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In the last article we did a deep research about Buytime.inc. It was the reason to continue further finding new facts about other virtual currencies and companies that function remotely. As we all know “Bitcoin” is still trending! – Did you heard about Waves Platform? – Coinomat.com? – If you are one of them who has invested or you have faced a complex network, please go on and find out our researches about it!

WAVES PLATFORM

Founded in 2016 waves platform has created a big network with users around the world and most of all they have deals with some strong companies like Inc.com, Forbes magazine, International Business Time and more to come.

If you visit their official web site (wavesplatform.com) you will find a well-build web with lots of information about company, stakeholders, deals and way of working.

What can waves offer us? – If you have heard about virtual currency or you did any investment on Etherum or Bitcoin, this platform has been the key to exchange moneys and create your personal “Blockchain”.

The owner of this platform is Alexander (Sasha)  Ivanov – He has created that amazing Blockchain that is running this industry. Ivanov is a CEO and we have try to check more information about him, but we just found out some social networks where he is not still much active!

His team is composed from 9 (nine) employee and all of them have specific experiences, especially for IT and Developer.

You will find below some information that describe the facts for  “treason” of their  “clients”:

“When the Waves Platform support team was consulted about delays in withdrawals , the team says the gateway Coinomat.com is saturated and that they are not responsible of the delays on withdraws,  but curiously called our attention the low volume of transactions in the DEX Exchange of the Waves Platform, if the volume of transactions is so low why the gateway is saturated?”

“When we started to investigate Coinomat.com , we found that the owner is a company incorporated in UK, ELITE WAY DEVELOPMENTS LLP, we went directly to the online public registry of companies in UK (The Companies House).  In public records we can see that there are as officers 2 companies registered in the Seychelles Island (If you can remember the last investigation for Seychelles you know this place for what it is famous for, if not go check it) DAMITRA GROUP LTD. and LAMEN BUSINESS LTD, we started to investigate about these 2 companies in the Seychelles, and we found that those companies are involved in multiple scams and schemes in virtual currencies."

UK Public Company Records:

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/OC414955/officers

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/OC414955/filing-history/MzE2MzU0OTA1M2FkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0

COINOMAT:

The founder of coinomat.com is Alexander  Ivanov (CEO of Waves), and the person responsible of the operations of coinomat.com is Ivan Shcheglov (Integration Strategist of Waves), according to the details supplied by Natasha Malyova (Head Of Communications of Waves).

DAMITRA GROUP LTD  and  LAMEN BUSINESS LTD, are related with the scams of BTC-E.com, Richmond Berks , Buy Time and Zirconium Group. This 2 companies in Seychelles are same companies that are related to ELITE WAY DEVELOPMENTS LLP, the owners of Coinomat.com and Tidex Exchange.

We approached to the offices of coinomat.com , in Suite 1, 5 Percy Street, Fitzrovia,  London, United Kingdom, W1T 1DG , in that place works an accounting firm, that only provides the registered office and address. Coinomat.com and Tidex Exchange, they do not have a physical presence in the UK, both companies and websites are managed from Russia, nobody really knows where the physical offices of these companies are located and is that they really have them.

DAMITRA GROUP LTD. and LAMEN BUSINESS LTD , the Seychelles companies work like an umbrella , so as not to reveal the true shareholders, Seychelles is a very closed offshore jurisdiction, and it is almost impossible, know the final beneficiaries of these companies , only the registered agent knows the true beneficiaries, since it is done through a private agreement between client and agent.

BTC-e:

The last year, popular cryptocurrency exchange BTC-e was taken down by authorities, following the arrest of 38-year-old Russian national Alexander Vinyl in Greece, for allegedly laundering $4 million of ill-gotten bitcoins. Vinnik was seen as a “BTC-e operator”.

In the past, the company stated that “funds will be returned to everyone.” However, several users came forward stating that money they deposited into the exchange is seemingly stuck in limbo, as two companies tell them the other one has the funds, Bitfinex and Money Polo, none of those 2 companies have the funds, it was just a distraction operation, to inject and laundering the scam funds first in Coinomat.com and later in Waves Platform. The funds of the scams of Richmond Berks , Buy Time and Zirconium Group they had the same destiny Coinomat and Waves.

Even though bitcoin has hit a big success because it was the main topic of all virtual currencies for it’s rise to extremely high value for a short time. Anyway, those days it is happening something that we alert months ago for all who invest from the distance and have no idea who is the owner and who control that market.

What about RICHMOND BERKS?

The largest ponzi system ever created, It has been one of the few companies "ghosts" that has lasted longer paying instantly, thanks especially to the fresh money that came from the investors.

An attractive page, with good design and very well mounted that had the days counted more than anything because their compensation plan was totally unfeasible. they started giving 1.5% daily, then they went to 1.6% and finally to 1.7%. In addition it was also possible to invest in Bitcoin and earn 2% daily and over for life.

They reveal it on their own homepage. The site tells You that You deal with Richmond Berks Ltd. But the link to their "company documents" shows documents for "Richmond Berks Europe LP". This is a company in the Seychelles which is a limited partnership. The founders are 2 companies. Damitra Ltd and Lamen Business Ltd. A Mister Kuc is listed as the "Owner".

In all these companies we can see the same players, and they always appear involved Damitra Group Ltd and Lamen Business Ltd.

We can invest till we have the chance, but we should all be aware for something: Every company we listed above, more that will come in the future, all the owners they pretend that exist are just scam and money laundering. Because it is impossible to make fat your wallet without working hard and without having something to-buy-sell. Also, all the facts we found out send us in one road without exit!

I made a withdrawal 10 days ago and they didn't send my money yet.I'm really concerned.

my friend has almost 30k euro "stuck" since 9 days ago  :-\

Questions for Sasha:

1. Why the volume of the DEX so low and go down every day more? with the development that had Waves the volume would have to be much higher on the DEX, more than 50% the volume of Waves Tokens is traded on Tidex ,and the owner of Tidex is ELITE WAY DEVELOPMENT LLP, the same company that are behind of Coinomat.

2. What is your relationship with Damitra Group LTD , Lamen Business LTD and Dmitrijs Lutovs ? These companies are involved in ponzi schemes and other scams, and this companies are related to Coinomat, Tidex and Waves.

Ohhh waves platform has some FUD here. I will wait answers from Waves platform. If these are real we have another big thing.
I prefer to sell all my waves until it gets cleared.

Another question for Sasha:

What is the relationship between Coinomat and Komodo?

What was once the Slack of Coinomat now is the Komodo Slack. Very strange.

Coinomat Old Slack:

https://sprnt.slack.com/

If click on it , redirect you to the Komodo Salack.

Something that confirms this is in the message number #87 of this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=334769.80

It seems that coinomat is just busy. Yes, they could communicate better to the People who deposit or withdraw money.

But they deliver the money. I waited 1 week instead of 3 days.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/150x100q90/924/QxNMGM.png (https://imageshack.com/i/poQxNMGMp)

So i Would say coinomat is definitly no scam, otherwise why would i recieve my money?

That Sasha or Waves give their public explanation of why they are related to criminals and scammers with companies in Seychelles. I think they have to give many explanations about this.

I didn’t have any problem at all with coinomat.

I only see FUD here. There not real users who lost their money on coinomat and Tidex.
I use Tidex frequently and never had a problem while withdrawing. Sure sasha will explain what is going on with these scammer companies lets wait a response from waves side.

Big chance there just some kind of shell middleman companies used by lots of companies to avoid some laws in there own country.

Paying some money to sign for them.

Waves is going to do blockchain project for a new financial center in my country. They're developing quite good, and FUD is FUD, all meaningful projects have one. Considering ur "Legendary" rank it might be a sarcasm, I'm like that guy Sheldon, cannot always sense one  ;D

Well, people have en excuse to be paranoid due to the amount of scammy ICOs nowadays. Not saying this is necessarily a scam but yeah, a response would be appreciated.

First of all, of course, I want to thank you, for the fact that you really could find all this information and show it to the community. That the topic is quite interesting, we will see how events will develop. What will Alexander Ivanov answer to this?

Funny thing is that my response is completly ignored. The send money around, i recieved 40k eur friday.

So its not a scam, but just a slow service.

Cool, but can you post a screenshot or something just in case?

I already did a few posts up...

It would be too early to claim those three to be a scam. They do have some responsive community here.
But what I should too point out is the three are a lot similar in the way they gives out unprofessional news and updates.

To me I feel there's no point calling the three out as scam yet. Reasons being you just raised these concerning issues and allegations Let's wait for the team to respond first. And if from their response, they fail to clear the air then you can outrightly call them scam. And also up till now, no one has reported any issues of missing funds just that funds now take more time before it gets to those withdrawing. Will be around to hear from the team.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Wavesplatform/comments/7tnynm/coinomatcom_and_waves_platform_possible_scam/

Here the explanation from waves. So nothing to worry about.

The Waves response is still not very clear.

The public records shows this 2 companies appointment as officers and Members.

DAMITRA GROUP LTD and LAMEN BUSINESS LTD

Role Active: LLP Designated Member.

Someone took this decision of appointment this officers and Members.

Both companies fulfill an Active Role as designated members.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/OC414955/officers

And you are still ignoring the fact that they send me 40k euro, If they Would scam they Would not send me that kind of money.

Ok, you got your money, very good for you, we are happy to hear this.

We want an explanation why Sasha Ivanov is related to criminals and fraudsters , the 2 appointed and active members of ELITE WAY DEVELOPMENTS LLP.

The Waves response was not clear, and they tried to minimize the issue,  and they lie when they say that they just used the same incorporation agency.

The following document confirms the appoinment of the designated members with an active roll:

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/OC414955/filing-history/MzE2MzU0OTA1M2FkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0

Someone made that decision and sign the appointment.

Not sure what you are trying to do, but they say they have nothing to do with those companies. They state that they use the other company as signing company. That’s just a shell for getting feet on land. Probably ten dozen companies you research Will use the same shell.

No reason to spread a shitload of Fud here.

But for everyone reading this post, coinomat is not a scam. Like i posted earlier they send me my money (see screenshot), If have to admit they were really slow This time and support was shitty, but they deliver.

They just have to hire more People.

Would you use in your own company, signers who are criminals and are involved in scams?, Would be very silly, the public records do not lie.

Let's let the crime police in the UK make the corresponding investigations.

The signers dont have to be criminals, but companies who sign with them can be. Nothing to do about that. Signers just get a fee for signing. It could be a random person.

This topic is finished for us and we will not make more comments about it, the corresponding authorities will take the pertinent actions and that each person will make their own conclusions, we will leave the Waves platform shortly.

Lol, who is we?

The proper authorities can take action, Lmfao u dont understand anything of doing business.

Go spread ur Fud somewhere else 😂

I waiting very much the time, when the such themes will be investigated by SEC, as market manipulation. I laughthed lowdly then person called tether scum started to ask money for a lawer:) after they decided to answer. Crypto world grew up from short pants and must start to answer as adult for such manipulations.

We don't even know where Coinomat headquarters are or a telephone number.I'm waiting for almost 28.000€ since January 19th and all I've got are copy paste emails.Where are Coinomat headquarters Waves team?I will visit them to claim for my money, if you don't answer to this simple question then we have a serious problem.

I know its very frustrating too wait this long for your money. And it is really bad and terrible, but coinomat Will deliver it. Why? They did it too me also.

Still i think they have too speed up and solve there problems and be more clear about the delays.

The guy who started This topic is just all Fud, If you check there website, If you can call it that. And research it you find fake profile pictures, so now i’m guessing who is the scam?

Quite an intricate story all the same. Alexander Ivanov has not yet responded to this question? Very strange of course, but in any case I think the truth we will know for sure. I hope that very soon.

Hello everyone,

I am Alejandro Estrada the CEO of Blockchain Financial, for us this thread was finished, but I feel obliged to make a public release after being attacked publicly in the Waves Slack Channel by the team and their trolls , saying a lot of lies like I'm not a real person and my team either I invite publicly anyone who likes to visit us in our offices in Montevideo,Uruguay or in the case to make a video conference with me and my team so everyone can see our faces in live.

So far Mr. Alexander Ivanov and Waves did not issue coherent answers about it and try to minimize the situation , especially Mr. Ivanov that he has not said a word about it, he invited him publicly and face to face to answer all the questions, I have lot for he , I have many things to ask , and he all avoids my questions , Waves works like a great money laudering machine, laundering money for many scams.

After the public attacks I received, I do not intend to remain silent and I'm going to go to the end.

I got my money. ::)

We are very happy that your money has been recovered  ;D ;D ;D

The projects that are with Waves are either very shady or has people representing them that have a conflict of interest. are either very shady or have people working for them that also work for Waves. The sole purpose of these projects is to extract money from the investors. Apart from all the money from scams to be Laundering in waves and others projects.

This is nothing new, many people know it, but they fall because they have monetary interests.

man I don't really understand why you wasting your time with your pointless accuastions,must be really boring life you have there,time will tell how dumb you sound.

I do not think wasted my time, I want the community open their eyes, I defending blockchain and things like these can not happen.

For everything I say I have proof and sustenance, they have left many traces to follow, they did not do good the cleaning.

If they accuse me of something that I am not guilty , the first thing I would do would be to face, answer all the questions and defend my project, So far Sasha did not answer any single question,

Only the time will give me the reason.

Is there any criminal prosecution of Coinomat scammers yet?

okay, now it's 2019, and my bitcoins stuck after i tried to withdraw them from wavesplatform... Thank you coinomat, excellent year performance.

Waves.exchange, coinomat : one coin, two faces, one SCAM!

They change my crypto in "USD", then they :

1. Change their app in wave.exchange on dec 2019, closing the fiatgateway out.
2. The value of the USd I had in my Wave Wallet start to tumble down... "That's not us, we're a dex"
2. They change my "USD" in "CUSD"... "If you 'have any question, contact support@coinomat.com" "You never gave them your assets, we did, but... We are sorry, contact coinomat.
3. They stopped all transactions with CUSD. Now the value of my "assets" is so "0"."If you 'have any question, contact support@coinomat.com". "They never answer? We are sorry you have all the response"
For me, Wave = SCAM!

Darealdeal, you said you've your money back. I'm happy for you. How did you do that? It seems they 've definitely trap my money.


If  there are any lawsuits in progress, I would like to associate myself with them.
If not, who wants to join me? Bignaturals? Bcfinancials?

SCAM with official WavesPlatform - fiat-associated tokens WUSD (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/Ft8X1v1LTa1ABafufpaCWyVj8KkaxUWE6xBhW6sNFJck) an WEUR (https://dev.pywaves.org/assets/Gtb1WRznfchDnTh37ezoDTJ4wcoKaRsKqKjJjy7nm2zU).
This tokens was been traded at rate 1:1 for USD and EUR from 2016 year!
But, as you can see here (https://coincodex.com/crypto/wusd/?period=ALL), they did dump, dump, then delist and SCAM.

Quote from this scam-site:

Now, all peoples, who did buy this scam-tokens, have a just illiquid shit-tokens,
and real money of another peoples, this coinomat just decided to stole by one-way scam-action,
and cuntinue to keep holding this.


No any answer, by the following emails, more than 14 days:

support@wavesplatform.com,
Coinomat support <support@coinomat.com>,
sasha ivanov <sasha@wavesplatform.com>,
info@wavesprotocol.org,
support@waves.exchange,
sychev@wavesplatform.com

CEO of this rat's SCAM is Ивaнoв Aлeкcaндp Юpиeвич (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=393572)

Yep I know this shit is looking like a massive scam and probably is! They haven’t respond on emails since april and I send several for a update. Autumn is near in about 2 weeks so we will see what happen.

Or they keep ghosting us or they will post another shit excuse. I’ll bet on that.

They owe me about 16k euro. And a group of people I know all together about 350k.

But that’s not all, there is more.

Still no news from wave or their partner coinomat.

Autumn is ending. Two more weeks...
Winter is coming

WUSD and WEUR (https://waves.exchange/trade/CUSD_CEUR) trading where? Where is our money  from April 2020 (https://coincodex.com/crypto/wusd/?period=ALL)?  ::)

https://www.onlygfx.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/scam-stamp-2.png

Did you really waited an Autumn?
I posted the shit about their rat's platform, more than half year,
after they stoled my money, and no any reaction.
They do not care about reputations of this scam-shit, and maximum what do I see, this is moderations, and bans.
This is a massive rat's scam, created to stole last money from traders,
and maybe even each 1 stoled satoshi make them to be happy, every their rat's day.
I do not understand, why this scam-shit is still listed somewhere, after all this scam,
but it seems, like advertising, and moderations, was been payed from already stoled money,
which is just reinvested into PR of this dirty-scam, to continue stole the more and more money from new visitors.
Also, no any warranty, that stoled trader's money was not been spent to finance a terrorism and to raise the narco-traffic somewhere.