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Title: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: solex on August 08, 2013, 02:21:08 AM
August 2013 has seen a rise in daily transactions to levels only previously seen during the immediate aftermath of the fall from $266 when many old coins came out of storage. In particular this is where popular addresses (Mt Gox, SatoshiDice etc) are excluded:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3709/9460627855_64833b2994_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/93641348@N04/9460627855/)
http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions-excluding-popular?showDataPoints=false&timespan=&show_header=true&daysAverageString=7&scale=0&address=

After a steady decline since the bubble-burst the overall transaction count has also climbed fast in recent days to 50,000 per day from a period of 35-40,000:
http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions?showDataPoints=false&timespan=&show_header=true&daysAverageString=7&scale=0&address=

Blockchain's wallet service also sees a recent increase:
http://blockchain.info/charts/my-wallet-n-tx?showDataPoints=false&timespan=&show_header=true&daysAverageString=7&scale=0&address=

Do you think this a reflection of real-world business increasing usage of bitcoin? Perhaps also from an uplift in Argentina, India and Kenya...?
Some hundreds of transactions are spam-like: large BTC amounts being moved pointlessly back and forward, but I am not sure this is a major factor.

Ideas?


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: jdbtracker on August 08, 2013, 04:16:37 AM
It could be a clear sign that summer is coming to an end... no more glory days in the sun; The dreary reality of fall and soon winter will be upon us, it may be a seasonal shift in behaviour as billions return to their computers to observe the lucky few who are doing something other than working.


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: KeyserSoze on August 08, 2013, 05:33:01 AM
also discussed...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253426.0


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: solex on August 08, 2013, 05:42:28 AM
also discussed...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253426.0

Yes. But this was happening in July when volumes were lower. Also, the transfers involve SD addresses which are excluded from the chart I posted.
https://blockchain.info/address/15Z4XmorKSN51ndyPrZ2EtL7Nnksb88888


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: drawingthesun on August 08, 2013, 05:54:26 AM
Based on relationship of volume of transactions and price of Bitcoin to USD, I suspect this means $40 Bitcoins are happening in September.

Time to sell!


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: guoweang on August 08, 2013, 06:00:25 AM
Could be another p&d. You heard it here first.


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: elor70 on August 08, 2013, 06:14:47 AM
Someone needs more  ASCIIS


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: Itcher on August 08, 2013, 07:27:58 AM
It could be a good sign, meaning, bitcoins are used more and more?


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: cr1776 on August 08, 2013, 10:33:01 AM
Those are limited to 128:
 ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII)


Someone needs more  ASCIIS


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: Zarathustra on August 08, 2013, 10:43:27 AM
August 2013 has seen a rise in daily transactions to levels only previously seen during the immediate aftermath of the fall from $266 when many old coins came out of storage. In particular this is where popular addresses (Mt Gox, SatoshiDice etc) are excluded:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=268882.0


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: virtualmaster on August 08, 2013, 02:42:15 PM
More people needs bitcoins.


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: seafarer124 on August 08, 2013, 03:35:47 PM
More people needs bitcoins.
Does that mean the price goes down and then returns later?


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: westkybitcoins on August 08, 2013, 04:51:11 PM
Not sure how much of it is going on, but perhaps at least part of it is the (alleged) de-anonymization spends someone is sending?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269231.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=254615.0


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: niothor on August 10, 2013, 10:28:38 AM
Another satoshi dice

Only this address has 10k transactions over the last 10 days (and is not in the top100)
http://blockchain.info/address/1Bet32kBtZzXViMs1PQHninHs4LADhCwtB?offset=10500&filter=0 (http://blockchain.info/address/1Bet32kBtZzXViMs1PQHninHs4LADhCwtB?offset=10500&filter=0)



Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: Stephen Gornick on August 13, 2013, 03:32:55 PM
Those upgrading to an Android wallet which fixes the random-number generator security issue will have "key replacement" transactions occurring, which will have some impact on the total transaction count.


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: totaleclipseofthebank on August 13, 2013, 11:42:57 PM
It could also be that all the bitcoins being mined by new ASIC miners are being sent to exchange accounts


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: DannyHamilton on August 14, 2013, 12:10:50 AM
It could also be that all the bitcoins being mined by new ASIC miners are being sent to exchange accounts

And the ones mined by GPU miners weren't?


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: jehst on August 14, 2013, 12:30:45 AM
I would say gambling has something to do with it. A lot of sites have popped up where people make lots of tiny gambles.


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: Darktongue on August 14, 2013, 03:28:17 AM


 Well folks are useing it.  Buying miners paying for parts.  Buying old gpu rig parts and some new.  All kinds of shit being sold.  I believe a few wised up to cashing out to these central sources. I believe some of the fear of tradeing for goods has expired.  Atleast in the action of doing it.

I think it's sinking in that privacy is not a right it's a privlage. If you take s loan from anyone.  You waive the right to a private existence from pestering calls, letters and courts. Yiu r credit go's fuck and nobody wants to deal with you when it comes to serious shit.

It's no different here but we do not have access to a collections service. So what happens instead?  A whole page of info.  The who what and where of a person.  Sometimes worse then what a collections agent would do.  Bitcoiners will call your fucking mom man!

I think that knee jerk community reaction to a problem allows for more secure feelings.  Along with escrow it's pretty awesome what's been done.  I also feel $100  Bitcoin does it for people.  It's simple fraction and holy shit easy to work with on the fly. I believe the community as a whole agrees on that.  Abd thus itnhas stayed at or around $100.

I think people need to quit being dipshits and trying to sell booze,  contraband and other federal nasties within the US or to people in the US. If it's legal elsewhere then cool.  Make it so people in those areas can grab those things.  I know elements such as that detract from the plan.  But if we don't do some of our own policeing someone else not so nice will.


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: Plazmotech on August 14, 2013, 07:50:09 AM
Simple: The stability.

Stability makes Bitcoin not look like a Ponzi-scheme. Stability makes Bitcoin look like a viable currency. Stability reduces the chance of monetary loss.

As a result, more amounts of Bitcoins are being bought from many more different people, and spent.


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: BTCurious on August 14, 2013, 08:04:04 AM
Simple: The stability.

Stability makes Bitcoin not look like a Ponzi-scheme. Stability makes Bitcoin look like a viable currency. Stability reduces the chance of monetary loss.

As a result, more amounts of Bitcoins are being bought from many more different people, and spent.
So yeah, stability makes the price rise, destroying stability :D


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: Hfleer on August 14, 2013, 09:46:31 AM

After a steady decline since the bubble-burst he overall transaction count has also climbed fast in recent days to 50,000 per day from a period of 35-40,000:
http://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions?showDataPoints=false&timespan=&show_header=true&daysAverageString=7&scale=0&address=

Blockchain's wallet service also sees a recent increase:
http://blockchain.info/charts/my-wallet-n-tx?showDataPoints=false&timespan=&show_header=true&daysAverageString=7&scale=0&address=

Do you think this a reflection of real-world business increasing usage of bitcoin? Perhaps also from an uplift in Argentina, India and Kenya...?
Some hundreds of transactions are spam-like: large BTC amounts being moved pointlessly back and forward, but I am not sure this is a major factor.

Ideas?



Thanks for posting haven't looked at this chart in a while.  Maybe the growing number of faucets and stocks could be playing a part as well.


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: Plazmotech on August 14, 2013, 07:24:07 PM
Simple: The stability.

Stability makes Bitcoin not look like a Ponzi-scheme. Stability makes Bitcoin look like a viable currency. Stability reduces the chance of monetary loss.

As a result, more amounts of Bitcoins are being bought from many more different people, and spent.
So yeah, stability makes the price rise, destroying stability :D

Nope. Buying does not necessarily increase the prices.

If person A is selling 1 BTC for $100

And person B buys 1 BTC for $100

The price will not change

The price will only change if both

I  ) Sellers sell for higher prices
II ) Buyers are willing to buy for higher prices

And more importantly, if a greater amount of users come and they each buy less, the price will also not rise. If a few people buy a ton, the price will probably rise.


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: solex on August 17, 2013, 12:33:51 AM
Yesterday saw an all time high for the number of daily Bitcoin transactions: 72,278 (as measured by Blockchain.info).
https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions

The gambling site BetCoin seems to have a high volume lately, however, the record number of current news items, over 110,000 picked up by Google News, indicates a sustained level of real-world interest which must be driving some extra usage.




Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: freedomno1 on August 17, 2013, 12:37:33 AM
Well Russia Today had a positive article for bitcoin but not sure of the impact


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: Hfleer on August 17, 2013, 12:56:23 PM
Well Russia Today had a positive article for bitcoin but not sure of the impact

Can you provide a link?  How popular is the newspaper in question?


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: Elwar on August 17, 2013, 03:40:34 PM
Simple: The stability.

Stability makes Bitcoin not look like a Ponzi-scheme. Stability makes Bitcoin look like a viable currency. Stability reduces the chance of monetary loss.

As a result, more amounts of Bitcoins are being bought from many more different people, and spent.
So yeah, stability makes the price rise, destroying stability :D

Before the bubble it was a common scenario for stability to be fuel for the rocket.


Title: Re: Sudden rise in Bitcoin transaction numbers - any theories why?
Post by: freedomno1 on August 17, 2013, 04:30:49 PM
Well Russia Today had a positive article for bitcoin but not sure of the impact

Can you provide a link?  How popular is the newspaper in question?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276452.0;topicseen

 On a sidenote watch rt now and then and you may see a bitcoin discussion
Popularity high