lose.

In life, I believe that there would always be a balance where there would be times that you are winning, and there are times you don't. When greed triggers, probably the chances of you losing becomes higher because we all know that in the long run, you will lose. Even talented people experience losses, and more people will tend to lose money when greedy. It's always like that except when you are really lucky. Knowing when to stop definitely makes and breaks you whether you're on green or not.

This isn’t about being wise or not to identify when to play and when not to. This is all about the game that have only bad aspects on everyone’s life. Just find out any person who had gambled someday but he had a successful life? No, you can’t find anyone because gambling don’t let anyone surpass to live a happy life where it just damages the relationships and money related to this particular person.

I think the house have the edge because he is well more experienced than other players who for gambling as he has no restrictions of money on his gambling and can practice whenever he wants to but the away has to pay to learn gambling and definitely not every gambler has that much money that he can afford a lot of losing. Gambling is totally luck dependent so we can’t say that hose allows others to win in start.

Gambling operators are no jokers at all and are in business to profit so whatever it might take to rid you of your funds they will do it if it will even take them to make you win a series of games first. I experienced that with roulette a couple of times and they ended up winning all their money back and mine.

First of all, I want to clear your concept regarding gambling that there are more chances of house to win than away because house is very well aware of every up and down while the away is like the foreigner who knows nothing. You are saying that we can beat house by some sort of strategies but let me inform you there are no strategies introduced in gambling as it is a matter of pure luck.

You should not even gamble next day gambling isn't a long term income you need gamble once in a month and try your luck gambling daily will give you a profit but will also get you addicted to it because of that you will start gambling daily and finally when you start losing you profit the site

This is the common problem of those gamblers who can't ignore the call of gambling. It is natural that a person will be involved in any gambling game, accidentally or not, but to make it a habit will surely be a big problem. Honestly, it had been discussed in this forum for so many times how gambling can be addicted when you play it everyday but of course there are people who would still gamble even if they know how bad or wrong it is. This is just like having a disease where you are prohibited to eat some kind of foods, the prohibition just only make the thirst and the temptation stronger so you'll end up doing it eating it anyway. This is also like in gambling where you will experience losses and will even promise yourself to never play again but you will likely end up finding yourself gambling again.

I really interested with the question and I think we can beat the house if the games are based on maths and using probability because as far as I know, we can use maths and probability in the gambling games but not all people can do a good math. and the most time people are only getting lost because they don't know how to calculate the percentages they win and only play a roll using any possibilities.

but in the gambling games, we really need the luck to beat your opponent and even to beat the house and sometimes you don't need a long time to be a winner and win the jackpot.

and the gamblers still playing the games without realizing that his life is not for just playing gambling and if we really care about our life then we need to leave the places and don't come back in the other day. or we can only play the games without using a big money so we can enjoy the games and we can prevent from being an addicting person in gambling.

Only for fun and entertainment it should be played as you can really lose out a lot of money when you become addictive to the gambling. People go bankrupt just because they want to earn money form gambling and it is not really possible for everyone to make money from it.

The luck can come to you at any time so no definition for how much time gap is needed between successive bets.The luck can stay for you one day so you need to make more bets at the day to make more money because the next day the it could be an unlucky day. :D
Whenever you have spare money which can be spend on entertainment at that time only you should gamble that is the best way to avoid any serious losses.

Those who have control over their emotions and can put a stop on their bankroll are able to save themselves from getting bankrupt. The whole idea of casinos is to make people go bankrupt and lose money and thats who the owners make money. If you are falling for this trap then its your loss if you dont realize that you will be practically unable to win the jackpot and thus your efforts go in vain.

Then again there are people who eat these delusions and thrive on them. They will always bring money to the casino owners. :P

I won’t fill anyone’s head with such a hope that he can beat house if he learns some mathematics, even if it works. The reason is simple, it will encourage him to gamble and that is what I am strictly against. The fear of house is a good one. It may keep gambler in his limits and will break his spirit of continuing. Besides, no matter what calculations we do, we cannot compete luck.

You can definitely increase your odds of winning certain games with a strategy, e.g. Poker, chess, sports. But that is not the case for all games, I would say the best you can hope for are loss minimisation strategies. Most games that are played against other players are suitable candidates for strategy, but when you're up against a fixed edge with known odds, strategies are not useful in the long term.

In gambling you need to be lucky in order to win, there are skilled based games but you also need to be lucky to win.
I am playing sports betting and we know that it's a skilled based games as you can cap games, but in my experience it seems like games
can also be manipulated or what we called fixed games so that will kill our skills in capping.

Your idea is good but most of the people will not follow the rule to gamble once in a month, once they start gambling it seems to be the most addictive one from day one. Gambling will work to few people because most of the time they spent the time to find logic in gambling but people who don't have will always lose in gambling.

Either you fear from house or not, they will definitely eat you up. There are something that must be digested before getting into anything, any source of income. You must adhere them and if they are resonating with your mind and goals, only then go into there. Else, just get away from that because it can be harmful for you at the end. So just don’t ruin your life and the lives associated with you.

As for my experience, I see gambling only as pure luck. Maybe some people disagree with me but we have different insights and experiences in gambling. To be honest when I put my money into gambling, the only end result is going home empty - handed. I didn't experience going home with money in my pocket. This is the reason why I stopped gambling right now. I don't want to put my money into it.

I have watched I think months ago that there are some tricks in gambling especially in the casino games. I didn't remember the name of video but the content of that video is to reduce the number of losses you commit.

this is what I thinking so far and because gambling only depends on a luck factor, we cannot use gambling to make money and I don't think that we can win in one round, maybe we need more than one round to win the games. and maybe we don't calculate how much we are going to lose our money if we play more than ten round to get the win.

you are not alone that have the experience to going home without any money because we are losing that money in gambling places and I think we have agreed that playing gambling is risking our money without any chance to make a big money in short time. so I think we need to change our ways or our mind to not playing gambling in every day.

you can still calculate your loss if you set limit on yourself how much loss can you afford. you dont need to worry about losing if you just control yourself to stop betting you might regain that loss one day if you just dont let greed take you.

losing all money happened to me too because of my greed i lost all and i learned my lesson to not be greedy again, i decided to stop gambling now because i dont want to increase my lost.

No . You guys are both wrong, gambling isnt only depends on luck but it is still depend on what type of gambling that you are playing. You know ,there were lots of types of gambling games and some of them are also skill dependent like for example card games , sport games , esport games , etc


Of course yes . We can always use gambling in order to earn money or a profit and many of people do actually make a living in the form of gambling and yes ,we can also win on just a single round . Me myself always win on just a single round and i usually quit in order to secure my winnings.


Not all. Most of the gamblers are smart and wise , they already calculate their capital or their wins/losses before they start to gamble. There were also peeps that play gambling without minding their winnings or losses because they only play gambling just for fun and not for profit.


You were not alone because infact i also experience it and i think almost all of us do already experience that kind of nightmare. Gambling is risky but some people are also lucky to win big more than what they loose.


Playing gambling isnt actually bad thing but as long as you only have a self control , i think it is just fine to play gambling everyday or more oftenly.

This is basic monopoly these houses are playing with you people. They get a specific amount of money from your winnings and loss as well. So, just don’t believe them and never come under their umbrella. Because if you do so, they will just empty you and eat up all what you have in your mind and your pocket. Live a healthy and wealthy life and that would be best for you and your family.

An individual may choose gambling as part of his entertainment, but that will give negative impact after some times. There could no possibilities for any unique gambling way as most people do lose in long run. If spending for unnecessary things is a way then you also may follow a gambler's way.

Many ways can gamblers do in gambling, some people use a mathematical strategy, and some are not and depends on thier luck in a game. But do you ever think that whatever you are trying to do a different strategies or ways in gambling it ends up with nothing? Yes you win 2x, 3x, or more but if you continue the money you win together your capital will lost after.

With strategy there are afew but most of the time they do not work.

There are scripts that promise the user of making 10x in using it for 10-12 hours at a time.
These methods I have not tested but they are available to use and try their luck with if they wish to make a profit.

But from your story it seems that doing these YOLO bets have not worked in your favor at all.
So this only tells you this particular strategy is not for you.

every gambler has different ways and thinkers. my way is to bet for a small amount and win the game. after which the winning money is used for the next bet. because I play capsa, so luck must also accompany me, because the victory will depend on the card I will get.

Just a common sense thing, if casinos will become all fair or start taking care of its customers, it is impossible for the owner to earn money through this business. I don’t blame casinos for being this way because business works this way. Everyone fools his customer in one way or the other to get money out of his pocket with his own free will. But gambling is an addictive luck based game so a person can become poor quickly.

Basically all types of gambling depend on luck. Strategy is used to increase the chances of winning, I believe gambling cannot be separated from luck. I prefer to be a lucky person in gambling rather than being a gambling master but far from luck. ;D

Low bets, or, in other words, bets with high probability of winning, are not only boring but making me lose a certain amount much faster than other strategies. For example, playing with 98% win chance I can lose two times within 30 first bets, and then lose one more time within next 10-20 bets, and stop playing because it seems impossible to even get back what you already lost. That's why I prefer betting with 1% win chance and 0.01% win chance is even better because when you hit it you feel really good.



You can't beat the house with any strategy, but you can participate in competitions with positive EV, which have been running constantly on various gambling sites. Although your profit is not guaranteed even when playing games with positive EV, at least your chances of winning something are higher in those cases.

Majority of them are luck based games and only few card games do require skill which will help you to  win the game. But slot machine, roulette etc can be played by even small children as just have to press the button and rest luck decides if you win or not.

If there was a way to beat the house with maths and probability I guess the strategy would be out by now.
I feel It could take throwing a dice  with multiple accounts to win.  Throwing multiple times with single account may reduce one's chances of winning. Just my thought. I haven't tried it before. .

The gambling life is always different from any other job because it has no qualities of education and how you are doing like that these things will not be a matter for gambling the only thing is you need to put lots of investment and get the return from that so gambling will definitely be and different kind of money making for me and it will definitely need to grow up very higher in quicktime.

Actually you can't beat the luck and win in gambling,if you want to win then you should have luck and more gamblers may aware of it but still trying to make money by betting regularly with change of odds and they call it as strategy.

Some of us may have the chance to quit gambling with good amount of money in our pockets but because of the greed that is in us, we don't know when to stop and take the advantage. Usually we will continue to gamble even after we get good luck. Most people will stop gambling in a forced state, that is, after going bankrupt. Whereas when it is winning, the intention to stop is never there.

So pity on those people who lose all their winning rewards when they tried to win more from the bets.When we won something from gambling then we need to satisfied with that and spend that money in other ways.

Before i debate your comment , let me first congratulate you for digging this thread  .


You are correct when you say this .  there were actually alot of strategy created and exploited around the web . they are all based with mathematics  and surprisingly some did work like a charm but at some point , it will stop working if you abuse using them because i think gambling sites can also detect the automation that you are doing  .

Many games are purely luck based and if you lucky enough you would make the money and take it away unless greed takes over and you might eventually lose that amount if you continue gambling in the long run. So one should be aware about it.

Of course most will end without results according to your calculations, gambling is not about mathematical calculations,
yeah although in some games, strategy sometimes works, but I think luck is the number 1 way to win

I don't believe the luck while playing gambling it' is all about skills and strategy with complete knowledge how to get win the bet. And yes correct from the opionion of the others harder to calculate mathematically the beat.

There is no skill needed to win the bet. Luck is the only factor for me which can determine your wining or losing in a bet or casino games.




Only money management strategy can help to reduce the loss, rest gambling is all about to try out your luck. If your luck favors, you can be a rich man and if not, you can lose all your money.

Beating the house with strategies is possible, but the same isn't possible long term. Always there is a need for luck, some might work as predicted on strategy but the same isn't assured forever. Gamblers need to stick themselves to limits without which loss cannot be stopped. Even when there is success one needs to act precisely so to make the succes last for longer time period.

Agree, not always the same strategy will generate profits for the long term, if the strategy works well at the beginning then as much as possible you should take advantage of that moment well, because when luck is no longer on your side and the strategy no longer works well, then as much as possible you must have control to stop for a certain period of time so that the profits that you have earned do not just disappear because of greed.

There are people who win at gambling and they do not believe in LUCK. I think that it is more about numbers, probability and math. You are good at tracking the strategies of someone; you can make in mind a counter strategy which helps a lot.
It varies from person to person. Some people might achieve a mind state in which they perform extraordinarily for they free themselves of all the worldly thoughts and focus on that problem in that instance.

When I play, I try to combine all possible strategies without repeating. In this way: when I apply a strategy, I immediately change to the other, then I improvise, because I've realized that improvising is not just another strategy, it's an unpredictable measure, I think it's a way of having a state of mind that many they enter

It is a state of concentration that is difficult to achieve, which affects psychology, trying to repress emotions is what is difficult to control.

Majority of the gamblers believe in luck and you aren't. Okay, that's your opinion and it might not be changed but mostly believes that luck plays a big role for everyone's gambling activity. You may have the skills and strategy but we always want to have that kind of luck that will give us a better result as we gamble.

Possibly if you are really good at math, you can somehow try if it will work but pretty sure that will take a long calculation which might be effective or not. Basically, luck is the key leading to a victory but if you are not really wise on decision making when it comes to your bets, you are just getting your luck wasted. So for me the best thing to come up for a win is a tough strategy plus luck to win the game once and for all. That thing I usually do clarify to myself whenever I play into an  online casino (https://to.crwd.cr/smtm) to somehow get a win in the variety of games I enjoy playing on it as well the great deal of bonus for doing your first deposit.

I think the logic would be to answer, if gambling uses the skills and strategies to win it will certainly be the same as trading, and of course the chance to win will be much greater, but not like that. the chance to win 50-50. or rather the house is superior, luck takes a most important role

trading do mainly depend on strategy and skills but on gambling , it usually depends on what type of game you are playing because some gambling games are skill based ( ex. sports , cards ) while others are purely luck based ( ex. roulette , color games  , dice games )  . that's what @rodel caling trying to say here  .

Not each time the luck plays a important role while gambling. A majority of games which are to be played with strategy don't need much luck to win into but also there are some games which depends on luck and we can't have any profits there if we are not lucky enough. Even i don't believe in luck to that extend because what we earn depends on how knowledgeable we are and not how lucky we are. I'd also always prefer to gamble with games where no luck is needed because i can use my strategy by studying the game to have vast profits.

No matter how good you are in math and probability and all such stuff, i think it will still not worth it in gambling. In gambling only the Luck counts and if you have good luck then no one can beat you in gambling.

I don't think that even mathematical calculations would work because it will take a long time to solve and probability of winning changes as the game goes on so how come mathematical calculations can help you win in gambling? It is just in need of wise decision based on observation and gut feeling and specially the most important thing is the presence of luck. I would like to know more of what variety of games I can play with that online casino you were talking about.

Indeed. Mathematically calculating the game does really just take time and it will just get the game boring if you will do that in the middle of the game. For me, observation to think of a move is already a great strategy but still it is a need of a luck to win the game. You can know more about the variety of games I play in the  online casino (https://to.crwd.cr/smtm) I am currently into and see it for yourself.

Math has nothing to do with winning in gambling games. If that was true then every mathematician would have been able to beat the house which did not happen by this time and hence can be considered by common sense application but majority of the people here lack that much brain. Again a mathematician would not need to gamble for a living. ;D

What math can do is help in EV+ games to make predictions but in EV- games its a waste of time trying to develop strategies because every strategy will fail in the long term.

I guess a popular game like poker can be called as EV+ game, right?

I also believe that sports betting is considered an EV+ game as even though the fair odds would normally reduce your wining to 5-10% because of juice but you have the option to increase your odds by selling points.

 I like sports but not so with poker and although it's an EV+ game but still I am not winning consistently, so how much more in EV- games?

Right but I guess the thing with poker and sport betting is that majority gamblers is not into it. They would rather go with games with much riskier or with EV- and really wanted to beat the odds. And they try to developed strategies they say work, but unfortunately, they forgot one thing, they didn't include that you need a lot of luck to be able to win with EV- games.

Actually people who make gambling as a job or earn money in gambling, will see gambling not only about luck but strategy also,
and let them live with that mindset as long as they have control and plan in playing gambling

There is no predefinite way of gambling way or anything related to that which can be a sure way to make money in the long term.

The people who tell to themselves that they gamble for a living are only some delusional lunatics.

It is pretty much appreciated how they consider gambling as a source for their living and even survive for many years. They'll probably just few but I think they are expose to much in gambling before considering this unlike us who are just making gambling just for having fun. It probably they are comfortable with this and gambling will be their passion and skills.

For me, gambling is really about luck and i don't think that we could beat the house, even we have luck in gambling. Because house has no loss, only gamblers are faces the losses, and you are also gambler then definitely you feel it that sometime we win but most of the house win.
And about strategy wise yeah, strategy wise we could win betting in sports, but like dice and other games in these games only luck depending we win.     

No such thing as luck and such thing as strategy in gambling.
Everting is a coincidence, of course only  if any given game is without preset options, designed to cheat the player.
Exception is the BlackJack where card can be counted but basically it is impossible to do online.
The only possible gambling theory of strategy that I can accept is the method of how and when to stop betting, to limit loses.
The sooner gambler realises, that when following some intricate strategy or lucky charms he is deluding himself, the better.

I did not get the difference of gambling and betting as in gambling people use to bet so does in betting, if you will keep thinking that gambling is all about your luck then how can you play with gamblers, it is not good to put hands and thinking gambling is that easy it needs skills, time and focus along with strategy, so keep working I am sure one day you will know everything about gambling and online betting.

No one should connect with the gambling in the beginning stage because the camera in this more different from any other field I also been like that for some months after I getting into this field but when the days are going I realise that gambling will be the most attractive way of money making fighting it will be more different from anything

Everyone in the gambling will start from the profit but once you invest again and again then it only end up with loss so gambling is always been a difficult field to understand it properly and it will continue how much you can get the experience from this the strategies are not useful here but any period of time it is based on only luck and time.

They believe into something that their strategies are working well to them not realizing the long term effect of that one. We may succeed on making profit but if you gamble many times you are sacrificing yourself until you becomes addict. The gamblers way should be in favor not just to yourself but also to others that you love.

it has to do with our playing strategy, our mentality, our capital, but the most important thing is luck on the day we are gambling.

To be honest, I do not believe in Luck seeing the people going on crazy about the money they have made in Bitcoin. It is just clicking the opportunity in the right time and that is what people call luck. People say he is lucky because he made money in cryptocurrency but they do not look at the risk that was taken initially. So, gambling is a game of risk.

At times, you might win by accident which is not luck. The dice has to roll at a number and in case it is your number, which is a random output. Strategies do mater when it comes to gambling.

With our strategy and our luck, I guess we will never loss.

However, we know that luck is not our friend all the time, sometimes we also have bad luck in gambling so we also loss.

It's normal that we loss and win because it's gambling, we are risking money just guessing but to be consistent you surely need to have a good strategy and that is possible if you are smart and discipline enough as a gambler.

Strategies do really work , i know because im always using a strategy everytime i do gamble  . i did earn some good bucks and that result me to minimize playing a gambling because im afraid that my winning will become losses . when we gamble , we dont sacrifies anything not even cash because gambling is not a kind of offering  . you choose that path , you play because you like it  , not because you are force by someone else  .

Most important if a person is with discipline it will always be under his/her control like playing, losing, winning etc. Always have a calculated risk and would not indulge into too much excessive risks or greediness which could lead to huge losses.

I guess not. House has the edge over the gamblers in online casinos since they are the ones that created the site. It's about luck for us to win more than what we lose during gambling games but overall, it's the house that winning over all the gamblers who bet on their site.

With my years in gambling, it really boils down to luck. And if you're lucky that day, it's better to exit otherwise, those probability will catch up on you and you will lose in the end. Discipline and self control is the key in gambling if you really wanted to "always" win every time you play.

That's being smart in gambling, you calculate everything and then you make strategy on it.

Also, it's important that you will be able to properly employ your methods because without discipline, things are useless.
Everyone wants to win but as we desire to win, we should not forget the risk in gambling, knowing it will minimize the risk and we will
be more realistic with our approach towards our goal. We may fail with our goal to win but we can protect ourselves with unnecessary loses.

But what is it then? Luck, by definition of oxforddictionaries, is


If you mean that you don't believe in some "God of Luck", I agree with you on that, but when someone wins by accident it is called luck without any superstitious connotation.



And I understand this even less than the previous quote. Wasn't it proved many times here that in luck-based games strategies don't matter? In short, any gambling strategy might work at some point, not due to its quality but rather by some lucky coincidence of circumstances. "Even a broken clock is right twice a day" as they say.

Nothing more but luck if you are playing computer generated games like dice,roulette and slots(ofcourse all online games are running thru computer

But if games like cards or mahjong or other ganes related to dealing with another individuals then strategy and luck both needed

I wish most gamblers will have this trait. DISCIPLINE and self control. If this happens, the number of gamblers who will lose in gambling will decrease significantly but sad to say, gamblers tend to become more greedy as they are winning and they will not stop until there is no money left in the pocket.

I think if you don't know how to control yourself when you are gambling, its better if you just not gamble anymore to prevent losing of money.

I have been there and made that which proven it is true being able to use math and probabilistic data to achieve a greater good, in this case my profit was reached based on my experienced data throw out the past years since Bitcoin surged.

Of course i busted many times but i reached a certain path where i know when i can bet with a higher amount in certain ocasions.

Dice sure is a game of luck so whatever strategies you may come up with, it's unlikely for you to decipher its pattern.

Every gamble is a game of luck not just dice. You play with your money you are depending on luck to play it for you. Try forex trading or options trading and not to mention the recently hyped margin trading on shitmex, there are people who are gambling their money there too. All these are different methods to play that 50-50 dice roll. Its going up or is it going down? :D

Truely speaking, everything in life is a game of chance. You never know when your fate might smile and give you a big reward for your hard work. However sitting on your computer all day and gambling away your savings wont have a good effect because thats always going to be a donation for the house.

This is not far from the truth.
Gambling needs to be well categorized. There are some that are skilled based and doesn't really qualify as gambling or game of chance. For example, what do you call two  gamers (with one better than the other) betting on outcome of their game? I guess the outcome can be fairly predicted hence not qualify as game of chance.

Some people would just work hard to make money for the seek that they could just have to used in gambling which totally not right and I don't know how the think that. Probably they'll might be addicted into these. Of being an addict, it really affect our mental ability and also into our health. They can't decide what is wrong and what is right.

That is also gambling. You are betting on the person who will win and there is a 50-50 chance regardless of the level of players or the skill involved by them. Its basically likes sports betting where one underdog faces the overlord. There will be a chance to maximize profits by betting on the underdog but they will rarely win here. Even then the pure chance is always 50-50 for both.

Your analysis is correct and you may profit from that but does that matter to the mathematical outcome of a completely random event? It does not. Secondary is that fact that the underdog will lose 90% of the time.

That is the reason we should not trust our luck.

We know how cruel gambling can be and we can't avoid it unless we make a strategy. If you can't stop yourself from gambling, at least do the games that will not require luck for you to win. Pick games that you can bet on that you know the probability of you winning is high like sports gambling. In there you can analyze games and the team you will bet on that makes you comfortable to bet on.

Lets rephrase this in a different manner : Overconfidence will kill and greed will kill. Its about these things that actually make us lose. Luck is there but luck is also something that does not come on its own. We try to overstretch our luck because our self-confidence gets boosted.

Even if you make a strategy you will still lose due to the luck factor. EV- means a 50-50 chance.

Being comfortable with a team does not signify a positive outcome. It might seem favorable outcome to you but it is may actually be not, again here luck comes into play. After all the analysis is done to predict that positive outcome - but that luck can make your tables turn. Not saying that it will happen everytime but it can happen. ;)

People are still winning in gambling no matter how we think ”it is too hard to win”! Winning in gambling entail luck and carefulness and all of us cannot be winning!  it is few that will be winning and we should hope to be among those few when we are gambling. I know it is risky but people are still making money through it.

People might be winning but overall we need to see out of how many games do they win and at the end of the day how people have lost money and won it. One would realize that loss is always greater than winning if calculated and that is obvious as well due to which casinos still exists and making money.

Out of how many games your winning is not the matter.out of how much amount you have invested in the what is the returns you are getting with your investment is actual matter in gambling field as well as you could have consider this then trading field as well.
Then casino sites are not at all calculative based one. If we have good knowledge on how all games being operated then you may have some chance of winning.

Not all gambling casinos games are based on luck, some of these gambling casinos games are based on professionalism, a good example of this gambling casinos are the poker games. But for others, most of them are based on luck for gambler's. I have tested most of these games and have come to a conclusion that, not all games that goes with lucks.

Yin Yang
I believe also in that! There is a balance in everything that we do. We can't say it would be our luck or destiny. We win because there are times that we win. And we lose, because not all times the luck is in our hands. Therefore, in order to prevent large loses, we should also have balance in our playing time. Stop greediness and be amateur in playing gambling.

I agree with this. We should learn how to control ourselves especially when we are gambling because lack of self control can lead to massive loss of money. Not all the time we win because winning in gambling requires a huge amount of luck and a bit of strategy maybe. Don't be too greedy with profits and learn to go away when we got even a small amount of profit already.

To be a long term winner, a gambler must need to be consistent, and I think you need good strategy and a bit of luck.
If gamblers wants to be successful, he should not focus on a luck based kind of game as you don't need strategy on that but just luck and you will never win since the house edge is design to beat the gamblers.

Although they can consistent in the game, I don't think that they can win in many times because I have seen before that after a gambler plays for a long time, they will lose the money. They need to stop for a while before they continue playing because that will makes their emotion change into high tension and that will make them cannot think clearly.

Gambling is not only about luck because there are a lot of games that you can play and it depends on what type of game you are playing. If you are playing roulette, dice and the likes then it is more on luck but if you do card games like poker then it is not purely luck because you can study and master how it works and you can use strategies to lessen your losses. On the other note, beating the house is very impossible, I know a lot of gamblers tried but no one succeeded, so better not to try to beat the house because you might just lose everything.

  It is all about your loss and profit difference. If the profit-loss difference is positive, you are on the surplus and you have the ability to gamble and make more money. It is never so hard to win if you have the basic knowledge and the persistence and perseverance. However, at times, you do lose some money and that hurts but again, every gambler should have some strategies of win.

Gambling is always about luck. When you go high on a low odds. You could have 90% chances of wining 10% of bet and 10% chances of losing it all. Moving forward, the risk and reward would always be the same. However you may play or whatever you may do, your chances would always be 49% as 1% would be the house edge.

This word consistent is not at all relevant to the gambling field because the users whoever been in the trading for gambling field they will never make consistent it profit with their investment.
Maybe e few times you may win can reduce many times initially before you learn some strategy.

I'm not a gambler and I don't gamble that much but I believe that gambling is a combination of luck and strategy. About 90% luck and 10% strategy I think.

As a gamble, you must know when to go out and when to go in. Self control is one of the attitudes every gambler must have. If they are winning, they must learn how to stop and same with losing.

No you cannot beat the house that way, you will only have fun with that small bets but you will eventually lose, only high-risk takers who bet on a large amount and has an appetite for high risk could beat the house one time, but it's not recommended unless you have a large funds and you have been playing a long time.

Most of the gambler or player in every site of gambling I think they most often depend on their luck, most of them too are always end up of loss their coins. If you have a lot of bitcoinBTC, you can stay there for long but few bitcoin is just for awhile for sure, lucky if you stay long despite of having a few balance of bitcoin.

That will not be a great idea to stay in the gambling places for a long time because you will end up by losing your money in the gambling tables. You need to know how long you will stay in the gambling places and arrange some money you will use to place the bets so you will not lose all of the money. If you don't do that, I am afraid that you will not stay for a long time because you will lose in a short time.

According to all the experiences that I have had I can say that gambling is all about luck. Though there are some games like poker and other card games where you can use your skills to take the game to your advantage. But even then most of the gambling is purely on luck.

In my opinion, combination of both luck and strategy will lead to a greater result. I think it's better if they work side by side. It's not like, luck is always on your side, so it's better to also have a strategy and vice versa. But, I think it's also about being wise—knowing when to continue and when to stop.

How about skill based-games?

Games that can be analyzed and then you can depend your bets on that information or datas. Sports betting is one of them, they say that poker is also included but I think it also includes luck and skill so I am undecided to that.

So far no one has come out here telling that he beats the house because of his strategy, gambling is a game of luck and just to have fun, if you try to chase your losses that what's going to hurt you badly because you will lose more.

Luck will always overcome the strategy  in gambling.

If someone has luck and no strategy , he might still be end up winning in gambling. On the other case, a person with no luck and good strategy may still lose even after applying good strategy only because of his bad luck.

The best way to attract luck is to have a positive mindset and everything will follow but if you find yourself unable to control everything in a moment just stop and call it a day before you lose everything you have. A strategy is your way to win while having luck is just a bonus so consider yourself lucky if you have achieved these two in a certain time of the day.