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Title: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: micrypto on January 15, 2018, 08:02:00 PM
Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe and impossible to hack even by the creator?!

Many people trusts in hardware wallets but what will happen if the creator is an evil?! .

I think he/they can easily stolen bitcoins!

 


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: _ATOmix_ on January 15, 2018, 08:17:12 PM
No hardware is safe, almost nobody knew about Intel chip vulnerability until a few months ago, a vulnerability that chips that go back to 1995 have.


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: Vansire on January 15, 2018, 08:23:20 PM
I was wondering about that too. You'll have to trust the manufacturer to have top notch security, and you have to trust the seller to not have tampered with the device. Which happened with wallets sold through eBay. The seller secretly modified the device, the buyer thought he got a great deal, but that changed once all his coins were gone.


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: CryptoBeefy on January 15, 2018, 08:23:42 PM
You can never say anything is 100% safe ... The same way any piece of tech is not completely foolproof. With things like this though, never buy cheap and unknown, read reviews and ALWAYS buy direct from the manufacturer, never 2nd hand as who knows whether that has been tampered with or not.


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: I.Grozni on January 15, 2018, 08:55:12 PM
Nothing is completely safe. Sooner or later you have to link your wallet to your computer to buy another currency or transfer money into the Fiat currency. At that moment your hardware wallet and your coins are exposed like all other wallets. I believe that it is only a matter of time when viruses for hardware wallets will appear.


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: DanielRR1997 on January 15, 2018, 08:58:24 PM
Hardware wallets are typically as safe as isolated minimalist computers can be - the code is widely auditable and on the Ledger side we're using smartcards to add additional protections against physical tampering and possible software exploits (the keys live in a specific area of the operating system that's only accessible by following a given code execution path, guaranteed both by software and hardware)

When using a paper wallet you trust the environment you're using it on both when generating the keys and when spending - it's possible to be safe if you audit the key generation code carefully and maintain a perfect digital hygiene when spending (always sign offline on a non updated computer to avoid malware, then broadcast), it's also easier to use them on ETH than it is on BTC and BTC alts but still nowhere as convenient as a hardware wallet, especially when the device can be used for multiple isolated tasks beyond just ETH (ERC-20 tokens, other cryptocurrencies, SSH, GPG ...)


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: iigor on January 15, 2018, 09:04:35 PM
Nothing is 100% safe. Not even if it is in a bank vault. If you are sloppy, problems are coming your way. So it is safe as much as you are careful.

Be more careful, be safer.


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: Drnice on January 15, 2018, 09:05:17 PM
There is nothing made by man that is completely safe. If you get your hardware wallet directly from the manufacturer, it is better than a second used wallet and also better than a web-wallet.


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: GreatOrchid on January 15, 2018, 09:06:30 PM
Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe and impossible to hack even by the creator?!

yes, why wouldn't they be? Hardware wallets are the most safest option in order to protect all your cryptos, if you do not trust this, then it is simple, just print a paper wallet.

But hardware wallets are very noob-friendly, and anyone can use them easily,and they are very cheap too, $70 for a huge protection is NOTHING.


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: Hoho29 on January 15, 2018, 09:08:20 PM
Nothing is completely safe. Sooner or later you have to link your wallet to your computer to buy another currency or transfer money into the Fiat currency. At that moment your hardware wallet and your coins are exposed like all other wallets. I believe that it is only a matter of time when viruses for hardware wallets will appear.
i don't agree with you on this ,hardware wallet like TREZOR is safer than you think with multi encryption offline keys . it is not safe only if someone buy used hardware wallet where the previous owner can retrieve new updated balance .  


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: RandomEvent on January 15, 2018, 09:11:43 PM
Its all about levels of trust. Nothing in life is 100% secure when humans are involved. However, I think right now hardware wallets are your safest bet.


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: pacifiko on January 15, 2018, 09:19:00 PM
Of course no wallet give you 100% security. But hardware wallet one of the most safety. For example, ledger nano s, trezor. I recommend ledger.


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: thesmallgod on January 15, 2018, 09:21:15 PM
Just like many people have said here on forum nothing is 100 percent safe but hardware wallet is safer than any other type of wallet


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: charlie137 on January 15, 2018, 09:39:48 PM
if i know your public address, i can get access to your funds by finding private key to this address no matter where data stored. this is true for every coin that was built with current cryptography platforms


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: bitcoinmaniac52 on January 15, 2018, 09:44:51 PM
Nothing is full safe. This is a simple fact. When you think your BTC is 100% safe, you aren't being cautious enough.


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: cryptodrei on January 15, 2018, 10:40:23 PM
Yes sure they are secured like bank's vault,just secured you private keys and dont phishing sites get your keys.


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: marks1976 on January 15, 2018, 10:55:08 PM
Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe and impossible to hack even by the creator?!

Many people trusts in hardware wallets but what will happen if the creator is an evil?! .

I think he/they can easily stolen bitcoins!

 
I'm not sure about that but i was learning from someone that bought second-hand nano ledger and then the first user of that nano ledger is exploiting the wallet and then the buyer lost a lot of money.
But trezor is having a better security rather than nano ledger and you must buy it.


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: bakulgarem on January 15, 2018, 11:01:42 PM
I think it's pretty safe because there is enough hardware security unlike the free wallets we have.


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: IAM-JOSEPH on January 15, 2018, 11:29:47 PM
I'm new but I was wondering if..

 do you prefer to keep your coins in your Hardware Wallet? or maybe use online wallet?

  I'm just worried if ever I lost the Hardware Wallet. then I'm not sure whats gonna happen.  ???


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: hieu81 on January 15, 2018, 11:45:47 PM
Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe and impossible to hack even by the creator?!

Many people trusts in hardware wallets but what will happen if the creator is an evil?! .

I think he/they can easily stolen bitcoins!

 
No wallet fully safe! May be hack via internet or by pass! I need to hold your private key! May be you can used off line wallet!


Title: Re: Are Hardware Wallets fully Safe?!
Post by: _ATOmix_ on January 15, 2018, 11:51:53 PM
I think it's pretty safe because there is enough hardware security unlike the free wallets we have.

Wallet security does not depend on price, it depends on how secure your private key is.
If you generate your key from an offline paper wallet on and air-gaped computer and store the private key in your bank's vault it's as secure as your bank is.