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I was really suprised I got banned today @ coinchat. Just because I am a member of another chatsite, I got banned. I didn't do anything wrong, never spammed or trolled. I was polite to everybody - but still I got banned.

Read yourself:

http://www.bitbin.it/bdqWWoJD  Sorry, for my bad grammar, but I was a little suprised and upset and I am not a native speaker.

I think nobody should tell somebody which site he is allowed to visit or how to use the internet. This only happens in a dictatorship...

Thomas

I don't know anything about the story but if you don't like the website, just leave it.
If you got banned, chill out, and deal with it. Either wait or leave it.

cc is useless site. They also have a lot of scammers.

Sadly, you are not the only one, cashnews :(

When will I probably banned :D

You might not be the only one, but who cares?!

Well being that websites are usually owned by 1 individual they are a dictatorship, only limits the number of people willing to deal with their rules. Dont let one little click ruin the good experiences to be had in crypto-coin land ^^. Keep your head up there are better people to associate with.

True that!

Thomas

A dictatorship is a form of government, and does not apply to private companies.  Imagine if someone is over at your house party.  If you want them to leave, you shouldn't need to give them a valid reason -- it's your property and your rules.

I doubt that you can compare a house with a private companie. Just imagine some firm would only sale its products to one race...

And by the way, in my house you are welcome as long as you behave... As I said, I did behave. I did not violate any rule.

Thomas

In all fairness, business is private property, but if you fire someone for being Muslim or, let's say Swedish (because thats the example used) then that is highly illegal, and obviously not right.

I see A LOT of drama come from CC, and I try to stay out of most of it, because its really just childish drama on both ends. There are plenty of great people on that site, as well as the rest of the bitcoin community, but there are also people you will dislike too.

At the end of the day however, it just a website. I can understand your frustration. If you spent a lot of time on facebook, and facebook decided to ban you for life- you would probably be upset for a while, however there are much better things to do out there in the world.

Count your losses and move on solider.

More and more people are finally waking up to the fact that CC is complete utter horseshit  ::)

breaking news, this forum is a dictatorship too.  :D

Discrimination is not a worldwide law.  
On the internet, nobody is going to care if you discriminate, especially if your site is hosted by someone who doesn't give a fuck either.

PirateKitteh here ... the most ruthless and evil privateer from coinpr0n.

cashnews, I have very much enjoyed chatting with you on coinpr0n AND easybitco. I read your chatlog and am not surprised in the least. However, there are plenty of great sites in the bitcoin community besides coinchat as you already know. Don't let the frustrations of your experience there ruin your ideas of what community is REALLY about.

The forums here are full of plenty of examples/drama of what goes on anytime TradeFortress takes it upon himself to get involved. I personally am glad not to be a part of all of that nonsense any longer. It does make for good popcorn drama true, but spending my time actually helping new members grow in the world of bitcoin is much more important to me than playing the "sit up and beg" games coinchat plays to get a few mBTC. The monetary rewards are not what makes a great community.

Thanks for the informative post, and I would also like to thank you for your contributions to the German-language channel.  ;D

Being indiscriminate is sometimes even worse.

moral values are besides the point anyway.. we're talking about what people are allowed to do, and not using the word "dictatorship" correctly.

We get the point, unfortunately the point of this thread isn't to debate the grammatically correct use of the word "dictatorship". Cashnews already pointed out that he wasn't a native speaker, and he used to word to describe what he felt were unscrupulous and unfair business practices from that site.

We should move on from debating the grammatically correct usage of "dictatorship" and any more debate about it should be moved to a different thread, because it's not the main point of the thread. -_-

I like how you picked out the second point and tried to imply that it's my main point. 

If dictatorship is the wrong word, I appologize. I think everybody got what I meant to say...

The thing is: The idea of a chat or a forum is to have people discussing on various topics. If you ban everybody who has a different opinion, you will not have any discussion...

I met a lot of nice people @ coinchat so I dislike that I cannot talk to them anymore. But nobody can blackmail me.


You are absoloutly right... Thanks for that post.

Thomas

It's the right word. No need to apologize.

yes I agree its right word because they are doing nothing good all scamers there

i don't know about calling them scammers but they're definitely assholes.

The general topic here has seemed to attract many people that were banned from coinchat for whatever reason. I was asked to post this: http://pastebin.com/ah3Bfdg9 for my friend Dog1, although the conversation contained within shows how the staff of coinchat reacts to rumors, etc. towards anyone they feel threatened by.  The amount of misinformation contained within is laughable, but instead of actually investigating the matter and talking to the people involved, it was decided that some "conspiracy" was going on to destroy coinchat or "infiltrate" them, if I remember the terminology correctly. I could produce many transcripts that mirror these, but they would honestly serve no purpose. All of us are a lot better off where we are now, and I wouldn't want to be remotely involved with coinchat or ANY of TradeFortress' ventures considering what will most likely happen in the coming months anyway.

Wasn't smart of them to get Dog1 on the trail.

The scenario reminds me of the classic, "you kicked my dog!"

But yes, you have upset the Dog.

I don't think a "dictatorship" would've gone through detail on site policy and given you the option to stay or go. It is a privately run site, there were no elections. They have every right to make whatever rules they want and enforce them.

I don't get the issue.  You walk into someone's house, they serve you cookies and you have a nice chat.  If you do things they don't like they can ask you to leave.  So every home owner is a dictator in their home.  That is appropriate.  You have the right to refuse service to anyone for almost any reason.  The world is too large to be petty.

He didn't say he didn't like it, he said he got banned. 

It must be quiet there in coinchat that is ;)

We had this house topic already... I think you cannot compare a house with a buisness. But before I write something down I just quote HollowIP.


Just imagine a grocery store would not sale you any food because you also buy in another one. Would you think this is right?

Thomas

What you're experiencing is people who've gotten a taste of some sort of "power" over someone else.  Bitcoin is inviting "amatuer hour" and "emotional businesses" by the minute it seems.  I would have to guess (and have sadly been proven right with this guess many times) that like a majority of new coiners they are naive and ignorant (age has nothing to do with it in my opinion).  Just look at this site and how they corral "newbies" into one spot because of the various reasons they have (which I can agree with however think should be implemented differently).

If you are advertising in one store for their competition, you might be asked to leave.  If you don't cease, you might be more than asked.
It may be a bad business policy, but it is also the right of the store owner to do so.  It is also the right of those asked to leave to point out that business policy in public places like this one. 
It is the sort of problem that usually solves itself.

What are the competiors to coinchat anyways

none to my knowledge. a couple wannabes at best

Thanks for that was wondering since the competitors might be paying more hence the reason this thread was created :)