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Title: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! - please close
Post by: Qantaqa on August 13, 2013, 08:13:53 AM
For historic purposes and not wanting to hide my tracks, the original and edits are still below.

I have two VPS servers here doing fine, but the reviews are horrid and so on. The signup takes a bit longer, which I didnt consider a problem. But in addition this provider has cancellation by phone only and charges a lot more after the first month (60%). Since I don't want to get anyone in some kind of shit:

Can this thread please be closed.

If you have anymore questions, feel free to pm me and hopefully I post a better reviewed provider soon.

My apologies in advance for the 4 plp that signed up if it turns out to be a mess, hope you make lots in the meantime. Fortatrust has the option to cancel within 7 days with money back, I suggest you use it if you don't want to try your luck like me.

Quote
Our cancellation department is available, Monday through Friday, 930AM to 500PM New York (USA) time via:
 
1.  US Toll Free: +1 855 201 7888
2.  Standard: +1 703 466 0078
3.  Skype (Skype to fortatrust)

Original and edited post.

--- edit: away atm, but i verified the price after the first month as pointed out later in the thread. Be AWARE! After the 1st month price goes up by 60% and to quarterly. This makes it very interesting if you run it for just a month. After this its still priced well, but the period might be too much to commit too. I will make a proper update when home. My VPS works fine so they certainly deliver, feel free to ask questions.
---

Yesterday I cancelled my DigitalOcean droplets since they aren't really profitable anymore and many linodes look somehow throttled on cpu, even when I get max cpu, I was on the lookout for a cheaper and better option.

I found Fortatrust and this seems to be by far the best option, with just 1.8$ per core its lots cheaper then Digital Ocean and will remain profitable for quite a bit of time to come. Even the first Linode at linode which has full priority is also more expensive per core and slower per core. The one disadvantage of Fortatrust is that they aren't instant, so patience is required. But I received my vps in a few hours. My support ticket, since I had accidentally chosen 12.04 instead op 13.04, was also solved within hours. They didn't send me a mail on ticket progress, but I could follow it on the customer portal and this was correct and up to date.

You can scale your VPS server from 1 to 8 cores (starting at 3,99 for 1 core, to 14.45 for 8 cores, which divides to just 1.8 dollars per core, almost 3 times as cheap as DO), the cores are not some virtually defined cores, but real XEON cpu cores. Well feel free to read up more on their site.

Since I figured you would like to know this and I might make some on sharing an referral link:

Create your own VPS at Fortatrust.com: http://accounts.fortatrust.com/aff.php?aff=5456

It wont cost you anything to use my referral link and I would very much appreciate it, but feel free to visit www.fortatrust.com directly and donate to me instead ;)

Underneath a dump of info after running more then a day, averaging at almost 1.7 chains a day.

Code:
Stats: {
    "blocks" : 114726,
    "chainspermin" : 8,
    "chainsperday" : 1.07089040,
    "currentblocksize" : 1158,
    "currentblocktx" : 1,
    "difficulty" : 9.74066138,
    "errors" : "",
    "generate" : true,
    "genproclimit" : -1,
    "roundsievepercentage" : 70,
    "primespersec" : 1783,
    "pooledtx" : 1,
    "sievepercentage" : 10,
    "sievesize" : 1000000,
    "testnet" : false
}
Confirmed Balance:  *removed*
Immature Balance: *removed*
Immature TX: *removed*
Connections: 13
Recent:
2013-08-13 08:00:26 primemeter   6432364 prime/h 107735422 test/h  780 5-chains/h 1.069220 chain/d
2013-08-13 08:01:26 primemeter   6480816 prime/h 109257957 test/h  420 5-chains/h 1.083673 chain/d
2013-08-13 08:02:26 primemeter   6350157 prime/h 106376208 test/h  540 5-chains/h 1.057481 chain/d
2013-08-13 08:03:26 primemeter   6033898 prime/h 101422409 test/h  540 5-chains/h 1.003679 chain/d
2013-08-13 08:04:26 primemeter   6419992 prime/h 107923925 test/h  540 5-chains/h 1.070890 chain/d

Averages:
   Prime/h:    5777931
    Test/h:   96892629
 5-Chain/h:        549
Chains/day:    1.67586

-- Update

If you want to use Gigawatts guides to auto install and run the miner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=261179), then prior to the script I needed to do the following commands (the compilers weren't installed by default):

Code:
$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-get upgrade
$ sudo apt-get install build-essential
$ gcc -v
$ make -v

When these are done you can just paste his script (with your own username in it) and when it ran the vps will be mining for you.


Title: Re: Primecoin VPS with higher returns!
Post by: TheSpiral on August 13, 2013, 08:24:49 AM
That is actually a decent price. Linode is $20 a month, I'll have to try this out once my month lapses and see how it goes.
(Plus, it looks like they're just up the street from me, so no latency is a plus)


Title: Re: Primecoin VPS with higher returns!
Post by: Qantaqa on August 13, 2013, 08:44:19 AM
That is actually a decent price. Linode is $20 a month, I'll have to try this out once my month lapses and see how it goes.
(Plus, it looks like they're just up the street from me, so no latency is a plus)

Just FYI, Linode always credits whatever remains of the month. However I still have my linodes too, I use servers as much as possible for both mining and other purposes so moving them isn't something I do a lot (not very profitable in term of hours of work).


Title: Re: Primecoin VPS with higher returns! 1.8$ per CPU core
Post by: Qantaqa on August 13, 2013, 02:50:10 PM
Updated first post with install instructions.


Title: Re: Primecoin VPS with higher returns! 1.8$ per CPU core
Post by: altsay on August 13, 2013, 02:50:25 PM
--------This is probably scam.--------

They charged my credit card but not activated the VPS for hours.


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! Just 1.8$ per CPU
Post by: spoid on August 13, 2013, 02:54:28 PM
how much RAM would you recommend for 8 cores?


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! Just 1.8$ per CPU
Post by: gigawatt on August 13, 2013, 03:49:38 PM
how much RAM would you recommend for 8 cores?

Given that you only need ~512 MB to compile Primecoin and less than that to run it, 1GB should be fine.
If you have to, you can even add a swapfile.


Also: high five to Qantaqa for finding FortaTrust.  Turns out "excessive CPU usage" is against Linode's TOS.  So... yeeeeeaaaaah.  ;)
(On a side note, did you stop/restart primecoind after letting the blockchain update?  When it's catching up, it'll make wild results of 25+ chain/day that can throw the estimates off)


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! Just 1.8$ per CPU
Post by: 42davidsmith42 on August 13, 2013, 03:57:46 PM
I was looking at fortastrust before, I didn't like some of the reviews (http://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.fortatrust.com).  However it sounds like you've had good luck with them. 


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! Just 1.8$ per CPU
Post by: gigawatt on August 13, 2013, 04:02:18 PM
Might wanna read the AUP...
http://www.fortatrust.com/aup/

Ok, now what?

Primecoin doesn't count as any of the following: illegal activity, harm to minors, threats, harassment, fraudulent activity, forgery or impersonation, spam, unauthorized access, copyright infringement, collection of personal data, network disruption, or distribution of viruses.


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! Just 1.8$ per CPU
Post by: Entz on August 13, 2013, 04:18:08 PM
I was looking at fortastrust before, I didn't like some of the reviews (http://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.fortatrust.com).  However it sounds like you've had good luck with them.  
Interesting. Doesn't seem worth it imo.

Might want to note in the OP, the small print on the selector page:

"* All Cloud Server VPS are provided under our Limited Time Promotion, which provides for a 60% discount for the first month. There after the monthly rate will increase respectively, and invoiced under a quarterly billing model."
So expect a hefty charge after the first month ( about 75$ )


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! Just 1.8$ per CPU
Post by: idev on August 13, 2013, 04:23:38 PM
Be careful of fortatrust they are a terrible hosting provider and they will publish your personal details on their blacklist (http://www.fortatrust.com/blacklist) if you miss a single payment.



Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! Just 1.8$ per CPU
Post by: gigawatt on August 13, 2013, 04:35:23 PM
Be careful of fortatrust they are a terrible hosting provider and they will publish your personal details on their blacklist (http://www.fortatrust.com/blacklist) if you miss a single payment.



That link is dead.  Was that intentional?


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! Just 1.8$ per CPU
Post by: idev on August 13, 2013, 04:58:37 PM
Be careful of fortatrust they are a terrible hosting provider and they will publish your personal details on their blacklist (http://www.fortatrust.com/blacklist) if you miss a single payment.



That link is dead.  Was that intentional?

Cached:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:wrR9Ad3nZ3IJ:www.fortatrust.com/blacklist/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Link is working for me. Just go to the website and click on the blacklist link in the footer.


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! Just 1.8$ per CPU
Post by: gigawatt on August 13, 2013, 06:05:03 PM
Be careful of fortatrust they are a terrible hosting provider and they will publish your personal details on their blacklist (http://www.fortatrust.com/blacklist) if you miss a single payment.



That link is dead.  Was that intentional?

Cached:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:wrR9Ad3nZ3IJ:www.fortatrust.com/blacklist/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Link is working for me. Just go to the website and click on the blacklist link in the footer.

Ah, it was missing a front slash.
Looks like they're not very good with HTML tables.


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! Just 1.8$ per CPU
Post by: gigawatt on August 13, 2013, 06:42:53 PM
How long did it take to get your VPS up and running?
Mine's been "pending" for almost an hour now.


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! Just 1.8$ per CPU
Post by: Tamis on August 13, 2013, 06:53:55 PM
1.7 chains a day isn't "chainsperday : 1.07089040".

Just saying...


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! Just 1.8$ per CPU
Post by: Qantaqa on August 13, 2013, 06:58:49 PM
How long did it take to get your VPS up and running?
Mine's been "pending" for almost an hour now.

about half a day, about the same with the support ticket. I suppose plp rather then scripts are doing the work there.


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! Just 1.8$ per CPU
Post by: NLCoin on August 13, 2013, 07:10:58 PM
"chainsperday" : 0.27842972

hp9, default settings... 8 cores...

nowhere near 1.7...

what am i doing wrong?


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! Just 1.8$ per CPU
Post by: Tamis on August 13, 2013, 07:19:53 PM
It was never 1,7cpd but 1.07 !

And this is clearly a shitty provider that will explode your bill if you read carefully your contract...


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! Just 1.8$ per CPU
Post by: gigawatt on August 13, 2013, 07:33:29 PM
"chainsperday" : 0.27842972

hp9, default settings... 8 cores...

nowhere near 1.7...

what am i doing wrong?

Are you sure your blockchain is up to date?  It should have ~110k blocks so far.
Once it's caught up, be sure to stop and restart primecoin so you have accurate info.


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! - please close
Post by: gbl08ma on August 13, 2013, 07:39:08 PM
http://freevps.us/thread-10920-post-126961.html#pid126961

Please read the bit on FortaTrust.


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! Just 1.8$ per CPU
Post by: NLCoin on August 13, 2013, 07:46:24 PM
"chainsperday" : 0.27842972

hp9, default settings... 8 cores...

nowhere near 1.7...

what am i doing wrong?

Are you sure your blockchain is up to date?  It should have ~110k blocks so far.
Once it's caught up, be sure to stop and restart primecoin so you have accurate info.

blockchain is up to date
now blocks: 115502

stopped and restarted primecoind, even rebooted server.. still sh*t performance...
trying out 1 month, then never fortatrust again!


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! - please close
Post by: crendore on August 13, 2013, 07:48:30 PM
Not much point in starting new vps right now if the GPU miner is already out to the beta testers (http://www.cryptobro.com)


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! - please close
Post by: juhakall on August 13, 2013, 07:53:29 PM
Not much point in starting new vps right now if the GPU miner is already out to the beta testers (http://www.cryptobro.com)

You do realize that's someone's genius attempt at trolling?


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! - please close
Post by: gigawatt on August 13, 2013, 08:47:23 PM
Not much point in starting new vps right now if the GPU miner is already out to the beta testers (http://www.cryptobro.com)

You do realize that's someone's genius attempt at trolling?

Actually, no, it's in there:

Code:
$ strings -n 20 blk00000.dat | tail -10
,Olviretki Schleusingenissa kansannayttamo.fi
*Being the Royal Discordian Kilted Hacksmen
4We build websites for primecoin: www.waspdigital.com
"All hail king sunny"
!100% naturally grown prime chains
"All hail king sunny"
"All hail king sunny"
"All hail king sunny"
"All hail king sunny"
=This block was mined with mtrlt's GPU miner version 0.01 Beta

But given that it's possible to put anything in there (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Block_chain_message_service), there's no reason to believe that it's real.


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! - please close
Post by: altsay on August 14, 2013, 06:39:09 AM
Quite shitty performance.

Huge waste of time and money.


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! - please close
Post by: spoid on August 31, 2013, 06:18:16 PM
Anyone went for this shit? I only see about 6-12% of the performance the CPU should offer. It's slower than my netbook. Don't go for it. Don't go for it - it's a trap and you can only cancel via phone. ridiculous.


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! - please close
Post by: NLCoin on August 31, 2013, 07:28:08 PM
Anyone went for this shit? I only see about 6-12% of the performance the CPU should offer. It's slower than my netbook. Don't go for it. Don't go for it - it's a trap and you can only cancel via phone. ridiculous.

I did... and I regret it from day 1 off... indeed less than 10% of the promised CPU power... just received billing for the rest of the year... well... they can wait for payment until I have full CPU power!! Hahaha


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! - please close
Post by: mechs on August 31, 2013, 08:12:36 PM
The GPU miner will be very bad for the VPS business which had a huge boom from primecoin miners.  Well, all good things must come to an end...


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! - please close
Post by: spoid on September 07, 2013, 04:10:24 PM
Anyone went for this shit? I only see about 6-12% of the performance the CPU should offer. It's slower than my netbook. Don't go for it. Don't go for it - it's a trap and you can only cancel via phone. ridiculous.

I did... and I regret it from day 1 off... indeed less than 10% of the promised CPU power... just received billing for the rest of the year... well... they can wait for payment until I have full CPU power!! Hahaha

Well, what do we do? I wrote a support ticket stating that it is not nearly offering the power of an 8 core 2.67 xeon and that i benchmarked it.

they simply replied that it might not have enough RAM and recommended I got an upgrade. rofl. answering now "no i am definitely not doing anything wrong and the RAM is not full, you are ripping me off" (in nice-speak). let's see how it goes.


Title: Re: [ANN] Primecoin VPS mining with higher returns! - please close
Post by: NLCoin on September 25, 2013, 08:20:54 PM
People... be aware of this 'provider' Forta'trust'... and DON'T EVER TRUST THEM!!!
They keep trying to get your creditcard withdrawed forever, even if they know they won't get their money! (They won't get any money from me, because my (prepaid luckilly) cc is not being funded anymore... lol!)
This is the worst ever provider I've ever seen!

DON'T EVER TRUST FORTATRUST, WORST PIECE OF SHIT IN THE UNIVERSE!!!