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Title: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: shailkumari on January 26, 2018, 05:10:48 AM
Has merit system started to show positive benefits. I think spammers must have understood that it will take forever to reach higher levels and will stop creating new accounts. I tried to check the new registrations here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sort=registered;start=0

But get the error " Sorry, no matches were found (Viewing all members is temporarily disabled)".

Can anyone confirm that merit system is showing positive effects ?


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: MadZ on January 26, 2018, 05:13:33 AM
I think it's much too soon to tell if the system has shown any positive or negative effects. It's only been out for two days, give it some time.


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: Bagaji on January 30, 2018, 10:54:53 AM
Op, i think it is too early to expect positive impacts from merit system particularly on the quality of members post. Although i can say categorically that one of the recent impact to those who have earned merits can be found in the recent  @Yahoo62288 which differentiate payment to  those who have merits and those who don't have merits.
You see for yourself here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827626.0


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: pablito1989 on January 30, 2018, 10:58:43 AM
Probably you can find less spammers around here, but I see a lot of people complaining about Merit System so..  I don't know which situation is better tbh


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: TMAN on January 30, 2018, 10:59:41 AM
Op, i think it is too early to expect positive impacts from merit system particularly on the quality of members post. Although i can say categorically that one of the recent impact to those who have earned merits can be found in the recent  @Yahoo62288 which differentiate payment to  those who have merits and those who don't have merits.
You see for yourself here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827626.0

and that is fucking awesome.. it will enable decent posters to get paid and shit posters to end up with Nada! this embraces the system and as long as Yahoo keeps on increasing the minimum required merits in time those without merits will end up being kicked from campaigns.


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: ducdr on January 30, 2018, 11:21:53 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sort=registered;start=0
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I dont really know which meaning of the link you shown. However, the merit system might have both negative and possitive effects on users, both lower- and higher-class of users.

The real problem is how long will it last? Organisms or human always find ways to adapt to new challenges, new changes, and part of them will survive for sure, smaller part of them will evolve over time to something or someone really really hard to imagine. They might move up to higher levels of spamming, cheating, etc.

So, my question is "How long will possitive effects of merit system last?"


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: actmyname on January 30, 2018, 11:27:35 AM
They might move up to higher levels of spamming, cheating, etc.
So they're going to consistently post quality posts in order to get some merit?

Score!
Those that adapt to the system will create more constructive posts—that's a positive for the forum. Those that don't will stay at their rank.

Simple natural selection.


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: samcrypto on January 30, 2018, 11:29:10 AM
We can't say yet but I can see many people are keep on talking about merit system and I think everyone is starting to work now on this matter therefore quality poster will go around the forum and this a good thing so far. We still have more time to improved the system, and this is a great step towards the future.




Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: anjaydut on January 30, 2018, 11:36:01 AM
With the merit system, the number of spamer will drop
This is the positive side of the merit system
And in my opinion, the merit system also has a negative impact, here's my personal opinion, at the moment my account has generated 158 posts
112 activities, and only has 10 merit
I need 90 more merit to be able to raise the rank, become a full member
I have tried to make a post that is really constructive, but has not gained the trust of people in my opinion
and I have to be patient about this


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: TMAN on January 30, 2018, 11:43:46 AM
With the merit system, the number of spamer will drop
This is the positive side of the merit system
And in my opinion, the merit system also has a negative impact, here's my personal opinion, at the moment my account has generated 158 posts
112 activities, and only has 10 advantages
I need 90 more awards to be able to raise the rank, become a full member
I have tried to make a post that is really constructive, but has not gained the trust of people in my opinion
and I have to be patient about this

For starters try to improve your English buddy, until that happens people will struggle to read your posts and then not give them any merits because the English is broken.


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: Siopao on January 30, 2018, 02:33:16 PM
The effects of this merit system is yet to be find out. For now I think it's still on acceptance testing. I find this new system very challenging as there are slim chance of being given with merit so I really have to work hard for it. I hope that this merit system really serves its purpose of cleaning the forum.


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: di.ako.toh on January 30, 2018, 03:30:33 PM
I think so, in some part merits system has still a positive impact because these could measure the quality of these posts in the bounty program.


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: yamortsac on January 30, 2018, 04:40:48 PM
Yes I think so, this system was created to improve the quality of posts of everyone here and to clean up this forum. And when I have read some posts and comments of some users, I can say that many are trying to adapt the new system and trying to improve the quality of their posts.


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on January 30, 2018, 04:52:54 PM
The post quality (in my opinion) has dramatically increased around here since the new system was implemented. I’ve seen much less shitposting from people.

I think it’s a massive positive to be perfectly honest. 


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: aurorabitcoin.96 on January 30, 2018, 04:56:45 PM
They might move up to higher levels of spamming, cheating, etc.
So they're going to consistently post quality posts in order to get some merit?

Score!
Those that adapt to the system will create more constructive posts—that's a positive for the forum. Those that don't will stay at their rank.

Simple natural selection.
Got the point! Be a classy member isn't hard as many people think. More we read and know in this forum, you can give arguments properly.
And, with this Merit System, lazy people will kicked out. So, why must scare about merit if you have quality? :D


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: sergienkoe on January 30, 2018, 05:15:31 PM
Dont you think that the merit system is too superficial?
Why not improve it and do really useful and understandable.
What do you think about my idea? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2851171.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2851171.0)
It seems to me that this will help to make such a system of merit, which everyone will like.


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: ducdr on January 31, 2018, 01:10:58 AM
Yes I think so, this system was created to improve the quality of posts of everyone here and to clean up this forum. And when I have read some posts and comments of some users, I can say that many are trying to adapt the new system and trying to improve the quality of their posts.

The post quality (in my opinion) has dramatically increased around here since the new system was implemented. I’ve seen much less shitposting from people.

I think it’s a massive positive to be perfectly honest.  

Me too. That is instant positive effects of merit system. However, as I discussed before at the thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2825306.msg29231021#msg29231021

The true, really big issue will occur after some weeks, some months when lower-ranked users move up to higher-ranked ones. At that time, will they need to keep writing high-quality, constructive threads? I don't think so, they will certainly lose their motivations.

Once again, I would like to raise a question "How long will positive effects of merit system last?"

~ Only time can answer the question above!


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: di.ako.toh on January 31, 2018, 02:44:48 PM
I think merits have really positive effects to all users, especially to those have joined signature campaigns. Because they are pushed through to participate with  quality post that may really help others to get info from them.


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: G2z_Riya on January 31, 2018, 03:08:33 PM
Merit system is expected to make a big change. In reality this takes time. We cannot expect change to happen in a much shorter time period. With this possibly soon or within stipulated time period users will create good quality posts.


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: Cryptoshops on January 31, 2018, 03:21:09 PM
Merit will create claims and counter claims about people trying to sell it for A profit. Its allready happend on here and will continue. In my opinion merits just creates problems for users. When I tried it out on my forums I used to run I ended up taking it off because I got sick of emails from users claiming other users were selling merits. It caused nothing but arguements amongst a lot of the users too.


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: hilariousetc on January 31, 2018, 04:55:09 PM
You can tell it's had positive effects already by the number of shitposters complaining about it. Only lazy/low quality posters complain because they know it's going to be very difficulty for them to rank up or at the very least they're not going to have to start putting effort into their posts that also needs to be recognised by others. To your average illiterate generic shitposter this will be nigh on impossible.

Yes I think so, this system was created to improve the quality of posts of everyone here and to clean up this forum. And when I have read some posts and comments of some users, I can say that many are trying to adapt the new system and trying to improve the quality of their posts.

I think so, in some part merits system has still a positive impact because these could measure the quality of these posts in the bounty program.

The effects of this merit system is yet to be find out. For now I think it's still on acceptance testing. I find this new system very challenging as there are slim chance of being given with merit so I really have to work hard for it. I hope that this merit system really serves its purpose of cleaning the forum.

I wonder what are the odds you are all the same person? All on the same campaign and all registered in September 2017  ::).

The post quality (in my opinion) has dramatically increased around here since the new system was implemented. I’ve seen much less shitposting from people.

I think it’s a massive positive to be perfectly honest. 

Shitposting will naturally decrease because previously any old shitpost would count towards activity/post count but now these sorts of posts will get them nowhere so they know they can't easily rank up this way anymore. Now all we need to work on is getting campaigns to not pay for shitposts and the forum will clean itself up.


Title: Re: Is merit system showing positive effects ?
Post by: romanovst on January 31, 2018, 06:33:55 PM
Dont you think that the merit system is too superficial?
Why not improve it and do really useful and understandable.
What do you think about my idea? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2851171.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2851171.0)
It seems to me that this will help to make such a system of merit, which everyone will like.

I do not think that it is a good idea to hijack this thread and add your thread link here. You should have simple mentioned your idea in brief.

I think merits have really positive effects to all users, especially to those have joined signature campaigns. Because they are pushed through to participate with  quality post that may really help others to get info from them.

I think signature campaigns already have a lot of applicants to choose from. They used to reject profiles with spammy behavior in the past as well. Now with this additional requirement, we can expect more refined selection.