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Bitcoin => Electrum => Topic started by: giggitygoo on January 18, 2018, 07:52:57 PM



Title: Coinbase to Electrum HUGE fee
Post by: giggitygoo on January 18, 2018, 07:52:57 PM
I have been buying Bitcoin since 2012, and have just now recently run into a reoccurring problem. This time i kept record of it.
Last night, we decided to put a mere $80 into Coinbase. Coinbase charged us $3 to buy them , cool no biggie.
So my friend sends  .00685244 BTC, which was $77.
When i see it receiving into my Electrum, it is already down to .00570095 BTC, which is $64.
Then, i send it from Electrum to my personal account.
After THAT fee, In the end, i get .00497707.

So from transferring the coin from Coinbase to Electrum, and then Electrum to my personal account, i lost over 33% of my coin?

TXID for Coinbase to Electrum transfer : 2dd15115558931f74a0977e98f40b9bce3698f2219bc4493d55afdda7c98ba79


Title: Re: Coinbase to Electrum HUGE fee
Post by: TryNinja on January 18, 2018, 08:31:40 PM
So my friend sends  .00685244 BTC, which was $77.
When i see it receiving into my Electrum, it is already down to .00570095 BTC, which is $64.
This is Coinbase's fee paid to the miners. Coinbase will always send transactions with the bigger fee required to get a confirmation in the next block, and which most of the time is exaggerated.

After checking your TX ID and the address linked to it, I see that the fee charged was probably 0.00115149 BTC or $13.59 as of now (511.773 sat/B). Next time tell your friend to transfer his Coinbase funds to GDAX (or just buy directly from there) and withdrawal. If you use GDAX, there is no fees to buy Bitcoin (so no $3 fee) and the miner fees are paid by them. You would have saved an extra $16 ($3 + $13).

Just search "save fees with GDAX" on Youtube.

Then, i send it from Electrum to my personal account.
After THAT fee, In the end, i get .00497707.
Again, miner fees. Electrum will suggest you a fee, but you can actually lower that value to one you are comfortable to pay.

So from transferring the coin from Coinbase to Electrum, and then Electrum to my personal account, i lost over 33% of my coin?
Sadly yes. Next time do what I said above and you will save a lot of money in fees. Also, I don't see why you did Coinbase -> Electrum -> Personal account instead of Coinbase (or GDAX to save even more fees) -> Personal. If you did the second option from Coinbase, you would have paid only 1 fee. If you did from GDAX, no fees at all. You would have received the whole $80.


Title: Re: Coinbase to Electrum HUGE fee
Post by: jonald_fyookball on January 20, 2018, 11:34:54 PM
bitcoin fees are high, what do you expect.  try Bitcoin Cash.


Title: Re: Coinbase to Electrum HUGE fee
Post by: TryNinja on January 21, 2018, 12:11:11 AM
bitcoin fees are high, what do you expect.  try Bitcoin Cash.
He should try Doge instead. Average fee of $0.01 compared to the $0.23 that Bcash has.

#doge4thewin


Title: Re: Coinbase to Electrum HUGE fee
Post by: nc50lc on January 22, 2018, 05:57:07 AM
What do you expect?
You used 378 Satoshi / byte in your Coinbase account as the transaction fee.
And it was a one input-output transaction, they are really inefficient, they could have just batch senders every 5 minutes.
Another problem with Coinbase is, they deduct the transaction fee from the amount you want to send than the usual Amount+Transaction fee method.

He should try Doge instead. Average fee of $0.01 compared to the $0.23 that Bcash has.
Electrum wallet doesn't support doge or bch.