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Title: You reap what you sow
Post by: mizerydearia on January 16, 2011, 03:02:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu9HUBs5mp0 is brilliant


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: grondilu on January 16, 2011, 05:08:35 AM

Impressive.




Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: em3rgentOrdr on January 20, 2011, 10:30:07 PM
I liked that one.


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: Cryptoman on January 25, 2011, 06:34:28 PM
I've grown tired of listening to Molyneux.  It's not that I don't agree with his point of view, but he always seems so negative.  It's time to quit complaining and start taking an active role in smashing the state: black markets, Wikileaks, exploiting inherent weaknesses in bureaucracies, etc.



Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: ribuck on January 25, 2011, 08:21:34 PM
Molyneux ... he always seems so negative.

...And as a result he attracts a band of largely-unhappy followers. It's a real pity, because he's highly intelligent and articulate. If Molyneux could take a cue from Harry Browne's optimistic writing in "How I found freedom in an unfree world (http://www.google.com/search?q=browne+%22freedom+in+an+unfree+world%22+pdf)", his slice of the voluntarist movement would be much more fun.


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: grondilu on January 25, 2011, 09:30:51 PM

If Molyneux could take a cue from Harry Browne's optimistic writing in "How I found freedom in an unfree world (http://www.google.com/search?q=browne+%22freedom+in+an+unfree+world%22+pdf)", his slice of the voluntarist movement would be much more fun.

Thanks for that.  Just read the introduction chapter and I like it.  I like when he says, for instance :

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There must be a way to be free without having to wish for a miracle. It must be a way by which an individual can change things without having to rally the rest of the world to his side.



Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: mizerydearia on January 27, 2011, 08:07:49 PM
If Molyneux could take a cue from Harry Browne's optimistic writing in "How I found freedom in an unfree world (http://www.google.com/search?q=browne+%22freedom+in+an+unfree+world%22+pdf)", his slice of the voluntarist movement would be much more fun.

You should email that to him.  He is human and reads his emails.  He's replied to mine a couple of times.

host@freedomainradio.com


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: grondilu on January 27, 2011, 08:17:48 PM
If Molyneux could take a cue from Harry Browne's optimistic writing in "How I found freedom in an unfree world (http://www.google.com/search?q=browne+%22freedom+in+an+unfree+world%22+pdf)", his slice of the voluntarist movement would be much more fun.

You should email that to him.  He is human and reads his emails.  He's replied to mine a couple of times.

host@freedomainradio.com

You can also email him a link to this thread, in case he doesn't know about bitcoin yet :)


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: mizerydearia on January 28, 2011, 02:20:40 AM
Stefen Molyneux expressed a lack of interest in accepting Bitcoin donations in favor of PayPal donations.  If you consider it, it's quite conflicting considering his agenda.


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: Nefario on January 28, 2011, 04:24:04 AM
Stefen Molyneux expressed a lack of interest in accepting Bitcoin donations in favor of PayPal donations.  If you consider it, it's quite conflicting considering his agenda.

It could also be that he doesn't understand bitcoin.


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: lumos on January 28, 2011, 10:35:11 AM
You should email that to him.  He is human and reads his emails.  He's replied to mine a couple of times.
> harry browne is dead :C ?


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: ribuck on January 28, 2011, 10:52:33 AM
It could also be that he doesn't understand bitcoin.

It's that. One person can't be expected to know everything. He knows the stuff he specializes in. He's not even an open source guy. It's Windows for him.

But I don't criticize someone for a lack of knowledge. If he understood open source, and if he understood bitcoin, I'm sure he'd approve of them.


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: ribuck on January 28, 2011, 10:54:30 AM
> harry browne is dead :C ?

Harry Browne died in 2006. He published "How I found freedom in an unfree world (http://www.google.com/search?q="freedom+in+an+unfree+world"+pdf)" in 1973.


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: mizerydearia on January 28, 2011, 01:38:39 PM
I emailed him link and summary of few comments from this thread to Stefan for him to consider.  However, since he is not bitcoin-inclined, I think it may be useful for someone bitcoin-inclined to assist him with using bitcoins since he may be too busy to establish acceptance of bitcoin on his own efforts.  However, it may be necessary for someone that is friend or family of his to introduce it to him before he shows such acceptance or willingness.


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: grondilu on January 28, 2011, 02:07:10 PM
I emailed him link and summary of few comments from this thread to Stefan for him to consider.  However, since he is not bitcoin-inclined, I think it may be useful for someone bitcoin-inclined to assist him with using bitcoins since he may be too busy to establish acceptance of bitcoin on his own efforts.  However, it may be necessary for someone that is friend or family of his to introduce it to him before he shows such acceptance or willingness.

One email should be enough.  Why should we make so much efforts in order to give money to someone ?

This guy is far from stupid.   He's perfectly capable of understanding what bitcoin is and how it works.  If he's not, then he's not so smart and I don't care about this guy, nor am I willing to give him anything.


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: ribuck on January 28, 2011, 02:32:13 PM
This guy is far from stupid ... If he's not, then he's not so smart and I don't care about this guy, nor am I willing to give him anything.

It's not about smart or stupid, it's about getting heard above the 10,000 other things that are clamouring for his attention.

He has a huge following, many of whom would be very interested in Bitcoin. I'll post something in their forum.


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: mizerydearia on January 28, 2011, 02:36:09 PM
One email should be enough.  Why should we make so much efforts in order to give money to someone ?

See http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=804.0 where there was quite a bit of effort


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: kiba on January 28, 2011, 02:39:22 PM
We have not even saturated the whole libertarian movement with bitcoin. Surely, we can do better than this.


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: ribuck on January 28, 2011, 03:59:09 PM
"What are Bitcoins?" at the FreeDomainRadio forum:
http://freedomainradio.com/BOARD/forums/t/29271.aspx

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We have not even saturated the whole libertarian movement with bitcoin.

I doubt whether even 1% of libertarians have heard of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: JohnDoe on January 28, 2011, 08:27:45 PM
We have not even saturated the whole libertarian movement with bitcoin. Surely, we can do better than this.

It may be counterintuitive but I've found that a lot of libertarians are pretty closed-minded. They worship gold and silver like a regular person worships government and when you challenge their beliefs they immediately go on the defensive. I guess it's part of human physiology, we prefer trading one god for another rather than destroying him completely from our minds.


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: em3rgentOrdr on January 29, 2011, 07:25:50 AM
We have not even saturated the whole libertarian movement with bitcoin. Surely, we can do better than this.

It may be counterintuitive but I've found that a lot of libertarians are pretty closed-minded. They worship gold and silver like a regular person worships government and when you challenge their beliefs they immediately go on the defensive. I guess it's part of human physiology, we prefer trading one god for another rather than destroying him completely from our minds.

I have noticed that too, JohnDoe.  I think it also has to do with psychology whereby you trust gold and silver because you feel comfortable with them.  Then bitcoin is the new kid on the block, so you are immediately skeptical.


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: mizerydearia on January 29, 2011, 12:27:56 PM
I received response from Stefan Molyneux:
Quote from: Stefan Molyneux
Thanks for the prompt, I will check it out some more…


Title: Re: You reap what you sow
Post by: ribuck on January 29, 2011, 01:59:28 PM
There's a thread at their forum, seeking an alternative to PayPal for donations. Naturally I suggested Bitcoin:
http://freedomainradio.com/BOARD/forums/p/29276/225000.aspx