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Congratulations to the happy couple! So this is how the merit system looks like in practise:

aTriz rewarding Lauda with 50 merit points for a 'shitpost' (not my choice of word, but often used by those type of people) like this:

Link:
https://i.imgur.com/G2LiuPt.png (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2813828.msg28801076#msg28801076)

Half an hour later Lauda answering aTriz with 20 merit points only for opening a simple bounty thread in November:

Link:
https://i.imgur.com/FROGW2r.png (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2482937.msg25417254#msg25417254)

Klaaas also wanted to get merit with Lauda and gave his all away for only one commercial opening post:
Link:
https://i.imgur.com/wiGcpR7.png (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608655.msg16153710#msg16153710)

Does anyone doubt that any member outside the established circle would get tagged red for such merit farming?

This is just one example of what I mean when I write about abuse of the merit system and abuse of the trust system by the established members.

give it a rest

Why give this case a rest and not all the other cases outside the established circle? Tell me?

Seriously, the jealousy and butthurt vibe is near overwhelming.  They can do what they like with their merit points, and it's not like legendaries need any of that anyway.  Me, I could care less if I get merit points.  It's a status symbol as far as rank goes if you're at the maximum already.  But hey, keep creating mindless threads, hoping you'll accumulate enough merit so's you can rank your idiotic ass up.  Whatever gets you off.

The "established circle", or should we just call them the old farts that hang around this thread, have given way more to this fourm then you can ever imagine if they want to give each other merit then good, because you wanna know why? who ever they give it too, will be able to give it to OTHER people.

hopefully there will be a better policy with this new regulation, because the new rules, can only be useful for heroes and legendary members only. but we have to wait for someone kind enough to give us they merit

make a useful fucking post and stop bitching and maybe you would get a merit point or 2.

I couldn't care less about merit points and moving up. There are other things however I do care about.


I know nothing of the past of forum members. I only see the present. And what I see is abuse, contempt, hypocrisy and scam. There's nothing meritable about that no matter how old the 'fart' in question is.

Where do you see abuse or a scam?

You are just one dense motherfucker that you don't understand that atriz and lauda deserve all the merits and more

And they deserve to be treated in a similar way with similar behaviour. When they tag others for trust- and merit farming they should be the first to get tagged when doing exactly the same.

Hmmmm interesting....

🤣

Here's the thing. The merit system was created to slow down shitposting and shitposters from leveling up. Atriz is hero, Klaas too and Lauda is legendary. What would be the point of farming merits??

The point? The taggers themselves say to never judge on basis of motives but solely on basis of actions, and thus they should be judged in the same way. And I have posted hard evidence of actions which constitute merit farming for which other members are tagged negative. So they should too.

it must be the dowry for the marriage

Basically they destroyed 50% of their sent sMerits someone else may have deserved ;)

Even these two accounts are farming merits to each other, why bother, even if they collect a huge amount of post it is pointless, unless they can spread theirs to help other members in this to reach a higher rank.

That's a very short post, but it made me laugh, and I thus gave you some merit points for it.

You're a perfect example of someone who posts very interesting posts--with some humor, even--and your 1st language is not English if I'm not mistaken. 

Lol, as if the two needed it.

Are you farming merit? Looks like it. You're using the system in the way it was created for, therefore you are abusing it. Tsk tsk tsk.....

There is always the possibility that Theymos may introduce a new rank requiring more Merit than 1,000. 

I get that, however this is present day with no such thing on the horizon (at least not yet).

As you said, it's a possibility. There is no point in doing anything "fishy" if there is no reason for it.

Even if they don't need the merits it's still not right trading merits with friends. They are here before us and they should set an example. They are in the position already and it comes with responsibility. Now the problem is when unsignificant people trade merits they tag them red trust but why not atriz and lauda? so there's always and exemption? I was happy that this merit system was  introduced and that there are few people giving chances to the newbies by making thread for them so that they can at least prove their worth, but when I see this post it makes me sad. Now I now believe in the post I saw that rich will be rich and poor will be poor here.

I thought Theymos nixed that idea a while back in a thread about the new forum software.  I think it would be a damn good idea, because we're going to end up with the majority of users being legendary at some point.  I'm not a mathematician and don't know how the bell curve would turn out exactly, but that's what it seems would happen given enough time.   

;;8ball
Result: _I_ don't know.

Doesn't look favorable.

Because we did nothing wrong, idiot. They are hunting for alts which are sending each other merit. We are not alts nor does sending me merit matter. Therefore, it can never be farming.

I am not giving random shitposters merit points. You can forget about that.

Because they are the power here and we are just under them no one can say they are wrong. They are always correct we cannot protest that's the reality. We noobs just have to deal with it.
It's either we whine or kiss their asses.

I'd like to know what this power is and how it can be used? Thanks.

Looks, I just gave Lauda merit for a random post. Am I part of the cool kids club now?

No, you are now a confirmed alt account and you are abusing/making fun of the merit system. DT2 will tag your account soon and theymos will kick Lauda off DT.... 🤣

To help spread the love, I gave aTriz another 10 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2482937.msg25417254#msg25417254) and you 10.

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Meanwhile, baboons like thaayb (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=61174) should really mind their own business.

I'm going to run out of sMerit points to hand out with posts like this!

I've been wondering about that...

Perhaps accumulated Merit plus rank will be a gateway to leveling up on the DT list?

It wouldn't be hard to filter out bulk merits by counting a merit >= 1 as just one merit point

The power to destroy profiles with negative trust for your own devious plans or subjective whims. You know all about it!

Dena just checked the post because Lauda is abusing again massivly
and all i can say always the same people involved to defend this scam.

I will spread the word and give you some trust back since they try hard to discredit us with their only weapon.Tomorrow lets see what kind of trust level they will have

Thanks for being on the side of honesty and fairness. I always appreciate such stances.

Lauda has given negative trust for some people involved with bumping thread. Most of them deserved it because they have alt accounts. The others tried to apologize and ask a second chance but she blocked them. It looks like she deserved a second chance when she tried an extortion here 1 year ago. And Lauda asks why serious people from bitcoin community are leaving this forum...

just have a look guys.Selling accounts is according to guidelines allowed


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

Oh my god, some unofficial rules and guidelines said it's okay to do something, that means that it must be a completely fine and legitimate thing to do! Just look at scamming other users, that isn't mentioned as being against the rules, therefore it is completely fine and good for the community to do!

Do you see how stupid your argument is? And it is completely off topic.

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Giving merit isn't a scam. Giving Lauda merit isn't a scam. Lauda giving merit to someone else isn't a scam.

Its just proof that you guys clearly abused your power.

You should get a shitstorm now for the shit you created with your group.


Its posted by the global mod and there is no other info posted that selling accounts is not allowed.


How can you abuse your power calling people scammers if there is a clear guideline that its allowed.


Its your fucking group who started abusing it and you deserve like the rest of your group an instant ban

I've done nothing towards you. Before this conversation I didn't even know you existed.

See the above.

Tell you what, do you agree that scamming is a bad thing? I sincerely hope that you do.
What I want you to do, is I want you to find me the rule on that thread that says that a user cannot scam another user. When you find it, feel free to quote or copy it here.

What you will find is that no such rule exists. Now, here comes the tricky part. Does that rule not existing mean that scamming another user is something that you should do? Does it mean that, because that rule isn't on that list, people should ignore the people scamming others?

I don't have any power, nor do I particularly want any. If you want an answer to that question, try the above answer. You should also keep in mind that even though account sales aren't not allowed, they are discouraged, meaning that the forum would rather that you didn't do them.

I fully expect you to ignore everything I just said, and brush it off as just me 'protecting my group'. If you actually try to refute my points though, you'll get some extra brownie points.

That's what I'm trying to understand. Okay, so there's an "inner circle" that's conspiring to give each other merit... But they don't actually need any merit for anything at all so it doesn't really mean anything. So... They just generated random fake numbers that mean nothing on a forum.

SCAM! Lol.

I doubt the merit system will work at all with no control.Merit is basicly a reputation system if i understand it correctly.
It has been used so many times on diffrent boards and it always was abused after certain amount of time.

First the circles exchanging themself merit.Since the staff has no time for scammers i doubt staff will have time to check logs who is participating in such circles.
Second mostly higher ranked users got more merit power than average users which will grow exponencially.
Means after certain time a simple merit like from a high ranked member could be worth like 20-50 normal members.
Thats not decentralisation of power which was the main idea of this board.

Its clearly the attempt to take full controll by a small group which destroyes everyone who won't consent their BS.

Using this kind of system will just attract more spammers to build trusted accounts and start services.It has been proven on each other messageboard even on heavy moderated ones.

We'll ignore the deflection from minifrij's remark.

These comments of yours tell us that you do not understand how the merit system works. What is this 'merit power' you're referring to? And exponential growth is quite the opposite: sMerit decays exponentially.

How does reducing the accessibility of signature campaigns attract more spam? That just doesn't make sense to me ::)

Basically the control was already there through the trust system abuse. The merit system only tightened the grip.

they are not abusing the merit system and you have created this thread because of personal vengeance against Lauda .. you installed some kind of censor in the body of lauda or you stay all day watching lauda waiting for the right moment to attack.

This forum is becoming a battlefield.

So the merit system is for totally free or should use as one wishes?
Here I see someone offering signature campaign on merit base system.

Everyone has right to speech, the On poster clearly explained abusing of Merit System. Have you ever been in SMF forums or any other forums?

Problem i didn't opened that thread.It was somebody else.
And of course i'm pissed about the massiv abuse of Lauda and his/her group which i make now public.
I gave them 24h to fix their abuse.
I gave them a choice and once the 24h is over i'm going to make it massivly public how Lauda is abusing and scamming people.


And the diffrence between me and him or her is that i make it the offical and legal way buy posting everything public and most important sending massivly traffic to it so people can decide themself based on evidences who is right and who not.
It has a reason why so many people complain about Lauda and his or her group and why she or he got kicked out from staff before

Once time passed you will see what is going to happen and at the end i can bet all ITO's where he/she manages bounty will be officaly asked for a statement.
The king/queen will have to step down trying to calm everything down but it will be replied with the same behavior everyone else got

The Merit system is intended to be used if you find a post, or the person posting it, constructive and beneficial to the forum. I do agree that this is very general, however whether it is abuse or not does - I think - depend on the people involved.

Providing that the merit system is used as intended, and how the signature campaign was run, that could be a completely legitimate way to use Merit.

For example, if a user is running a signature campaign and would only accept users over a certain threshold of merit then it would be absolutely fine. Since given merit is intended to be used as a way to gauge post quality, only accepting users with a high amount of merit would be a fairly decent way to weed out shitposters.
However, if a user was running a signature campaign and required each participant to give him merit to get paid then it would be wrong and the user would likely be warned/punished for such.

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This should be fun.

Hey scammer giving merit for the word butthead is constructive for the forum ?
You fuckers come here claiming to save the forum claiming there was a consent to many topics like not selling accounts and abusing your trust power where even mods didn't agreed on that else they would change the terms and guideliness and after you were exposed you claim it was a community consensus ?
I guess community means just you few fuckers to make self benefical.

Best of all most you fuckers were back in the  days lending coins for accounts as collateral.
Seems you had no issues with that fucking losers

Read here:  Merit & new rank requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0)

creating a thread because of revenge often becomes worse for the person who creates the thread.


You wanted to buy an account.

I've explained this to you previously (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2829282.msg29074253#msg29074253), and you ignored me. Feel free to reply to that whenever you like.

I'm going to ignore the rest of your post, since it is just mindless insults with no actual relevance to me.

You are an exposed scammer together with Lauda and TMAN

You fucking loser are trying to legimimate your scammy action in the name of scams.The biggest scam is your group abusing the trust feedback to destroy legit accounts and competition and nothing more.All you do is hiding against fighting scams.

If account selling is allowed on BCT how can you call it a scam ?Is buying an account instantly a scam ?

You fucking piece of shit have NOT to decide about it with your smal pathetic group which are trying to milk the community as much as possible and even described the community as worthless shit you want be talking to.........but using your poor argument to protect your so called worthless community against scams.


Yeah i belive that sure.I saw how you fuckers act and how you destroy legit accounts with no blinking of an eye.


All of you will get exposed and you can trust me your trust will be destroyed once and forever once people read truth about you fuckers.


It has been already proofen once that you Lauda and TMAN tried to scam someone.

This will be the end of your gang

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Anyone taking Lauda for his ITO must be insane.He is so hated by the community because of his massiv abuse that he has to defend himself with his group everywhere.

He has already been in the past exposed for a big scam and lost his position as moderator.

Anyone taking him needs to know it will light a very bad light on your ITO.

TMAN and Minifrij was part of that scam thats why he keeps defending Lauda as he is part of the group.


You can read it here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.msg17624090#msg17624090
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1786074.msg17811352#msg17811352

another scam of TMAN

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2214957.msg22327483#msg22327483
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1775044.msg17703267#msg17703267

Have a look who exposed them and have a look at their profil how they are trying hard to destroy his rep

You clearly have some form of mental deficiency if you fail to read a post after being pointed directly to it. I'll leave you to live in your happy little world.

I really wish you could make that happen Thule. Futile or not, like my postings, I support you for the full 100% in it.

After all it are not the results that matter the most but the braviour to take a stand for truth.

Its your personal definition of a scam.
You attacked all buyers and sellers instantly as scammer not knowing what purpose that account had and its not because you are a smarita its because you used that function to destroy compeition.

Your explanation to scam somebody for a lot of money was also funny.
We did it to gather more information for the good of the community

Same shit as always fucking scammers

I can't really call him happy with the word he chose, he might be living in his personal hell :(

Little did you know that everyone on BTCtalk is a scammer, but you are different, you are the chosen one that will slay all evil that lurks within DT lists.

On a more serious note, BTCtalk is unique and different than other forums you might find, on other forums it is ok to buy and sell accounts as they don't hold anything in it.
On here however, accounts as they hold the user's reputation in it, many people buy accounts just either for scam purposes or signature campaigns (with degraded quality), this behaviour are considered untrusted, hence why DT Members giving a -neg on sellers and buyers.

I tried to phrase it as neutral as possible, but you're probably gonna label me as one of your scammers anyway  :-\

Edit: oh hey, my first -neg, thanks buddy, seeing blacks on my trust kinda bore me :)

The first line from the above link says

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks.

So both are cheating in order to achieve higher ranks.
50 points for a single post ?

Lauda is the highest rank, aTriz is the second highest. Along with this, there is little to no benefit for either to get a higher rank anyway (other than aTriz just being able to say 'Look at me I'm Legendary' - which is admittedly pretty nice).

It's not possible to merit a person, and therefore you have to merit a post that they have made.
An example in my case is my 50 merits to Lutpin. I've known Lutpin for a while and I consider them to be an extremely beneficial member to the forum, and therefore I gave him 50 merit on a post of his.

You guys are clear scammers who are getting now exposed

Thule, I admire your ferociousness and you don't appear to be a total shitposter, but you're on the wrong side of the battlefield, buddy.  And the way you post makes me think you just might be an alt of Quickseller, but I'm not outright accusing you of that, nor am I a paranoid person by nature. 

The thing is, most people--even if they do nothing about it--realize how bad the quality of posts has gotten on bitcointalk, and to a lesser extent they realize that dealing in accounts is seriously toxic to the forum.  People buy them and leverage any trust that the account has in order to scam.  I'm pretty sure when I got scammed out of 0.3BTC in 2016, the TimSweat account was a bought one.  And if the person isn't scamming, he's taking a shortcut in order to shitpost in a sig campaign.  Both of those things aren't good, and that's why we tag the accounts.

No you are trying to change a decentralised forum into a centralised forum where the power is being hold in the hands of a few people who have proofed in the past that they abused it already and giving shit about it.
You want to fight selling account than first change the forum guideline and make it forbidden on that forum but don't act like your small group is going to decide what is allowed and what not based on some BS conversation you have in your small circle.

Reading already that you are going to defame project managers and ITO's which won't follow your rules for accepting members is just insane and shows me that you guys totaly lost control of your mind.
You clearly see no borders in the name of fighting spam and scam.

Your group has abused hundreds of legit accounts mine included and you basicly give shit about it.
Somebody got scammed and you are concerned about it ?I got defamed and you don't even care so don't tell me you care about people who got scammed.

And to say the truth i piss in everyones mouth who creates these kind of leadership.
You think BCT can't be replaced ?It can happen very quickly and i know it from past experience since i work on I-Marketing for over 20 years fulltime

People will quickly move where the money is and not where a group of pisshead is trying to establish themself in the name of protecting of scam.
People won't stay here because of you pissheads you need to release it.There are here because of the coins and ITO's and they can quickly move to another board and you can trust me most members will follow them without even thinkning about it and you will get your dead forum which you seem to look for

Thule do the same thing I did. Move foward. We won't be blocked from using this forum because of a neg rate. I tried to apologize and asking a second chance, you tried, everyone tried. They don't give a shit about it (with a very few exceptions of DT members).

Sorry my sense of justice doesn't allow me that.They abused so many people and defamed me with their false accuses that it's time to teach them a lesson.
Once it will reach high amounts of crypto readers which i'm currently preparing you will see how they will run and try to fix everything
All campaigns Lauda is managing will be contacted and forwarded with Lauda's idea to defame project managers and ITO's which won't follow their rules which they decide in their small circle.

You will see how quickly they will distance from such a person which is the opposite of the main idea of decentralisation.

The viral effect will be heavy expecially as all the thousands of people who got abused by Lauda and that group will be joining that route.

Reddit front page is ready to go.Some more stuff and the action will take place

Agree with your thought that the new merit system and small group control the forum power will be lead people to replace BCT and move to other board where the money is. it is clear that all this war by this group is to control the largest share of the gain available here in this forum.

LOL.  I personally don't have a deep gripe with you, though you are probably a shitposter.  I liked this post, however and gave you 1 merit point for it.  May you never rank up to Sr. Member without significantly improving your output.

Isn't this basically how we're supposed to be using the merit system, i.e., as a "like" function?  I may not like some of the users I've given merits to, but some of the posts I respect and some (like Deena's here) took a little bit of effort, which I can appreciate.  I have not so far only given merits to people I "like" or who are in "my circle".

Who added the merit system? Who added the trust system? Who added DefaultTrust?

Who controls the forum?

Who controls the forum?

Decentralized, huh?

[quote author=The Pharmacist link=topic=2829282.msg29130003#msg29130003 date=1517174338]
[quote author=Thule link=topic=2829282.msg29115267#msg29115267 date=1517159042]
Have a look who exposed them and have a look at their profil how they are trying hard to destroy his rep
[/quote]Thule, I admire your ferociousness and you don't appear to be a total shitposter, but you're on the wrong side of the battlefield, buddy.  And the way you post makes me think you just might be an alt of Quickseller, but I'm not outright accusing you of that, nor am I a paranoid person by nature. 

The thing is, most people--even if they do nothing about it--realize how bad the quality of posts has gotten on bitcointalk, and to a lesser extent they realize that dealing in accounts is seriously toxic to the forum.  People buy them and leverage any trust that the account has in order to scam.  I'm pretty sure when I got scammed out of 0.3BTC in 2016, the TimSweat account was a bought one.  And if the person isn't scamming, he's taking a shortcut in order to shitpost in a sig campaign.  Both of those things aren't good, and that's why we tag the accounts.
[/quote]

It's Probable:

Name:    Thule
Posts:    527
Activity:    322
Merit:    257
Position:    Sr. Member
Date Registered:    15 July 2014, 01:35:37

Received Merit from QS:

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/17/blobc9c737f574251558.jpeg

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13 July 2014, 15:46:25 Date Registered:        orryde u=354974
16 July 2014, 04:34:45 Date Registered:    superSTAR777 u=355868
19 July 2014, 08:42:05 Date Registered:    z3r0coin u=357026 http://archive.is/GpA5U
20 July 2014, 05:29:56 Date Registered:    ACCTseller u=357263
20 July 2014, 06:40:20 Date Registered:    deluxeCITY u=357282
21 July 2014, 01:31:08 Date Registered:    Panthers52 u=357487
22 July 2014, 15:51:40 Date Registered:    Quickseller u=358020
01 August 2014, 18:39:15 Date Registered:    twister u=361475

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Hmm...

16 June 2014, 03:27:23 Date Registered:        BiPolarBob u=343899

First post in 14 months: Archive: http://archive.is/ygJi6#selection-479.0-485.4

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/17/blobe56d53546470545c.jpeg

Previous last post  http://archive.is/8NEat#selection-399.1-489.35

Just strange (that QS would give this post merit) really...

@Thule



Whats your problem with me? I did not do anything, I just told you that: " you wanted to buy an account" something disgusting... and for that reason you left me negative feedback?

https://i.imgur.com/96YB3To.jpg

Do not worry about untrusted feedback.  I have hundreds calling me everything in the book.

Where is your problem ?

I got also negativ feedback for nothing and one for a rule which doesnt exist and you said youself its ok for you.
So why are you upset if i use the trustfeedback the same way ?
You didn't broke any rule.Normaly i would be happy about every negativ comment since i belive in free speach and to defend it but since you have no problem with abuse of it i just showed how it feels to get abused.
Am a bit shocked that now when it affects you personly you have a problem with it

For the same reason the newbs are doing it.

I support the idea of the merit system being uncensored, since censoring it will make people afraid of spending their sMerits, however, if we want the newbs not to engage in Merit exchanges, there should be examples of that behaviour from trusted members.

You gotta admit you see their point.
If one of them gave someone 20 Merits for a post like that, and then got 10 back, someone would probably neg him.
I'm not saying that's wrong behaviour, I'm just saying we should try to set an example instead of saying omg, shitpost,spammer, stfu since simmilar behaviour on their end would be penalized and frowned upon, it can be hard to spot the differences for lower ranking members.

Also, I really don't consider this (http://prntscr.com/i7czpx) to be worthy of a neg.
My belief is that this is not what the trust system was designed for.
It's designed to fight against scams, can you trust someone with your BTC or not, not to neg people who attack you, no matter what they're saying.

When will OP stop beating a dead horse?
At least create a single thread to express your concern. Its not like a single thread will remain unnoticed here.

The amount of threads created in this board against aTriz and Lauda is just ridiculous.

There is no point. I can leave merit to whomever I want[1], wherever I want and in whatever amount I want. If you don't like it, then ask theymos to change the rules.

You don't understand the Trust system then.

Incorrect. Theymos supported the tagging similar liars (see Bcash case), therefore it is warranted even according to him (although, individual cases are debatable; we are talking about the type).

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[1] This works when you don't have an army of alts (see Quickseller et. al.).

Theymos had no choice since you fucker already neg repped everyone.He staid behind you as Mod at that time but now you lost all credibility to him and thats for a reason.

Then why doesn't theymos remove Lauda from DT by excluding them from his trust list?

Are you telling me negative feedback should only be given to people who break the rules? Then in that case, spamming would warrant negative feedback and scams wouldn't. If we're going by that logic. ::)

"Because you are doing it, I can do it as well" is not a good argument.

So Lauda had joined the forum than pther people? or does Lauda = Theymos ?
since Lauda is having highest merit points as you said.

It's not possible to merit a person, and therefore you have to merit a post that they have made. [/quote]
It's not a constructive post or benefited to the forums and both run same service called ALU  ;)
As you said above, merit is based on the constructive post and now you are saying merit is for a known person.  Why you change your words while posting here?

You know Lutpin and do you know Theymos, Sathoshi NAKAMOTO?

That's not even a valid question.
::)

Highest rank =/= highest merit points.

It is very much a constructive post.

It's redundant to look through the post history of someone and distribute the number of merit points among the historical points when you can give them to a single post.

In what sense are you comparing aTriz and Lauda to a dead horse?

And that the amount of threads created in this board against aTriz and Lauda is very high only is a sign of their abuse of power. It is the latter which is 'ridiculous' not that people react to it.


My sad conclusion has to be that the forum owner himself has to be corrupt too, for otherwise he would not maintain the situation as it is.


That's the evil thing about the forum governance. Laws and punishment are detached from each other. It's like the cop who's given the fiat to shoot whoever he likes, innocent or not.


So shall we all stop doing it then? 'I can be bad but you cannot' is not a good argument either.

I haven't, you just can't read. Try going through my post slowly, remembering everything I said. If you still can't understand it, I'll try to write it in simpler language for you.

Those two don't necessarily follow. When you're adding to someone's criminal record (real-life equivalent of red trust for the sake of the comparison) then of course there will be backlash whether you're right or not. Just because someone is vocal about it does not mean that they are innocent. You may very well have ponzi promotors/owners creating scores of threads but would that mean there's an abuse of power?

It doesn't make sense to allow someone who can—and probably has and will—make people leave the forum because of the negative trust that they place upon them. If theymos wanted to generate more money he could simply let the rubbish continue while he rakes in the ad revenue.

I don't think you understand my point. The irony in Thule's arguments is that they continue to contradict one another.

If he states that he did nothing wrong because it was not located in the rules then he should not be pursuing his arguments about any perceived scamming on Lauda's part, since scams are also against the rules.

Doing what? Sending merit?

Hmm, then what is valid point here for getting you highest points.
Every forum owner who respects people and answer to the members, but I am unable to see Theymos? how about Sathoshi Nakamoto? Is he is the owner of this forums? as in his profile I see Founder.
Why don't you give the similar points who are opposite to your gang?

 Is this is a Constructive post or is it helpful helpful to readers?

Lauda How many forums you maintained in your life and how many forums you were be a member?

No.

There is no gang and I don't have to give points to anyone.

Yes, yes it is. It tells the uninformed reader that OP is spewing nonsense, and destroys another failed argument with sarcasm.

That's not your concern.

Lauda deserve most trust points and merit on this board because he wants now to force project managers and ITO's to accept his own made rules which was not accepted by anyone or else he and his group is going to defame a legit project manager or even a whole ITO.

This DESERVE THE TITLE of "SCAMMER OF ALL TIME"


best of all Lauda demands to increase quality of posts and use this argument to abuse the trust feedback and in the same minute that asshole gives 50 merit to a post with a single word on it "Butthead"

You can clearly see how the asshole Lauda is concerned about the quality posts here

Tomorrow a big campaign will start against Lauda and all projects where he and his group are managers will be contacted and demanded for a clear statement of hiring such dumbasses who wants to force the whole community to accept their own made rules and more important their dominance

Glad i can deside on what posts i want to blow out my merrit.

No this wasnt all, this was max.

No, i wanted to test what the max was and i picked the ACE post.

Continue your cry song.

I would recommend everyone to leave them their honest feedback on their trust page as thats the most they care about.

Once the campaign starts tomorrow all trust profiles of them will be linked directly so people can add quickly their feedback telling them what they think about their actions.

Once their trust is destroyed (like they did against legit accounts) they are GONE !!!!

"Honest" feedback? :/

Wait, what?


So if your first threat was empty then why does this statement have any weight?

Even if there are thousands of negative trust feedbacks sent to Lauda, The Pharmacist, or I (or any of the accounts that you have an issue with) they would still be untrusted and thus rendered useless.

Let's see how many new Ad Campaigns you guys will get after that info campaign.
Nobody wants ad campaign managers who are out of control and hated by the community.

It's taking longer to publish it so i can collect all evidences and most important make sure that info will have an extremly high amount of reach so it will be noticed by the majority and will start
a big discussion about you guys in the crypto world

You want to dominate BCT and dictact your own made rules to the crypto world ?Let's see what the crypto community will reply to you faggot's plan

how many Ad Campaigns? all of them.. your trust is worthless just like your words and threats..

The community you refer to generally likes the people you are attacking, the ones who hate them are pajeets like you who farm accounts for sig payouts and bring no value..

you have no reach, the only reach you have is the reach-around you give to yourself whilst you hurl homophobic phrases at people who are 10x the person that you are.

Let's see.I will send them emails directly from my company so I doubt they will have any issues trusting me .
I won't talk about the reach.I prefer to show it.
I make fulltime online marketing since 20 years for myself but also for big companies  so i guess i know how to reach people.


But like i said.Let's not talk about it let's see what will come.

You guys really motivated me to the max to proof it to you

Then why are you giving negative feedback to people for giving merit?
If something applies to other people, it should apply to you too.


You're comparing splitting the bitcoin client in 2 with someone saying you have "scammy behaviour"?

Lets see.. Fire up those dodgy Gmail accounts.. no longer " Hello I am a Nigerian Prince and my father has died and left me seventy billion Dollars" now they will read " I am The great Thule and I have a bully please help me extend my reach and attack Lauda the great suppressor"

really? actions speak louder than words, all I have seen from you are threats, wasted HDD space and talk... you are a nothing you will achieve nothing... keep on at it THULE THE GREAT WITH THE GREAT REACH!!!

pathetic really.

Edit - and anyone who pays you for marketing is retarded as your spelling is worse than a 5 year old from Kazakhstan speaking English for the 1st time

You scammers will get what you deserve.It will be a personal satisfaction for me.

Would love to see your faces once it starts......priceless

Scamming isn't against the rules, just like account selling ::)

your rain of thunder?? from your heavy article? with your massive reach?

this is a Bitcoin forum, not some dodgy fiction book.. who are you the mighty Thor? give it up you Keyboard warrior shit poster and go back to tending the rice fields or whatever else you did before you came here to piss us all off.

Looks like someone needs to stop sniffing glue....

I guess those that were first on the forum get the highest privileges, I mean we clearly see from this first post how are those big guys manipulating the system they have created. Thing is you will always have some pyramid where ones with power are at the top and there is nothing we can do about it. You can chose to stay or leave that's it, they even added negative red feedback to OP, they give negative to to many people already. Its their show anyway we are some random people with who they are playing. Nobody is forcing you to stay.

Ok, Then why don't theymos reply here, it looks like you are operating both accounts. Can you provide me a moderator position for a week to check all those IP's.
Whenever some post about you, the same gang appears here, and they post same things.
Only for Atriz is the constructive post? Lol ive run couple forums long ago and been a member to several forums including SMF i believe.
If you are not a member of SMF, then you don't have experience so please quit your position.

If you are not a member to any webmaster forums, then how you got selected the position here?

Hope this explains clearly to you and let me know once you created an account in SMF forums.

Just:  :D.

Irrelevant. No gang of any kind is present.

Merit not given doesn't imply that someone does not consider a post constructive.

Just:  :D.

Its nice there is a list with all the people who got negativ trust from you guys.
They will will get a PM with the article link and links to your profiles.


You even got a reddit fan club :D LOL which are talking so bad words about you and your abuse i won't even share

I agree with you OP and all other wrongly tagged beggars, I just need Lauda to be a newbie with nobody to defend her for me to jump in.
I was going to just say OK to see if I could get a merit, but that's not the way people work here, I do believe there is a circle of some people here, I don't know how to be a part of this circle, I'd keep acting like a clown so that they'd take me when they are going out, this is called beggar penetration tactic.

(I'd like to use this opportunity to advertise my activity token a.k.a a total scam and my only domain name, if you really have the public and the traffic, *what? no no wait please.... uhh noo just let me say the domain name please.... UHHH).

* theymos walked in.

So Lauda is Theymos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1912107.0)

Hey, you notice how I'm never in the same thread as Bill Gates? ;)

The only thing that is redicolous imo is, that they merited themselfs this high amount of sMerit.  The problem is, that 50% of sMerit someone else may have deserved is lost. I mean why sending 50 sMerit, I have seen other users doing this, and they immediatly were flagged as fraudulent people (which may be true, I'm more about the principle here).

Nothing is lost. I wouldn't give random low quality-pretend posters the points anyways.

Difference: a) We are verifiably not alts. b) We are not randoms. Don't throw me in the same bag as some shitposters meriting each other.

Sure 50% can not be merited to someone else, so It the sMerits are lost. Its also stupid that a few users have the ability toweighten thei "like" of a post that much. I mean I only have 2 sMerit points I have to think 50 times if a post really deserves them and you just blew 50 sMerits away (Uh man I sound like a jealous bitch :)). But I guess that is nothing I can blame you for, It's more the implementation of this merit system.

That may be true.

There's another long-time member of bitcointalk who has a habit of beating dead, rotten horses and who is known to have alt accounts engage in flame wars and idiotic crusades--and we all know who I'm talking about, don't we.  I don't exactly hear Thule's deafening denials in response to my suggestion in another post, so now I'm really beginning to think this is a QS alt.

All these threads about merit, and it's the noob shitposters who are complaining loudest.  It's delicious to my eyes, I must say.

What a poor try of a scammer to discredit his enemies.
You are acting like a poor scammer.You can't win try to discredit him.
You bs post is not even worth to comment.
People from many ITO's know me and managements of most big exchanges and there comes a punk like you and tries to discredit me with your low quality imagination ?
You punk think i care about your small BCT world where you get peanuts ?

You choosed to make it to a personal vendetta and to motivate me to expose your group.

You choosed the route it goes .I gave you guys a fair warning and 24h to fix your scam at me

You had the luck to fuck the wrong guy and be so ignorant about it after being for so long unpunished for your actions

Watch out, there is some badass over there

Yes you care about Bitcoin world. What's an ITO?

Must:  :D.
relevant. gang is present.
Post this line in any popular forums and we watch it. ???Must:  :D.

Unfortunately, he has yet to receive his well deserved ban.

I guess an Initial Token Offering.

You're not exactly a entertaining little monkey.

Are you a big money? speak in proper language, Go to the SMF forums and post that thing.

I am saying again go to any forums and ask what is TRUST and REPUTATION for forums also how shall it will be useful.

You do not have any experience and posting all lies here. If you had experience in maintaining please prove it here.
Name of the Forums

Position status.

"You're black, kettle!", said the pot.

Where is this rain of thunder/bulldozer shit that was coming??

I may be black or white, whatever nothing to do with this thread.
Lauda should prove the experience to people, Lauda where is your experience please show.

Lauda, Are you the ALT of John Hooran and IVANA ? Who used to operate more than 20 accounts few years back with proxies.

No, Lauda is thermos. That's why they haven't been banned yet even after scamming for years and years! Can't you see, it's just one big conspiracy! Lauda is just using the forum to stay rich and giving out negative feedback to eliminate the competition!

/s

Your crying won't change anything.
True, Lauda may be "cleansing" the forums by detecting alts and negative trusting scammers but he seem to have gain a wrong sense of judgement in all this process which has led him to straight up misuse his DT2 powers without thinking of consequences from someone else's point of view.

There is no point in making threads like this, most likely you are at mistake here. Even if you aren't, nothing will change since you're against Lauda.

Take my example, he straight up negative trusted me by assuming my bitcoin accelerator service (now closed) is a scam, without any proofs, nothing!
He has ZERO proof to support his negative trust.
Even after i've shown proofs of how my accelerator was related to viaBTC, he won't remove the neg rather add another one for something totally unrelated and uncalled for.

All of DT2 are either his d**k suckers are too scared of him and his "gang" to take any actions against his reckless actions. I really hope someone from DT1 would take suitable actions/ ask Lauda for justification of his reckless negative trust which destroys accounts with years invested in them.

It really hurts me to be marked a scammer on this forums after investing so many of years of being honest and never scamming/stealing from anyone.

Nope. Also: Sexist.

Wrong. Plenty of proof and you were trust farming anyway. Nothing further needs discussing.

I am not even talking about trust farming
I am talking about you questioning my legit transaction accelerator.
I can't even understand you anymore, how does it feel to get into pointless arguments online everyday? Get some peace, get some life Lauda.
Also trust farming? You just totally misinterpreted my wrongly (my mistake) spelled words. What i meant to say was only wasn't trust farming but gaining confidence of people and gaining praises which is what a lot of us want anyways.

Yes.

As *legit* as Quickseller's escrow service.

You are like OP, and tell me to get a life. Is this supposed to be a bad joke? Take a good look in the mirror.

Also know as: Trust farming.

So you know John and IVANA ? Yes If LAUDA wants to be rich then should be donein positive method, NOW INDIA BANNED BITCOIN  ;D  ;D ;D  ;D ;D  ;D ;D  ;D ;D  ;D

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2862164.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2826721.0

I already caught here a campaign manager belongs to your gang, but still not yet written about that thing. Anyway is THERMOS is your THEYMOS?

You kidding me. you tagged me with Negative trust I will not post any single word. I just used your reply as an answer. btw I gave you same gift.

Oh my God. You've been tagged because of this? Really I feel sorry for you bro. Took a lot to get to Legendary and now your account is ruined because of merit shit...

Lol it's like the old days when dumbasses would give their alts trust. Like it meant anything at all to see some random newb say on some other random new "I trust this guy. He is a good man and helped me in my time of need." with no reference. Although the difference now is that accounts actually need merit, so there's more of a want to use it on your alts I guess. Oh well. I guess you guys got what you deserved.

Don't cheat the system and blame other people when you got caught.

Just befor the merit system was launched I saw a member expressing his enthousiasm about reaching the Sr Member status very soon. It was a normal post done within a thread that handled the ranking system. actmyname tagged him red for that post. The latter's only motive was to hurt the member. Those mobsters really are a menace to many honest and fair users and to the forum as a whole.

Snipped the quote because it is completely irrelevant to your post.

So, hey. I remember that user.

This post, right?

Yeah, that's a pointless post. What does it add to the thread?

And the user is still a spammer. Their posts do not add anything to the threads they reply to. Non-constructive posts should be deleted. If you consistently post those kinds of posts, then your account should henceforth be deleted.

Hey cuntsmouth hows it going today?

you and Thule seemed to of slowed down on the attacks against Lauda and "her team"

The op and the above poster made correct, when you given negative trust for someone merit system then you should consider to do same thing for Lauda.

It's non constructive and lauda posts is constructive for you. Whenever a post appears against Lauda the same gang appears. Is this is hijacking threads?

What is the reason for becoming a DT member here @actmyname

How much you have experience in maintaining forums? please show me the proof of past experience.

Right... because Lauda totally has a reason to farm merit. ::)

In my opinion, yes: Lauda has some unconstructive posts. However, unlike many spammers, there are actual constructive posts that balance it out. ???

What's the reason? To curb scams, spam, and other shady activity.

I'm not a moderator so I don't 'maintain forums'. I don't see how experience is relevant.

Does Lauda is god? and looks like the forum is owned by that person. There is no theymos or Nakamoto.

Then please give negative trust to lauda as you did to the above poster.
When you don't experience you shouldn't do such things, give it to someone who can do better than you and Lauda.

If you are not a moderator, then please learn from SMF forums, they have free tutorials.

I have to agree with the gang thing. Everytime someone posts about Lauda the same guys come to defend her/him/it.

Boogety-garble-goo.  Argle fargle foo?

This is what you sound like to me, in a Charlie Brown kind of way when the teacher is yapping at him.  It's you people that the merit system was designed to exterminate, or at least frustrate and dissuade from the big-'ol rank up.  If you're grammar is this atrocious, you really ought not be posting in the main section.  And ideally you'd be on trial for attempted murder of the English language.  

It's tough getting merit points when you suck, isn't it?
Well, what do you want?  There's only a small group of members here who get/got really annoyed by all the shitposters who don't belong here.  Meta and reputation are the best sections by far, and you can expect the "gang" to post here frequently.

I have never seen Lauda at any of the god parties.

Vod is the one true BTC god.  You are wasting your time if you pray to others.  :/

Hail Vod!

          
Ohh, A reputation can be given for a post when it is useful for others, but the topic starter quoted that the post wasn't useful and both are exchanging to each other and you same people won't believe the fact.

Here is a new story about Lauda, The forum would probably be a slightly better place without Lauda's nonsense
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2879838.0
let me know how many forums you belong? I haven't seen the staff here taking actions on Lauda.

Everyone should compensated in the same manner either the owner or a member.
So you already met Lauda? let me know which country he belongs to?
If you are a BTC GOD then why are you asking for donation?

Simply because you are the one who does not deserve support? :-\ Give it a bit of time and think over what you have done and why you got negged by DT. Being a hot-head or a stubborn person will never help here. If you have been associated with ANN shill bumping then you are calling your own demise. There are rules against this and even if mods are sometimes not able to take care of all the illegal bumpers DT tries to tag them to get the accounts marked.

Its pretty simple - but in a hot-head (read butthurt) situation its sometimes tough to get the correct conclusion because every other person I see here is of the "who does not like free money" squad. :P

First I did not do anything. I had no clue what bumping thread meant, I realized this recquired to comment lots of times with alt coins which I do not have (You can see in the evidence, the 2 messages I sent to the guy who was offering the service. Second, even if I was willing to bump thread, they are allowed to do once a day. I was angry when I got tagged, but now I just don't give a fuck because I can keep using the forum anyway. I was talking about the gang defending Lauda everytime like she/he/it is always right. It's funny how the Reputation section has so many threads complaining about Lauda doing trust farming. I do not see threads for other DT members often (exception for ThePharmacist and Actyname last weeks). Just saying... If one person complains about you, this person might be wrong. But when 1000 people complain about you...

The number of people that I have left a negative rating for (or better put, *number of users*) is now well over 1000. Therefore, all those slanderous butthurt threads are meaningless.

All gods ask for money.  Look at the collection plate in church.

You know what the cost is to run fiber for heaven for internet access?   :o

The victory of bitcoin was found by possibility, believing that it will become successful because of the uniqueness idea that it has. Meaning every opportunity of the community here is originally created by possibility and majority knows about it that is why investors are incourage to become risk takers because of it and they become successful.

Now if there is a possibility that new rank would be implemented soon, wouldn't be great if you are one of the first batch being promoted? I'm not accusing anybody here I'm just telling the possibility.  ;)

LOL God ask money, are you dreaming? Did you ever seen God? Collection plate was for the priest and workers in the church, but not for the God.
Can you show me proof of your God asking money in church?

I have nothing to do with the cost,  internet or servers. I used to own a server in the past, but not now.

Dude, what do you think all those priests and workers in the church DO with the money they get?

They send it to me, obviously. 

They are scammers who don't know how to work hard, especially saying I am priest and praying for your sake, please donate some money, but why does these priests won't pray to god for money?

Have you seen your God in Church and did you taken any photo of your God?

Also you haven't mentioned where you met Lauda in the past?

I'll speak just about the rank, I guess I dont need any more merit.   Its just a nice way for someone to do a thumbs up and I will repeat that kind of post because somebody liked it?     I guess I can also pass some more of it to others I read and appreciate.  

The people who really do need it are the lowest ranks, so I try to remember to give any good posts I see there a +1 at least if not more.   I'd have to agree its just a loose system though it matters more to some of the newest members.

This thread became offtopic in a awkward way :o

For some reason I found this thread, and it was not like the initial topic was very great in the first place....   so yeah, awkward meets awkward.   :D

How does the merit system work? I have tried to search the whole forum and got this thread. Thanks very much  :-* :-* :-*

try harder - look in meta

Read my opening post. That's how the merit system works around here.  :D

Since when did anecdotal evidence support an accurate theory about system wide application?  Probably you need a bit more evidence if you would like to accurately claim that some cases, even if true, are reflective of a system wide application.

Dude! Everybody else is getting tagged red for exactly the same. What kind of science are those taggers professing? And what science do you profess when two same results are in one case accepted as evidence and in the other case denied?  ::)

Wow.  Just wow.  Leaving negative trust for others and admitting to engaging in the exact same behavior.  I am embarrassed for anyone that still respects Lauda at this point.

I spy with my little eye:

https://i.imgur.com/X1JbRuz.png

1:1 What you and naypalm did, the difference being that he transferred more points.  ;)

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Oh wait, he maxed it out at 50!
https://i.imgur.com/hldDylL.png

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Fixed the sneaky out-of-context smear attempt. No wonder she left. :)

There has been no love in that shack for a very long time.

Well, Sending someone a merit is someone's personal choice. You can't force someone to give it nor that someone can force you to give a merit. Infact i can give you one right now yet i choose not to.
That does change the situation? Obviously not. There is no point in hitting lauda or that atriz for a freedom that the system gives to its user. If you are really butt hurt then I suggest to instead improve. Fight back in a more professional  way

Regards,

But why do people are people that are selling them getting tagged with negative trust then? ;) Here is a kind of double standard taking place.

Selling is not allowed. There is no double standard.

There is a double standard. Both in trust and in merit. Don't be so hypocritical and stop lying. Things that you and your clique engage in are tolerated while the exact same actions by others are punished with red trust. Such as for instance the swapping of high amounts of merit points.

I thought that selling of merit was only disallowed for sources.   

Good point. I don't think that was clarified. Therefore, you can safely assume that it applies to everyone (buying merit is just outright dishonest, and very similar to buying trust).

I thought that initially Theymos had written something in the OP of the merit announcement thread about merit sources being prohibited from selling merit, but he seems to have reworded it and removed such language, but i am sure that he said it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28856522#msg28856522

Oh I found this language in the merit page for merit sources:

>>>>>>You are a merit source. The next XXX merit you spend will come from your source rather than your sMerit balance. Merit spent from your source will come back in 30 days. Unused source merit is wasted. It is not allowed for merit sources to sell their merit.<<<<<<


I think that the closest language regarding regular members trading merits was this:


From this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg29540717#msg29540717

Then you must seen somewhere to Lauda.
Back to on topic

Everyone will spy with their eyes, if cant they use magnifier lens, BTW can i send merit points to someone and receive them back?

But I don't need them since it is not useful for me.

Lauda/aTriz, your boy just got caught plagiarizing. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2973511.0

Therefore, I conclude that selling of merit is not illegal right? Since it is just a form of trading which theymos already have stated that it should not be an issue? Trading merit is pretty obvious tho. Unlike selling it in which it stays between the two persons involved. Good point there that if a certain user sells its merit then it isn't illegal? Correct me if im wrong then that certain user should not be tagged?

When I wrote that statement, I was attempting to respond to Lauda's assertion that selling/trading merit was not clear from the forum rules.  Further, in the past month, I had been a little bit concerned that some members were being tagged with Red trust in terms of accusations of selling/trading/soliciting merit even though the rules were not clear regarding that conduct.

So, yeah, I attempted to point out a couple of statements by Theymos regarding trading/ selling or soliciting merit. 

I think that regarding merit sources, the rule is fairly clear that merit sources are prohibited to engage in any kind of behavior to sell or trade merit or to solicit such. 

However, regarding regular members, it seems that technically it is not against the forum rules to sell/trade merit; however, it still would not prohibit other members from giving negative trust to regular members who are engaging in such selling/trading or even soliciting of merit (maybe if soliciting rises to the level of "excessive begging?"). 

So personally, I believe that for regular members it still probably would not be a good idea to sell or trade merit or to attempt to do so through soliciting, even though technically it does not appear to be against any specific merit rule - but it could still attract negative trust because it seems like a dubious kind of behavior....

I think that Theymos's is specific comment about NOT focusing on merit trading/selling of regular members being a "rounding error" is valid too, because the initially distributed merit is going to run out, and therefore the initial distribution of merit does not add up to a lot of merit that would end up being abused through selling/trading. 

Therefore, it seems that it would be a kind of judgement call regarding how much selling/trading of merit behavior would justify giving negative trust.

Even if I do agree that selling or trading of merit is a complete dishonest. If the rules were not clear or would say that this certain act is not illegal then yeah probably giving a negative trust who is doing so is really a complete judgement call.

Tho this system was just released and it still has any loop holes that can be abused by anyone. I believe that there will be a lot of changes especially to this kind of issue which has always been issue for trust ratings.

'Illegal'  would not be the case as its just a minor issue on the forum, I can see how they might count it as a negative generally though.      Merit to me is like a bookmark or a like on facebook, not a big deal just a nice feature.   Its only at the low ranks its literally going to determine gaining a higher rank, to weed out poor use of forum.   So in that context, enabling a spammer would still be really bad and merit would show evidence of that perhaps

According to the rules it should be Tagged, but it wasn't and the staff even aware of it. did you read this thread where this person got tagged for merit system.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2983886.0

The dude was doing merit abuse which AFAIK isnt against the rules yet but is 100% taggable by a DT member and that's what happened

So are you sure the guy is abusing merit system? If yes or not also the topic names would have tagged, but it wasn't till today.
BTW I haven't asked this thing to you anyway thanks for answering to questions, soon the public will know the real truth.

Another proffesional spender http://a.radikal.ru/a17/1802/79/ca9b851563c1.jpg
Account connected Xynerise - 1250855 and DannyHamilton - 60820 - selling smerits.
That guy rewarded me "Merit farming (something intended to be EARNED) is a dishonest way to acquire it. Clearly this user is not trustworthy" without reference - good job  ;D

Betwixt your own cheeks
You extract an argument
Yet, their posts are good.

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Your proof does fall short of a framework
So go browse some more, that's your homework
Worry not little runt
And quit being a cunt
Least Xynerise can post 'bout the network

We should not waste time on it. There on screen we can see whats happened for 5 mins. I'm tired of trying to prove everybody legendary about their negative moves against newbies.

I tire of your crazed indignancy
These efforts in vain—a futility
Your words make no sense
Such a foolish offense
Won't you just stop this crass hostility?

That definitely has to be Eminem.
These rhymes are eminent.  :o /s

Reminded me more of this (https://youtu.be/Dn7GkeS3lhI).