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Title: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: sunlitit654 on January 06, 2018, 04:39:56 AM
Bitcoin is back up $17,000 and with that nice move, the air has been sucked out of some of the hottest altcoins of the past month like XRP, XLM, ADA and more. Is now the time to lock in profits, buy the dip or something else? Let's talk about the day's action and what we might see in the future.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: Queen12 on January 06, 2018, 05:05:07 AM
Bitcoin is back up $17,000 and with that nice move, the air has been sucked out of some of the hottest altcoins of the past month like XRP, XLM, ADA and more. Is now the time to lock in profits, buy the dip or something else? Let's talk about the day's action and what we might see in the future.
When bitcoin goes up, all of the altcoin will fall, which I don't want to see, because altcoin has gone up far more than BTC. >:(


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: UZIzzzz on January 06, 2018, 05:24:50 AM
Bitcoin is back up $17,000 and with that nice move, the air has been sucked out of some of the hottest altcoins of the past month like XRP, XLM, ADA and more. Is now the time to lock in profits, buy the dip or something else? Let's talk about the day's action and what we might see in the future.
When bitcoin goes up, all of the altcoin will fall, which I don't want to see, because altcoin has gone up far more than BTC. >:(
Yes, I don't want to see that. I hope that altcoin will continue to rise, so that it can get more profit.hhhhhh


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: Nightwatchman on January 06, 2018, 05:51:55 AM
Underestimate Bitcoin at your peril.

It remains the logical gateway into cryptocurrency due to its long-term efficacy and the ease with which it can be purchased.

Altcoins (most, anyway) swing up and down on tidbits of news, making them a risky proposition for all but a handful of crypto nerds.

When all is said and done, Bitcoin is the crypto colossus and will be for the foreseeable future.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: dothebeats on January 06, 2018, 11:31:55 AM
I bailed out of XRP when it reached $3.50 a piece and know that it woulfn't hold out for long since the pump is too obvious. Good thing when bitcoin hit $13k-$14k, I have my fiat ready at hand and bought a few. With the number of investors and traders of bitcoin growing, 2018 would still be bitcoin's year with alts on the side. Bitcoin will remain the top crypto since you can't get alts without it and not much exchange supports fiat deposits to directly trade with alts. 2018 will still be a fruitful year.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: tokeweed on January 06, 2018, 11:58:47 AM
And just like that, everybody loves BTC again.  It's funny how fickle the crowd is.  And annoying at the same time.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: timerland on January 06, 2018, 01:06:15 PM
Bitcoin is back up $17,000 and with that nice move, the air has been sucked out of some of the hottest altcoins of the past month like XRP, XLM, ADA and more. Is now the time to lock in profits, buy the dip or something else? Let's talk about the day's action and what we might see in the future.

I don't even know why alts are even such a thing. Of course, there are many positives to it, but essentially they are just copies of the cryptocurrency idea.

Bitcoin will always be the king, so it is no surprise if the value goes up a lot and all the alts drop along with it. Its healthy IMO. The higher BTC is, the more dominant it becomes and the better it is for all of us.

XRP is going crazy now, however I can see a crash coming sooner or later to it.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: arpon11 on January 06, 2018, 01:21:44 PM
Bitcoin is back up $17,000 and with that nice move, the air has been sucked out of some of the hottest altcoins of the past month like XRP, XLM, ADA and more. Is now the time to lock in profits, buy the dip or something else? Let's talk about the day's action and what we might see in the future.
I have seeing other altcoins taking bearish position at the moment and bitcoin is going up. The bullish momentum has resume and I think bitcoin is going to go as high as $60,000 before first quarter of this year. I do believe that many popular alternative coins are going to take bearish position for a very long time and we may another opportunity to buy them at cheap prices.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: talkbitcoin on January 06, 2018, 01:59:05 PM
i think this bitcoin rise is mostly the "money" coming back to bitcoin after the main altcoin pumps were done. it is not exactly bitcoin coming back. it is however the start of bitcoin's come back. it will initiate the next rally now and will be followed by a big break out and a new ATH soon.
feeling pretty bullish right now...


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: txtravwill on January 06, 2018, 02:06:09 PM
i think this bitcoin rise is mostly the "money" coming back to bitcoin after the main altcoin pumps were done. it is not exactly bitcoin coming back. it is however the start of bitcoin's come back. it will initiate the next rally now and will be followed by a big break out and a new ATH soon.
feeling pretty bullish right now...

Feeling bullish and agree that this occurs, but BTC is bleeding out slowly again right now.  Can see XRP recovering some, pumping, etc.  Altcoins are recovering again, and will hit waves of up and down.  Each sharp downturn will net gains inn BTC though again so probably temporary, through the weekend is likely though I'd say.  I think the next big pumps for Bitcion will be if some institutional money does  finally start to invest - i.e. some ETFs, more futures somewhat, etc.  That may be 3+ months off at least though.

Stupid ripple :-/


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: jjacob on January 06, 2018, 02:12:57 PM
Bitcoin is back up $17,000 and with that nice move, the air has been sucked out of some of the hottest altcoins of the past month like XRP, XLM, ADA and more. Is now the time to lock in profits, buy the dip or something else? Let's talk about the day's action and what we might see in the future.

I would hardly say that Bitcoin is back, just because it moved up by 10%. We are still someway behind the previous All Time High of $20k and we have to cross that before we conclude anything. Ripple was trading at 20c a month back and now it is still trading above 3$. Ripple supporters (that weird group) will laugh at you if you tell them that the air has been sucked out of Ripple.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: BrewMaster on January 06, 2018, 03:58:40 PM
the $17000 resistance was broken and that showed that bitcoin still has lots of demand that is buying it regardless of what is going on in the media and social media FUDs.
but it didn't hold, although the drop was not big (it is still $16.5k), and at the same time the altcoin pumps are still young and ongoing which is attracting a lot of money. i say  bitcoin is back soon and when it breaks the $17.5k and goes to test the ATH this time.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: player514 on January 06, 2018, 07:36:28 PM
I bailed out of XRP when it reached $3.50 a piece and know that it woulfn't hold out for long since the pump is too obvious. Good thing when bitcoin hit $13k-$14k, I have my fiat ready at hand and bought a few. With the number of investors and traders of bitcoin growing, 2018 would still be bitcoin's year with alts on the side. Bitcoin will remain the top crypto since you can't get alts without it and not much exchange supports fiat deposits to directly trade with alts. 2018 will still be a fruitful year.

That's a really good call on your part. XRP is not going to go far in my opinion due to it's centralized nature. I like the way you look at the importance of bitcoin as a vehicle to purchase more altcoin. I've never really looked at it that way.

Bitcoin is back up $17,000 and with that nice move, the air has been sucked out of some of the hottest altcoins of the past month like XRP, XLM, ADA and more. Is now the time to lock in profits, buy the dip or something else? Let's talk about the day's action and what we might see in the future.

In terms of the future, I think it's guaranteed that we'll see some kind of drop or correction at the 20k resistance point. I don't think anyone really knows or can predict how bad it'll be, but I don't think it'll be as rough as what we saw end of last year. Now's a good time to buy, or if you're willing to take your chances, you can wait until we get to the resistance point and buy that drop that's likely to occur.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: Baofeng on January 06, 2018, 08:58:14 PM
Bitcoin is back up $17,000 and with that nice move, the air has been sucked out of some of the hottest altcoins of the past month like XRP, XLM, ADA and more. Is now the time to lock in profits, buy the dip or something else? Let's talk about the day's action and what we might see in the future.

Oh yeah, bitcoin is back but I don't think that altcoins will bleed heavily. What we are witnessing is somewhat new. Both bitcoin and altcoins can grow together. Which made me to conclude that there are more investors again flocking to the market after they all rested during the holidays. Japan and South Korea leading the new again. If altcoins are going to bleed in the next coming days, it will be slow and not a huge dump as everyone is expecting.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: ihsanskanzaone on January 06, 2018, 11:00:48 PM
You can pay attention on the exchange site if bitcoin prices go up, usually the altcoin price goes down and vice versa if bitcoin price goes down then altcoin rises, it's like a pattern to predict whether the coins will go up or down. Although the prediction is not 100% correct but it is more than enough to be a benchmark to know about the increase of bitcoin and altcoin.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: kolesozw on January 06, 2018, 11:51:02 PM
Bitcoin is back up $17,000 and with that nice move, the air has been sucked out of some of the hottest altcoins of the past month like XRP, XLM, ADA and more. Is now the time to lock in profits, buy the dip or something else? Let's talk about the day's action and what we might see in the future.

Alts are currently not sucked, because the market cap is increasing and even passed 800B for first time. And I think alts will continue to dominate the whole year. TBH I don't like this way too fast growth of the all coins. It's speculative and giving more food to haters and regulators.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: jseverson on January 07, 2018, 10:29:01 AM
And just like that, everybody loves BTC again.  It's funny how fickle the crowd is.  And annoying at the same time.

You can't really expect loyalty out of the majority. I mean, sure, each coin has its own appeal, with its own niche, but we're kidding ourselves if we don't admit that most people are in them for the money. Their features are useful for sure, and I'm sure people actually use them, but I would hazard a guess that they're being used for price speculation more than for actual utility.

The people go where the money is, and Bitcoin seems to be today's hot item. Truly annoying yes, but such is the crypto life lol.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: hugeblack on January 07, 2018, 10:41:40 AM
Bitcoin is back up $17,000 and with that nice move, the air has been sucked out of some of the hottest altcoins of the past month like XRP, XLM, ADA and more. Is now the time to lock in profits, buy the dip or something else? Let's talk about the day's action and what we might see in the future.
The time now on Hold and wait the best time for selling Bitcoin. Bitcoin back up after long red week and less than 13,000$.
bitcoin will keep gaining next 2 weeks and will up more than 20,000$ next 4 days.
New sellers must wait for next correction.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: aso118 on January 07, 2018, 03:01:54 PM
Bitcoin is back up $17,000 and with that nice move, the air has been sucked out of some of the hottest altcoins of the past month like XRP, XLM, ADA and more. Is now the time to lock in profits, buy the dip or something else? Let's talk about the day's action and what we might see in the future.

You are looking at the wrong metric, which is Bitcoin's price and are happy that it has rebounded. You will have to look at Bitcoin dominance, to find out how Bitcoin is doing in comparison to alts. And that has been on a downtrend from the start of December. Even in the last couple of days, while Bitcoin has risen, altcoin prices have risen even more. Bitcoin dominance is at a low of 34%.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: Denker on January 07, 2018, 03:09:12 PM
Bitcoin is back up $17,000 and with that nice move, the air has been sucked out of some of the hottest altcoins of the past month like XRP, XLM, ADA and more. Is now the time to lock in profits, buy the dip or something else? Let's talk about the day's action and what we might see in the future.

You are looking at the wrong metric, which is Bitcoin's price and are happy that it has rebounded. You will have to look at Bitcoin dominance, to find out how Bitcoin is doing in comparison to alts. And that has been on a downtrend from the start of December. Even in the last couple of days, while Bitcoin has risen, altcoin prices have risen even more. Bitcoin dominance is at a low of 34%.

No this is wrong what you are saying.
Marketcap as used right now is totally misleading and useless!
Therefore Bitcoin's dominance in that regard means nothing, or other way said, alts are not strong!!
Launch a shitcoin with a 100k coins, sell 10% of those to the market for 10 bucks each and keep the other 90%!!
Still the marketcap, as used right now, will say your coins are worth 1million in total.
Then go to korean exchanges, will zero to almost zero fees and inflate the price with 2-3 accounts playing ping pong with each other even more. That's what is done with many shitcoins right now. And you should know this!


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: Youghoor on January 07, 2018, 09:18:39 PM
And just like that, everybody loves BTC again.  It's funny how fickle the crowd is.  And annoying at the same time.

They are always following the money, it just makes me remember all those memes who the grandma's and old people were posting in facebook, like those guys running on a park following a batch of hundred's of dollars.

It is weird, but we all are always seeing how people are VERY desperated for money, they can do anything.

And this is the first proof of that, now that bitcoin is going up again, everybody is saying - Yeah, keep going up! I have never lost my faith on you!


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: malikusama on January 08, 2018, 07:33:54 AM
Bitcoin is back up $17,000 and with that nice move, the air has been sucked out of some of the hottest altcoins of the past month like XRP, XLM, ADA and more. Is now the time to lock in profits, buy the dip or something else? Let's talk about the day's action and what we might see in the future.
The air which was sucked out of altcoins will soon going to sucked out of bitcoin too by whales, when it will reach the next ATH. Not a move by bitcoin but this shift of investment is just a greedy move of big traders and whales, to be honest they don't care about bitcoin neither altcoins, they care about their wealth and they always want to create dumps after peak to buy them again at dips.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: kwukduck on January 08, 2018, 09:12:59 AM
LOL aaaand it's gone again.
Almost -10%
When will you guys learn that there is no future with this crippled system.
It does not scale.
It's infested with banksters that took control of it.

Just look how elegantly Raiblocks solves this bitcoin mess.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: tokeweed on January 08, 2018, 11:44:21 AM
^ Yup.  The market is really funny sometimes.  I could already imagine some people undecidedly clicking either the buy and sell buttons not really sure what to do.  Lol.

And wtf Raiblocks? 


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: buwaytress on January 08, 2018, 01:29:44 PM
^ Yup.  The market is really funny sometimes.  I could already imagine some people undecidedly clicking either the buy and sell buttons not really sure what to do.  Lol.

And wtf Raiblocks? 

I swear this is exactly what a lot of traders do. I'm now re-entering some of the spam groups I used to follow months back, just for the hell of it. To be fair, some of them put effort into TA, but as they should know by now, it's really a bit of luck into whether they're right or not. And it's "good" to see things haven't really changed: the most experienced people putting supposedly hours of work into analysis, and then getting excited or panicked depending on which big swing crypto decides to lean into.

Am really glad I've more or less stopped trading seriously. Better fun gambling!


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: cybersofts on January 09, 2018, 12:44:21 AM
Bitcoin is back up $17,000 and with that nice move, the air has been sucked out of some of the hottest altcoins of the past month like XRP, XLM, ADA and more. Is now the time to lock in profits, buy the dip or something else? Let's talk about the day's action and what we might see in the future.
Well, it appears there is a little market correction today that swiped nearly over 90% of the market. The market is looking all red no where to see green but red everywhere. I hope this kind of correction will not last longer because it ruins people day. The last time checked about bitcoin it was selling at about $14,700 and i don't whether the price go up or down by now.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: jakezyrus on January 09, 2018, 03:49:36 AM
^ Yup.  The market is really funny sometimes.  I could already imagine some people undecidedly clicking either the buy and sell buttons not really sure what to do.  Lol.

And wtf Raiblocks?  

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^ Yup.  The market is really funny sometimes.
whats so funny with it?  market volatility is not funny at all rather it is verry confusing and stressing on most of us because our money is always at risk at it.


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I could already imagine some people undecidedly clicking either the buy and sell buttons not really sure what to do.  Lol.
some people especially noobs or newbies are just panic selling whenever they see a specific change at the markets but most of us pioneers are always know what to do and have a full control on the current situation.

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And wtf Raiblocks?  
other guy thinks that raiblocks solve the problem of bitcoin because raiblock has no transaction fees when sending or recieving coins.



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Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
yeah right bitcoin is back and now up to game again. altcoins on the other hand is now declining again but still it still a good chance or moment to buy them as a part of our investment and trading portfolio.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: tokeweed on January 09, 2018, 10:04:36 AM
^ Rofl.  I mean I get it.  I trade in and out of alts to add to my BTC stash too.  But saying Raiblocks solves all of BTC's issues and almost insinuating that it's gonna be the next BTC is just...  well kinda dumb.

Raiblocks of all things.  Lol.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: btc_angela on January 09, 2018, 11:23:57 AM
The OP spoke too soon.

But this is just part of other market correction. Although some altcoins are also pushing, bitcoin remains dominant as of the moment. Patience its needed in this trying times.

^ Rofl.  I mean I get it.  I trade in and out of alts to add to my BTC stash too.  But saying Raiblocks solves all of BTC's issues and almost insinuating that it's gonna be the next BTC is just...  well kinda dumb.

Raiblocks of all things.  Lol.

LOL. Is this the same mrai claiming before? or I'm lost here? Yeah, but doing trading alts as well, been pretty good experience to trade and then stash more bitcoin. And if bitcoin surges again, win-win situation for bitcoin holders.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: bitbunnny on January 09, 2018, 12:32:34 PM
No altcoin will replace Bitcoin and take its number one and dominance. Still that doesn't mean you have to abandon altcoins just have to choose very carefuly which one to invest.
Altcoin market will expand further but altcoins will always stay just the second best.


Title: Re: Big Daddy Bitcoin is Back & Your Alts Might be Hurting Because of It
Post by: Pursuer on January 09, 2018, 12:52:13 PM
^ Rofl.  I mean I get it.  I trade in and out of alts to add to my BTC stash too.  But saying Raiblocks solves all of BTC's issues and almost insinuating that it's gonna be the next BTC is just...  well kinda dumb.

Raiblocks of all things.  Lol.

almost all the altcoins have made such claims about their coin fixing the issues that bitcoin is facing and only a handful of them have actually done something about it in reality not just advertising method...

I think I have said this before but if anything has any chance of competing with bitcoin it is these coins that are using DAG technology. of course Raiblocks is a combination of dPoS DAG+Blockchain!
they claim to have tested 7000 TPS on testnet how much it really can process? we don't know yet.
but also the issue that I find with the claim is that the test was done on a strong server capable of processing that many "connections" which is against decentralization...

or for example Byteball is a project that I like myself but so far you can not be a witness and that means the owner is setting them = centralized. if you are curious it only processes 20-30 TPS
same with the other one (IOTA) maybe a little more ~50 TPS.

not much improvement if you ask me.