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Title: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: colinistheman on August 17, 2013, 09:46:24 PM
http://www.butterflylabs.com/monarch/

We've been waiting for a year for our preorders that we still don't have and now they're releasing a 600GH/s version within a few months............!


by the way:   http://youtu.be/4jYNMKdv36w

HAHAHA!!
  A must see!


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. WTF
Post by: smoothie on August 17, 2013, 10:02:55 PM
Their preorder BS has run its course. My view: I won't buy until they have it in stock and even then I likely won't buy just based on their shady business practices.


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. WTF
Post by: Kris on August 17, 2013, 10:05:18 PM
None the less, you got to move forward all the time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. WTF
Post by: Carlton Banks on August 18, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
In the BFL queue order, nobody can hear you scream...


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. WTF
Post by: Tomatocage on August 18, 2013, 12:23:54 AM
If they deliver by end of year, that 600 GH/s unit will only mine 1.1 BTC/day  :o


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. WTF
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on August 18, 2013, 12:29:47 AM
I think they call it "bait and switch" .... double down on a bigger fabrication to distract from the first one


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. WTF
Post by: Littleshop on August 18, 2013, 12:39:08 AM
If they deliver by end of year, that 600 GH/s unit will only mine 1.1 BTC/day  :o
Sounds profitable to me.


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. WTF
Post by: beardays on August 18, 2013, 09:50:20 AM
In the BFL queue order, nobody can hear you scream...

I lol'd :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. WTF
Post by: DiamondCardz on August 18, 2013, 10:06:14 AM
"We are pioneers of the industry" of shadiness?


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. WTF
Post by: bronan on August 18, 2013, 01:02:28 PM
If they deliver by end of year, that 600 GH/s unit will only mine 1.1 BTC/day  :o
Sounds profitable to me.

Right except you never receive the promised and paid for product
Kinda like BFL is doing with many customers they should be flagged : "SUPER SCAMMERS"


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: CoinsForTech on August 19, 2013, 03:51:45 AM
Ah nothing BFL does surprises me anymore. Boy am I glad I didn't pull the trigger on their mining equipment last year


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: illpoet on August 19, 2013, 03:53:42 AM
the picture of all the boxes on the truck made me think "yay! maybe my jalapeno is in there!" then i check order status, nope still "processing"


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. WTF
Post by: Lethn on August 19, 2013, 05:05:05 AM
Their preorder BS has run its course. My view: I won't buy until they have it in stock and even then I likely won't buy just based on their shady business practices.

Holy shit, you've finally found some common sense? Wish more people here would.


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. WTF
Post by: vokain on August 19, 2013, 05:09:54 AM
Their preorder BS has run its course. My view: I won't buy until they have it in stock and even then I likely won't buy just based on their shady business practices.

Holy shit, you've finally found some common sense? Wish more people here would.

Smoothie has a lot of sense, idk what you're talking about.


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: millsdmb on August 19, 2013, 03:35:41 PM
http://www.butterflylabs.com/monarch/

We've been waiting for a year for our preorders that we still don't have and now they're releasing a 600GH/s version within a few months............!


by the way:   http://youtu.be/4jYNMKdv36w

HAHAHA!!
  A must see!

Thanks for posting my vid =)


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: vvic on August 19, 2013, 04:35:41 PM
Oh come on, people. You are cruel and unfair to poor BFL. It's not like they are not trying ;D ;D ;D
But seriously, 600mhash/s how are they going to cool all that in such small blade? Will it be again "two more weeks and you have it in your hands, we swear! We just need to fix cooling/power issue it will take 3 more days and you'll have it in 2 weeks!"


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 19, 2013, 04:37:46 PM
Quote
We've put enormous resources into building our supply chain & production capacity so that we can serve our customers.

How does it feel to be served?


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: colinistheman on August 19, 2013, 05:27:47 PM
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We've put enormous resources into building our supply chain & production capacity so that we can serve our customers.

How does it feel to be served?
lol :(

probably feels about as good as being served to go to court


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: Cockeyed on August 20, 2013, 09:19:01 PM
Oh come on, people. You are cruel and unfair to poor BFL. It's not like they are not trying ;D ;D ;D
But seriously, 600mhash/s how are they going to cool all that in such small blade? Will it be again "two more weeks and you have it in your hands, we swear! We just need to fix cooling/power issue it will take 3 more days and you'll have it in 2 weeks!"

If it only consumes 350W due to the new smaller technology, then itīs like a graphicsCardīs power throughput. Therewith theoretically possible. But remember what theyīve said about Jalapenoīs power consumption: originally 4,5W, later corrected to 30W. If same with this new blade, you will get something like 2kW... then there is a big problem. I wonīt buy it, Iīm still waiting for my Single. I donīt want to buy new hardware for mining endlessly.

I bet, short time before they deliver, they will announce the new "Empire Blade" with 5TH, Preorders now, customers of "Monarch Blade" can be switched by a fee of 15%. Alleged "Delivery late autumn 2014"...

One thing is clear: They are the real winners. Iīm not against technical progression, but Iīm also not itīs junky.


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: vpereira on August 20, 2013, 10:01:43 PM
a lot of stupid ppl will preorder it.. so as long as people are willing to be ripped off we will always have some scammers around


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. WTF
Post by: Takeshi_Kovacs on August 20, 2013, 11:07:40 PM
If they deliver by end of year, that 600 GH/s unit will only mine 1.1 BTC/day  :o

If Bitcoin difficulty continues to rise at the current rate then one of these units will mine a little more than 2BTC in the whole of January next year. The 'mine it forever' total being around 4 BTC. Then you have to pay for electricity.

That is based on the 35% rise seen last cycle multiplied every ten days taking difficulty to a little over 3 billion by the start of 2014 and then just plugging that value into a bitcoin profitability calculator.

OK, perhaps difficulty will not increase at that rate but then 'perhaps' BFL will not deliver on time and the difficulty may be even higher by the time that they start to ship these units to customers.


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: Cockeyed on August 21, 2013, 05:35:44 AM
What about founding an own company for mining products? I know itīs not easy by far, but if you cucceed, you will not need any bankīs credit and be booked out for the next years... :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 21, 2013, 07:51:37 AM
a lot of stupid ppl will preorder it.. so as long as people are willing to be ripped off we will always have some scammers around

The best estimate to date, for the past four days, BFL added just under six million dollars to their coffer sans ANY formal announcement. But heck, they earned it, for shopping a GPU blade is hard. They almost didn't meet the Saturday morning deadline. Luckily, Nasser, the Persian in France, stayed up late and answered all he wanted to answer, avoiding the important questions, in perfect English.

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Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. WTF
Post by: young3dvard on August 21, 2013, 07:56:56 AM
If Bitcoin difficulty continues to rise at the current rate then one of these units will mine a little more than 2BTC in the whole of January next year. The 'mine it forever' total being around 4 BTC. Then you have to pay for electricity.

So you have to wait for 1000 USD per BTC to make ROI, not bad.
But January seems soo optimistic given their track record


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: freedomno1 on August 21, 2013, 08:10:03 AM
I sense great cocks power to ride in on emnating from here


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: colinistheman on August 21, 2013, 05:34:41 PM
The best estimate to date, for the past four days, BFL added just under six million dollars to their coffer sans ANY formal announcement. But heck, they earned it, for shopping a GPU blade is hard. They almost didn't meet the Saturday morning deadline. Luckily, Nasser, the Persian in France, stayed up late and answered all he wanted to answer, avoiding the important questions, in perfect English.
Who is Nasser? What's this all about? And where did you hear this?


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: tacoman71 on August 21, 2013, 06:05:39 PM
At least they cleared out all 2012 orders for Jalapenos. Hopefully my April order comes soon ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 21, 2013, 06:29:59 PM
The best estimate to date, for the past four days, BFL added just under six million dollars to their coffer sans ANY formal announcement. But heck, they earned it, for shopping a GPU blade is hard. They almost didn't meet the Saturday morning deadline. Luckily, Nasser, the Persian in France, stayed up late and answered all he wanted to answer, avoiding the important questions, in perfect English.
Who is Nasser? What's this all about? And where did you hear this?

Please don't take my reply as dissing you, but... Seriously, if you don't know who Nasser is or have the knowhow to Google [Nasser Bitcoin], you are in a load of shit if you are a BFL customer or are planning on becoming one without doing one iota of due diligence. Do you even know who Sonny Vleisides is?


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: YipYip on August 21, 2013, 09:17:49 PM
To be honest....I have used enough energy on these pplz.....

I am going to focus my own projects and leave the BFL ASIC madness....

Its just a waste of time..the only way these CONMEN will be taken down is prison...as the conman playbook always says

"There are new suckers born everyday"

L8rs  8)


Title: Re: Bitcoin "Monarch" PCI Express 600 GH/s cards.. What the heck
Post by: colinistheman on August 22, 2013, 11:40:20 AM
To be honest....I have used enough energy on these pplz.....

I am going to focus my own projects and leave the BFL ASIC madness....

Its just a waste of time..the only way these CONMEN will be taken down is prison...as the conman playbook always says

"There are new suckers born everyday"

L8rs  8)
Smart decision. It definitely does consume a LOT of energy and time which could be directed into other positive directions, including bitcoin.