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Title: When does a Double Spend Unconfirmed Drop and return to wallet?
Post by: Mresq on January 22, 2018, 03:57:33 PM

I am sitting on 2 transactions that have low fees and have been unconfirmed for a month. I figured it would drop at some point but I still haven't had it returned. Does anyone know when the network drops and returns these transactions? I've lost a lot on this already and no has been able to help me push it through.

553b768b3a428dbabacba01aedd00ff7cb84282d6004ea66a9d9db5c1f5d6ff8

Title: Re: When does a Double Spend Unconfirmed Drop and return to wallet?
Post by: DarkStar_ on January 22, 2018, 04:00:32 PM

Quote from: Mresq on January 22, 2018, 03:57:33 PM

What wallet are you using? Block explorers may choose to never drop transactions, but they do not represent the network. Chances are, the transaction is already out of all or most miners' mempools, so should be able to double spend. What wallet are you using? If it's Bitcoin Core, try this:

Quote from: LoyceV on January 12, 2018, 08:45:26 AM

You can manually remove the transactions from Bitcoin Core:
-Exit Bitcoin Core
-Backup your wallet.dat, even though you should have a backup already, make another backup
-Start Bitcoin Core from a command prompt with options -zapwallettxes -rescan (if you're using a pruned wallet, you can't use this)

Depending on your hardware, it will take a few hours to rescan. After this, your transactions should be gone, but Bitcoin Core might pick them up from mempool again. In that case just wait for it to drop again.

Full description of the commands:

Code:

  -zapwallettxes=<mode>
       Delete all wallet transactions and only recover those parts of the
       blockchain through -rescan on startup (1 = keep tx meta data e.g.
       account owner and payment request information, 2 = drop tx meta
       data)

Code:

  -rescan
       Rescan the block chain for missing wallet transactions on startup

Title: Re: When does a Double Spend Unconfirmed Drop and return to wallet?
Post by: Mresq on January 22, 2018, 08:26:16 PM

I am using Blockchain wallet and was trying to send it to my Coinbase with too low a fee. I am happy to send a higher fee, but since the money is still pending, I don't have it in my account to resend. I am at a complete loss for what to do, any help is appreciated.

Title: Re: When does a Double Spend Unconfirmed Drop and return to wallet?
Post by: Xynerise on January 22, 2018, 10:01:32 PM

Quote from: Mresq on January 22, 2018, 08:26:16 PM

Import the seed to a different wallet (eg Mycelium or Samourai for mobile, or Electrum for desktop), then see if it still shows up.
If it does then you can send it with a higher fee .

Your transaction doesn't have any change or you could have done a CPFP transaction.

Title: Re: When does a Double Spend Unconfirmed Drop and return to wallet?
Post by: Thirdspace on January 22, 2018, 10:03:23 PM

Quote from: Mresq on January 22, 2018, 03:57:33 PM

553b768b3a428dbabacba01aedd00ff7cb84282d6004ea66a9d9db5c1f5d6ff8

well, its parent c2fb8d405a38565fcacd38394948897cbbdb03a32ee77fc71f9e34b162c4dd3d (https://blockchain.info/tx/c2fb8d405a38565fcacd38394948897cbbdb03a32ee77fc71f9e34b162c4dd3d) is unconfirmed
and its grandparents, 2 of them, are unconfirmed too
1Kh9G2EBL... (U) (0.00989736 BTC - Output (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/318471380/0)) d76055d2e69a454100b3f0deaef3f8994a4322e58bace93d17a59662551591c9 (https://blockchain.info/tx/d76055d2e69a454100b3f0deaef3f8994a4322e58bace93d17a59662551591c9)
1FUPtCrmG... (U) (0.00989586 BTC - Output (https://blockchain.info/tx-index/318471401/0)) a9d0866f51a1adba0c83a4d2ca14f259096503544ff7bb454906fb65ba14d6d5 (https://blockchain.info/tx/a9d0866f51a1adba0c83a4d2ca14f259096503544ff7bb454906fb65ba14d6d5)
you have to wait for these transactions to get confirmed before your txid 553b768b3a... gets any confirmations

Title: Re: When does a Double Spend Unconfirmed Drop and return to wallet?
Post by: tabas on January 22, 2018, 10:28:44 PM

Quote from: Thirdspace on January 22, 2018, 10:03:23 PM

Quote from: Mresq on January 22, 2018, 03:57:33 PM

553b768b3a428dbabacba01aedd00ff7cb84282d6004ea66a9d9db5c1f5d6ff8

The one that I crossed out has 1 confirmation already, has chance to get confirmation soon. But you can try what xynerise suggested, importing your blockchain.info wallet seeds/words to other wallet to allow you to increase the fee since blockchain.info doesn't have that feature.

Edit: All of them are confirmed.

Title: Re: When does a Double Spend Unconfirmed Drop and return to wallet?
Post by: Anonymous619 on January 22, 2018, 11:28:04 PM

I'm fixing all the unconfirmed ancestors transactions :) just a moment.
Edit - done all the transactions are now confirmed

Title: Re: When does a Double Spend Unconfirmed Drop and return to wallet?
Post by: Mresq on January 24, 2018, 02:15:54 PM

Thanks all for your help. I found a miner on an unrelated site that pushed this through for me within an hour, much obliged to you all!

Title: Re: When does a Double Spend Unconfirmed Drop and return to wallet?
Post by: Anonymous619 on January 24, 2018, 02:21:45 PM

Quote from: Mresq on January 24, 2018, 02:15:54 PM

Thanks all for your help. I found a miner on an unrelated site that pushed this through for me within an hour, much obliged to you all!

I'm the one who add all your transactions on the queue even the unconfirmed parent transactions :)

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