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Title: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: exynos645 on September 01, 2013, 08:47:32 AM
I feel like bitcoin price is recovering way too fast after the last bubble burst. Could it be that the bubble was just the beginning of something much bigger ?




Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: Nigeria Prince on September 01, 2013, 08:50:39 AM
It is normal growth. We are back on normal route.

http://www7.pic-upload.de/01.09.13/ul8yak61pvc.png


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: solex on September 01, 2013, 09:01:30 AM
See that pimple-bubble in June 2011? Well maybe the April 2013 bubble is a pimple-bubble in the foothills of godzilla-bubble!  :)


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: phatsphere on September 01, 2013, 09:12:27 AM
please press on the "logarithmic" checkbox. then come back and enlighten us, where the bubble is supposed to be … ?


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on September 01, 2013, 10:58:26 AM
It is normal growth. We are back on normal route.

http://www7.pic-upload.de/01.09.13/ul8yak61pvc.png

this very technical graph that you make could be on bloomberg also  :D ;D !


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on September 01, 2013, 03:46:11 PM
I feel like bitcoin price is recovering way too fast after the last bubble burst. Could it be that the bubble was just the beginning of something much bigger ?

People can't get dollars out of Gox, so they buy bitcoins.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: Kazu on September 01, 2013, 03:48:24 PM
I feel like bitcoin price is recovering way too fast after the last bubble burst. Could it be that the bubble was just the beginning of something much bigger ?

People can't get dollars out of Gox, so they buy bitcoins.

What about EUR.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: JimboToronto on September 01, 2013, 03:58:31 PM
I can't get the image out of my head, you know the one (posted by Adamstgbit I think) of bears in denial, huddled in a corner, rocking back and forth, repeatedly murmuring "getting money out of Gox".

 ;D


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: bitcon on September 01, 2013, 07:05:02 PM
we're in the beginning phases of bubble 3.0. this time we will reach $434 before crashing.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: smoothie on September 01, 2013, 07:12:02 PM
we're in the beginning phases of bubble 3.0. this time we will reach $434 before crashing.

Define "crash" please.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: JimboToronto on September 01, 2013, 07:26:17 PM
we're in the beginning phases of bubble 3.0. this time we will reach $434 before crashing.
$434? Why that number?

I figure it gets closer to triple digits before crashing down to a couple of hundred.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: dnaleor on September 01, 2013, 07:29:17 PM
We are out of bubble territory. This is normal grwoth.
Just take a look at this chart:
http://imageshack.us/a/img855/4141/9eaf.png

In the previous bubble, the number of new members was stable when the bubble was over. And what do we see now? Stable number of new members :)


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on September 01, 2013, 08:28:17 PM
we're in the beginning phases of bubble 3.0. this time we will reach $434 before crashing.

Once the price reaches 260$ all those losers, who bought for 260$, will dump their coins.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: alexeft on September 01, 2013, 08:30:28 PM
we're in the beginning phases of bubble 3.0. this time we will reach $434 before crashing.

Once the price reaches 260$ all those losers, who bought for 260$, will dump their coins.

And then the price will jump to 600...! LOL!


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: CoinHoarder on September 01, 2013, 08:43:30 PM
Everyone seems quite convinced we're going to to 200+... I wouldn't be surprised to see it fall back to 100-120 next week. It went up too fast again... it needs to happen more gradual.

Someone pumping 2.5m usd into the market will only make the price go up for a short time. It is not sustainable unless there is a lot of new interest or ground breaking news.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: marcovaldo on September 01, 2013, 08:46:45 PM
Everyone seems quite convinced we're going to to 200+... I wouldn't be surprised to see it fall back to 100-120 next week. It went up too fast again... it needs to happen more gradual.

Someone pumping 2.5m usd into the market will only make the price go up for a short time. It is not sustainable unless there is a lot of new interest or ground breaking news.


It can go up to 200 usd before people start understanding that the recent increase in price was manipulated.
If the price keeps increasing, why would people sell now?


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: adamstgBit on September 01, 2013, 08:49:34 PM
it makes perfect sense that bitcoin is shooting up in value at this time.


think about it...


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: Dorrace on September 01, 2013, 09:08:42 PM
It is normal growth. We are back on normal route.

http://www7.pic-upload.de/01.09.13/ul8yak61pvc.png

this very technical graph that you make could be on bloomberg also  :D ;D !


hahahaha ı love you guys


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: BitChick on September 01, 2013, 09:51:42 PM
we're in the beginning phases of bubble 3.0. this time we will reach $434 before crashing.

Once the price reaches 260$ all those losers, who bought for 260$, will dump their coins.

I don't know.  People are not that patient in general.  I think many that purchased above $200 were upset when they did not make a quick profit and then sold at a loss.  Maybe they are even buying now that it is rising again?  It is hard to say.  I think many of us have been buying all along though.  I have purchased but not sold any.  I don't have a huge amount by any means, but I just like have some as a way to diversify investments.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: byronbb on September 01, 2013, 09:57:25 PM
Look at the bottom after the huge bubble. Bulls went to war at $50 pumping $100 million(?) into bitcoin. Then again we came to retest that number at about $60ish and we rebounded. If there ever has been a solid foundation for bitcoin it's been set. Even if it were to try and break lower those with massive investment could easily manipulate the market higher to defend/escape their position.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: zeroday on September 01, 2013, 10:00:54 PM
i think the next real bubble should burst after $1.5k so I'm confident buying right now.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: SheHadMANHands on September 01, 2013, 10:03:57 PM
https://i.imgur.com/dUmLwB1.png


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: 600watt on September 01, 2013, 10:11:34 PM
i think the next real bubble should burst after $1.5k so I'm confident buying right now.


+1

maybe even a little higher, right around 2k...


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: dnaleor on September 01, 2013, 10:15:00 PM
i think the next real bubble should burst after $1.5k so I'm confident buying right now.


+1

maybe even a little higher, right around 2k...


I agree, but the currect run up was too fast... We are not yet ready for a new bubble.

We will see people selling of a little but because they were burned when they bought above 100 USD.

I gues we will see a drop to 110 USD in the near future


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: phoenix1 on September 02, 2013, 01:12:04 AM
Look at the bottom after the huge bubble. Bulls went to war at $50 pumping $100 million(?) into bitcoin. Then again we came to retest that number at about $60ish and we rebounded. If there ever has been a solid foundation for bitcoin it's been set. Even if it were to try and break lower those with massive investment could easily manipulate the market higher to defend/escape their position.

Yup, Bitcoin is probably the most manipulated market in the world right now
So much for Currency 2.0 ... it's just the same shit, different masters, except in this case the bulk of the wealth is held by an even smaller number of people. If they would like to identify themsleves and their agendas (other than getting 'rich') I might be more inclined to support it
As it is I just see a bunch of sharks preying on fear and trying to profit from suffering
Good luck to you ...


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on September 02, 2013, 07:49:47 AM
Any technical analysis will fail because of Gox...


http://s2.postimg.org/bm746cevd/btctrends.png


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: MoneyGod on September 02, 2013, 07:56:40 AM
it will go normal now for few days and then again one burst but not very soon


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: Zaih on September 02, 2013, 08:28:45 AM
Who's to say it was even a bubble at all?

I feel it was just uncertainty that led to the rapid decline, people are still unfamiliar with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: dunchy on September 02, 2013, 09:29:10 AM
Quote
Yup, Bitcoin is probably the most manipulated market in the world right now
So much for Currency 2.0 ... it's just the same shit, different masters, except in this case the bulk of the wealth is held by an even smaller number of people. If they would like to identify themsleves and their agendas (other than getting 'rich') I might be more inclined to support it
As it is I just see a bunch of sharks preying on fear and trying to profit from suffering
Good luck to you ...

I'm not an experienced trader, but this post expresses exactly my feeling about bitcoin.

Ingenuity of its design when it comes to decentralization and cryptography is not questionable. But I think more thought should have been put into the rules about wealth distribution. The new crypto-owner class are way below even the infamous 1%. I think this will be the biggest obstacle for wide adoption of btc.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: superduh on September 02, 2013, 09:49:32 AM
in other words. if bitcoins WORK it's way undervalued. so to the moon we go. get your rocket ready


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: masyveonk on September 02, 2013, 09:52:16 AM
I dont believe this bubble will go above 200


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: solex on September 02, 2013, 10:58:43 AM
I dont believe this bubble will go above 200

It went to $266 already. What you are seeing now is a retrace. Nothing is a bubble until it zooms 5 or 10x higher than anything seen before, at least.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on September 02, 2013, 11:55:11 AM
I dont believe this bubble will go above 200

It went to $266 already. What you are seeing now is a retrace. Nothing is a bubble until it zooms 5 or 10x higher than anything seen before, at least.

Really? Why 5 or 10? Why not 42 or 3.731?


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: solex on September 02, 2013, 12:05:14 PM
I dont believe this bubble will go above 200

It went to $266 already. What you are seeing now is a retrace. Nothing is a bubble until it zooms 5 or 10x higher than anything seen before, at least.

Really? Why 5 or 10? Why not 42 or 3.731?

Yep 42 or 3.1415926535 or anything like that, but not 0.55 of previous high


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: davidgdg on September 02, 2013, 12:09:42 PM
i think the next real bubble should burst after $1.5k so I'm confident buying right now.


+1

maybe even a little higher, right around 2k...


I agree, but the currect run up was too fast... We are not yet ready for a new bubble.

We will see people selling of a little but because they were burned when they bought above 100 USD.

I gues we will see a drop to 110 USD in the near future

Actually the run-up is a lot slower than it was during the March-April surge. Then, it went from 70 to 140 in only a few days. This time, it took the best part of two months. It feels a lot less mad this time around.  


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: Kupsi on September 02, 2013, 12:20:14 PM
August was like January. The next two months will be fun  :D


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: 600watt on September 02, 2013, 12:33:30 PM
i think the next real bubble should burst after $1.5k so I'm confident buying right now.


+1

maybe even a little higher, right around 2k...


I agree, but the currect run up was too fast... We are not yet ready for a new bubble.

We will see people selling of a little but because they were burned when they bought above 100 USD.

I gues we will see a drop to 110 USD in the near future

Actually the run-up is a lot slower than it was during the March-April surge. Then, it went from 70 to 140 in only a few days. This time, it took the best part of two months. It feels a lot less mad this time around.  

btc almost doubled since the first week of july. if it keeps rising like this...

beginning of november: 280,- $
beginning of january: more then 500,- $

i would buy if i had funds  :)


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: smoothie on September 02, 2013, 01:09:33 PM

This is how I would see it playing out generally over the next 5 months.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: klovishey on September 02, 2013, 01:18:48 PM
beginning of november: 280,- $
beginning of january: more then 500,- $

Where you get the numbers from?


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: phatsphere on September 02, 2013, 01:45:07 PM
beginning of november: 280,- $
beginning of january: more then 500,- $

Where you get the numbers from?
exponential increase given a steady growth


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: 600watt on September 02, 2013, 01:50:16 PM
beginning of november: 280,- $
beginning of january: more then 500,- $

Where you get the numbers from?
exponential increase given a steady growth


out of my arse. :-* i was just sayin that IF it keeps rising like the last 60 days it will reach those figures.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: Kaiji on September 02, 2013, 02:58:00 PM
August was like January. The next two months will be fun  :D


I'm feeling giddy too about the coming months. This sudden increase in price because of Goxs problems has created a very high jump off point.


I don't think this is a bubble though, more like a steady rise.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on September 02, 2013, 03:17:59 PM
Quote
Is the bubble over or has it just started ???

It is both at the same time (for now). It is also at the same time a bubble and not a bubble.

It is a Schrodinger (non?)Bubble.


Even kids know that Bitcoin is a snowball.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: flagel8 on September 02, 2013, 03:22:43 PM
we're in the beginning phases of bubble 3.0. this time we will reach $434 before crashing.

Please be more precise in future. These vague numbers are hard to plug into my abacus.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: BitChick on September 02, 2013, 04:46:47 PM
we're in the beginning phases of bubble 3.0. this time we will reach $434 before crashing.

Please be more precise in future. These vague numbers are hard to plug into my abacus.

I speculate it will get to $435.59807.  Does that help? ;)


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: flagel8 on September 02, 2013, 05:10:20 PM
we're in the beginning phases of bubble 3.0. this time we will reach $434 before crashing.

Please be more precise in future. These vague numbers are hard to plug into my abacus.

I speculate it will get to $435.59807.  Does that help? ;)


"I speculate it will get to $4355980.7.  Does that help? ;)"

For ACCURACY I moved the decimal point to the proper position. Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: 600watt on September 02, 2013, 07:12:34 PM
we're in the beginning phases of bubble 3.0. this time we will reach $434 before crashing.

Please be more precise in future. These vague numbers are hard to plug into my abacus.

I speculate it will get to $435.59807.  Does that help? ;)


"I speculate it will get to $4355980.7.  Does that help? ;)"

For ACCURACY I moved the decimal point to the proper position. Hope this helps.

4 mio ???? wow. i save this for the later world wondering about this incredibly detailed forecast.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: flagel8 on September 02, 2013, 08:01:04 PM

"I speculate it will get to $4355980.7.  Does that help? ;)"

For ACCURACY I moved the decimal point to the proper position. Hope this helps.

4 mio ???? wow. i save this for the later world wondering about this incredibly detailed forecast.

Sorry, that's several bubbles away. For this mini-bubble, $435 is pretty close. But next year's bubble should peak at around $2903, IIRC. ATTENTION, BY ORDER OF THE TIME POLICE, ALL WHO HAVE READ THIS THREAD ARE ORDERED TO TAKE THE PLAID SUPPOSITORY WITHOUT DELAY.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: bitcon on September 04, 2013, 06:05:39 AM
we're in the beginning phases of bubble 3.0. this time we will reach $434 before crashing.

Once the price reaches 260$ all those losers, who bought for 260$, will dump their coins.

the thing is that the price was only at ~$260 for a very short time, so very few people were able to actually buy many coins at that price. the mistake many will make will be selling at $260 when the price will most likely surpass that record high.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: solex on September 04, 2013, 06:17:18 AM
we're in the beginning phases of bubble 3.0. this time we will reach $434 before crashing.

Once the price reaches 260$ all those losers, who bought for 260$, will dump their coins.

the thing is that the price was only at ~$260 for a very short time, so very few people were able to actually buy many coins at that price. the mistake many will make will be selling at $260 when the price will most likely surpass that record high.

Based upon how it blasted past the previous peak of $31 and never looked back, I suspect that the same will happen at $266 (on the way to $400?  :))


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: viboracecata on September 04, 2013, 06:32:20 AM
This time is the normal adjustment, I feel the price should be stand on $150 for a long time.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: BitChick on September 07, 2013, 07:05:07 PM
we're in the beginning phases of bubble 3.0. this time we will reach $434 before crashing.

Once the price reaches 260$ all those losers, who bought for 260$, will dump their coins.

the thing is that the price was only at ~$260 for a very short time, so very few people were able to actually buy many coins at that price. the mistake many will make will be selling at $260 when the price will most likely surpass that record high.

Was it was a "mistake" for people to sell at $100 when they bought at $50, or sold at $200 when they bought at $100?  I guess if they bought back in low they were the really smart ones.  Personally I have only bought and not sold any.  I think that if people sell some at $260 that the price will still have ups and downs and they can probably buy back lower at some point.  The real question is how volatile is Bitcoin going to be in the future?  Will there be major drops as time goes on?  If so, it would be nice to take advantage of those drops if possible.  Easier said then done, as many a speculation thread has been written on this.


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: masyveonk on September 08, 2013, 08:29:15 AM
This time is the normal adjustment, I feel the price should be stand on $150 for a long time.

Quite unlikely considering how the Bitcoin price fluctuates in the past, but it would be nice change


Title: Re: Is the bubble over or has it just started ???
Post by: MoneyGod on September 09, 2013, 10:24:47 AM
bitcoin fun is still coming and its have some time for this don't worry about this suddenly up and downs