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Title: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: johntrichfield on January 07, 2018, 02:26:32 AM
What would they use it for?


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: pooya87 on January 07, 2018, 04:32:01 AM
it could be a lot of different reasons!

but mostly they do it because in the past there has been altcoin airdrops based on the amount of bitcoin you had at a specific time (at a block height). for example if you had any bitcoin by the time bitcore fork happened (block #463604) you also have the same amount of bitcore (of course in this case i think the claiming period has ended).

there are a lot of these and to claim any of them you do need private keys.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: Asuspawer09 on January 07, 2018, 04:53:30 AM
What would they use it for?

Selling bitcoin is kinda creepy scheme. You are not sure about ita background. May be those where accounts soon to be banned. But what makes you attracted to by it is of its ranks so you must not let yourself be captured by it. Much better if you are to create your own account rather buying. It is a lot safer and better.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: Jerusareth on January 07, 2018, 05:03:16 AM
it could be a lot of different reasons!

but mostly they do it because in the past there has been altcoin airdrops based on the amount of bitcoin you had at a specific time (at a block height). for example if you had any bitcoin by the time bitcore fork happened (block #463604) you also have the same amount of bitcore (of course in this case i think the claiming period has ended).

there are a lot of these and to claim any of them you do need private keys.

I thought that airdrops only applies if you hold a specific amount of your Bitcoin and not what you had.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: hardtime on January 07, 2018, 05:06:13 AM
it could be a lot of different reasons!

but mostly they do it because in the past there has been altcoin airdrops based on the amount of bitcoin you had at a specific time (at a block height). for example if you had any bitcoin by the time bitcore fork happened (block #463604) you also have the same amount of bitcore (of course in this case i think the claiming period has ended).

there are a lot of these and to claim any of them you do need private keys.


They could be going for this, or they could be praying that the addy that they're buying is stolen. So in the off chance that some more Bitcoin comes to the address at some point they're going to get some money. The chances may be slim but it could be worthwhile for someone to try to grab some BTC at this high of a price.

it could be a lot of different reasons!

but mostly they do it because in the past there has been altcoin airdrops based on the amount of bitcoin you had at a specific time (at a block height). for example if you had any bitcoin by the time bitcore fork happened (block #463604) you also have the same amount of bitcore (of course in this case i think the claiming period has ended).

there are a lot of these and to claim any of them you do need private keys.



I thought that airdrops only applies if you hold a specific amount of your Bitcoin and not what you had.
It matters about how much BTC they had at the time of the fork, that's it.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: pooya87 on January 07, 2018, 05:30:06 AM
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I thought that airdrops only applies if you hold a specific amount of your Bitcoin and not what you had.

different airdrops use different rules. some may have a minimal amount of bitcoin, for example they may only give you their coin if you have 0.1BTC at least. but the timing is always a part of it.

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They could be going for this, or they could be praying that the addy that they're buying is stolen. So in the off chance that some more Bitcoin comes to the address at some point they're going to get some money. The chances may be slim but it could be worthwhile for someone to try to grab some BTC at this high of a price.

as i said there may be a lot of different reasons for this.
for example you should be able to find the master private key (seed) if you have a couple of private keys which were generated from that seed. so if you have a deterministic wallet and reveal a couple of your private keys, they may empty your whole wallet.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: h0lybyte on January 07, 2018, 05:36:24 AM
We know several hard foks have been taken place in past two yeasr, forked currencies like bitcoin cash, bitcoin gold were distributed according to your bitcoin balance existed during fork For example, if you had 1 bitcoin in your wallet during fork time, you would have received 1 bitcoin cash in your wallet.
Some websites buy these wallets to get forket currencies out of those wallet, you can sell your wallets on http://www.freebitcoins.com/


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: sarfwr on January 07, 2018, 05:41:14 AM
What would they use it for?
It may be to obtain a certain fork currency, because the snapshot is finished, or money laundering, falsification data.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: Jerusareth on January 07, 2018, 06:38:18 AM
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I thought that airdrops only applies if you hold a specific amount of your Bitcoin and not what you had.

different airdrops use different rules. some may have a minimal amount of bitcoin, for example they may only give you their coin if you have 0.1BTC at least. but the timing is always a part of it.

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They could be going for this, or they could be praying that the addy that they're buying is stolen. So in the off chance that some more Bitcoin comes to the address at some point they're going to get some money. The chances may be slim but it could be worthwhile for someone to try to grab some BTC at this high of a price.

as i said there may be a lot of different reasons for this.
for example you should be able to find the master private key (seed) if you have a couple of private keys which were generated from that seed. so if you have a deterministic wallet and reveal a couple of your private keys, they may empty your whole wallet.

I have a 0.70+ Bitcoin with my Electrum wallet before the Bitcoin Cash was created does it mean I am still eligible with their airdrop?


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: CryptosapienZA on January 07, 2018, 06:44:02 AM
Woow we live, we learn. I was not even aware of this trend. The seller would obviously be ignorant of that airdrop otherwise why would he sell if he can claim the airdrop coins for himself.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: pusa aso on January 07, 2018, 06:50:37 AM
What would they use it for?
in this time it is so hard to join bitcoin,thats why they are asking those people who want to sell their bitcoin addresses.but for me i would rather keep my bitcoin and just keep on earning.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: eaLiTy on January 07, 2018, 06:58:25 AM
Quote from: Jerusareth link=topic=2701958.msg27629998#msg27629998
I have a 0.70+ Bitcoin with my Electrum wallet before the Bitcoin Cash was created does it mean I am still eligible with their airdrop?
If you were holding the coins at the time of snap shot of the block chain then you are still eligible to claim your bitcoin cash .First move your bitcoin to a safe wallet then use that private key in a bitcoin cash wallet and claim your coins ,it is a simple process but make sure your bitcoin is safe before doing anything.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: pinoyden on January 07, 2018, 07:02:44 AM
they use those old bitcoin adress in order to dig clam because clam has also a value that they could sell in order to get a profit out of them. currently the price of one clam coin is $11.83  based on CoinMarketCap. however you can also try to dig clam by yourself using your own old bitcoin adress but it could also takes time to do.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: copperminer on January 07, 2018, 07:08:09 AM
i think the most two common forks/UTXO are:
- CLAM, which is a UTXO fork (addresses prior to May 24th, 2014)
- BCC prioir to Block 478558.
- Bitcoin Gold prior to block 491407.
see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bitcoin_forks.

I know there are many services offer to convert the funds into btc, but basically you just would need to know when you had which balance of coins.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: Rubick99 on January 07, 2018, 07:09:10 AM
I just knew peoples need old Bitcoin address to claim clam coin, that why peoples bought some old Bitcoin address. And the price of claim coin is 0.0007BTC at this time.  I believe this will going up again


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on January 07, 2018, 07:11:55 AM
i had more than 10 old wallet create june 2014 in web wallet blockchain . but i dont know this worth to sell or not . cause i dont get anything too.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: Kakmakr on January 07, 2018, 09:31:46 AM
A lot of people are also doing this to fool people into believing that they were early investors. If you can sign an early address, people will believe that you were invested during that period. Most people will not even think that you bought it online.

Scammers will use this as a tool to scam people into believing that they are rich or that they have access to lots of old coins.

Early investors are also admired for their courage to take risks in the days when Bitcoin was still a very high risk investment. <Brag rights>


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: Caesar-Giulius on January 07, 2018, 09:40:35 AM
Most likely, it is for claiming airdrops. There were plenty of airdrops in the past and not everyone know all airdrops.

A lot of people are also doing this to fool people into believing that they were early investors. If you can sign an early address, people will believe that you were invested during that period. Most people will not even think that you bought it online.

Scammers will use this as a tool to scam people into believing that they are rich or that they have access to lots of old coins.

Early investors are also admired for their courage to take risks in the days when Bitcoin was still a very high risk investment. <Brag rights>

Very possible reason, I didn’t think of this. Thanks dude.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: Lemer on January 07, 2018, 09:41:17 AM
These smart guys, they can pick up some forks, which is obviously a smart thing to do.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: dx_twisted on January 07, 2018, 10:00:37 AM
they use those old bitcoin adress in order to dig clam because clam has also a value that they could sell in order to get a profit out of them. currently the price of one clam coin is $11.83  based on CoinMarketCap. however you can also try to dig clam by yourself using your own old bitcoin adress but it could also takes time to do.

I never knew that Clam could be mined or digged through old Bitcoin addresses. To be honest, I was not even aware that there are people who are willing to buy these old addresses for the sake of it. I'm not even pretty sure before what was the purpose of buying. I thought that they prefer the old ones as personal wallet since they are the most secured ones. Anyways, is it really worth buying it? How much is the cost of these old addresses and the profits it could bring by digging clams? I might start buying if it is really profitable to do so.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: BitcoinHunt3r on January 07, 2018, 10:04:12 AM
usually they use it to get some Clamcoin, actually its already happened for long time. but this time they're booming again especially with some forks. if me i wouldn't sell any of my addresses for something like that


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: Klestar on January 07, 2018, 01:54:10 PM
allegedly they are using it to dig clams and sell to make profit out of it . I am curious now what the clam is, is it a currency ? or a coin?  i might be doing research for that and i think old wallets are valuable than other coins because its old and only limited can have that.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: reck1ess on January 07, 2018, 02:14:43 PM
Is it for any wallet or they are buying bitcoin addresses with a specific wallet?
I'm just curious.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: Thasins61 on January 07, 2018, 02:38:03 PM
The reasons why the user purchases many old addresses, but most of these addresses are useless, which means that the purpose of using them will not be good.
Many Scammers need old address to prove they make old deals and get some trust.
also airdrops and new forks may be other reason.
Some are trying to use these addresses to prove that they have enough record and experience and therefore more confidence, especially in good sites that try to gain confidence as quickly as possible.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: reck1ess on January 07, 2018, 02:45:38 PM
Many Scammers need old address to prove they make old deals and get some trust.
also airdrops and new forks may be other reason.

This make sense. Reading about replies about forks makes me confused. Although I'm still interested on how it works. But it make sense for scammer to buy old address to use as fake proof.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: johntrichfield on January 07, 2018, 04:07:12 PM
That makes sense. Thanks guys!


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: rajuahmed330 on January 07, 2018, 04:26:51 PM
There may be several reasons, for keeping the account secure in the midst of it, for the transaction to get faster, for the trx fees reduction. There may be many other reasons. For safety.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: jackolinyoko on January 07, 2018, 04:32:19 PM
They want some forked coins in the past that might not be claimed yet thats why they are buying old addresses.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: greeklogos on January 07, 2018, 04:36:05 PM
it could be a lot of different reasons!

but mostly they do it because in the past there has been altcoin airdrops based on the amount of bitcoin you had at a specific time (at a block height). for example if you had any bitcoin by the time bitcore fork happened (block #463604) you also have the same amount of bitcore (of course in this case i think the claiming period has ended).

there are a lot of these and to claim any of them you do need private keys.
I am pretty new here and it's the first time I hear something like that! Never thought that airdrops are spreading on the amount of coins of some past period of times. Very interesting! I am happy I learnt something new today  :)


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: guxu219 on January 18, 2018, 02:47:16 AM
usually they use it to get some Clamcoin, actually its already happened for long time. but this time they're booming again especially with some forks. if me i wouldn't sell any of my addresses for something like that
Yeah I’ve seen a bunch of people wanting the clam for owning BITCOIN a long long time ago, you get like $20 worth of clam for having an address


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: sunno330 on January 18, 2018, 03:02:13 AM
Because they used that btc address in everywhere for same address. Dev team can't think for bad or false. So people use their old bitcoin address.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: obinine on January 18, 2018, 03:04:50 AM
Apart from clam and other forks some people need old used address to say launder money without say causing a lot of awareness by making it look real


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: morrisby25 on January 18, 2018, 03:40:11 AM
Mainly so people can claim clam and some other forked coins. That’s why they only accept “some” private keys aka ones that don’t have any clam claimed


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: PalindromemordnilaP on January 18, 2018, 03:52:19 AM
I don't care if they bought it for a good reason because for me, buying those addresses to your own advantage is not a challenging one to earn a profit. I rather have to use my own than buying one since it is a very nice feeling to earn from scratch.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: wilhb81 on January 18, 2018, 04:01:34 AM
they use those old bitcoin adress in order to dig clam because clam has also a value that they could sell in order to get a profit out of them. currently the price of one clam coin is $11.83  based on CoinMarketCap. however you can also try to dig clam by yourself using your own old bitcoin adress but it could also takes time to do.

You're so right about the CLAM's statement. The reason why many people looking for old Bitcoin addresses - because they're using those accounts to dig/mine CLAM. Even though the price of CLAM is not tremendously high, but $10 per CLAM is still consider Ok...


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: BitcoinPanther on January 18, 2018, 04:05:35 AM
What would they use it for?

there are several forks that happen in Bitcoin, people buy old bitcoin address to try their lock to at least redeem the forked coins of the said address.  I do not see any reason except that one.  I also tried it myself, redeeming forked coins like BCH, BTG, Segwit2x .  And  it is worth the effort :).


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: lite on January 18, 2018, 04:12:12 AM
What would they use it for?

there are several forks that happen in Bitcoin, people buy old bitcoin address to try their lock to at least redeem the forked coins of the said address.  I do not see any reason except that one.  I also tried it myself, redeeming forked coins like BCH, BTG, Segwit2x .  And  it is worth the effort :).
It's worth the effort if they had balance and the seller of the address doesn't know about forks and stuffs, then you get lucky. simply buying an old bitcoin address that didn't had any BTC on it at the time of fork makes it useless. if i remember correctly even for CLAM there was one rule that it must have had a dust balance to be able to claim it.


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: Stratobitz on February 03, 2018, 01:19:11 PM
We know several hard foks have been taken place in past two yeasr, forked currencies like bitcoin cash, bitcoin gold were distributed according to your bitcoin balance existed during fork For example, if you had 1 bitcoin in your wallet during fork time, you would have received 1 bitcoin cash in your wallet.
Some websites buy these wallets to get forked currencies out of those wallet, you can sell your wallets on http://www.freebitcoins.com/

This thread just caught my eye. I ran two full nodes, back when I had a pretty decent sized mining farm.

We wrote a script that literally generated 1000s, maybe 10s of 1000s of BTC addresses.

They were used as single burners, long term wallets, receiving addresses for things we sold here on the forum.

Is there any easy way to do a scan on a huge amount of addresses (such as a csv upload) to see if the addresses would qualify for any of these fork bonuses.

I was aware of the Clam distribution. Because of the requirements we didn't have that many that ended up receiving CLAMs, but the addresses we made date back to 2014ish mostly, and 2015.

Do these have value?  Do old addresses which were created on the network and broadcast but never used to receive (0 balance) have value?

Just asking out of curiosity... as we have so many.

Thanks for your help!

Strato


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: Stratobitz on February 03, 2018, 01:21:02 PM
What would they use it for?

there are several forks that happen in Bitcoin, people buy old bitcoin address to try their lock to at least redeem the forked coins of the said address.  I do not see any reason except that one.  I also tried it myself, redeeming forked coins like BCH, BTG, Segwit2x .  And  it is worth the effort :).
It's worth the effort if they had balance and the seller of the address doesn't know about forks and stuffs, then you get lucky. simply buying an old bitcoin address that didn't had any BTC on it at the time of fork makes it useless. if i remember correctly even for CLAM there was one rule that it must have had a dust balance to be able to claim it.

With CLAMs, (I know because we checked) it had to have (don't remember the exact amount); but a balance greater than X Dust.

So an account that held 0.00002400 was not credited Clams.  I can't remember the figure, but I am sure it's on the Clam OP Thread.

Cheers!

Strato


Title: Re: Why do people buy old bitcoin addresses?
Post by: PsylockReborn on February 03, 2018, 01:34:06 PM
Luckily I bumped to this thread cos I really dont know why people buying old bitcoin addresses. Thanks for enlightening me guys!! happy hodling!! have a great day guys!! :)