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Title: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: MeSarah on July 12, 2011, 09:28:59 PM
The forum post: Worlds First Bitcoin Tattoo, is in violation of the law. I have reported at least one image to the admins with no action taken. Apparently your not allowed to cuss on this forum but you can show naked bodies or body parts. Its a strange form of ethics. If you like porn good for you. But keep it off this forum. Porn is a major vector for viruses.

Take action to corrects this problem by requiring people to verifiy their age or remove the offending images or I will be forced to report this site for violations of the law. You have 72 hours to take action. If you want to expose yourself to $50,000 fine and/or 6 months in jail its your choice. It should be noted that the posters might be just as liable as the forum operators.

Child Online Protection Act, 47 U.S.C. § 231
Internet Safety & Child Protecton Act of 2005, S. 1507



Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: imperi on July 12, 2011, 09:30:16 PM
The forum post: Worlds First Bitcoin Tattoo, is in violation of the law. I have reported at least one image to the admins with no action taken. Apparently your not allowed to cuss on this forum but you can show naked bodies or body parts. Its a strange form of ethics. If you like porn good for you. But keep it off this forum. Porn is a major vector for viruses.

Take action to corrects this problem by requiring people to verifiy their age or remove the offending images or I will be forced to report this site for violations of the law. You have 72 hours to take action. If you want to expose yourself to $50,000 fine and/or 6 months in jail its your choice. It should be noted that the posters might be just as liable as the forum operators.

Child Online Protection Act, 47 U.S.C. § 231
Internet Safety & Child Protecton Act of 2005, S. 1507



I see you're fishing to get banned...


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: SgtSpike on July 12, 2011, 09:32:22 PM
The forum post: Worlds First Bitcoin Tattoo, is in violation of the law. I have reported at least one image to the admins with no action taken. Apparently your not allowed to cuss on this forum but you can show naked bodies or body parts. Its a strange form of ethics. If you like porn good for you. But keep it off this forum. Porn is a major vector for viruses.

Take action to corrects this problem by requiring people to verifiy their age or remove the offending images or I will be forced to report this site for violations of the law. You have 72 hours to take action. If you want to expose yourself to $50,000 fine and/or 6 months in jail its your choice. It should be noted that the posters might be just as liable as the forum operators.

Child Online Protection Act, 47 U.S.C. § 231
Internet Safety & Child Protecton Act of 2005, S. 1507



I see you're fishing to get banned...
Banned or not, they're completely right about US law and COPPA.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: MaGNeT on July 12, 2011, 09:32:55 PM
The forum post: Worlds First Bitcoin Tattoo, is in violation of the law. I have reported at least one image to the admins with no action taken. Apparently your not allowed to cuss on this forum but you can show naked bodies or body parts. Its a strange form of ethics. If you like porn good for you. But keep it off this forum. Porn is a major vector for viruses.

Take action to corrects this problem by requiring people to verifiy their age or remove the offending images or I will be forced to report this site for violations of the law. You have 72 hours to take action. If you want to expose yourself to $50,000 fine and/or 6 months in jail its your choice. It should be noted that the posters might be just as liable as the forum operators.

Child Online Protection Act, 47 U.S.C. § 231
Internet Safety & Child Protecton Act of 2005, S. 1507



I guess you are one of the few who were born with their clothes on...


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: imperi on July 12, 2011, 09:33:17 PM
The forum post: Worlds First Bitcoin Tattoo, is in violation of the law. I have reported at least one image to the admins with no action taken. Apparently your not allowed to cuss on this forum but you can show naked bodies or body parts. Its a strange form of ethics. If you like porn good for you. But keep it off this forum. Porn is a major vector for viruses.

Take action to corrects this problem by requiring people to verifiy their age or remove the offending images or I will be forced to report this site for violations of the law. You have 72 hours to take action. If you want to expose yourself to $50,000 fine and/or 6 months in jail its your choice. It should be noted that the posters might be just as liable as the forum operators.

Child Online Protection Act, 47 U.S.C. § 231
Internet Safety & Child Protecton Act of 2005, S. 1507



I see you're fishing to get banned...
Banned or not, they're completely right about US law and COPPA.

Not really. There is no "lascivious display of genitalia", as is in the law, so it doesn't matter anyways.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Chick on July 12, 2011, 09:33:32 PM
Can we please host this forum in Sweden?


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: N12 on July 12, 2011, 09:33:52 PM
Does this look like child porn to you?

http://cryptocommodity.org/tats/2sm.jpg

And yes, personally, I prefer half-naked women with Bitcoin tattoos rather than forum trolls and fascists.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Chick on July 12, 2011, 09:35:45 PM
This law is to protect children under 13, I believe.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: CurbsideProphet on July 12, 2011, 09:36:23 PM
Take action to corrects this problem by requiring people to verifiy their age or remove the offending images or I will be forced to report this site for violations of the law. You have 72 hours to take action. If you want to expose yourself to $50,000 fine and/or 6 months in jail its your choice.

Yeah I'm sure the authorities will get right on this.  I'm sure they have nothing better to do than prosecute someone for posting a few pics of a consenting adult on a forum.  


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: imperi on July 12, 2011, 09:36:28 PM
This law is to protect children under 13, I believe.

Well she's clearly 8 or 9 in the pic, can't you tell?


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Chick on July 12, 2011, 09:38:25 PM
This law is to protect children under 13, I believe.

Well she's clearly 8 or 9 in the pic, can't you tell?

Holy crap! You're right! Lets not alert the feds about this. We definitely need more media on Bitcoin!


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: MaGNeT on July 12, 2011, 09:41:05 PM
Nudity on the internet? Oh noes! :o We have to stop it! This was the first I ever saw so I think we can still stop it!


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: error on July 12, 2011, 09:41:17 PM
The forum post: Worlds First Bitcoin Tattoo, is in violation of the law. I have reported at least one image to the admins with no action taken. Apparently your not allowed to cuss on this forum but you can show naked bodies or body parts. Its a strange form of ethics. If you like porn good for you. But keep it off this forum. Porn is a major vector for viruses.

Take action to corrects this problem by requiring people to verifiy their age or remove the offending images or I will be forced to report this site for violations of the law. You have 72 hours to take action. If you want to expose yourself to $50,000 fine and/or 6 months in jail its your choice. It should be noted that the posters might be just as liable as the forum operators.

Child Online Protection Act, 47 U.S.C. § 231
Internet Safety & Child Protecton Act of 2005, S. 1507

You will be "forced" to get your friends to point their guns at us? I don't know what's going on in your head, but I suggest you seek professional help.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: proudhon on July 12, 2011, 09:42:07 PM
MeSerah is probably not referring to the tattoo pictures.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Nescio on July 12, 2011, 09:43:21 PM
Heh, I think there is a higher concentration of feds that are already reading this forum than most others :) And uh, she's fat! (/me ducks) ;D


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: XIU on July 12, 2011, 09:43:38 PM
MeSerah is probably not referring to the tattoo pictures.

The tattoo picture is from the thread that is mentioned (Worlds first tattoo)


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: imperi on July 12, 2011, 09:44:15 PM
She might even be 6 or 7. This is serious guys.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: N12 on July 12, 2011, 09:46:52 PM
MeSerah is probably not referring to the tattoo pictures.
Then what the hell is he (she) talking about? Or is he suggesting that there is a second Bitcoin tattoo on the same spot, but on a child? I don’t know about you, but this doesn’t look like a child’s pussy to me:

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3664/photo9yn.jpg

Also, this thread needs more tits:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/538/photo10bg.jpg


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Atom on July 12, 2011, 09:47:49 PM
None of the images meet the standards for the statute you're citing...

But even if it did, whats up with the very aggressive approach?  You don't seem like you're brand new to the community, so why take this hardline approach and make a big deal out of it instead of just clicking the "report to moderator" button like everybody else does when they think something is inappropriate?

Really confused by the whole demeanor of this post - Do you not like the community as a whole, and this is your principled stand?  Against who?


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: LeFBI on July 12, 2011, 09:47:55 PM
MeSarah: U jelly? :-/

What exactly is wrong with the pictures in this thread? It's not porn.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: proudhon on July 12, 2011, 09:49:42 PM
MeSerah is probably not referring to the tattoo pictures.

The tattoo picture is from the thread that is mentioned (Worlds first tattoo)

I know.  There were other pictures posted in the thread that weren't of the tattoo person, and I think it's at least one of those pictures that MeSerah is concerned about.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Atom on July 12, 2011, 09:54:29 PM
The OP's "Recent Posts" are worth taking a jog through if you want some perspective....

This seems to be the only post they made in the tatoo thread...

I dont think thats a real tatoo. I dont see any swelling or scabbing and it looks different in the two ink'd images. If it is real, we have a Darwin Award winner!! Stupid is as stupid does.

the horror


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Serge on July 12, 2011, 09:54:37 PM
where is the tubgirl when you need one


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Serge on July 12, 2011, 09:57:01 PM
OP please go after all big major free porn tube sites for posting hardcore porn videos on the internet and not validating age of their visitors

you may start your search in google with keyword "porn"

thanks, much appreciated!


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: ex0420 on July 12, 2011, 10:00:55 PM
Stop being jelly. It makes you look like a small child. She's hot and 200 BTC richer, good for her. No need to get all bitchy about it. :)


Also PORN ON MY INTERNET? NO. FUCKING. WAY...


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Atom on July 12, 2011, 10:01:17 PM
OP please go after all big major free porn tube sites for posting hardcore porn videos on the internet and not validating age of their visitors

you may start your search in google with keyword "porn"

thanks, much appreciated!

Holy shit!  Watch out anyone who may follow this advice, I learned the hard way that you'll find porn doing this!



Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: proudhon on July 12, 2011, 10:02:38 PM
Well, whether MeSerah was trolling or not, it looks like a post containing several nude pictures was removed from the thread.  One of those pictures, as I recall, appeared to be of young looking girl.  My guess is that's what MeSerah was referring to.  Again, whether trolling or not, her complaint was apparently taken seriously.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: MeSarah on July 12, 2011, 10:04:55 PM
Im glad y'all took time to read the laws.

(1) Prohibited conduct
Whoever knowingly and with knowledge of the character of the
material, in interstate or foreign commerce by means of the World
Wide Web, makes any communication for commercial purposes that is
available to any minor and that includes any material that is
harmful to minors shall be fined not more than $50,000,
imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both.

(3) Civil penalty
In addition to the penalties under paragraphs (1) and (2),
whoever violates paragraph (1) shall be subject to a civil
penalty of not more than $50,000 for each violation. For purposes
of this paragraph, each day of violation shall constitute a
separate violation.

(B) Engaged in the business
The term "engaged in the business" means that the person who
makes a communication, or offers to make a communication, by
means of the World Wide Web, that includes any material that is
harmful to minors, devotes time, attention, or labor to such
activities, as a regular course of such person's trade or
business, with the objective of earning a profit as a result of
such activities (although it is not necessary that the person
make a profit or that the making or offering to make such
communications be the person's sole or principal business or
source of income). A person may be considered to be engaged in
the business of making, by means of the World Wide Web,
communications for commercial purposes that include material
that is harmful to minors, only if the person knowingly causes
the material that is harmful to minors to be posted on the
World Wide Web or knowingly solicits such material to be posted
on the World Wide Web.

(6) Material that is harmful to minors
The term "material that is harmful to minors" means any
communication, picture, image, graphic image file, article,
recording, writing, or other matter of any kind that is obscene
or that -
(A) the average person, applying contemporary community
standards, would find, taking the material as a whole and with
respect to minors, is designed to appeal to, or is designed to
pander to, the prurient interest;
(B) depicts, describes, or represents, in a manner patently
offensive with respect to minors, an actual or simulated sexual
act or sexual contact, an actual or simulated normal or
perverted sexual act, or a lewd exhibition of the genitals or
post-pubescent female breast


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: error on July 12, 2011, 10:06:14 PM
Im glad y'all took time to read the laws.

(1) Prohibited conduct
Whoever knowingly and with knowledge of the character of the
material, in interstate or foreign commerce by means of the World
Wide Web, makes any communication for commercial purposes that is
available to any minor and that includes any material that is
harmful to minors shall be fined not more than $50,000,
imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both.

(3) Civil penalty
In addition to the penalties under paragraphs (1) and (2),
whoever violates paragraph (1) shall be subject to a civil
penalty of not more than $50,000 for each violation. For purposes
of this paragraph, each day of violation shall constitute a
separate violation.

(B) Engaged in the business
The term "engaged in the business" means that the person who
makes a communication, or offers to make a communication, by
means of the World Wide Web, that includes any material that is
harmful to minors, devotes time, attention, or labor to such
activities, as a regular course of such person's trade or
business, with the objective of earning a profit as a result of
such activities (although it is not necessary that the person
make a profit or that the making or offering to make such
communications be the person's sole or principal business or
source of income). A person may be considered to be engaged in
the business of making, by means of the World Wide Web,
communications for commercial purposes that include material
that is harmful to minors, only if the person knowingly causes
the material that is harmful to minors to be posted on the
World Wide Web or knowingly solicits such material to be posted
on the World Wide Web.

(6) Material that is harmful to minors
The term "material that is harmful to minors" means any
communication, picture, image, graphic image file, article,
recording, writing, or other matter of any kind that is obscene
or that -
(A) the average person, applying contemporary community
standards, would find, taking the material as a whole and with
respect to minors, is designed to appeal to, or is designed to
pander to, the prurient interest;
(B) depicts, describes, or represents, in a manner patently
offensive with respect to minors, an actual or simulated sexual
act or sexual contact, an actual or simulated normal or
perverted sexual act, or a lewd exhibition of the genitals or
post-pubescent female breast

None of this is relevant to the Bitcoin forum since the forum does not sell porn.

Again, why are you threatening to have us shot?


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: TiagoTiago on July 12, 2011, 10:06:38 PM
If any kid gets harmed for seeing a pic on the Internet, the parents should be arrested for neglecting to properly care for the life they choose to create.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Serge on July 12, 2011, 10:08:57 PM
minors should not be allowed on this board!  (sorry Atlas)


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Atom on July 12, 2011, 10:13:37 PM
Im glad y'all took time to read the laws.

(1) Prohibited conduct
Whoever knowingly and with knowledge of the character of the
material, in interstate or foreign commerce by means of the World
Wide Web, makes any communication for commercial purposes that is
available to any minor and that includes any material that is
harmful to minors shall be fined not more than $50,000,
imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both.

(3) Civil penalty
In addition to the penalties under paragraphs (1) and (2),
whoever violates paragraph (1) shall be subject to a civil
penalty of not more than $50,000 for each violation. For purposes
of this paragraph, each day of violation shall constitute a
separate violation.

(B) Engaged in the business
The term "engaged in the business" means that the person who
makes a communication, or offers to make a communication, by
means of the World Wide Web, that includes any material that is
harmful to minors, devotes time, attention, or labor to such
activities, as a regular course of such person's trade or
business, with the objective of earning a profit as a result of
such activities
(although it is not necessary that the person
make a profit or that the making or offering to make such
communications be the person's sole or principal business or
source of income). A person may be considered to be engaged in
the business of making, by means of the World Wide Web,
communications for commercial purposes that include material
that is harmful to minors, only if the person knowingly causes
the material that is harmful to minors to be posted on the
World Wide Web or knowingly solicits such material to be posted
on the World Wide Web.

(6) Material that is harmful to minors
The term "material that is harmful to minors" means any
communication, picture, image, graphic image file, article,
recording, writing, or other matter of any kind that is obscene
or that -
(A) the average person, applying contemporary community
standards, would find, taking the material as a whole and with
respect to minors, is designed to appeal to, or is designed to
pander to, the prurient interest;
(B) depicts, describes, or represents, in a manner patently
offensive with respect to minors, an actual or simulated sexual
act or sexual contact, an actual or simulated normal or
perverted sexual act, or a lewd exhibition of the genitals or
post-pubescent female breast

Can you explain to me how you rationalize your complaint with the fact that Bitcoin.org forums don't sell anything, and nobody is conducting business or attempting to gain profit by the "communications" you have a problem with?   Seems like you skipped the whole "this doesn't even apply to you guys" part of the monetary/judicial threat.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Serge on July 12, 2011, 10:16:30 PM
ATT internet police: please do something about this site http://www.pornhub.com/  and their network of other sites linked from top horizontal menu.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: LeFBI on July 12, 2011, 10:18:21 PM
MeSarah: nice copy&paste. did you read it?

The images in the thread are still not porn. Since when is a women in a bikini or a covered nipple "actual or simulated sexual act or sexual contact, an actual or simulated normal or perverted sexual act, or a lewd exhibition of the genitals" ?

Janet Jackson exposed her nipple piercing live on television,millions of people did see it.....all damaged for live. Oh look, a nipple...we all gonna die! Any Britney Spears or Christina Aguilera video on youtube is more perverted than any picture in the tattoo thread.

Keep trollin'


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: BitcoinPorn on July 12, 2011, 10:18:55 PM
 >:(


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Serge on July 12, 2011, 10:26:33 PM
MeSarah, please kindly search in google images "TubGirl", make sure you have no miners around your computer monitor at that time of querying the search. what you about to see cannot be unseen.
That image violates world peace!


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: GeniuSxBoY on July 12, 2011, 11:03:20 PM
I worry for MeSarah. If she can't handle pixels on a screen, how does she handle reflections in the bathroom?!


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: theymos on July 12, 2011, 11:26:41 PM
Regardless of any laws, potentially-NSFW images should never be embedded on the forum.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Atom on July 12, 2011, 11:31:35 PM
Regardless of any laws, potentially-NSFW images should never be embedded on the forum.

Even if the thread is literally about people with Bitcoin tattoos?


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: theymos on July 12, 2011, 11:32:29 PM
Even if the thread is literally about people with Bitcoin tattoos?

Yes. No embedded NSFW images, even with a disclaimer. NSFW links are OK if they have a disclaimer.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Atom on July 12, 2011, 11:33:45 PM
Fair enough,
Clarity!


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: flyswatta on July 12, 2011, 11:51:18 PM
NSFW links are OK if they have a disclaimer.

Agreed.  Otherwise, where was the porn OP was talking about?  


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: enmaku on July 12, 2011, 11:57:30 PM
Code:
Domain ID:D153621148-LROR
Domain Name:BITCOIN.ORG
Registrant ID:02e87e389a273cab
Registrant Name:Louhi  Net Oy
Registrant Organization:Louhi Net Oy
Registrant Street1:Italahdenkatu 22 A
Registrant City:Helsinki
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code:00210
Registrant Country:FI

Am I wrong in thinking it'd be more appropriate to ask what the pornography laws in Finland are like?

Internet != America.

Just saying.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Atom on July 13, 2011, 12:00:12 AM
Code:
Domain ID:D153621148-LROR
Domain Name:BITCOIN.ORG
Registrant ID:02e87e389a273cab
Registrant Name:Louhi  Net Oy
Registrant Organization:Louhi Net Oy
Registrant Street1:Italahdenkatu 22 A
Registrant City:Helsinki
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code:00210
Registrant Country:FI

Am I wrong in thinking it'd be more appropriate to ask what the pornography laws in Finland are like?

Internet != America.

Just saying.

You say it like the US federal government cares if they break the rules.  I do agree with the OP on that, it's in our best interest not to give them a reason.  We still need to time build the community before its time.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: MsBitcoin on July 13, 2011, 01:17:06 AM
sry bout the embedded nsfw images...

just to note nsfw != criminal


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: twobits on July 13, 2011, 01:31:48 AM
Im glad y'all took time to read the laws.

(1) Prohibited conduct
Whoever knowingly and with knowledge of the character of the
material, in interstate or foreign commerce by means of the World
Wide Web, makes any communication for commercial purposes that is
available to any minor and that includes any material that is
harmful to minors shall be fined not more than $50,000,
imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both.

(3) Civil penalty
In addition to the penalties under paragraphs (1) and (2),
whoever violates paragraph (1) shall be subject to a civil
penalty of not more than $50,000 for each violation. For purposes
of this paragraph, each day of violation shall constitute a
separate violation.

(B) Engaged in the business
The term "engaged in the business" means that the person who
makes a communication, or offers to make a communication, by
means of the World Wide Web, that includes any material that is
harmful to minors, devotes time, attention, or labor to such
activities, as a regular course of such person's trade or
business, with the objective of earning a profit as a result of
such activities (although it is not necessary that the person
make a profit or that the making or offering to make such
communications be the person's sole or principal business or
source of income). A person may be considered to be engaged in
the business of making, by means of the World Wide Web,
communications for commercial purposes that include material
that is harmful to minors, only if the person knowingly causes
the material that is harmful to minors to be posted on the
World Wide Web or knowingly solicits such material to be posted
on the World Wide Web.

(6) Material that is harmful to minors
The term "material that is harmful to minors" means any
communication, picture, image, graphic image file, article,
recording, writing, or other matter of any kind that is obscene
or that -
(A) the average person, applying contemporary community
standards, would find, taking the material as a whole and with
respect to minors, is designed to appeal to, or is designed to
pander to, the prurient interest;
(B) depicts, describes, or represents, in a manner patently
offensive with respect to minors, an actual or simulated sexual
act or sexual contact, an actual or simulated normal or
perverted sexual act, or a lewd exhibition of the genitals or
post-pubescent female breast


Ok, read it,  does not apply to this site.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Anonymous on July 13, 2011, 01:36:47 AM
Nudity !=porn

I guess we should all be taken to jail for exposing our children to vaginas at birth....

Maybe its better to throw rocks at women who show their ankles ?


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: twobits on July 13, 2011, 01:37:54 AM
Code:
Domain ID:D153621148-LROR
Domain Name:BITCOIN.ORG
Registrant ID:02e87e389a273cab
Registrant Name:Louhi  Net Oy
Registrant Organization:Louhi Net Oy
Registrant Street1:Italahdenkatu 22 A
Registrant City:Helsinki
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code:00210
Registrant Country:FI

Am I wrong in thinking it'd be more appropriate to ask what the pornography laws in Finland are like?

Internet != America.

Just saying.

Thats a point to consider,  but since it seems the server is in the USA that would give them more then enough to claim jurisdiction.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Nescio on July 14, 2011, 12:17:21 AM
.. I learned the hard way ..

I see what you did there. ;)


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: wumpus on July 14, 2011, 05:27:21 AM
Nudity !=porn

I guess we should all be taken to jail for exposing our children to vaginas at birth....

Maybe its better to throw rocks at women who show their ankles ?
+1, enough with the puritanism.

We cannot cater to all the weird rules that countries have about showing human bodies, otherwise we'd have to ban anyone that shows a picture of a woman without her face covered in public.

Maybe we better should, before the Iranian govt takes action on us!


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: GideonGono on July 14, 2011, 09:32:34 AM
The forum post: Worlds First Bitcoin Tattoo, is in violation of the law. I have reported at least one image to the admins with no action taken. Apparently your not allowed to cuss on this forum but you can show naked bodies or body parts. Its a strange form of ethics. If you like porn good for you. But keep it off this forum. Porn is a major vector for viruses.

Take action to corrects this problem by requiring people to verifiy their age or remove the offending images or I will be forced to report this site for violations of the law. You have 72 hours to take action. If you want to expose yourself to $50,000 fine and/or 6 months in jail its your choice. It should be noted that the posters might be just as liable as the forum operators.

Child Online Protection Act, 47 U.S.C. § 231
Internet Safety & Child Protecton Act of 2005, S. 1507



Damn. What a d***. You know the pics aren't porn. You must really hate bitcoin isn't it?


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: MysteryMiner on July 14, 2011, 09:48:33 AM
Porn is a major vector for viruses.
Watching Porn actually is quite safe. Only the real life encounters with prostitution is the major vector of viruses, bacteria and pubic lices.

About your original post, just chill down! Internet is for porn, got it? And the pictures in question are not even porn.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: TiagoTiago on July 14, 2011, 02:16:03 PM
Actually, there are many sites out there that carry malicious payloads and attract potential victims with lures such as porn among other things


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: MysteryMiner on July 15, 2011, 12:32:33 AM
Actually, there are many sites out there that carry malicious payloads and attract potential victims with lures such as porn among other things
Don't want to drive this already demeted thread to full offtopic, but such malware spreading sites does not contain real porn. They are type of social engineering to trick users to download and double click malware executable file. The real porn sites with dialers installed using vulnerable and misconfigured Internet Explorer 5.01 and 5.5 is more than decade old history. Ohh, times when almost every computer had a V90 Flex modem connected to phone line...


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: BitcoinPorn on July 15, 2011, 12:56:25 AM
Very curious, is this case still pending ? lol

MeSarah is more educated about porn than she'll ever be.  But if not, I hope the lawyer who will be called upon for this will brief her on how this internets work.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Ekaros on July 15, 2011, 07:08:03 AM
Why not move forums to some civilised country?


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: imanikin on July 15, 2011, 04:23:02 PM
Code:
Domain Name:BITCOIN.ORG
Registrant Name:Louhi  Net Oy
Registrant Organization:Louhi Net Oy
Registrant City:Helsinki
Registrant Postal Code:00210
Registrant Country:FI
...
Internet != America.
...

Thank you! That's the main point: "THE US" doesn't own the Internet. So, "the US Law" doesn't apply here.  :P

The OP is just the latest example of the traditional American arrogance and self-centeredness, which we see on a regular basis here...  ::)

If something "violates the US Law," or is inconsistent with "the American Way of Life," an amazing numbers of Americans even in this forum think that it should not be allowed!

I guess if a nation is a leading exporter of arms and has the market cornered on nuclear aircraft carrier combat groups, it's no wonder that so many Americans believe they can impose "the US Law" on what they call "the rest of the world..."  :D


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: BitcoinPorn on July 15, 2011, 04:41:10 PM
The OP is just the latest example of the traditional American arrogance and self-centeredness, which we see on a regular basis here...  ::)

If something "violates the US Law," or is inconsistent with "the American Way of Life," an amazing numbers of Americans even in this forum think that it should not be allowed!

I guess if a nation is a leading exporter of arms and has the market cornered on nuclear aircraft carrier combat groups, it's no wonder that so many Americans believe they can impose "the US Law" on what they call "the rest of the world..."  :D
I want to say this is so fucking prejudice and wrong if it weren't so true.  And you think the Bitcoin forums, where it is basically a world market going on here, people would not even question such bullshit as a tattoo image.  In fact, I can't believe this is even for real anymore.

I am calling out MeSarah as a troll and we all got punk'd, people cannot really think that simple of established law and how it is applying to online and where they are located.   I believed her as a real person for a while, good job MeSarah.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: SgtSpike on July 15, 2011, 04:43:30 PM
The OP is just the latest example of the traditional American arrogance and self-centeredness, which we see on a regular basis here...  ::)

If something "violates the US Law," or is inconsistent with "the American Way of Life," an amazing numbers of Americans even in this forum think that it should not be allowed!

I guess if a nation is a leading exporter of arms and has the market cornered on nuclear aircraft carrier combat groups, it's no wonder that so many Americans believe they can impose "the US Law" on what they call "the rest of the world..."  :D
I want to say this is so fucking prejudice and wrong if it weren't so true.  And you think the Bitcoin forums, where it is basically a world market going on here, people would not even question such bullshit as a tattoo image.  In fact, I can't believe this is even for real anymore.

I am calling out MeSarah as a troll and we all got punk'd, people cannot really think that simple of established law and how it is applying to online and where they are located.   I believed her as a real person for a while, good job MeSarah.
MeSarah was complaining about the pron that was posted a couple pages AFTER the tattoo pictures, which was removed shortly after this thread was started.  She's not complaining about the tattoo pictures.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: joulesbeef on July 15, 2011, 04:46:42 PM
hey I get sick of seeing porn outside of porn sites too.

But mesarah, you went about this not only the wrong way, but the biggest douchebag way you can.

Your the kind of bitch that calls the cops on the neighbors for noise without asking them first to turn it down.

You sound like you probably have never gotten laid in your life.

and your reading comprehension skills are that of a retard.

Please do us all a favor and leave.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: imanikin on July 15, 2011, 05:55:15 PM
MeSarah was complaining about the pron that was posted a couple pages AFTER the tattoo pictures, which was removed shortly after this thread was started.  She's not complaining about the tattoo pictures.

For complaining, we have a "Report to Moderator" link in every post for such things...  ;)

This OP was the usual case of threatening the citizens of "the rest of the world" with the credit-card-bought power of the US.gov and its Law...

Fortunately, the credit card is finally getting maxed out, and about to go over the limit. So, "the US Law" will matter less and less to the 95% of the world that is not officially subject to it...  :D


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: Jack of Diamonds on July 17, 2011, 03:32:55 PM
Why are body parts porn for some people? Why is skin made out to be something dirty or objectable?
Do you walk around in a potato bag?

I don't see it as any different than the extremists who flog people (well, women really) in islamic states just for unveiling their face for a second to catch a breeze in the burning desert.

Fuck your world view. Really.
Go to Sudan, Congo or the Amazon and tell all those people they're indecent & lewd for walking around with no clothes in 55c temperature all their life.

Here. Here is some porn for you.
http://i56.tinypic.com/1zc1e1l.jpg

(I do realize the OP might be fishing, so no I'm not mad)


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: libertyzeal on July 17, 2011, 03:51:36 PM
Take action to corrects this problem by requiring people to verifiy their age or remove the offending images or I will be forced to report this site for violations of the law. You have 72 hours to take action. If you want to expose yourself to $50,000 fine and/or 6 months in jail its your choice. It should be noted that the posters might be just as liable as the forum operators.

You need to be freaking banned, it's one thing to point out possible illegal activity that can get the site into trouble, but threatening the site operators to "turn them in" and issuing a deadline/ultimatum, just shows you don't appreciate the community.   IMO, u need to GTFO..



Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: TiagoTiago on July 17, 2011, 08:12:26 PM
I'm not sure how safe it is to go around calling a pic you provided containing undressed minors "porn"...


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: macharborguy on July 17, 2011, 08:51:01 PM
the image with the physical BitCoin over the nipple is about as "naughty" as this poster for the American remake of The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo...
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/news/girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-poster.jpg



So what exactly is the issue?  That the girl in the photo may or may not be underage, or that underage people could log onto this forum and view the image.


Honestly, you have far more sites online to report before you go reporting this forum.  Don't report 4Chan though, those guys REALLY fight back.


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: GideonGono on July 21, 2011, 05:28:08 PM
Why are body parts porn for some people? Why is skin made out to be something dirty or objectable?
Do you walk around in a potato bag?

I don't see it as any different than the extremists who flog people (well, women really) in islamic states just for unveiling their face for a second to catch a breeze in the burning desert.

Fuck your world view. Really.
Go to Sudan, Congo or the Amazon and tell all those people they're indecent & lewd for walking around with no clothes in 55c temperature all their life.

Here. Here is some porn for you.
http://i56.tinypic.com/1zc1e1l.jpg

(I do realize the OP might be fishing, so no I'm not mad)

+1,000,000


Title: Re: Forum Violating the U.S. Law
Post by: jackjack on July 22, 2011, 12:15:53 AM
the image with the physical BitCoin over the nipple is about as "naughty" as this poster for the American remake of The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo...
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/images/news/girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-poster.jpg



So what exactly is the issue?  That the girl in the photo may or may not be underage, or that underage people could log onto this forum and view the image.


Honestly, you have far more sites online to report before you go reporting this forum.  Don't report 4Chan though, those guys REALLY fight back.
I'd really love seeing mesarah reporting 4chan. Really.