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Title: Nation States game.
Post by: MatthewLM on July 13, 2011, 07:31:20 PM
Has anyone played this? I tried to create an anarcho-capitalist nation. Clearly the game is biased towards some sort of mixed democratic system.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=libertarctica

I also made the region The Lands of Anarcho Capitalism (http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_lands_of_anarcho_capitalism).


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: AyeYo on July 13, 2011, 08:22:12 PM
Has anyone played this? I tried to create an anarcho-capitalist nation. Clearly the game is biased towards some sort of mixed democratic system.

You mean just like real life?


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: MatthewLM on July 13, 2011, 08:50:26 PM
I had to eject "The Republic of Prospero and Caliban"; It wasn't 100% private sector.

In real life, things don't work as they do in the game. Public opinion matches the game quite well though.


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: The Script on July 14, 2011, 08:43:55 AM
Ok, the Free Land of Lazy Fare just joined the Lands of Anarcho-Capitalism.  I don't know how to make my economy 100% Private Sector though, so we may get ejected...


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: vforvendetta on July 14, 2011, 09:46:56 AM
This game is old as dirt - I first played it when I was in middle school some 9 odd years ago. First learned about any kind of coding/formatting using it, with basic html for my region header.  ;D


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: MatthewLM on July 14, 2011, 04:43:29 PM
Ok, the Free Land of Lazy Fare just joined the Lands of Anarcho-Capitalism.  I don't know how to make my economy 100% Private Sector though, so we may get ejected...

Sorry but no compromises. You simply need to go through the options which makes government do as little as possible. You must hav selected some bad options when you started the nation.


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: LastBattle on July 14, 2011, 05:24:40 PM
"the national animal is the Human, which is teetering on the brink of extinction"

lol


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: The Script on July 15, 2011, 01:58:44 AM
Ok, the Free Land of Lazy Fare just joined the Lands of Anarcho-Capitalism.  I don't know how to make my economy 100% Private Sector though, so we may get ejected...

Sorry but no compromises. You simply need to go through the options which makes government do as little as possible. You must hav selected some bad options when you started the nation.

Hahaha.....but, but, but my national animal is the "Statist"!



Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: GideonGono on July 15, 2011, 11:40:00 AM

Has anyone played this? I tried to create an anarcho-capitalist nation. Clearly the game is biased towards some sort of mixed democratic system.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=libertarctica

I also made the region The Lands of Anarcho Capitalism (http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_lands_of_anarcho_capitalism).

Yeah I play once in a while. Yeah I noticed it was biased as well. Check out my country Libertopium:


http://www.nationstates.net/nation=libertopium


I am yet to change my currency to bitcoin. Govts are so ineffecient, lol. One of my issues going on now:



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Libertopium Decides:
"Give Us Money!" Quoth the Poet

« Back to Issues
The Issue

The National Poetry Society of Libertopium is demanding government-funded programs to promote the arts, especially poetry.
The Debate

   1. "We need government help to promote culture." says Buffy Shiomi, chairperson of the National Poetry Society of Libertopium. "Poetry is the soul of our nation, the very pulse of humanity! We will ultimately be judged according to our contribution to artistic enlightenment. In other words, please provide funding for our humble mission to bring the beauty of poetry to the masses!"


   2. "Artists and poets should support themselves, like everyone else," replies Zeke Thiesen, spokesperson for the Capitalism Now Party. "The suffering taxpayers should be given a break. In fact, we should abolish all government subsidies for special interest groups."


   3. "Poets--who needs them?!" scoffs Chastity Silk, Chairperson Emeritus of the Troglodyte Coalition. "These long-haired troublemakers should all be lined up against the wall and shot! That would be far more entertaining than reading some dumb poems!"


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: MatthewLM on July 15, 2011, 02:01:58 PM
It automatically thinks your nation must have a massive rich-poor divide.  >:( So it is stupid.

And your nation does qualify for The Lands of Anarcho Capitalism.



Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: TheGer on July 16, 2011, 05:31:51 AM
I will give this a try and see if it's any fun.


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: AyeYo on July 16, 2011, 03:43:59 PM
It automatically thinks your nation must have a massive rich-poor divide.  >:( So it is stupid.

And your nation does qualify for The Lands of Anarcho Capitalism.




Too realistic for you?


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: MatthewLM on July 17, 2011, 01:33:47 PM
It's biased to an anti-libertarian creator.


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: AyeYo on July 18, 2011, 12:42:49 AM
It's biased to an anti-libertarian creator.


Just like the real world.  It's not biased, it's just realistic.


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: Anonymous on July 18, 2011, 12:43:57 AM
It's biased to an anti-libertarian creator.


Just like the real world.  It's not biased, it's just realistic.
Baseless arguments.


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: AyeYo on July 18, 2011, 11:58:22 AM
It's biased to an anti-libertarian creator.


Just like the real world.  It's not biased, it's just realistic.
Baseless arguments.


Based in reality, so, no, not at all baseless unless you're disconnected from reality (like yourself).


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: myrkul on July 18, 2011, 05:45:57 PM
It's biased to an anti-libertarian creator.


Just like the real world.  It's not biased, it's just realistic.
Baseless arguments.


Based in reality, so, no, not at all baseless unless you're disconnected from reality (like yourself).

He means, you have no evidence to back up your claims. I could claim that gold is heavy, or that helium is light, or vice versa, but unless I backed up my claims with facts, they'd be baseless.


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: MatthewLM on July 18, 2011, 07:37:40 PM
Once I've finished a current project I might work on my own iOS and website version of this game which isn't harsh to libertarianism.


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: LastBattle on July 19, 2011, 04:51:36 AM
Once I've finished a current project I might work on my own iOS and website version of this game which isn't harsh to libertarianism.

That would be interesting.

However, please, don't do the exact same thing and invert it, try to give all gov. types their advantages. There are so many libertarian books/games/etc that portray libertarian societies as super-advanced utopias with technologies hundreds of years ahead of their time and no poverty (see The Probability Broach, arguably Atlas Shrugged) and taste like diabetes.

For example, a statist society would have an easy time conquering things. It would also be able to develop useful things that a libertarian society wouldn't bother with due to a lack of profitability by dumping money at it (for example, aeroplanes and a lot of other things were developed by dumping money into them during wartime, meaning they would be far less used in a world that was libertarian at the time).


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: myrkul on July 19, 2011, 05:07:27 AM
For example, a statist society would have an easy time conquering things. It would also be able to develop useful things that a libertarian society wouldn't bother with due to a lack of profitability by dumping money at it (for example, aeroplanes and a lot of other things were developed by dumping money into them during wartime, meaning they would be far less used in a world that was libertarian at the time).

Remember Statism has its flavors, too. Maybe give communist countries an army recruiting bonus, republics the 'throw money at it' one, etc.


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: LastBattle on July 19, 2011, 05:34:56 AM
For example, a statist society would have an easy time conquering things. It would also be able to develop useful things that a libertarian society wouldn't bother with due to a lack of profitability by dumping money at it (for example, aeroplanes and a lot of other things were developed by dumping money into them during wartime, meaning they would be far less used in a world that was libertarian at the time).

Remember Statism has its flavors, too. Maybe give communist countries an army recruiting bonus, republics the 'throw money at it' one, etc.

Thats the way!


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: MatthewLM on July 19, 2011, 04:48:12 PM
Don'd expect me to go ahead with it for definite.


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: GideonGono on July 23, 2011, 08:32:30 PM
I just discovered that your country can be slightly different depending on whether you look at it from a "liberal" or "conservative" view point:

http://conservative.nationstates.net/nation=libertopium

http://liberal.nationstates.net/nation=libertopium


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: myrkul on July 23, 2011, 08:55:20 PM
Did you write the overview, or is it auto-genned?

'cause... Biker gangs?


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: GideonGono on July 24, 2011, 07:52:47 AM
They auto generate it according to the policies you choose in response to whatever issue your country has. The biker gangs and high crime is because I refuse to allow monopolist thugs to run protection rackets under the guise of 'policing.'

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college students make ends meet by selling their kidneys

That's because I legalized selling organs

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an increasing percentage of the population's youth have homosexual parents.

because I allow gay adoption.

Quote
'A is for Annulment' is a popular children's song.

Because I don't make people jump through hoops if they want to get a divorce.

The deforestation and "inhospitable landscape" is because we have a 100% free market.

My latest issue:

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The Police department is considering installing surveillance cameras in all major public areas, in an effort to crack down on crime.
The Debate

   1. "This is a blatant invasion of the right to privacy!" says libertarian web site operator Klaus Barry. "Now I can't even go out in public any more without being watched? And you know this is just the beginning. Today there are cameras in city streets. Tomorrow they're peering through your bedroom window."


   2. "Hey, I've got news for you," says Police media liaison Violet Licorish. "When you're out in public, PEOPLE CAN SEE YOU. These cameras will be extremely helpful in reducing the national crime rate. Frankly, I can't see what the fuss is about."


   3. "This 'slippery slope' argument has got me thinking," says Police Minister Jean-Paul Barry. "You know, it would be a lot easier to fight crime if we watched people all the time. Not with cameras, of course. That's clearly an invasion of privacy. But how about a national database of our citizens, coupled with compulsory ID cards and barcoding? It would stop crime dead in its tracks."

I'm expecting crime levels to skyrocket as a result of my policies :D


Title: Re: Nation States game.
Post by: myrkul on July 24, 2011, 08:00:09 AM
Feh... sounds like Ascent wrote the game.