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Alternate cryptocurrencies => Mining (Altcoins) => Topic started by: Perseqtor on February 02, 2018, 06:13:26 PM



Title: How much does a Baikal Giant+ A2000 @ 2000Mh/S really worth these days ?
Post by: Perseqtor on February 02, 2018, 06:13:26 PM
Always was into Bitmain's Antminers since a month ago when I first heard about Baikal. Making an order on Baikal's site is like a ride on a rollercoaster and basicly if you're not a high roller you can't get your hands on their miners, they're only selling a minimum of 6 pieces x Giant X10 or Giant B these days, at $7000 a piece so... minimum order $42.000, which is crazy for a casual such as myself. However I ran into a dude who resides in the same city I live in, "a friend of a friend" so to speak, who ownes ( besides many other ASIC miners ) a single Baikal Giant+ A2000. Here what Nicehash's profitability calculator says : https://www.nicehash.com/profitability-calculator/baikal-giant?e=0.1&currency=USD , so... taking all factors ( algorhytm difficulty increase, overall cryptocurrency market drop lately, etc. ) into consideration... how much do you estimate a Baikal Giant+ A2000 is really worth these days ? I am asking because the dude is obviously willing in selling it and I am obviously interested in buying it, I just need a good evaluation. So what do you guys think ? Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: How much does a Baikal Giant+ A2000 @ 2000Mh/S really worth these days ?
Post by: puwaha on February 03, 2018, 04:07:07 AM
What is the price they are asking?


Title: Re: How much does a Baikal Giant+ A2000 @ 2000Mh/S really worth these days ?
Post by: gfigg42 on February 03, 2018, 04:55:30 AM
The fact the guy is willing to sell it speaks for itself.


Title: Re: How much does a Baikal Giant+ A2000 @ 2000Mh/S really worth these days ?
Post by: KougarLOB on February 03, 2018, 05:17:47 AM
If the price is good, go for it.  Baikal miners sip electricity and the legacy machines run on algorithms no other ASIC will touch.  The way I see it, folks with older Baikals have a hearty miner that could last for years to come, as long as no one else reenter the X13/X15/Qbit/Quark realm.  No one knows the future.

Find your TRUE electricity costs after taxes & fees while factoring any additional accessories (PSU, cables, network gear, etc).  Try to negotiate a deal, don't take his first offer.

I have a Giant A900 (900MHs) and a Mini-Quad (600MHs) kept on Nicehash for the auto-algo switching with the built in script.  I prefer Nicehash as I don't want assorted dust from a hundred different shitcoins.  The combo alone more-than-covers the electricity costs of the rest of my farm.


Title: Re: How much does a Baikal Giant+ A2000 @ 2000Mh/S really worth these days ?
Post by: Perseqtor on February 03, 2018, 06:53:12 AM
Well thanks but you still haven't answered my question. Speaking of my question, I specifically phrased it like that so I don't get some simple "YES" / "NO" answers that would mean nothing to me. So, again... how much do you estimate a Baikal Giant+ A2000 is really worth these days ?


Title: Re: How much does a Baikal Giant+ A2000 @ 2000Mh/S really worth these days ?
Post by: phuocduong on February 03, 2018, 06:57:05 AM
price now about 2000$ on ebay, profit about 8-12$/day with nicehash (x13, x15)


Title: Re: How much does a Baikal Giant+ A2000 @ 2000Mh/S really worth these days ?
Post by: KougarLOB on February 03, 2018, 11:54:51 AM
Well thanks but you still haven't answered my question. Speaking of my question, I specifically phrased it like that so I don't get some simple "YES" / "NO" answers that would mean nothing to me. So, again... how much do you estimate a Baikal Giant+ A2000 is really worth these days ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngKT3MIfwpo

How much you want to pay is your choice.  I was offering variables to keep in mind.  They may be worth more than your typical hardware miner in the long run as it mines algos the new stuff is ignoring.


Title: Re: How much does a Baikal Giant+ A2000 @ 2000Mh/S really worth these days ?
Post by: Perseqtor on February 03, 2018, 02:26:18 PM
Seems I'm getting nowhere with my original question so... screw it, I can get it for $1000. The dude wants $1500. But I know I can get it from him with $1000. So, at least don't tell me "yes, it's a steal" or "no, way too expensive" without a few arguements to back it up. Hit me !


Title: Re: How much does a Baikal Giant+ A2000 @ 2000Mh/S really worth these days ?
Post by: puwaha on February 03, 2018, 11:44:01 PM
Seems I'm getting nowhere with my original question so... screw it, I can get it for $1000. The dude wants $1500. But I know I can get it from him with $1000. So, at least don't tell me "yes, it's a steal" or "no, way too expensive" without a few arguements to back it up. Hit me !

You were asking for buying advice without giving us the most important part of the equation.  If we said it was "worth it"... and you paid $10K... we'd all be fools.  It's "worth" is what you are willing to pay, and what you will recoup out of it over a period of time.

What does "worth it" mean to you?  Are you happy with a potential to recoup your capital in 120 days?  180 days?  365 days?

Is it worth $10K?  Sure, if you are willing to wait a very long time.  Is it worth $2K?  Sure.  Is it worth $1K?  Yeah, even better than $2K.


Title: Re: How much does a Baikal Giant+ A2000 @ 2000Mh/S really worth these days ?
Post by: bittawm on February 03, 2018, 11:50:13 PM
2k is a fair price until a new ONION miner comes out :D


Title: Re: How much does a Baikal Giant+ A2000 @ 2000Mh/S really worth these days ?
Post by: Perseqtor on February 04, 2018, 09:38:33 AM
You were asking for buying advice without giving us the most important part of the equation.  If we said it was "worth it"... and you paid $10K... we'd all be fools.  It's "worth" is what you are willing to pay, and what you will recoup out of it over a period of time.

What does "worth it" mean to you?  Are you happy with a potential to recoup your capital in 120 days?  180 days?  365 days?

Is it worth $10K?  Sure, if you are willing to wait a very long time.  Is it worth $2K?  Sure.  Is it worth $1K?  Yeah, even better than $2K.

You're missing the point. I did not ask IF it was worth it but HOW MUCH is it worth now days. And by that I was implying a comparison between prices ( both from the source and resellers if they're out of stock ) of other miners out there, estimated ROI, and some other things. I got my answer, I'm ok with 2K as long as 2 different guys said so. Therefore I will buy it from him with 1K, next week. Thank y'all.