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Title: Transaction fees
Post by: uraliss1 on August 31, 2013, 02:55:59 PM
Hi Folks
Can someone help me with transaction fees please?

I thought it was possible to send bitcoins without any transaction fees. But it appears I am wrong. Is there something I am missing?

Thanks


Title: Re: Transaction fees
Post by: marcovaldo on August 31, 2013, 02:56:54 PM
No, it is possible but it will take more time to get confirmed.
I have a transaction that is waiting for 2 days.


Title: Re: Transaction fees
Post by: Birdy on August 31, 2013, 03:01:39 PM
It's explained here: http://bitcoinfees.com/


Title: Re: Transaction fees
Post by: uraliss1 on August 31, 2013, 04:47:42 PM
thanks for the update.
its more complicated than first appears!


Title: Re: Transaction fees
Post by: favdesu on August 31, 2013, 04:49:18 PM
thanks for the update.
its more complicated than first appears!

indeed. online wallets and most alternative clients add the fee by default, just don't forget to use any :)


Title: Re: Transaction fees
Post by: Reaper3 on August 31, 2013, 05:41:19 PM
thanks for the update.
its more complicated than first appears!

indeed. online wallets and most alternative clients add the fee by default, just don't forget to use any :)

online wallets are very unsafe a lot of times.


Title: Re: Transaction fees
Post by: bogglns on September 06, 2013, 08:58:06 AM
some wallet takes 0.001 fees


Title: Re: Transaction fees
Post by: b!z on September 06, 2013, 09:31:12 AM
the fees are very low (almost zero) so it does not really matter


Title: Re: Transaction fees
Post by: marcovaldo on September 06, 2013, 09:48:09 AM
Depends what you do ...
Imo they are way too high.


Title: Re: Transaction fees
Post by: Nigeria Prince on September 06, 2013, 09:52:55 AM
Hi Folks
Can someone help me with transaction fees please?

I thought it was possible to send bitcoins without any transaction fees. But it appears I am wrong. Is there something I am missing?

Thanks
You can do.

Calculation is:

(BTC in Satoshi * confirmations)/size > 57600000

So you you want to send 5 BTC for free, size of transaction is 250 bytes.

(500000000*x)/250 > 57600000

--> x > 28.8

So you need 29 confirmations before sending 5 BTC without fee with immediate confirmation.

Remember, all inputs must be > 0.01 BTC as well.


Sincerely, Nigeria Prince (Bitcoin expert)


Title: Re: Transaction fees
Post by: MCZ on September 06, 2013, 10:01:21 AM
Transaction fees are good because the support the miner. Thereof they support the whole network. And they also prevent 1 satoshi spamming. Imho they are exactly where they should be. Maybe they need to be lowered in the near future, as the price for 1BTC keeps rising.


Title: Re: Transaction fees
Post by: marcovaldo on September 06, 2013, 10:27:43 AM
Transaction fees are good because the support the miner. Thereof they support the whole network. And they also prevent 1 satoshi spamming. Imho they are exactly where they should be. Maybe they need to be lowered in the near future, as the price for 1BTC keeps rising.

If you buy a car, you don't care about the fees, but if you are just moving money from one wallet to an other, you care.


Title: Re: Transaction fees
Post by: Nigeria Prince on September 06, 2013, 10:31:46 AM


If you buy a car, you don't care about the fees, but if you are just moving money from one wallet to an other, you care.
Bitcoin transactions should be free, until a much bigger bitcoin adoption is acchieved.

Many people resist the bitcoin, because of the "mysteries" about the  transaction fees. Most people don't understand it is way too complicated for non-tech-people.

That's why I set all my miners and clients to -mintxfee=0.00000000  and -mintxrelayfee=0.00000000 to support 0 transaction fee.