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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: yuriygeorge on August 19, 2013, 09:03:58 PM



Title: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: yuriygeorge on August 19, 2013, 09:03:58 PM
Beware of this guy: Sucram on local bitcoins:
https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/sucraM/

He just scammed a lot of people, asking for a screenshot of the pre-funding page "for verification/security" and then when he gets the screenshot, he releases the funds. The screenshot has the authentication code to release the funds. WATCH OUT!

Someone on there lost over $8,000...

Also this guy's number is:  1-913-200-1331. Need to come up with a way to counter-scam this jackass.


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: stex2009 on August 19, 2013, 09:34:20 PM
was he using TOR, did you check?
Localbitcoins may be able to provide you his IP.

So, get his:
IP
phone no (trackable who created this googleVOIP).

Then, Police report with those details?


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: KingOfSports on August 19, 2013, 10:33:00 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=277744.0


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: DannyHamilton on August 19, 2013, 11:04:44 PM
He attempted to scam me as well.  He tried to get 55 bitcoins from me using the same technique.  I realized what he was attempting and avoided getting caught in the scam, but I saw that there was a good chance he was going to get away with it with some others.  I posted two posts regarding his scam here in bitcointalk to warn people:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86012.msg2966477#msg2966477

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=277744.0

This scam appears to have crossed multiple state boundaries, and therefore is possibly an interstate fraud case for the FBI.  If anyone contacts the FBI, let me know.  I'll call and share the details of the attempted fraud against me.

Like Trendon Shavers, we need to let these scammers know that they can't get away with fraud just because it's "bitcoin".



Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: bitsalame on August 22, 2013, 08:30:15 PM
Beware of this guy: Sucram on local bitcoins:
https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/sucraM/

He just scammed a lot of people, asking for a screenshot of the pre-funding page "for verification/security" and then when he gets the screenshot, he releases the funds. The screenshot has the authentication code to release the funds. WATCH OUT!

Someone on there lost over $8,000...

Also this guy's number is:  1-913-200-1331. Need to come up with a way to counter-scam this jackass.
I did an investigation on him: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279648.0
So if you know of anyone who got victimized by this kid, send them to that topic so they can do a proper report to the FBI and to the local authorities.


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: JWU42 on August 22, 2013, 09:56:05 PM
@Bitsalame,

DOX master  ;D


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: Tomatocage on August 23, 2013, 09:22:36 AM
Local BTC needs to fix their shit NOW.


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: DannyHamilton on August 23, 2013, 01:58:51 PM
Local BTC needs to fix their shit NOW.

There isn't any amount of programming that localbitcoins can do that can prevent victims from giving away their bitcoins when fooled by a scammer.  localbitcoins can't reprogram the brains of the humans that use their site.  What exactly do you want them to fix?


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: flagel8 on August 23, 2013, 02:16:32 PM
Local BTC needs to fix their shit NOW.

There isn't any amount of programming that localbitcoins can do that can prevent victims from giving away their bitcoins when fooled by a scammer.  localbitcoins can't reprogram the brains of the humans that use their site.  What exactly do you want them to fix?

Exactly. if you can read and follow instructions, you should be fine. No need to send anyone the screenshot, as you can tell when the transaction is funded right on the site when you log in. When the funds are released, THEN the person selling the coins gets the code, letting the buyer know that the coins are now in the buyer's wallet.

For that matter, even if he doesn't fund the transaction before the meet, you can still go, since he can fund the transaction while the two of you drink coffee. I think it takes 3 confirmations before the transaction can proceed. Meanwhile, you can talk, it's quite stress free. When he gives you the release code, you KNOW the coins are in your wallet. (This is from the point of view of the buyer, sorry, I've never sold any... yet).

If you really want to be safe, you can give localbitcoins your mobile number, and SMS texts will be sent to you upon funding/release actions having taken place. Very well thought out, but you MUST follow the rules and use "COMMON" sense. The Heinlein definition of Common Sense?


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: escrow.ms on August 23, 2013, 02:18:30 PM
Local BTC needs to fix their shit NOW.

There isn't any amount of programming that localbitcoins can do that can prevent victims from giving away their bitcoins when fooled by a scammer.  localbitcoins can't reprogram the brains of the humans that use their site.  What exactly do you want them to fix?

I think they should give release code via sms upon sellers request instead of showing code on website.


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: bitsalame on August 23, 2013, 02:50:51 PM
Doesnt matter what measures are taken, social engineering will always work with UNTRAINED personnel/customers.


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: BurtW on August 23, 2013, 04:25:11 PM
I think they have done a great job.  You now have to explicitly click a link to have the code be shown.  I toyed with him and sent him the screen shot he asked for (without clicking the "show" link of course).  So he now has to ask you to click the show link and then sent the screen shot.  That should make most people stop and think (we hope).


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: bitsalame on August 23, 2013, 06:16:27 PM
I think they have done a great job.  You now have to explicitly click a link to have the code be shown.  I toyed with him and sent him the screen shot he asked for (without clicking the "show" link of course).  So he now has to ask you to click the show link and then sent the screen shot.  That should make most people stop and think (we hope).
At first I thought that his game was not to get the release code (because he was saying that it is okay to send him the screenshot since the code is blocked out), so I thought that he needed the screenshot to social engineer the support team to convince them that he was the legitimate user of our accounts.


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: Tomatocage on August 23, 2013, 06:22:43 PM
There isn't any amount of programming that localbitcoins can do that can prevent victims from giving away their bitcoins when fooled by a scammer.  localbitcoins can't reprogram the brains of the humans that use their site.  What exactly do you want them to fix?

Email the release code instead of displaying it on the screen?


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: DannyHamilton on August 23, 2013, 06:38:22 PM
There isn't any amount of programming that localbitcoins can do that can prevent victims from giving away their bitcoins when fooled by a scammer.  localbitcoins can't reprogram the brains of the humans that use their site.  What exactly do you want them to fix?

Email the release code instead of displaying it on the screen?

And the scammer will ask the victim to forward a copy of the email.  What does that solve?


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: Tomatocage on August 23, 2013, 07:27:30 PM
The simply answer is to just remove the release code "feature" - something that can be done quite easily in code. It is, after all, a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: DannyHamilton on August 23, 2013, 07:44:20 PM
The simply answer is to just remove the release code "feature" - something that can be done quite easily in code. It is, after all, a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

The release code is a solution to transferring bitcoins between users in a face-to-face meeting location that doesn't have WiFi.

It allows fast (nearly instant) transactions that don't require any confirmations as long as you trust localbitcoins.  It prevents the possibilities of the receiver being a victim of a double-spend attack.

With the release code feature, the only thing the buyer needs to have with them at the meeting is the cash they are using to pay with, and the only thing the seller needs to have with them is an old cheap cell phone capable of sending txt messages.

It isn't a necessary feature for some people, but for those that use it, it is a very valuable and desired feature.


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: Lionel on September 22, 2013, 05:04:57 PM
did those scammers have 100% positive feedbacks? how many feedbacks?


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: saif313 on September 22, 2013, 11:14:55 PM
did those scammers have 100% positive feedbacks? how many feedbacks?

no limit they can take as much they can no body can stop them from to do this


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: rammy2k2 on September 23, 2013, 10:38:24 AM
wow ... thanks for posting this


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: Eternity on September 23, 2013, 10:51:24 AM
When you are dealing with an irreversible currency such things are bound to occur.

Use at your own risk


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: btcfaucet on December 14, 2013, 08:36:36 AM
Thanks for this truly amusing post. So much win...

(unfortunately someone claims the same guy just scammed 0.5 BTC from someone on Bitcoin-OTC doing the fake ident in pm thing, so he's probably still at it - old habits and all).


Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: s1lverbox on December 14, 2013, 10:05:32 AM
Beware of this guy: Sucram on local bitcoins:
https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/sucraM/

He just scammed a lot of people, asking for a screenshot of the pre-funding page "for verification/security" and then when he gets the screenshot, he releases the funds. The screenshot has the authentication code to release the funds. WATCH OUT!

Someone on there lost over $8,000...

Also this guy's number is:  1-913-200-1331. Need to come up with a way to counter-scam this jackass.

Thats why u should only deals with trusted sellers.



Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: BurtW on December 14, 2013, 04:25:47 PM
Thanks for this truly amusing post. So much win...

(unfortunately someone claims the same guy just scammed 0.5 BTC from someone on Bitcoin-OTC doing the fake ident in pm thing, so he's probably still at it - old habits and all).

If you think this is a good thread about our buddy Marcus you should read this entire thread with pictures of this moron.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279648.0

One of the best threads on this entire forum.  JUSTICE :)

It is interesting if he is still scamming with this hanging over his head:

He pled Guilty to one charge of Identity Theft and the prosecutor dismissed all the other charges.

This is unbelievable.  Why do they keep giving XXY chromosome morons like this more and more chances?

I wonder what the penalty is for Identity Theft in Kansas.

He will be sentenced on January 9th 2014.  If he gets probation or time served I will have lost all faith in the Justice system.



Title: Re: BEWARE: LocalBitcoins Screenshot Scam
Post by: BurtW on December 14, 2013, 04:31:22 PM
(unfortunately someone claims the same guy just scammed 0.5 BTC from someone on Bitcoin-OTC doing the fake ident in pm thing, so he's probably still at it - old habits and all).
LINK please.