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I just realized that bitcoin seems to have failed so far to get any traction in the online porn world.

For example myfreecams.com uses 'tokens' to tip the ladies. I read this costs the ladies something like 30% commission. Private sessions on skype are common, ladies trying to circumvent that commission too, yet bitcoin seems to be barely used.

This worries me. If anything bitcoin should succeed there, right? Is this proof that bitcoin is failing or am I being too impatient? Is there proof that bitcoin is being adopted in the online porn world with some success, even minor?  

Why would you even pay for porn? I mean seriously... This... Is... The... Internet.........

People do pay for it still, as long as people pay for it, there will be sellers. Some people want more interaction and are willing to pay for it.

So there is definitely a market for this, especially for the fact that transactions can't be reversed, which is a problem with the porn industry.

"Hey Honey, why is there a charge on our credit card from COMEBANGMENOW.COM? Did you buy porn?"

"Why... no honey I didn't..."

Chargeback city.

Because the people who buy pr0n have dumb habits that hide Bitcoin from them. They are also likely strongly conservative people who would shun a non-government backed currency.

 
EDIT: Found this:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16680-porn-in-the-usa-conservatives-are-biggest-consumers.html#.UhehHmRd808

"Residents of 27 states that passed laws banning gay marriages boasted 11% more porn subscribers than states that don't explicitly restrict gay marriage"

LOL feedback! So true, hypocrisy nation! BTC will hit the pr0n world more... just wait.

Price fluctuates too much.

There are a few projects out there already.

Actually I think this is next big industry to adopt bitcoin, first drugs, now casinos everywhere, next Internet porn! :D

So, how many of those that bought porn identified themselves as conservative? Oh that's right, we don't know. Your conjecturing skills are excellent.

Is any successful? Or even operational? Do you have link?

Here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127637.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78517.0

Check also:

http://www.reddit.com/r/decrypto

http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin

Bitcoin's main user-base consists mainly geeks. I have never known a geek paying for porn.

I've paid for porn, but it was live...

Pretty much

I guess bitcoin needs something to keep it up!!!  ;D

Maybe a little blue colored coin?

1) No way to run a subscription service [huge amount of porn revenues are from trial accounts that auto renew at full price]
2) No way to verify age from a Bitcoin address
3) Primary users of Bitcoin know where to find lots of it for free legally
4) Primary users of Bitcoin know where to find the rest of it illegally

Also this: http://strip4bit.com/

...and how are other payment methods any better?

The biggest lie told on the Internet:

Warning: This website contains adult material, you need to be 18 years old or more to access. Do you have 18 years or more?

Yes    No

I thought bitcoin was used exclusively for all things deemed illegal, immoral, and unethical.

The first person to build a bitcoin chaturbate.com clone will be filthy rich. If you build it they will cum ;)
Who wants to help me build it ???

http://www.reddit.com/r/girlsgonebitcoin?

Because credit cards allow RECURRING subscription charges!!!

not only porn, homegrow equippment should be a an interesting field for bitcoin use.

Subscriptions are a big one.  But I think in a surprising sense the industry is moving away from sites reliant on subscriptions (e.g. people forgetting about it) and you are starting to see stuff that is actually worth ponying up for (at least in comparison to older model sites).

The biggest factor though, from my limited experience would be the impulse purchase factor.  If buying a soda in line to check out at the big box store is impulse, then porn is hyper-impulse.  There is generally little to no planning going into "I'm going to go spend some time on a porn site right now", so you need to have as frictionless of a transaction as possible.

Bitcoin just doesn't reach the ease of use of credit cards yet.  I think it can, but right now if $random_40_year_old wanted some bitcoins NOW so he could check out some adult site he found, how does he get them easily and quickly?  The answer is you don't.

Once you *have* bitcoins, there are tons of services that will imo be game changing in the porn markets if btc ever becomes big enough.  Bitcoin allows truly viable microtransactions ($1-5) so paying an anonymous dollar to upgrade that video playing on pornhub to HD starts becoming an entirely new model people can exploit.  Right now other sites have kind of paid lip service to these things, but they all require pre-existing accounts, registration, fraud control, etc.

Basically it needs to be as easy as going to a site, entering your credit card or paypal info, and having bitcoins 10 minutes later you can spend.  Until then, or until massive bitcoin adoption, the mass adult market might be a tough one.  Certainly solvable problems, but regulation will be the gating factor imo.

Also if adoption or ease of use starts to become viable, you are going to see all the marginal shitbox (and some downright criminal fraud) sites love bitcoin because they won't have to worry about chargebacks.  If those types are allowed to go amuck and ruin the idea of paying for porn with bitcoin ("I paid .5btc and all I got was this shitty members area from 1998"), you might see a harder road to adoption until a big industry player starts using it with a successful implementation.

So yes, I think it could be revolutionary for adult site operators.  Zero chargeback risk, very low cost for transactions, but probably won't replace credit cards for the traditional subscription based services.  Webcam studios probably are already looking into it pretty hard, as it solves tons of issues there - it's simply a matter of how many of their customer based (whales especially) even know about it.  Then you can go the PPV model or anything else you can think up :)

OkCupid is a subscription website that accept bitcoin payments.

Coinbase allows recurring payments.

Moar:

Watch: http://www.pornwall.com/

Earn: https://thepornwall.com/

so very very true +1

I'm a geek and I've paid for porn many of times. Most free porn on tube sites are very low quality. I like high quality hd videos. Also I'll never download any videos or pictures from a free forum I know allot of them contain viruses, porn that you pay for is virus free!

Paying for something adds value to what you paid for making it more enjoyable. People don't appreciate what is free

Some time ago I would now have made (a bit) fun of you, for the silly, noobish fear of infected pictures or videos.
I won't. Funny, how times have changed..

I didn't pay for porn, but paid for software, music, movies. And donated my part to random good causes. You could argue all of these with the same arguments.

Ente

I would imagine a huge amount of revenue is from subscription services that auto-renew. There is no way to auto renew using bitcoin; every transaction is a "push" transaction, not a "pull" one.

So that hurdle would somehow have to be dealt with.

nobody can stop this and its growing day by day too much and its hurts and bad effects too much same happen to Liberty Reserve and its closed  :(

i´d say this would be a killer application for businesses considering bitcoin payments: re-occuring payments. we need a start-up covering this. but, technically - how?

very hard to do without giving up the sole control over your wallet/coins.

Because people would rather download it from somewhere, than pay for it.

Bitcoin may yet, erm.., penetrate this market  ;D Though I think more the problem in that industry is finding what people will actually pay for than the method of collection, not to say taking digital currency wouldn't be a lot easier and cheaper regardless.


Generally, yes, but some (that don't know what BitTorrent is anyway) will shell out some cash for high quality productions, or at least high quality video. Thanks to the Internet destroying DVD sales porn studios have to come up with something that will sell as a premium service or product.

Coinbase supports recurring payments:

https://coinbase.com/docs/merchant_tools/recurring_payments

I don't think there is anyone that doesn't know what BitTorrent is, if he uses a PC and has internet anyway.

I have a subscription to brazzers because I don't like the stuff loaded with viruses. I e-mailed them a long time ago about how they should accept bitcoin. Never heard back from them, but it wouldn't hurt for a bunch of people to also recommend it.

Bitcoin seems like the perfect match for porn and gambling so kinda inevitable. It's just a matter of when. You have to remember that most people learned about Bitcoin in april, that is barely 6 months ago. These things take time.

I'd be surprised if 2 years from now, most porn and gambling websites still don't accept Bitcoin.

The good thing is we can still buy bitcoins at cheap prices. For early adopters, the ideal scenario is one in which Bitcoin appreciates steadily so you can easily buy Bitcoin every month rather than huge bubble/bust every now and then. So let's not be too eager to see mass adoptions. That's time to make more fiat to buy more bitcoins.

btc will easily touch 1000 by entering oldschool porn and gambling industries.

Just need to quote this for the pun-larity.

Haha, awesome quote!

There was someone in the forum searching for great bitcoin quotes, here's one!  :D

Brandy and Candy haven't figured out how to secure their digital assets yet ...

Here is another: Videos4btc.info (http://Videos4btc.info).

It's an interesting question, but for me the truly shocking part is this:

Even if YOU WANTED PAY FOR PORN and you searched around for a service that would sign you up for a paid subscription with your bitcoins, when you find such service you will discover that they are "temporarily disabled" or "on vacation" or something:

http://biterotic.com

http://pornforcoin.com

I don`t get why people are complaining about paying for porn...of course people pay for it,THEY are not doing that for free you know  ;D

Yep, still waiting for the big boys to turn to Bitcoin.
Yesterday someone announced his bitcoin-webcam-site, which looks great on first sight. Too great actually. Turns out there are many different sites which all use the same camfeeds or something. So that one was just another middleman.

We're coming, getting there, getting closer, eh? ;-)

Ente

/edit:
that's the one:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1mi3mb/my_boss_said_no_to_btc_i_quit_my_job_and_did_my/
http://www.strip4bit.com/