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Title: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: grau on August 17, 2013, 09:47:39 AM
Germans take it easy. No need for extra regulation since it is just an other currency.


http://www.faz.net/aktuell/finanzen/devisen-rohstoffe/digitale-waehrung-deutschland-erkennt-bitcoins-als-privates-geld-an-12535059.html


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: WinVery.com on August 17, 2013, 11:19:09 AM
Germany is an occupied country unfortunately this means nothing.


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: Carlton Banks on August 17, 2013, 12:25:16 PM
Germany is an occupied country unfortunately this means nothing.

But occupied by who? Seems to me that they're the only Eurozone (as in the currency) country with a trade surplus, so they've got extraordinary free will compared to the rest of the Western world (USA being the blatant exception, of course). They've asked for gold reserve re-patriation from the Federal Reserve, they've complained at the politics level about the NSA affair, and protested very strongly at the citizen level (all without any heavy handed policing breaking it up). They talk more and more of becoming militarily independent again, so despite the US military bases, they seem to be pretty much doing as they like on the world stage.


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: kneim on August 17, 2013, 12:40:20 PM
We have a federal election on 22. of September. So in my opinion it means nothing, because they do NOT want to spread fear at this moment.


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: Sioux on August 17, 2013, 03:11:12 PM
Any german people here pay tax for their BTC ?


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: acoindr on August 17, 2013, 03:58:48 PM
This seems like very positive news for Bitcoin, like the government is basically saying hey it's a private matter, not our business.

Also, big thanks to Casacius for those physical bitcoins. They may not be ideal for transacting bitcoins but they have done a lot for people associating the image of bitcoins with something real.


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: faiza1990 on August 17, 2013, 04:12:57 PM
Germany have good beer and soon we have this for bitcoins ??? ??? ;D ;D


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: pedrog on August 17, 2013, 05:47:29 PM
Germany is an occupied country unfortunately this means nothing.

But occupied by who? Seems to me that they're the only Eurozone (as in the currency) country with a trade surplus, so they've got extraordinary free will compared to the rest of the Western world (USA being the blatant exception, of course). They've asked for gold reserve re-patriation from the Federal Reserve, they've complained at the politics level about the NSA affair, and protested very strongly at the citizen level (all without any heavy handed policing breaking it up). They talk more and more of becoming militarily independent again, so despite the US military bases, they seem to be pretty much doing as they like on the world stage.

Germany is occupied by German people!  :D


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: Lauda on August 17, 2013, 05:53:49 PM
Germany have good beer and soon we have this for bitcoins ??? ??? ;D ;D
Yes, buy all the beer with bitcoin!


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: Carlton Banks on August 17, 2013, 06:46:58 PM
Germany is an occupied country unfortunately this means nothing.

But occupied by who? Seems to me that they're the only Eurozone (as in the currency) country with a trade surplus, so they've got extraordinary free will compared to the rest of the Western world (USA being the blatant exception, of course). They've asked for gold reserve re-patriation from the Federal Reserve, they've complained at the politics level about the NSA affair, and protested very strongly at the citizen level (all without any heavy handed policing breaking it up). They talk more and more of becoming militarily independent again, so despite the US military bases, they seem to be pretty much doing as they like on the world stage.

Germany is occupied by German people!  :D

This is a convincing conclusion!  ;D


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: franky1 on August 17, 2013, 07:41:28 PM
Fidor bank looks to be investing into bitcoins too..

here come the big boys.. prepare for some ramps and dumps soon.

think about it, anyone in europe can go through a german bank/business without having to currency exchange into dollars to get their bitcoins. this means cheap coins. and also with europes fast wire transfer services. it means instant coins..

:D all good news


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: Akka on August 17, 2013, 07:49:31 PM
Fidor bank looks to be investing into bitcoins too..

With fidor bank you soon will be able to buy and sell bitcoins directly from your bank account with them on bitcoin.de. You will be able to have a credit card an with this account, too.

I'm exited.


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: acoindr on August 17, 2013, 08:05:41 PM
Fidor bank looks to be investing into bitcoins too..

With fidor bank you soon will be able to buy and sell bitcoins directly from your bank account with them on bitcoin.de. You will be able to have a credit card an with this account, too.

I'm exited.

Sounds good. Bitcoin is very US-centric right now. This can help even out the distribution which is a good thing.


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: tinus42 on August 17, 2013, 08:20:12 PM
Germany is an occupied country unfortunately this means nothing.

Germany has been independent since 1990. Before that West Germany was occupied by the US, the UK and France and East Germany was occupied by the Soviet Union.

Unless you mean occupied by the EU or something.


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: TippingPoint on August 17, 2013, 08:38:19 PM

Ich bin ein Bitcoiner

http://i42.tinypic.com/2w5ptgz.jpg


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: No_2 on August 17, 2013, 08:56:40 PM
Fidor bank looks to be investing into bitcoins too..

here come the big boys.. prepare for some ramps and dumps soon.

think about it, anyone in europe can go through a german bank/business without having to currency exchange into dollars to get their bitcoins. this means cheap coins. and also with europes fast wire transfer services. it means instant coins..

:D all good news

Frank, can you point us at a source of info for this?


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: Akka on August 17, 2013, 09:01:30 PM
Fidor bank looks to be investing into bitcoins too..

here come the big boys.. prepare for some ramps and dumps soon.

think about it, anyone in europe can go through a german bank/business without having to currency exchange into dollars to get their bitcoins. this means cheap coins. and also with europes fast wire transfer services. it means instant coins..

:D all good news

Frank, can you point us at a source of info for this?

https://blog.bitcoin.de/en/bitcoin-de-und-fidor-bank-ag-vereinbaren-weitgehende-partnerschaft


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: TippingPoint on August 17, 2013, 09:06:59 PM
das ist gut


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: Ichthyo on August 17, 2013, 10:15:14 PM
saugut


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: pedrog on August 17, 2013, 10:46:09 PM
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Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
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Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: Lauda on August 18, 2013, 01:10:22 AM
Ich möge dieses komentar!


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: bitcoinspot.nl on August 19, 2013, 08:09:33 AM
Fidor bank looks to be investing into bitcoins too..

here come the big boys.. prepare for some ramps and dumps soon.

think about it, anyone in europe can go through a german bank/business without having to currency exchange into dollars to get their bitcoins. this means cheap coins. and also with europes fast wire transfer services. it means instant coins..

:D all good news

just like in holland, you can buy bitcoins in holland with "ideal". easy


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: joesmoe2012 on August 19, 2013, 12:04:09 PM
Fidor bank looks to be investing into bitcoins too..

here come the big boys.. prepare for some ramps and dumps soon.

think about it, anyone in europe can go through a german bank/business without having to currency exchange into dollars to get their bitcoins. this means cheap coins. and also with europes fast wire transfer services. it means instant coins..

:D all good news

just like in holland, you can buy bitcoins in holland with "ideal". easy

Use to be able to do this through bitcoin.de


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: tinus42 on August 19, 2013, 12:48:38 PM
Does this mean you can pay taxes with Bitcoins in Germany?


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: phelix on August 19, 2013, 01:45:26 PM
Does this mean you can pay taxes with Bitcoins in Germany?
LOL. Not yet.


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: Notanon on August 19, 2013, 02:31:14 PM
Germany is an occupied country unfortunately this means nothing.

Germany has been independent since 1990. Before that West Germany was occupied by the US, the UK and France and East Germany was occupied by the Soviet Union.

Unless you mean occupied by the EU or something.

More like they have control over the EU, from the looks of things. Like a peaceful Fourth Reich of sorts.


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: Stuartuk on August 19, 2013, 10:26:15 PM
Germany is an occupied country unfortunately this means nothing.

Germany has been independent since 1990. Before that West Germany was occupied by the US, the UK and France and East Germany was occupied by the Soviet Union.

Unless you mean occupied by the EU or something.

No no no. West Germany was formed in 1949 and was a fully independent sovereign State.


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: tinus42 on August 20, 2013, 11:17:54 AM
Germany is an occupied country unfortunately this means nothing.

Germany has been independent since 1990. Before that West Germany was occupied by the US, the UK and France and East Germany was occupied by the Soviet Union.

Unless you mean occupied by the EU or something.

No no no. West Germany was formed in 1949 and was a fully independent sovereign State.

"Despite the grants of general sovereignty to both German states in 1955, full and unrestricted sovereignty under international law was not enjoyed by any German government until after the reunification of Germany in October 1990. Though West Germany was generally independent, the Allies maintained some responsibilities for West Germany. At the same time, East Germany was a satellite state of the Soviet Union."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied-occupied_Germany

If you're occupied by other countries you may be legally independent but de facto subservient to the occupying nations.


Title: Re: German Ministry of Finance: Bitcoin is a currency, is suitable for Bills.
Post by: Lauda on August 20, 2013, 11:51:36 AM
Does this mean you can pay taxes with Bitcoins in Germany?
LOL. Not yet.
Soon™, only in Germany  :D