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Title: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: paxmao on January 07, 2018, 05:56:25 PM
There are many threads that ask for advice to select good ICOs, but it is as important to discard the bad ones. For me the "red flags" that lead me to run away are teams that are not experienced, rates that are not adjusted to the price of ETH or BTC and undisclosed term for private sales.

What makes you red flag a project?


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: partysumo on January 07, 2018, 06:00:41 PM
If the dev team is not willing to put themselves out there, buy publishing their names, providing their previous experience and so on, leads me to think something is fishy. Also, the ANN thread has to be visually pleasing as well. I know the contents of a whitepaper is more important, lacking professionalism and visuals in the ANN thread may indicate that the team is not taking everything related to an ICO seriously enough.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: rost1989 on January 07, 2018, 06:03:06 PM
There are many threads that ask for advice to select good ICOs, but it is as important to discard the bad ones. For me the "red flags" that lead me to run away are teams that are not experienced, rates that are not adjusted to the price of ETH or BTC and undisclosed term for private sales.

What makes you red flag a project?

Bad communication from the team (untransparent).
No team disclosure.
Large hard caps.
Very high bounty rewards with agressive marketing.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: mrbnson on January 07, 2018, 06:04:03 PM
There are many threads that ask for advice to select good ICOs, but it is as important to discard the bad ones. For me the "red flags" that lead me to run away are teams that are not experienced, rates that are not adjusted to the price of ETH or BTC and undisclosed term for private sales.

What makes you red flag a project?

You spoke of some good ones, some of the most obvious for me are simple discrepancies, so often I see different prices on website compared to announcement thread or things like that. It tells me either one of two things are likely true, either they're not professional enough to double check everything and that doesn't bode well for the future, or they are just a scam.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: Hamphser on January 07, 2018, 06:05:02 PM
There are many threads that ask for advice to select good ICOs, but it is as important to discard the bad ones. For me the "red flags" that lead me to run away are teams that are not experienced, rates that are not adjusted to the price of ETH or BTC and undisclosed term for private sales.

What makes you red flag a project?
Same as yours,red flag for me is on when I do see the team isn't experienced enough or just starting up on handling crypto projects but doesn't mean I wont really give some consideration this is sometimes intuition would set-in and when I got convinced when I do read up their WP. If do find out that it is just an ordinary or common WP which most projects do have.I do easily skip and find another one. I wont really risk my money if I do find out if a certain project isn't really worth at all.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: enervey on January 07, 2018, 06:07:21 PM
It's hard to judge ICOs that appear to have a decent team behind them. You can't simply trust a listing of team members with "real" names because LinkedIn profiles are easy to create for fake people.

How do you decide for certain that a team is "good"?


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: radokan on January 07, 2018, 06:07:50 PM
Read this topics: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2109970.0 - red flags for ico
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1678127.0 - how to spot an ICO SCAM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1963768.0 - How to know if the ICO is scam
Use search button and google, you can find plenty similar topics.



Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: jbautistangina on January 07, 2018, 06:09:07 PM
If the developers doesnt want to show themselves,if they have no previous successful projects,or they arent credible or if the project is too good to be true that are my basic things to find before thinking to join,but if one of these doesnt meet i will never support the project,roadmap or the whitepaper must be good too if you asked me.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: alani123 on January 07, 2018, 06:13:20 PM
My red flags are badly writer white papers:
This shows that the team couldn't even put enough effort into highlighting the best of their ideas.
Whitepapers that are all words and no discussion on technical details:
This showcases that the team's work probably can't do much in terms of developing the project they envision themselves.

No code samples or minimum viable product to showcase:
This again is indicative of the team having little technical knowledge. It shows that the team is waiting for funds to get anything done.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: sic_null on January 07, 2018, 06:14:01 PM
Usually once I see them start promising large gains i'm out. It's clear at that point what their only intentions are.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: Lacettivod on January 07, 2018, 06:15:05 PM
There are many threads that ask for advice to select good ICOs, but it is as important to discard the bad ones. For me the "red flags" that lead me to run away are teams that are not experienced, rates that are not adjusted to the price of ETH or BTC and undisclosed term for private sales.

What makes you red flag a project?
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For me the red flag are the following signs:
1. funny name token,
2. Poorly designed subject to BTT,
3. well, the bad reviews and comments that cannot meet the creators.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: khendjer on January 07, 2018, 07:54:02 PM
That will be ICOs without a really cool idea and ICOs which just make another copy from ICOs which has already ended and had a great success.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: sensimilia on January 07, 2018, 08:08:54 PM
When a coin doesn't have a clear purpose, and newbie devs with many newbie accounts supporting the thread.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: sebastianpenguen on January 07, 2018, 08:11:07 PM
There are many threads that ask for advice to select good ICOs, but it is as important to discard the bad ones. For me the "red flags" that lead me to run away are teams that are not experienced, rates that are not adjusted to the price of ETH or BTC and undisclosed term for private sales.

What makes you red flag a project?

Hidden team identity, this is a factor to stay away. Bad whitepaper and business documents. Weak project concept. Applicability could be low and this would be an indicator also. Then you should look for a demo product.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: qazgroup on January 07, 2018, 08:17:49 PM
Lack of transparency, poor quality website, too simple whitepaper, suspicious or no details about team members and low use cases of the product or service are considered red flags for me.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: coinlawyer on January 07, 2018, 08:50:54 PM
First of all a website design and UI interface - it is very simple to check and the first I actually do;
Than i check the uniqueness or usability of the idea, roadmap - if this criteria don`t match - Red flag)


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: MISS_nSTASSY on January 07, 2018, 09:28:11 PM
Now for me the first and the huge red flag is when the team leading an ICO dont have escrow. It means they can do with gained money whatever they want. It is not the main thing in the project, but if I see escrow - I can say that project will hit its goals


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: ceferov on January 07, 2018, 09:32:13 PM
There are many threads that ask for advice to select good ICOs, but it is as important to discard the bad ones. For me the "red flags" that lead me to run away are teams that are not experienced, rates that are not adjusted to the price of ETH or BTC and undisclosed term for private sales.

What makes you red flag a project?

For me biggest red flag is team. If team is professional then it's worth to buy and HODL. If dev team is so good then surely they will work and give to community a good product. A little lie can ruin everything


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: S.Sandberg on January 07, 2018, 09:33:21 PM
I already lost one bitcoin during some stupid ico which was named iintcoin.
When I look back I figure out the dev team was unknown and there were no escrow service.
And no smart contract.

So I guess there were enough red flags... be careful with scams !


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: bosses on January 07, 2018, 09:34:41 PM
There are many threads that ask for advice to select good ICOs, but it is as important to discard the bad ones. For me the "red flags" that lead me to run away are teams that are not experienced, rates that are not adjusted to the price of ETH or BTC and undisclosed term for private sales.

What makes you red flag a project?
You have good selection criteria, another one that pushes me away from participating in projects, when there is a very large difference between the prices of Ico and Pre ico


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: dale1075 on January 07, 2018, 09:38:24 PM
There are many threads that ask for advice to select good ICOs, but it is as important to discard the bad ones. For me the "red flags" that lead me to run away are teams that are not experienced, rates that are not adjusted to the price of ETH or BTC and undisclosed term for private sales.

What makes you red flag a project?

Disorganized information and missing project details on their website are usually a redflag for me. Especially if you don't see their whitepaper and roadmap and of course their legitimate development team. I sense they are hiding something if these are not disclosed.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: palle11 on January 07, 2018, 09:39:30 PM
It's hard to judge ICOs that appear to have a decent team behind them. You can't simply trust a listing of team members with "real" names because LinkedIn profiles are easy to create for fake people.

How do you decide for certain that a team is "good"?

You can actually know if a team is good if there track records are good measuring up with there experience. Meanwhile, sometimes though, a good team might still have some challenges which would the reputation of the team.

For instance, many ico sites do crash these days immediately after the closure of ice as a result of the rush in traffic to access or buy. Thus, this might not necessarily be the fault of the 'good teams'.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: annbagira on January 07, 2018, 09:44:02 PM
Thank all people for yours answers! For example I find two new things here - I need put my attention on the escrow mechanism and about fake newbie accounts under ANNTHREAD! Thanks guys and girls for your help only keep each to other informed we can make good and safety community!


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: yareklamator on January 07, 2018, 09:58:22 PM
For me, the "red flag" when choosing ICO is
- an unknown team, strange people without confirmation in reality.
- long terms of sales, which increase in time, since not even a minimum is collected.
- a long waiting period (one year or more) of entering the market of the main product.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: shulc7 on January 09, 2018, 05:50:13 AM
There are many threads that ask for advice to select good ICOs, but it is as important to discard the bad ones. For me the "red flags" that lead me to run away are teams that are not experienced, rates that are not adjusted to the price of ETH or BTC and undisclosed term for private sales.

What makes you red flag a project?


I am trying to avoid any ICO at all. Only thing I do it is buying good reliable coins and selling it when the time is come. This is best most secure way to get money.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: markers on January 09, 2018, 07:34:31 AM
I prefer avoiding ICOs with poor quality and absence of relevant experience team. This is the main red flag for me. In addition to that, the things that raise my sense of anxiety are low quality website (or even absence of it at all) and marketing materials.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: mr.bitcoin2k17 on January 09, 2018, 07:45:42 AM
The main red flag for me is no MVP - investing in someone's ideas/thoughts/dreams is way too risky...
And, actually, mistakes. If the team don't pay attention to such simple things, it makes them look unprofessional.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: mulukey on January 09, 2018, 08:03:31 AM
For me, the "red flag" when choosing ICO is
- an unknown team, strange people without confirmation in reality.
- long terms of sales, which increase in time, since not even a minimum is collected.
- a long waiting period (one year or more) of entering the market of the main product.
Your outlook is very good and in my opinion. I think the red flag project is a project that can not participate in the long and medium term. It is difficult to accept such projects. Investing in it is too risky for you.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: Snorren on January 09, 2018, 08:11:38 AM
My red flags
1. Pre-sale was in crypto long ago - Early investors will cash out day one- price drops
2. Project is about micro lending, charity or a new coin.
3. Project team is 90%+ Russian. I have nothing against Russians but I don't invest in it.
4. Team seems more interested in ICO than building the project, tries to get as much money as possible, emails all the time and try to hype.
5. Team will take significant amount of tokens to themselves.
6. The blockchain is not vital to the project idea. - Only vital to get ICO money.


Best time to buy into new tokens I believe are 3 weeks to 3 months after ICO ended.
1. Price stabilized.
2. Some results should be visible, company still talking about the ICO on their web start page months after -avoid.
3. 100x easier to make a valuation of how realistic the timelines were and if the team seems functioning.

You may not get 100000% gains this way but perhaps 10000% with much smaller risk.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: Corsa1r on January 09, 2018, 08:38:46 AM
Dev acting too friendly and convincing people this is the next big thing. Thats unfortunately way too common


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: coinman45 on January 09, 2018, 08:46:25 AM
For me I red flag a project, when they make impossible claims and promise. Or they give ideas which are too good to be true. Also if I sense is not being accepted by the community.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: hdclover on January 09, 2018, 08:47:46 AM
1. High cap for a basic project.
2. Less communication from the team or its developers.
3. Paying for some people to endorse their ICO (For example: John McAfee's shills)
4. No experience in the field that they are working on.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: JoyofCrypto on January 09, 2018, 08:52:54 AM
The biggest red flag for me is when there is no information about the development team working on the project. For example there was an ICO called 'wcx' that had an anonymous development team and that CO was the shadiest thing I have ever seen starting from the promotion and ending with the execution.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: bucksman5233 on January 09, 2018, 08:53:19 AM
For me I red flag a project, when they make impossible claims and promise. Or they give ideas which are too good to be true. Also if I sense is not being accepted by the community.
Yeah it's a big true fact.
I have seen some ICOs which promotes themselves as next Bitcoin or ethereum or better than these without any working product at all. Some even claims that their ICO investors will get promised returns which is actually a major red flag for me because nobody can predict the price of a coin in the future.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: JLCoin on January 09, 2018, 09:37:31 AM
When the team is unknown, the whitepaper leaves out crucial information, or doesn't exist at all, and the major sites refuse to list them (I'm not talking about the super-expensive ones).


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: shaun98 on January 09, 2018, 09:53:37 AM
Red flags include bad communication from the team, inability to answer questions about the whitepaper, team refuses to reveal details such as the background of the company, and there is no specific roadmap for the project, and nothing is said about distribution of funds. I would stay away from ICO's with such red flags.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: Marvell1 on January 09, 2018, 03:25:58 PM
As for me the project's team and the general idea are very important. If developers hide their real names and do not want to communicate with investors, then this project is most likely created only in order to take away the money of investors.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: paxmao on January 09, 2018, 03:40:44 PM
It's hard to judge ICOs that appear to have a decent team behind them. You can't simply trust a listing of team members with "real" names because LinkedIn profiles are easy to create for fake people.

How do you decide for certain that a team is "good"?

Linkedin profiles are not that easy to create, you need to look at the number of contacts, that is not easy to fake. Also do a quick name search in google because experienced people will have news and info related to them that are difficult to position.


Title: Re: What are your Red Flags?
Post by: paxmao on January 09, 2018, 03:42:11 PM
1. High cap for a basic project.
2. Less communication from the team or its developers.
3. Paying for some people to endorse their ICO (For example: John McAfee's shills)
4. No experience in the field that they are working on.

I would say that also not having a clear cap or selling the tokens for whatever the market decides is an indication of a money grab scheme. Can even be legit in purpose, but the execution is already lacking.