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Bitcoin => Legal => Topic started by: LightRider on August 21, 2013, 07:36:52 AM



Title: Groklaw shutting down
Post by: LightRider on August 21, 2013, 07:36:52 AM
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130818120421175

Citing the Lavabit shutdown and the need for private email collaboration rendered impossible by US spying, she is no longer updating the site.


Title: Re: Groklaw shutting down
Post by: NewLiberty on August 21, 2013, 12:40:12 PM
Another commentary on it.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130820/02152224249/more-nsa-spying-fallout-groklaw-shutting-down.shtml

(This one with comments turned on)

It is understandable, and deeply sad.


Title: Re: Groklaw shutting down
Post by: worldinacoin on August 21, 2013, 12:49:12 PM
Good decision, I really feel that the Internet is the work of the Devil


Title: Re: Groklaw shutting down
Post by: FreedomCoin on August 21, 2013, 01:40:45 PM
Its also a series of tubes where you cannot just dump stuff on it.


Title: Re: Groklaw shutting down
Post by: NewLiberty on August 21, 2013, 01:53:46 PM
Its also a series of tubes where you cannot just dump stuff on it.
Didn't they upgrade the tubes to parallel a while back? :)

It would be interesting to see some more research on the psychological effects of surveillance. 
Conformity vs non-conformance
Effects on intimacy.
Effects on creativity
Intrinsic motivation for ethical behavior vs extrinsic
Anxiety
Shame
Exhibitionism


Title: Re: Groklaw shutting down
Post by: pccs on August 31, 2013, 03:59:35 AM

I never heard of Groklaw until today. Just spent some time reading about the SCO Group, glad they filed for bankruptcy.
You would think that a company trying to get royalties from virtually every computer on the planet would be a big enough story for the MSM to cover.
I'm also surprised that I've never heard about this story on the alternative news sites either.

Parasites in suits.



Title: Re: Groklaw shutting down
Post by: BitCoiner2012 on August 31, 2013, 04:01:34 AM
Hope people wake up before they're in a cage of their house with paramilitary troops outside.


Title: Re: Groklaw shutting down
Post by: Kazu on September 01, 2013, 03:58:35 PM
Why not just encrypt the emails?


Title: Re: Groklaw shutting down
Post by: TheButterZone on September 01, 2013, 08:39:59 PM
Seems to fear PGP being cracked.

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They tell us that if you send or receive an email from outside the US, it will be read. If it's encrypted, they keep it for five years, presumably in the hopes of tech advancing to be able to decrypt it against your will and without your knowledge. Groklaw has readers all over the world.


Title: Re: Groklaw shutting down
Post by: Mike Christ on September 01, 2013, 10:16:52 PM
Seems to fear PGP being cracked.

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They tell us that if you send or receive an email from outside the US, it will be read. If it's encrypted, they keep it for five years, presumably in the hopes of tech advancing to be able to decrypt it against your will and without your knowledge. Groklaw has readers all over the world.

Chilling.


Title: Re: Groklaw shutting down
Post by: Bitware on September 03, 2013, 04:29:36 AM
Quote from: Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”