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Since New Year a funny thing has happened well for that matter since Goldman-Sachs came out with their derivative futures for BITCOIN, it has gone no where but trading in a very tight window,

On the other hand the alt's, especially equihash like HUSH, .. are up 5X

Hell even the SHIT-COIN either etherum with +70% pre-mined ( almost 4million of  the 4.8 million in circ were pre-mined ), even that dog is up 2X for NY

It's obvious that all cash is now flowing to alt's the NEW MONEY ain't buying BITCOIN.

Z-Classic is up like 20X in a few weeks, what is up with that? There are dozens of same-same shit as this z-coin

Lot's of plays here, our own BITCOIN-Z which is much better than bitcoin-gold and is just waiting to rocket to the moon, when discovered.

lmao, I guess you are still in your dreams... keep dreaming ;D

Bitcoin is just sleeping, and when it wakes up, it will pick up and wait. ;D

Maybe it's a cycle, sometimes bitcoin rises and sometimes it drops while other altcoins do. But wait, sometimes bitcoin & altcoins both drop and rise simultaneously.

I'm pretty sure it's because of unit bias, whereas the new people are thinking like:
"Bitcoin is at $17,000, it's quite expensive; whereas Cardano is only at around $1. $10 soon! To the moon!"

Something like that, not taking in to account that most coin's circulating supply is too high to reach high dollar prices.

Just give him a break mate, he probably has a lot of investment in alts, but bitcoin will not die, actually its making some kind of rally of as late, is pushing to $17K now. However, alts is still going up, which means money is flocking to the market. Its good news to everyone.


Of course, it just move sideways but sooner it will rise up again as what we have been seeing in the last couple of days. And we all know that when bitcoin wakes up, it will go on a massive bull run again.

I guess that you are a little bit wrong.The newbies are thinking:"All the bankers and financial experts are warning-Don`t invest in btc,it`s a bubble and it will burst soon.All the governments are submitting more and more regulations over bitcoin.Nobody is talking about altcoins,so their prices might skyrocket".
The pump&dump investors are moving away from btc,and this is something good.

...dead? It has been recovering fairly well. Not all time high well, but well enough considering the transaction fee problem.

Either way, you're kind of a little late. There was a period a few days ago when Bitcoin was flatlining while everything else was gaining momentum. You should have posted then, maybe you'd have a few sympathizers lol. If everyone didn't think Bitcoin was dead then, they sure as hell won't now.

I personally don't see alts growing as threats. Crypto money mostly stays within crypto, so those could make their way into Bitcoin in the future. I'm sure a lot of them would once Bitcoin's scalability issues is addressed. With all this Lightning hype, that could be very soon.

yes, bitcoin just fall asleep, i do not believe bitcoin die, and i also do not believe that altcoin will increase.
but bitcoin will be to the moon and other altcoin will increase, but can not chase bitcoin.

I'm not sure about that. Bitcoin is just correcting its course because of the previous hard pump.

Take a look at the price of bitcoin and the number of its investors does it look like death to you? Seems to me you are not analyzing it carefully.

yes i agree and i can also see in my two big eyes that most altcoins and tokens are still sky rocketing and seems going to the moon directly but i woudnt agree with you when you say bitcoin is dead because as i see right now bitcoin is still continues to recover from his injury last week.  yet i still believe that altcoins hype is still temporary and they should fall down again sooner or later but not on btcoin because bitcoin is already proven and tested to pump substantially despite on all the factors that may affects him.

Indeed we do have an opinion and predict from what that we know, and of course our opinion would be different opinions and predictions :).
It seems indeed now Altcoins looks like in the best of its price developments, but I don't think it causes bitcoin would be dead and neglected, I'm sure there are still many people who are interested on investing in bitcoin and making efforts that can be gain a various profits with bitcoin, so that its value will still stay at altitude above all altcoins.
Altcoins is experiencing a high price., I don't think that would be a threat to bitcoin, bitcoin will remain the king because of its popularity and still known by many people in the world.

I mean, I agree with your reason on why people are moving to alts, but that isn't the only reason. There could be a dozen reasons why people currently prefer alts, my reason and your reason included. But I'm pretty sure the sole reason is because of higher chances of profitability on altcoins, since a good number of alts are quite low in value that it can more likely double or triple faster compared to the top coins.

I was actually just reading an article like this, where people get too consumed with the price itself and fail to look at PERCENTAGE gains -- which are of course everything when it comes to investing.

But yes, people now think that because all of these new alts are hitting the top 10 and are overtaking one another (all while increasing in alts market cap) But most of the coins that are new in the top 10 have NO ACTUAL USAGE - Tron, XRP, etc.

Bitcoin is the only thing here that matters, you MUST remember that.

many alts are currently pumped and will be dumped soon. that doesn't mean there aren't alts worth investing in you just have to find the right ones.

Alts are up because of the investment inflow and positive vibes around them because bitcoin's network is facing a massive scaling issue. So people are moving to alts because they are technologically superior and offers almost free transactions with instant transactions. Bitcoin has become an investment asset. But if you think bitcoin is dead, please transfer all your bitcoins to me and I promise to take good care of them. Surely we have diverted from the initial goal of bitcoin of being a decentralized p2p transaction facilitator, but bitcoin offered enormous return on investment since last two years. So bitcoin looks really good for investment and certainly not dead yet.

I agree with this and we should also thank that altcoins are now given the chance to grow their own value when Inhibitor has not yet been back into the surging game. I have Bitcoin and I have altcoins too and since they are all growing then am very much happy...even Bitcoin for the past three days has already shown some action so calling it dead is a great insult...Bitcoin is just stabilizing (isn't stability what many are looking for and not volatility?).

I'd have to disagree with that mate. Not all cryptocurrencies are aiming to achieve the same goal as bitcoin. Some(probably 1% of all existing cryptocurrencies) are actually decent and has a shot of being a successful service; like Sia's decentralized encrypted cloud storage, Ethereum's smart contracts, etc.

So yea, BTCitcoin is NOT the only thing that matters.

I know a lot of alt coin is rising and the rising is very high, but that is just the game of pumpe and dump group, once they done they will find other coin, so alt coin for them is just a toy, they not using it, bitcoin is different, people really use bitcoin for transaction, that's why bitcoin price couldn't suddenly drop a lot, if the price  drop a lot the recovery will be very  quick, I still think btc is better for long term investment

I was told not to mention anything about activity tokens, but when I saw OP talking about HUSH, I can no longer keep this a secret, I would like to present to you all, the activity token, better and faster, will kill Bitcoin if you with your same bullshit coin wont do it sooner.

Fully fledged lol coin, railblock coin airdropped 70% among their own alt accounts, dozens of other shitcoins, coins owned by exchanges,  specially major exchanges with their own coins, pumping the price and making Billions in trading volume, they claim one thing, their coin is better than Bitcoin.

Hear this from a dev, when you know your coin is better than Bitcoin, buy and keep them all, I did the same, currently I'm holding 20.6M out of 21M total supply of activity token. lol before rofling to warm up.

It's not dead and I don't get why people always like to use that term when btc is having a dip or correction. Bitcoin is just resting but I agree that alts are the ones who are unstoppable now and it's always green.

Alt's gogo , let the bitcoin die quitly, sorry bro you had your moment but we cannit stand you anymore , bye bye!

Bitcoin will not be dead no matter what. It has already become a global Cryptocurrency standard which will not collapse in the near future. Yes, you can't build tokens on bitcoin and there are no direct usage for bitcoin but this actually makes it more like an actual currency compared to any other coins out there.

Every coin depends on Bitcoin and the price is biggest than any other. Do you think it should have to rise all the time or forever? There are lots of people who want to make profit and then spend offline.
Bitcoin won't die easily as it will be hitting big in this year. A lot of coins already moving ahead so why not BTC?

for me i wouldn't say that bitcoin is already dead.
there are a lot of people who have already put their trust on it.
and most of the newcomers nowadays in cryptocurrency had their eyes only in bitcoin.
so it will not be impossible that one day we will again be seeing a rise for it.

I don't really understand why you're so surprised last year to it was the same situation before bitcoins shot up. Bitcoins tend to have a lazy year at the start of the year. Last year it took of slow and then it just shot up that's what matters too me is when will it shoot up and not that few days and it's not yet up. As for all the alts people like to diversify and that's all. Nothing great about alts.

Ok see this right here is a perfect example of what the problem is with bitcoin or how op says other crypto currencies are getting a better return.  The fact the price of bitcoin has really not fluctuated more than 10 percent in the last werk is a good thing i say. Then again i am wanting for it to succeed instead of just another day traders money dream.

you have to think in this way, who is supporting each coin? and in particular, how long it will last? it's just a pump to get some gain from altcoins or really community switched to a different coin?
it has been like this every second week, for a week or two a different alt is getting attention by the investors, price skyrocket, whales sell and move to a different coin which is not happening for BTC, people invest, do trades but mostly HOLD.
Ride the altcoin waves while it last because it wont last long.

For me I think it just depends on finding the right Altcoins, there are many that will be around for a long time just like btc.

I don't think you're totally right now the currency could be a problem but I believe it will continue to improve, the value of he can't be denied if you think the currency is dead, please give me your I will help you take care of it

I am with you here, except one thing, Bitcoin is NOT DEAD!
Altcoins are increasing because people had come to realize that there is much more potential in Altcoins for profit rather than holding Bitcoin.

Seems like BTC has gone too expensive and a move of $1,000 is 7%, while a move of $1 on other altcoins make a 100% growth.

Bitcoin is still the expensive crypto so you can't say bitcoin is dead.I agree with that most of the altcoins are skyrocketing but I think this is just a temporary wave soon bitcoin will grab it's place.I think this problem started with the bitcoin transaction fee and still expensive so people are looking for alternative coins.But people can use segWit address for cheaper transaction.
We also have to watch the ETH can call as silent killer the price of ethereum is silently increase and today it reached  $1219 and still increasing.

No ! Bitcoin is not dead i think it will become more profitable now because the bitcoin is very volatile now as far as you see it will go high and it will go down again so its more good if you know all about trading because you will get more money in bitcoin and i knoe that some people says bitcoin is dead this is a only FUD.

This happens in Crypto while Bitcoin stays idle the Altcoins rise and while Bitcoin rises the Altcoins bleed. Don't you remember how bad the Altcoins were bleeding when Bitcoin was rising during its Bitcoin Gold fork. Its a part of the Crypto game and this is how people make money.
Some win the game while the others loose. This time Bitcoin is moving slowly and I am pretty much sure it will ROAR when it's time comes.
Bitcoin will skyrocket with a bang and will soon cross the $20k, $25k and $30k targets by the end of the year.

Bitcoin has recovered as well. We should see some movements soon. Altcoins might lose ground in favor of Bitcoin and Bitcoin will reach all times high again!

Bitcoins is not dead but just that new altcoins through ICO is much profitable and rational traders are now diversifying their investment. This has caused the volume of bitcoins to be reduce to join altcoins. However , marketcap of cryptocurrency hasn't reduced.

Bitcoin is already back again, I don't think it will be dead anytime soon. Alts will always stay below the level of bitcoin, sorry mate. As we can see, alts were pumped because traders are now diversifying their investments.

Bitcoin is not dead but just sleeping and take a rest before begin to skyrocket again. Bitcoin is not greedy and let the other altcoin grow too following itself.
After all people focus on altcoin then bitcoin will get up and to the moon. Lets see.

Exactly, I personally don't buy the big coins like BTC and ETH unless for transaction use. I am more into cheaper coins with lower cap so the gain could be larger if the project is potential.  ;D

$ 17.000 Expensive for Bitcoin? It had already been to $ 20.000.

17k is still a good price.

Not agree! The Bitcoin is not Dead. I think it's cross $20000 within few weeks or at the end of Jan 2018.

Beginning a period of strong growth of the Altcoin, when there are many altcoin are going to go to the moon, too many Altcoin began to end. Bitcoin does not continue to rise so high is the chance for too much Altcoin wants to raise prices.

Bitcoin isn't dead by any means. I'm sure you could make tons of money with altcoins right now because of the pump and dumps, but thats the difference between the two, bitcoin is somehow stable while altcoins are always more risky. We just have to wait and see, but as far as my opinion goes, we might see bitcoin rise up to new all time highs soon

Bitcoin will still be the leading cryptocurrency. A slowing down of its price does not translate to the death of the currency. You watch and see and discover that your analysis is not holistic and all encompassing.

I really suggest all of you to spend 5’ reading this article :

https://www.coindesk.com/weathering-altcoin-shitstorm-investing-next-one/

It’s really a good analysis...

BITCOIN is and will remain the KING !

Bitcoin has gone through ups and downs and prove day in and day out that it will still stand as the face of cryptocurrencies. But, we shouldn't just rely in holding it and hope that it will still continue to rise. Not everything in this world, including digital stuffs are constant. There will be a time that it might reach the ceiling and has nowhere to go but slide down. No one wants that to really happen, with that case, it's time to give Altcoins the awareness they deserve. They also bring profits through trading, it's time not to hate the flaws of one another. Instead, be optimistic as there are other opportunities that awaits us.

the cycle of digital currency routine, not so shocked by the things that happened, because BTC and Altcoin go back and forth opposite

All that alt money will find its way to bitcoin soon. The lightning network will be a game changer, both in how bitcoin works and its value :)

Many coins rised fastly, some of them rised 5x in weeks but never forget that Bitcoin already increased by 18x during the last months.
After few weeks these coins will have no value, so it is not fair to compare them with Bitcoin which, even when its price drop down, it remains the number one in the market.

I wonder when this lightning network will be implemented? It will surely silence the alts if a change of bitcoin's transactions and high fees will be done.