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Bitcoin => Hardware => Topic started by: canth on August 06, 2013, 09:25:26 PM



Title: Cryoniks Query
Post by: canth on August 06, 2013, 09:25:26 PM
I'm aware that I'm not likely to get any affirmative responses, but I'm curious to know if anyone has actually sent money to Cryonics? (https://cryoniks.com (https://cryoniks.com))

Yes - I know that the cost/TH is (was) too low, that the reputation of those associated is dubious at best and that the cooling technology is pure quackery as far as current science goes.

However, they have a slick website and perhaps not everyone does their diligence before ordering a $15K money making/time traveling device. The fact that they still have the site up and list their banking information for incoming wires is pretty bad - makes it more serious than an elaborate practical joke.

If anyone has actually sent them money, I'd like to know - please PM me. I'll keep your information to myself if that's your request.


Title: Re: Cryoniks Query
Post by: tacoman71 on August 06, 2013, 10:12:16 PM
I knew it was a scam but I just hoped it was real. I preordered but I didn't send any money ;D


Title: Re: Cryoniks Query
Post by: rammy2k2 on August 06, 2013, 10:14:46 PM
why would anyone send money to a nice picture ?


Title: Re: Cryoniks Query
Post by: canth on August 07, 2013, 12:08:11 AM
why would anyone send money to a nice picture ?

Same reason people buy lotto tickets. Hope and dreams!


Title: Re: Cryoniks Query
Post by: btcee on August 07, 2013, 12:25:21 AM
SCAM. Covered here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214526.0;all (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214526.0;all)


Title: Re: Cryoniks Query
Post by: canth on August 07, 2013, 12:33:07 AM
SCAM. Covered here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214526.0;all

I agree, 100% guaranteed scam (or bad joke). My question is has anyone fallen for it and sent the funds?


Title: Re: Cryoniks Query
Post by: worldinacoin on August 07, 2013, 12:38:44 AM
It is impossible for such a device, but it really looks nice :)


Title: Re: Cryoniks Query
Post by: DPoS on August 07, 2013, 01:06:35 AM
My whole village mortgaged our goats for one...   maybe we will have to sacrifice a few chickens to apease this asic god for deliverence


Title: Re: Cryoniks Query
Post by: canth on August 07, 2013, 02:40:32 AM
My whole village mortgaged our goats for one...   maybe we will have to sacrifice a few chickens to apease this asic god for deliverence

All the other villages are gonna be jealous, since they're not going to have the "Worlds first PC with on-board liquid nitrogen generator". Hope you saved enough goats to pay for the Africa Online service.


Title: Re: Cryoniks Query
Post by: DPoS on August 07, 2013, 05:31:14 AM
My whole village mortgaged our goats for one...   maybe we will have to sacrifice a few chickens to apease this asic god for deliverence

All the other villages are gonna be jealous, since they're not going to have the "Worlds first PC with on-board liquid nitrogen generator". Hope you saved enough goats to pay for the Africa Online service.

it comes with free skyfiber... we should be able to get back our goat ROI by 5th moon


Title: Re: Cryoniks Query
Post by: Bitcoinorama on August 07, 2013, 11:51:55 AM
That site is still live?! I just checked and I cannot believe Cedartec.net still exists either!!


Title: Re: Cryoniks Query
Post by: -Redacted- on August 07, 2013, 12:02:18 PM
My whole village mortgaged our goats for one...   maybe we will have to sacrifice a few chickens to apease this asic god for deliverence

All the other villages are gonna be jealous, since they're not going to have the "Worlds first PC with on-board liquid nitrogen generator". Hope you saved enough goats to pay for the Africa Online service.

it comes with free skyfiber... we should be able to get back our goat ROI by 5th moon

Wait.   You are getting skyfiber?  We paid more sheep than you paid goats and we only got a list of 300 baud Africa On Line (AOL) dial up modems that we could connect to.  Did you get the free Compuserve and Rusty and Eddies BBS memberships? 


Title: Re: Cryoniks Query
Post by: canth on August 07, 2013, 12:06:37 PM
That site is still live?! I just checked and I cannot believe Cedartec.net still exists either!!

Yes, Cryoniks and Cedartec are still alive. Cedartec might be worse since they only accept bitcoin payments. For kicks, I placed an order and got a reply - looks like they're still up and functioning.

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From: order@cedartec.net, To: jkswyjuw, Date 2013-08-07 12:02:55

logomail.jpg
                            www.cedartec.net

CedarTec - Kassem Mourad - Tripoli - Lebanon

No Thanks
123 Bucklemyshoe Lane
USA - CA
90210 Beverly Hills

Position   Quantity   Product   Price
1   3   CT-80   12.3 ฿
2   1   Shipping (worldwide)   Free
            
            
Grandtotal           36.9 ฿

Dear No Thanks,

thank you for purchasing at CedarTec. We have successfully received your order
and waiting for your payment.
After we received your payment your ordered unit(s) will be reserved
and shipped at the listed date to you, also you will get a
confirmation email with your order number.

Now, please read the following instructions with full attention.

1.) Check your contact information, we will ship to following informations:
 

First Name:   No
Last Name:   Thanks
Date of Birth:   01/04/1978
E-Mail:   jkswyjuw@sharklasers.com
Country:    USA
State:   CA
ZIP Code:   90210
City:   Beverly Hills
Street:   123 Bucklemyshoe Lane
Tel.:   
Refund Address.:   1KJQLDUiewVAbnEcpxG2DVuAwXyKvgCkTg


2.) Wait for your personal bitcoin address to make the payment.
      You should receive it within 12 hours.

3.) ATTENTION: You have 24 hours, after receiving your personal bitcoin address, to effect your payment. Otherwise your order will expire!



Title: Re: Cryoniks Query
Post by: Bitcoinorama on August 07, 2013, 12:25:35 PM
That site is still live?! I just checked and I cannot believe Cedartec.net still exists either!!

Yes, Cryoniks and Cedartec are still alive. Cedartec might be worse since they only accept bitcoin payments. For kicks, I placed an order and got a reply - looks like they're still up and functioning.

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I'm not sure by what you mean by worse. I just played with Cryonics and their preferred method is the 413scammer favourite; wire transfer.


Title: Re: Cryoniks Query
Post by: canth on August 07, 2013, 01:17:10 PM
That site is still live?! I just checked and I cannot believe Cedartec.net still exists either!!

Yes, Cryoniks and Cedartec are still alive. Cedartec might be worse since they only accept bitcoin payments. For kicks, I placed an order and got a reply - looks like they're still up and functioning.

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I'm not sure by what you mean by worse. I just played with Cryonics and their preferred method is the 413scammer favourite; wire transfer.

I agree that the differences are marginal, in terms of recourse. However, with a wire transfer, there needs to be an identified account holder - obviously with BTC, that isn't the case. Basically there is a better chance that regulatory authorities will be able to successfully investigate fraud in the case of a wire transfer. Those scammed won't likely get their funds back in either case, but it's easier to shut down a firm with a traceable bank account and prevent future transactions.


Title: Re: Cryoniks Query
Post by: Xian01 on August 07, 2013, 01:36:05 PM
it comes with free skyfiber... we should be able to get back our goat ROI by 5th moon

 In an alternate timeline, the Cryoniks units evolve into SkyNet, leading to the rise of the machines, and the resulting "Judgement Day".


Title: Re: Cryoniks Query
Post by: mwarrior on August 07, 2013, 01:47:30 PM
I was wondering the same thing.  I actually sent an e-mail the other day just for fun to see what kind of response I would get.  I'm secretly hoping there is at least one schill who everyone can make fun of until the end of time, but it's looking bleak.,  I don't even think the (supposed) fan that was blowing up their Facebook page (that is hauntingly empty) sent any money. 

Dear Cryoniks:

I was just noticing that it's about time for your demo units to go live.  When can we expect to see one of these fine machines in action?  I am sure that everyone will be truly amazed when you get those bad boys cranked up.  Thanks!

That was about 10 days ago.  They must be very busy getting ready for the release  :P

Oh well. 






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