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Title: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: AICoin_Official on January 22, 2018, 12:33:59 PM
After moving up and down, it seems BTC remains in the range between 10K and 12K, is it really possoble for price to dip below 10K and reach to 8K in the next few weeks?

Original analysis about BTC from Kuang Ren:

Overall, price surged by a small range after breaking below MA 1Week after the expansion in volumes at high levels. Though price moved back to MA 1Week later, price kept going downwards. On a weekly basis, therefore, the overall bearish trend remains intact, making it unfavorable to buy at current level.

The narrow-range move today shows the temporary balance between bulls and bears after the fierce game. Having a rest before any inflection point of rally or trend reversal seems helpful to control risks and free yourself from anxiety.

Original by Kuang Ren, translated and posted by AICoin Jami.

You can also track the real-time price inforamtion here: https://www.aicoin.net.cn/chart/D331D4E2


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: 1Referee on January 22, 2018, 01:12:51 PM
Nothing really prevents the price to dip below the $10,000 level again with how thin the markets are. With that in mind, people shouldn't put too much weight on another sub $10,000 dip, as long as the market jumps back up again. The only interesting part is when we will fall below the bottom we reached some days ago. It would be too easy to say that we will then head down further, but it may very well be a possibility. On the other hand, we can't really blame the market to be so soft and unwilling to climb up further with nothing interesting happening in the coming weeks/months. If the price happens to go down, then it's because of that, and not like other people think governments cracking down on crypto.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: Lucius on January 22, 2018, 01:58:03 PM
After moving up and down, it seems BTC remains in the range between 10K and 12K, is it really possoble for price to dip below 10K and reach to 8K in the next few weeks?

Original analysis about BTC from Kuang Ren:

Overall, price surged by a small range after breaking below MA 1Week after the expansion in volumes at high levels. Though price moved back to MA 1Week later, price kept going downwards. On a weekly basis, therefore, the overall bearish trend remains intact, making it unfavorable to buy at current level.

The narrow-range move today shows the temporary balance between bulls and bears after the fierce game. Having a rest before any inflection point of rally or trend reversal seems helpful to control risks and free yourself from anxiety.

Original by Kuang Ren, translated and posted by AICoin Jami.

You can also track the real-time price inforamtion here: https://www.aicoin.net.cn/chart/D331D4E2


Where were you few days ago when price drop to 9000$?Nothing is impossible in case of BTC,and 10k$ level is just one psychic barrier which can easily be broken anytime.Today we have another drop in price and it is now at 10500$,just look how is this sharp and sudden drop.

For people who want to invest this is very good time,looks like BTC could end up again bellow 10k$ for some short time.I wonder what's causing this drop,so far no some new bad news...

http://i63.tinypic.com/nb7z8n.jpg


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: ClutchThese on January 22, 2018, 02:08:59 PM
My recommendation is to NOT invest until this week is over!!!

I believe that the miners (major minors who hold a significant amount of BTC) are the driving factors in the current market. They control the transaction fees, they control the hashrate, and with the introduction of future contracts - they control the market!

What I mean is that they can manipulate the market to push out new/small miners because it's not profitable to be a miner with lower prices. How are they able to do this? They're selling off BTC while also holding BTC Futures. essentially covering their sales and at the same time pushing out miners. They're then able to rebuy at a lower price and wait for the holders and others to start driving the price up. Rinse and repeat


This is me speculating, but it's what I'm seeing happen. If next week we see a 20+% rally, you'll know I may be on the right track.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: budz0425 on January 22, 2018, 02:13:18 PM
Five days ago the cryptocurrency not only bitcoin began to crash with almost all the top 100 coins down between 15-30%. It was also reported that the total market capitalization of all cryptocurrencies was hovering around $450 billion and down by 30% from $650 billion in just 48 hours. We don't know things ahead, it could be tomorrow or later that it would happen again but the thing is it would still rise up after the dip down.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: djpitagora on January 22, 2018, 02:15:06 PM
My recommendation is to NOT invest until this week is over!!!

I believe that the miners (major minors who hold a significant amount of BTC) are the driving factors in the current market. They control the transaction fees, they control the hashrate, and with the introduction of future contracts - they control the market!

What I mean is that they can manipulate the market to push out new/small miners because it's not profitable to be a miner with lower prices. How are they able to do this? They're selling off BTC while also holding BTC Futures. essentially covering their sales and at the same time pushing out miners. They're then able to rebuy at a lower price and wait for the holders and others to start driving the price up. Rinse and repeat


This is me speculating, but it's what I'm seeing happen. If next week we see a 20+% rally, you'll know I may be on the right track.

perhaps not just miners but big time speculators and smart money. This is what we get for being accepted as proper financial instrument with a futures market. We are at the grownups table now and we play my different rules. It's a small market and big players see an opportunity in manipulating it.

...or ... it might be the same 40% crash that we have seen every January until now, with the only difference being the army of noobs that have never seen such a drawdown before.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: rafanadal on January 22, 2018, 02:15:52 PM
there is no bottom
could easily go back to 1k


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: Bitcoin Begger on January 22, 2018, 02:32:10 PM
I am 22 days old in the crypto currency world and I have seen 2 very sharp price decreases. As I don't have much money to buy any currency in the top 10, would it be wise for me to buy penny crypto currencies. Would a seasoned investor advise me to start off in that direction or is it too late to join  the crypto market. I have the equivalent of 50 US dollars in my local South African Rand but cannot buy any portion of the bitcoin because of the minimums required.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: nl247 on January 22, 2018, 02:50:13 PM
BTC so far does not seem to have the strength to climb up for now and the buy strength is so low right now and I would not be surprised if we still go back to test the previous lower support. However, even though we are still in a corrective state, I do not see anything that would make us go lower than the lower low we got to already, so I would rather consider that as the bottom as bitcoin can be full of surprises. A good news is all we need now to give the market a huge strength.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: gentlemand on January 22, 2018, 03:11:03 PM
Eight grand seems to be a common figure being bandied about. The more common a figure is the less likely it is to be correct. Either we never brush it and stay above, or it goes way, way below it.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: fabiorem on January 22, 2018, 03:30:45 PM
My recommendation is to NOT invest until this week is over!!!


CME close between 26th and 30th. I would wait 'til February 1st.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: bucciarati on January 22, 2018, 03:35:29 PM
i think most of us will be suprised in the next three weeks ...

a lot are gonna cry while small big players will laugh, more then usual this time :-) whales become sharks and the sory repeats


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: SONG GEET on January 22, 2018, 04:16:51 PM
I have some buy orders below 10k because I think price will dip even below last time low 9k this time before making recovery.
 
Like many analyst have suggested if price can't jump above $15k on last recovery it can easily test support level at $8k.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: kwukduck on January 22, 2018, 04:18:18 PM
We broke to the 100-day we'll probably close well under there.
There's no support until the 200-day and even that is very weak.
We'll probably see sub 7-8k within 2-3 days.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: ClutchThese on January 22, 2018, 04:21:19 PM
We broke to the 100-day we'll probably close well under there.
There's no support until the 200-day and even that is very weak.
We'll probably see sub 7-8k within 2-3 days.

This is exactly what I think will happen too. Once this happens, Bitcoin will be the main focus of news and radio talk. It's going to be the exact opposite of what it was in December.



Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: fabiorem on January 22, 2018, 04:29:33 PM
The price dropped again in the last 24 hours.

10k was already tested enough, but since it fell again, we are going to 4-5k.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: Theb on January 22, 2018, 04:36:34 PM
It is hard to say where exactly as there is no known major support in the 10,000$ level are and also the last bounce was in the 9,000$ level which means it can go either 10,000$ or 8,000$ with what I am seeing a major drop from 11,800$ to where it is now shows that the correction or the down trend is not yet over good thing we can still benefit from trading this bounce plays. With some recent analysis of mine and similar to what others are saying hopefully the last big dip will make Bitcoin recover and achieve a new all time high.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: zlatan07 on January 22, 2018, 06:05:34 PM
It would be great that 10k USD is the average price of Bitcoin, so we could see some small collisions near to 8k USD mark.
Speculation about 5k USD price is more common and investors see more opportunity to make the profit if that price becomes reachable, so they stopped to buy Bitcoin. There is one key factor in the price of Bitcoin and that is media.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: uslfd on January 22, 2018, 11:47:52 PM
I reckon it might retest 9K again very soon forming a double bottom around 8.5K area and consolidate


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: Morecoin Freeman on January 22, 2018, 11:49:24 PM
10k, easy


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: notaek on January 23, 2018, 12:55:38 AM
After moving up and down, it seems BTC remains in the range between 10K and 12K, is it really possoble for price to dip below 10K and reach to 8K in the next few weeks?

It might. Currently Bitcoin rests within the $10k support level for quite some time now, which is a good thing.

Original analysis about BTC from Kuang Ren:

Overall, price surged by a small range after breaking below MA 1Week after the expansion in volumes at high levels. Though price moved back to MA 1Week later, price kept going downwards. On a weekly basis, therefore, the overall bearish trend remains intact, making it unfavorable to buy at current level.

To be honest, crossing the $5k barrier is pretty bullish according to me. Bitcoin still hasn't reached that state where its price will sustain above $5k.
Considering the scaling issues, onset of LN and schnorr signatures are still needed to appear mainstream which might prove Bitcoin to be much worthy.

The price dropped again in the last 24 hours.

10k was already tested enough, but since it fell again, we are going to 4-5k.

Any evidence to back your fact up?


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: Altas on January 23, 2018, 01:12:42 AM
Already it has reached $10000 several times, so all that we can think about further is the price to reach $8000. Right now the price is showing signs of gradual growth. Based on which I believe the price increase will continue with minor fluctuations leading it to cross $15000.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: Cacingkemi on January 23, 2018, 01:36:15 AM
Nothing really prevents the price to dip below the $10,000 level again with how thin the markets are. With that in mind, people shouldn't put too much weight on another sub $10,000 dip, as long as the market jumps back up again. The only interesting part is when we will fall below the bottom we reached some days ago. It would be too easy to say that we will then head down further, but it may very well be a possibility. On the other hand, we can't really blame the market to be so soft and unwilling to climb up further with nothing interesting happening in the coming weeks/months. If the price happens to go down, then it's because of that, and not like other people think governments cracking down on crypto.
I think BTC will drop to 7K but I'm wrong,BTC will be around 9K-10K just can't go down and well right there are many obstacles around it between 10K.I think the government can't silence this price crypto has become a regular discourse at the beginning of the year which is often jammed,(kuang ren) can't be sure buy BTC now is the right time but I think this is the right time because the price will not fall more well below 10K.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: fabiorem on January 23, 2018, 01:39:50 AM
Any evidence to back your fact up?


Masterluc said we would not go back to below 10k. And here we are, very near to cross it back to four digits.

So I think the market is now acting irrationally, and TA will be useless. Any level will be possible now.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: Enjel on January 23, 2018, 02:30:20 AM
$8k - $9k is the general support area. Anything higher than that should be no worries whatsoever.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: Enjel on January 23, 2018, 02:31:50 AM
Any evidence to back your fact up?


Masterluc said we would not go back to below 10k. And here we are, very near to cross it back to four digits.

So I think the market is now acting irrationally, and TA will be useless. Any level will be possible now.

He never said that though - if you read his post, he said that after the consolidation, it would not go below 10k again... however, he says that in the short-term, even 8k (absolute bottom) is possible, but unlikely.

However... after it's over, "4 digits will be seen again NOT so soon".


In the long run, $45k - $110k.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: talkbitcoin on January 23, 2018, 10:05:04 AM
these round numbers like $10000, $1000, ... have always been like a big resistance for bitcoin. it always takes a lot of time to break them and when and if they are broken they never last long. just as we saw with the recent dip below $10k which only lasted 2 hours.

which is why i say $10k is the bottom for bitcoin and going below it, after testing it another time yesterday is impossible now and only if a horrible bad news comes out it can drop lower and in that case it will go much lower and will stay there. but with FUD it won't.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: alyssa85 on January 23, 2018, 11:48:32 AM
It's sitting at $10,063 at the moment. I think it might try to go beneath $10k, but there are lots of buys around $9000 which should bump the price back up.

I think $8000 is definitely the base line.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: vintages on January 23, 2018, 11:56:49 AM
With the unstable price of bitcoin through out the years, it is nothing if it reaches below $10,000 or even $5000.But what I know quite well is that even if it dips that much, it will surely goes back up. Personally, from my prediction, if bitcoin will maintain a stable price, then it will be between $10,000- $15,000. And we might not see that price this year beginning, probably at the second quarter of the year.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: iqlimasyadiqa on January 23, 2018, 12:14:39 PM
It's sitting at $10,063 at the moment. I think it might try to go beneath $10k, but there are lots of buys around $9000 which should bump the price back up.

I think $8000 is definitely the base line.
Bitcoin prices again experienced a fairly high correction, before I did not think it will happen again. But it is evident that almost all coins have decreased. Keep in mind everything that we should not do panic sell because it can even make the price of Bitcoin continues to decline. Believe that Bitcoin can get back on track, although we may be in the 9,000USD range and may even continue to decline. Optimistic that when we continue to use Bitcoin then Bitcoin will be more trusted and this will make Bitcoin price increase.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: TooDumbForBitcoin on January 23, 2018, 01:03:07 PM
My entry point is 9,100 USD on bitfinex according to range 9,000 - 11,441 USD where we can see first sells during beginning of NOV-DEC rally


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: BitcoinPC on January 23, 2018, 01:15:37 PM
I have prediction about bitcoin that now bitcoin price will down more, nearly it will come at $8000 in the next month and in June bitcoin will try to pick up and it will be come at $25000 and it will be a highest price of bitcoin of 2018 and now it is my prediction and i follow it, to make profit from bitcoin, Because now bitcoin price is still down and it mean we have a chance to buy bitcoin.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: gabmen on January 26, 2018, 03:05:52 PM
I have prediction about bitcoin that now bitcoin price will down more, nearly it will come at $8000 in the next month and in June bitcoin will try to pick up and it will be come at $25000 and it will be a highest price of bitcoin of 2018 and now it is my prediction and i follow it, to make profit from bitcoin, Because now bitcoin price is still down and it mean we have a chance to buy bitcoin.

Any basis for that or technical analysis? I think february would be the recovery month for btc. 8k is probably possible but it will be in a few days from now. If the support holds, then february would make a lot of holders happy.


Title: Re: Where is the bottom for BTC? 10K or 8K?
Post by: wildan88 on January 26, 2018, 05:37:58 PM
I have prediction about bitcoin that now bitcoin price will down more, nearly it will come at $8000 in the next month and in June bitcoin will try to pick up and it will be come at $25000 and it will be a highest price of bitcoin of 2018 and now it is my prediction and i follow it, to make profit from bitcoin, Because now bitcoin price is still down and it mean we have a chance to buy bitcoin.

Any basis for that or technical analysis? I think february would be the recovery month for btc. 8k is probably possible but it will be in a few days from now. If the support holds, then february would make a lot of holders happy.

its possible to down around $8k, but I think bitcoin support is already strong enough to survive around $10k. If the current goes down it is normal because I look at previous year prices bitcoin always falls at the beginning of the year, after a few months later the price will recover and rise even higher.