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Title: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Tidsdilatation on February 03, 2018, 06:43:00 AM
Hi guys!

Like many of you guys ive mined with GPUs for over two years now, not on a mig scale, but as a hobby since i love the hardware parts of computers. Ive also used CPU mining, even tho its not profitable atm its still doable if you pick the right coin and hope to god it increases in value. If it doesnt, hey who cares. It was fun mining!
Anyway to the point.

I recently took up HDD mining. Or HDD Staking. Whatever you want to call it.
I did some research, and what i found out there are two big players here, Storj and Burst. For what ever reason i decided to try Storj. Since im a hardware freak i had about 30TB of harddrives laying around in my home, and now im completly set up and started mining.

There is not much about it on this forum, and the posts/topics that relate to HDD minig are outdated. Thats why i wanted to start this one.

What might i expect? Is it profitable? Is it laughable? Is the coin i chose "Storj" a joke?

Let me hear your inputs, toughts and maybe share some of your experience as we all always do in this community!


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: phuocduong on February 03, 2018, 06:54:33 AM
I prepair set up mining with HDD, .... same question with you to all member?

Thanks you!


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: ps_jb on February 03, 2018, 07:02:22 AM
30Tb on BURST may give you ~1000 coins in a week


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Tidsdilatation on February 03, 2018, 07:18:02 AM
30Tb on BURST may give you ~1000 coins in a week

At current price that is around 30 dollars, thats not as bad as i tought! Its quite ok accually! Hard drives takes alot less energy and they can hold for years being on 24/7 with alot of stress. You got any experience with Storj Coin?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: szafa on February 03, 2018, 07:52:53 AM
Storj if i remember correctly is working like share hdd space.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Kapz786 on February 03, 2018, 07:53:24 AM
I'm trying Burst but with a much smaller set up - only around 10TB. The plotting takes forever and I'm mainly using removable drives. I found it a bit tricky to set up as Im used to traditional mining software/bat files etc.

Just make sure with Burst you go to a faucet and get your first coin free and dont use it to change account name you need the coin to set up mining.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Tidsdilatation on February 03, 2018, 08:24:27 AM
I'm trying Burst but with a much smaller set up - only around 10TB. The plotting takes forever and I'm mainly using removable drives. I found it a bit tricky to set up as Im used to traditional mining software/bat files etc.

Just make sure with Burst you go to a faucet and get your first coin free and dont use it to change account name you need the coin to set up mining.

Yeah the reason i chose Storj was that i found burst so complicated, with timings and shit. Didnt get it to work properly, and this the plotting time is horrible, especially for larger hard drives like i have. Storj was basicly just download and run, buts its an ERC20 token, and get payed out once a month. Thats the downsidei guess.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: mindrust on February 03, 2018, 08:58:18 AM
Mining with 3 seagate external 8tb's. Returns are too low at the moment. The time i decided to mine BURST my expected ROI was around 6 months. Now its over a year. (I am not complaining though because all alts/btc experiencing this)

https://i.imgur.com/r6xMqhs.jpg

One thing i need to mention, never ever try to mine/plot on your 2.5"  ext. drives. They get hot easily and they'll just die because of heat.

*I see you decided to go with storj. I don't know much about storj but burst is not as complicated as many think. Sure it is not download and go but if it was like that it wouldn't be fun. I see burst/hdd mining as a legit competitor to asic&gpu mining. You should try mining burst with a few TB's first maybe you'll like it.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Tidsdilatation on February 03, 2018, 09:12:06 AM
Mining with 3 seagate external 8tb's. Returns are too low at the moment. The time i decided to mine BURST my expected ROI was around 6 months. Now its over a year. (I am not complaining though because all alts/btc experiencing this)

https://i.imgur.com/r6xMqhs.jpg

One thing i need to mention, never ever try to mine/plot on your 2.5"  ext. drives. They get hot easily and they'll just die because of heat.

*I see you decided to go with storj. I don't know much about storj but burst is not as complicated as many think. Sure it is not download and go but if it was like that it wouldn't be fun. I see burst/hdd mining as a legit competitor to asic&gpu mining. You should try mining burst with a few TB's first maybe you'll like it.

Yeah ive been playing with it, but there is something with a deadline i cannot understand, and i miss it and i dont get shares. Its very weird, do you got any good pools for BURST you can tell me about? the pre determined pools in GUI was shit and with weird deadlines.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: antsin on February 03, 2018, 09:21:44 AM
Will follow the thread. I have around 200 TB in my studio! I should use it for this!


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: mindrust on February 03, 2018, 09:24:22 AM
I use this pool and i am happy with the results:
https://0-100-pool.burst.cryptoguru.org/

0-100 means that you don't get rewarded if you find a block but you get all the rewards (%100) from your historical shares. I started with https://50-50-pool.burst.cryptoguru.org/ when i first started to mine in January and it was horrible. I was still plotting my HDD's at that time maybe that was the reason. (probably not, see below) I wasn't making the coins the calculator was saying. (https://explore.burst.cryptoguru.org/tool/calculate)

In a 50-50 pool you get half of the historical shares and half of the block reward. The problem is you'll never find a block unless you have over 100TB. So I was just wasting my time on 50-50 with my few TB's.

0-100 guru is the best if you are mining on a few TB's  like me.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Calatravo on February 03, 2018, 12:15:50 PM
Do u run these HDD with ur gpu rig? And how much power do they pull?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: tokexchain on February 03, 2018, 12:27:34 PM
HDD mining has been around for a while now, with such long times between payouts, some unscrupulous mining pools have signed up members then shut down shop and run off with the funds, choose wisely in your pools, there are lots of recommendations such as on forums like this and crypto mining reviews web sites.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Kapz786 on February 03, 2018, 12:28:42 PM
I use this pool and i am happy with the results:
https://0-100-pool.burst.cryptoguru.org/

0-100 means that you don't get rewarded if you find a block but you get all the rewards (%100) from your historical shares. I started with https://50-50-pool.burst.cryptoguru.org/ when i first started to mine in January and it was horrible. I was still plotting my HDD's at that time maybe that was the reason. (probably not, see below) I wasn't making the coins the calculator was saying. (https://explore.burst.cryptoguru.org/tool/calculate)

In a 50-50 pool you get half of the historical shares and half of the block reward. The problem is you'll never find a block unless you have over 100TB. So I was just wasting my time on 50-50 with my few TB's.

0-100 guru is the best if you are mining on a few TB's  like me.

Thanks for this! Been mining for 24 hrs on that pool on the 50-50 one and noticed I got sweet nothing


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: blackenedvoodoo on February 03, 2018, 12:35:59 PM
I will be watching this thread.  I have 2 Synology servers.  wonder if you can run this on them?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: mindrust on February 03, 2018, 01:49:34 PM
I will be watching this thread.  I have 2 Synology servers.  wonder if you can run this on them?


I don't know what a synology server is but as long as it has HDD's in it, you can mine BURST.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Amstellodamois on February 03, 2018, 02:24:20 PM
When I decided to buy a 4 TB drive for 100€, I was supposed to get a return of $20 in BURST per month, which sounded ok.
Now it's $8  ;D


About the deadlines (the "time thing"), I have to admit I'm not sure I understood it either ;D I'm mining in a pool that said "max deadline is this" and I just set the deadline to this. The thing works so I let it be.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: whoismoses on February 03, 2018, 02:53:23 PM
Ha! I am also building a HDD mining rig. Plotting 8tb drive #1 right now.

I am GPU plotting, much faster. Anyone know if GPU HDD mining is a thing and worth it? I'm trying to figure out if I should use an RX550 4GB for GPU mining or and RX580 8GB.

I am about to attempt to plot 1TB with an RX580, it takes about 5 hours for 1TB on an RX550. I am likely doing something wrong. Still figuring this out.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Amstellodamois on February 03, 2018, 03:07:08 PM
I am likely doing something wrong. Still figuring this out.
I don't think so.

The whole idea of HDD mining is to avoid using to much processing power to mine, so almost any shitty CPU/GPU will do.


Calculating the nonces takes time, though, and GPU plotting is faster. But it seems more complicated (you need to optimize the files afterward and whatnot).


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Tidsdilatation on February 03, 2018, 04:37:24 PM
Seems like burst is the most common HDD mining? So noone of you have used Storj Share? The token is even more valued than burst token. I find it weird that no one heard of it, since its easier to set up, more user friendly and more valueable.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: whoismoses on February 04, 2018, 04:17:53 AM
Can anyone give me some advice on configuring the gpu plotter devices.txt file for an RX580 8GB? Right now it is slower than my RX 550...


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: glosed on February 04, 2018, 04:36:09 AM
Has anyone attempted to host on Sia? Lots of buzz/drama around mining it since Bitmain just shipped an ASIC for it, but I haven't heard anything about profiting via hosting. I'm unfamiliar with Storj and Burst (have only heard of them) but have at least poked around the Sia client.

It looks like for Sia you could probably net just under $4/TB/month. Would be interesting to see how Storj and Burst stack up on a $/TB/month basis.

Poking around Newegg it looks like the best you're going to get for storage space is around $40/TB, so ROI just over 10 months.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: notabeliever on February 04, 2018, 06:37:06 AM
Can anyone give me some advice on configuring the gpu plotter devices.txt file for an RX580 8GB? Right now it is slower than my RX 550...
Using the Windows GPU Plotter:
1) open the newly created "gpuPlotGenerator-bin-win-x86-2.0.0" folder that was created in the previous step

2) In an empty space within the "gpuPlotGenerator-bin-win-x86-2.0.0" folder do the following:
Hold down the "shift" key and right-click in an empty spot. Select "Open command window here"
(Note: the "Open command window here" option is only available if you hold Shift and Right-Click)
(Alternatively, you could just open a command window manually and do a "CD" to the folder containing the gpuPlotGenerator.exe file)

3) Run the following command to list the GPU's Platform and Platform ID:
Code:
gpuPlotGenerator.exe list platforms
Note down the "ID" number for the proper device platform, this number will be <platformId> in the next step

Example:

4) Run the following commands to find the DeviceID's of the device in your system, replacing <platformId> with the number you noted down in the last step:
Code:
gpuPlotGenerator.exe list devices <platformId>

Example:
gpuPlotGenerator.exe list devices 0

Note down the "ID" number for the proper device to use, this will be <deviceId> in the next step
Note down the "Max global memory size" number, this will be the MAXIMUM <stagger> we are able to set

5) Finally, create the desired plotting information. Here is the basic syntax for the app:
Quote
gpuPlotGenerator.exe generate <platformId> <deviceId> "<Plot folder path>" <AccountNumber> <StartingPlot> <NumberOfPlots> <Stagger> <Threads> <Hashes>

<platformId> = The ID# we found in Step 3 (In my case, this was 0)
<deviceId> = The ID# we found in Step 4 (In my case, this was also 0)
<Plot folder path> = The folder you wish to have plots created (Ex: C:\Path to\plots)
<AccountNumber> = This is your Numeric Burstcoin wallet address (Ex: 11111222223333344444)
<StartingPlot> = The plot number you would like to start generating at
<NumberOfPlots> = The number of plots to create from the StartingPlot
<Stagger> = Amount of memory to use on the GPU, in MB. (Ex: I set mine to 1024, instead of my MAX of 1265)
<Threads> = Amount of parallel GPU threads to use (Typically either 64, 128 or 256 depending on the capabilities of your card) (believe this may be tied to "Max work group size", but have no way to confirm)
<Hashes> = Number of chunks the GPU will split work into. (Ranges from 1 to 8160, this is purely guess work... so start low-ish and try to go up as close to 8160 as you can as higher numbers stress the GPU more)

As an example, this is the command that I used on my AMD Radeon 7800:
Code:
gpuPlotGenerator.exe generate 0 0 "C:\Path to\plots" 11111222223333344444 14670000 7335000 1000 64 1024
Note: The above command is probably not optimized for the best speed... but it's just an example that works for my card


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: b19971458 on February 04, 2018, 08:09:17 AM
magbe i think you can choose a another coin which is new,will be more profitable.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Miningtry on February 04, 2018, 09:28:24 AM
Any new hdd mining coins on horizon?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Amstellodamois on February 04, 2018, 09:29:33 AM
It looks like for Sia you could probably net just under $4/TB/month. Would be interesting to see how Storj and Burst stack up on a $/TB/month basis.
Much less on Burst at the moment: https://explore.burst.cryptoguru.org/tool/calculate


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Calatravo on February 04, 2018, 09:32:52 AM
somebody pls tell me what are the advanteges/disadvanteges of external hdd compared to intern hdd?
and can i just add some TB to my gpu mining rig with a cheap cpu und only 4 gb of ram?
thx


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Kapz786 on February 04, 2018, 10:13:22 AM
somebody pls tell me what are the advanteges/disadvanteges of external hdd compared to intern hdd?
and can i just add some TB to my gpu mining rig with a cheap cpu und only 4 gb of ram?
thx

I think the consensus is the external HDD's heat up more and can be more prone to failure.

If your are using Windows you can add a hard drive or two and mine Burst or whatever as it doesn't use much resources.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Tidsdilatation on February 04, 2018, 10:56:37 AM
As i specified on topic creating im new at this and chose to go for Storj. But now im gonna use 1TB and try out burst seriously, for one month. If you follow this thread i will come back in 1 month and give you comparison between Storj and Burst. I will probobly be heard from before, becourse i might need help setting up burst :D Currently plotting the drive.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: mindrust on February 04, 2018, 12:02:02 PM
somebody pls tell me what are the advanteges/disadvanteges of external hdd compared to intern hdd?
and can i just add some TB to my gpu mining rig with a cheap cpu und only 4 gb of ram?
thx

I think the consensus is the external HDD's heat up more and can be more prone to failure.

If your are using Windows you can add a hard drive or two and mine Burst or whatever as it doesn't use much resources.

External or Internal they gather heat only while you are plotting them. After you plot them, mining generates literally no heat at all. No heat, no power consumption. You can generate your plots on your internal HDD and move to your ext. HDD if you like. I personally didn't bother with that. Just plotted them and left them mining. No problems. That's it if you are plotting 3.5" drives btw, do not never ever plot your 2.5" ext. drives. I did plot one of mine and i am not sure but it is half dead now. Read/Write speed randomly goes very low. I probably killed it.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Amstellodamois on February 04, 2018, 12:32:55 PM
and can i just add some TB to my gpu mining rig with a cheap cpu und only 4 gb of ram?
thx
That's what I'm doing. You should expect days to plot, though.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Calatravo on February 04, 2018, 07:26:00 PM
yes
and can i just add some TB to my gpu mining rig with a cheap cpu und only 4 gb of ram?
thx
That's what I'm doing. You should expect days to plot, though.

haha yes im at 600 nonces per minute  :D


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: ps_jb on February 04, 2018, 10:46:55 PM
Storj is WAY worse than BURST now. So I completely switched to BURST. Have two rigs: 1) 47Tb and 2) 61Tb

Mainly 10Tb HDDs. Planning to try new 12Tb, can buy them with 20% discount


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Amstellodamois on February 04, 2018, 11:30:34 PM
Calatravo> Oh, that's bad, I was achieving over 1000 with a shitty Celeron 3900, one core and 1 GB of allocated RAM.
Also, I've had to decrease slightly the plotting priority so that the GPU mining wouldn't be affected.

ps_jb> What a huge operation! To scale it to that level, do you use a NAS or some dedicated hardware?
An idea of your cost-per-TB?
Plotting solution?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Kozlov on February 05, 2018, 12:29:43 AM
^

Any chance of a group buy? Are you located in Europe by chance? Nice discount - how did you manage to bag it?  ;D

I have looked into all three coins and Burst seems good, but Storj isn't far off. Maybe $2 per TB. Would it make sense to mine 70% Burst and 30% Storj?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: minerja on February 05, 2018, 09:52:51 AM
Hi Guys,

Just my findings.

Plotting....with Ryzen 1700 no o/c about 17,000 nonces / min, so 1Tb takes around 4-5 hours I seem to remember

Mining with 28.92TB getting around 10-30 coins a day...have tried various pools, some people seem to be getting about double what I get but even so 20-60 burst a day is simply not worth it (30 burst roughly £0.70 per day - 4 x 8tb drives cost £760, so about 1000 days ROI) oh and full ring takes 115Watts which in the Uk is about £0.39 a day so profit is about 31p a day...

Not trying to put a downer on things, I really enjoyed mining burst last January, and made around 30,000 which I sold for around 12 sats (up from 6 sats), but now I think you need to have upwards of 100TB to make it worth while, and I honestly don't know how you buy 100Tb of space cheap enough...
I'll keep running through to the summer, but only because I have already bought the drives, but right now if I didn't own them, I certainly wouldn't buy them specially for burst (or storj), simply too low a return.
Talk to as many peeps as poss, some may have much better luck than me, also half the values from any calculators you see online, they really are a very enthusiastic guide.
Also in terms of expected difficulty there are several miners building 1PB (1000TB) rigs which will be live in the next few weeks, so diff will jump massively...so go careful and enjoy.
J


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: minerja on February 05, 2018, 09:57:56 AM
Calatravo> Oh, that's bad, I was achieving over 1000 with a shitty Celeron 3900, one core and 1 GB of allocated RAM.
Also, I've had to decrease slightly the plotting priority so that the GPU mining wouldn't be affected.

ps_jb> What a huge operation! To scale it to that level, do you use a NAS or some dedicated hardware?
An idea of your cost-per-TB?
Plotting solution?

A cheap old AMD x4 845 (quad core with AVX2) will plot at about 8000 nonces / min
If you are going multi drive, use gpupoltter and plot to say 3-4 drives at once...it will take hours to get the correct settings but when you do, you could plot say 8000 nonces / min on each of 4 drives at the same time...
I don't have my old settings (I plotted last lot with cpu) but with R9 270 I think I was plotting 1TB on 3 drives at about 11,000 nonces/min each, so about 3TB every 6 hours...although NVidia has ocl support, if gpu plotting use an AMD card, must better. (remember to use buffered and then optimise - direct is crappy)
J


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: laineux on February 05, 2018, 10:11:07 AM
Hello

Nobody talks about bandwidth used by hdd mining.

I think it is the essential point.

Filling 10 To width ADSL is pretty not possible.

Or I missed something ?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: minerja on February 05, 2018, 10:35:14 AM
Hello

Nobody talks about bandwidth used by hdd mining.

I think it is the essential point.

Filling 10 To width ADSL is pretty not possible.

Or I missed something ?

Never been an issue, burst uses virtually no bandwidth that I am aware of.
I have mined it on a mobile connection with no real issues, just a bit of lag that's all.
Also works fine on as low 5mb/s connection out in the countryside.
J


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Amstellodamois on February 05, 2018, 11:03:35 AM
(remember to use buffered and then optimise - direct is crappy)
Which means you should plot half your space, then optimize, then replot half the remaining space...
Or can you plot on one HDD, then optimize that whole drive onto another?


Nobody talks about bandwidth used by hdd mining.

I think it is the essential point.

Filling 10 To width ADSL is pretty not possible.

Or I missed something ?
You are calculating the nonces, not downloading them.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: laineux on February 05, 2018, 12:10:49 PM
Ok

I will try it with some old HDD

Thanks


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Amstellodamois on February 05, 2018, 12:16:44 PM
Depending on what you call "old", you might make a few cents a month ;D


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: whoismoses on February 05, 2018, 01:36:03 PM
Can anyone validate that my payments for Burst mining are what I should expect? I've looked at the calculators and they don't line up.

I have 7.25 TB plotted, running on an external 8TB hard drive on USB3.

I am using JMiner, my average round time for the 7.25 TB is 43s. I am on a 50-50 pool.

I have been mining for about 12 hours and have only made .12 burst. According to the calculator I should make about 11 burst per day.

I want to switch to a 0-100 pool, but I don't have a burst to pay the pull to switch. Anyone willing to send me a single burst?


Does anyone see anything out of the norm?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Amstellodamois on February 05, 2018, 01:58:00 PM
I see that you should wait a few days rather than 12 hours before drawing conclusions ;-)


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: whoismoses on February 05, 2018, 02:11:42 PM
I see that you should wait a few days rather than 12 hours before drawing conclusions ;-)

Yea, I get that. I still think given the small space 7.25, likely to grow to 25tb in the next couple weeks I should use a 0-100 pool, right?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Tidsdilatation on February 05, 2018, 03:31:45 PM
Can someone experienced with burst mining explain to me what is happening here?

https://imgur.com/a/02nim

I cant seem to get the DL for every block? Or what is going on? For every block im supposed to DL 2 seperate things right? Sometimes i just download one, and sometimes it doesnt even do one! i use Qbundle and mine on 0-100-pool.burst.cryptoguru.org.

Hoping some of you got an explaination for what is happening here  ;D


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: minerja on February 05, 2018, 04:09:18 PM
Can someone experienced with burst mining explain to me what is happening here?

https://imgur.com/a/02nim

I cant seem to get the DL for every block? Or what is going on? For every block im supposed to DL 2 seperate things right? Sometimes i just download one, and sometimes it doesnt even do one! i use Qbundle and mine on 0-100-pool.burst.cryptoguru.org.

Hoping some of you got an explaination for what is happening here  ;D

I believe that quite often you simply don't find a deadline (not enought hdd space), and that othertimes the DL is not confirmed if it falls outside the allowed range for the pool. I see the pool you are on allows very long DL, the ones i mine allow no more then 30days, some allow only 24hr deadlines, so i think that is what you are seeing.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: jonny6767 on February 05, 2018, 04:29:21 PM
how much power does it use???


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: mindrust on February 05, 2018, 04:36:08 PM
I have 7.25 TB plotted,... I am on a 50-50 pool.

You are scamming yourself. Do not mine on 50-50. Move to 0-100. If you wonder why, see my earlier messages.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Tidsdilatation on February 05, 2018, 05:00:18 PM
Can someone experienced with burst mining explain to me what is happening here?

https://imgur.com/a/02nim

I cant seem to get the DL for every block? Or what is going on? For every block im supposed to DL 2 seperate things right? Sometimes i just download one, and sometimes it doesnt even do one! i use Qbundle and mine on 0-100-pool.burst.cryptoguru.org.

Hoping some of you got an explaination for what is happening here  ;D

I believe that quite often you simply don't find a deadline (not enought hdd space), and that othertimes the DL is not confirmed if it falls outside the allowed range for the pool. I see the pool you are on allows very long DL, the ones i mine allow no more then 30days, some allow only 24hr deadlines, so i think that is what you are seeing.

Yes, the reason i use this pool is for the very long deadline. Since i only use about 1,3TB i tought that would suffice. But what you are saying is that i need longer deadline? Or what to you mean if it falls "outside the rage of the pool"

Im sorry for not understanding, im new to HDD mining as i stated in the OP.
Thanks mate.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: mindrust on February 05, 2018, 05:03:42 PM
Can someone experienced with burst mining explain to me what is happening here?

https://imgur.com/a/02nim


It basically says your miner is out of date. (not enough terabytes)

Miner inflation.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Tidsdilatation on February 05, 2018, 05:17:51 PM
Can someone experienced with burst mining explain to me what is happening here?

https://imgur.com/a/02nim


It basically says your miner is out of date. (not enough terabytes)

Miner inflation.

And the only way to fix it is to use more Terabytes? Not change pool to more deadline or downloading another miner?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: mindrust on February 05, 2018, 05:20:11 PM
Can someone experienced with burst mining explain to me what is happening here?

https://imgur.com/a/02nim


It basically says your miner is out of date. (not enough terabytes)

Miner inflation.

And the only way to fix it is to use more Terabytes? Not change pool to more deadline or downloading another miner?

How do you download another miner? Didn't understand this one.

You can go to another pool which accepts bigger deadlines maybe but still the other dudes will submit by far better deadlines than yours and you'll still get nothing.

Get more terabytes.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Tidsdilatation on February 05, 2018, 05:42:11 PM
Can someone experienced with burst mining explain to me what is happening here?

https://imgur.com/a/02nim


It basically says your miner is out of date. (not enough terabytes)

Miner inflation.

And the only way to fix it is to use more Terabytes? Not change pool to more deadline or downloading another miner?

How do you download another miner? Didn't understand this one.

You can go to another pool which accepts bigger deadlines maybe but still the other dudes will submit by far better deadlines than yours and you'll still get nothing.

Get more terabytes.

Alright now i get it, thank you for your help and patiance.  :)


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Amstellodamois on February 05, 2018, 05:45:22 PM
How do you download another miner? Didn't understand this one.
Because the miner is a piece of software.
The thing that makes heat and noise in your room is a rig.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Calatravo on February 05, 2018, 06:34:04 PM
Can someone experienced with burst mining explain to me what is happening here?

https://imgur.com/a/02nim


It basically says your miner is out of date. (not enough terabytes)

Miner inflation.

And the only way to fix it is to use more Terabytes? Not change pool to more deadline or downloading another miner?

How do you download another miner? Didn't understand this one.

You can go to another pool which accepts bigger deadlines maybe but still the other dudes will submit by far better deadlines than yours and you'll still get nothing.

Get more terabytes.

so its not worth mining with 2 TB ? :(


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: mindrust on February 05, 2018, 06:39:15 PM
Can someone experienced with burst mining explain to me what is happening here?

https://imgur.com/a/02nim


It basically says your miner is out of date. (not enough terabytes)

Miner inflation.

And the only way to fix it is to use more Terabytes? Not change pool to more deadline or downloading another miner?

How do you download another miner? Didn't understand this one.

You can go to another pool which accepts bigger deadlines maybe but still the other dudes will submit by far better deadlines than yours and you'll still get nothing.

Get more terabytes.

so its not worth mining with 2 TB ? :(

See it yourself.
https://explore.burst.cryptoguru.org/tool/calculate

That's $2/month. Do you think it is worth it? 1 free beer every month for your efforts. Doesn't sound too bad  ;D


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Tidsdilatation on February 07, 2018, 04:22:00 PM
Just wanted to update: Mining away with both Burst mining and Storj Share to compare what is most profitable (if it even is) at the end of the month! Will come back with the results and if any of you have questions just ask, this is for us GPU miners who have completly neglected the HDD miners!  ;D


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Amstellodamois on February 07, 2018, 05:11:06 PM
So you've got the same storage space allocated to each solution and you've started your experiments at the same time?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Calatravo on February 07, 2018, 06:36:38 PM
Can someone experienced with burst mining explain to me what is happening here?

https://imgur.com/a/02nim


It basically says your miner is out of date. (not enough terabytes)

Miner inflation.

And the only way to fix it is to use more Terabytes? Not change pool to more deadline or downloading another miner?

How do you download another miner? Didn't understand this one.

You can go to another pool which accepts bigger deadlines maybe but still the other dudes will submit by far better deadlines than yours and you'll still get nothing.

Get more terabytes.

so its not worth mining with 2 TB ? :(

See it yourself.
https://explore.burst.cryptoguru.org/tool/calculate

That's $2/month. Do you think it is worth it? 1 free beer every month for your efforts. Doesn't sound too bad  ;D

haha ok i'll think about getting some more TB :D

how much power does a single HDD pull while mining?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: mindrust on February 07, 2018, 07:33:49 PM

haha ok i'll think about getting some more TB :D

how much power does a single HDD pull while mining?

Next to nothing.

You are reading your plots while you mine which consumes not much. The writing process is what creates major stress on the HDD's, not reading. Luckily we plot only once.

Btw, mining became incredibly painful i am starting to regret getting into this.  ;D I hope burst prices rise along with its hash rate soon.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Amstellodamois on February 08, 2018, 12:03:52 AM
I feel like there are more blocks mined today, am I wrong?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Tidsdilatation on February 08, 2018, 12:42:34 AM
So you've got the same storage space allocated to each solution and you've started your experiments at the same time?

Not really, but if i know the sizes of both and the reward i could easily calculate the profits using any size. Even if i did have the same storage space allocated for both, to factor in problems with pools etc etc would still throw the experiment out the window. What im trying to do here is to see if its even doable. Its looking good so far, and im running 6 GPU mining on the same computer without even the slightest problem.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Amstellodamois on February 08, 2018, 10:42:33 AM
Alright.


I'm mining with BurstNeon but I can't remember the reward scheme, nor can I find it on the web (???). Does someone know?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: chuckspadina on February 08, 2018, 11:52:12 AM
Didn't BURST get hacked before? I'm sticking with STORJ


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Calatravo on February 08, 2018, 10:35:20 PM
Didn't BURST get hacked before? I'm sticking with STORJ

what about the earning's with STORJ ?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: whoismoses on February 09, 2018, 01:06:00 PM
I finished gpu plotting (optimized) my first 8tb drive yesterday. It took about 27 hours with an RX 550 4GB. I've started my second 8tb drive and have one more to do after that.

Question: Does anyone know if the starting nonce can be 0 for each drive, or do I have to start where I left off on the previous drive?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Amstellodamois on February 09, 2018, 07:00:32 PM
Start AT LEAST where you left off.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: whoismoses on February 09, 2018, 07:56:42 PM
Start AT LEAST where you left off.

Ok, that is what I did on HD2...

Funny... Claymore added new dual mining options to his miner. I've mined more $$$ worth of XVG in 30 minutes on that than I have in 2 days of Burst mining... lol


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: cheloveksgor on February 09, 2018, 08:51:04 PM
I use this pool and i am happy with the results:
https://0-100-pool.burst.cryptoguru.org/

0-100 means that you don't get rewarded if you find a block but you get all the rewards (%100) from your historical shares. I started with https://50-50-pool.burst.cryptoguru.org/ when i first started to mine in January and it was horrible. I was still plotting my HDD's at that time maybe that was the reason. (probably not, see below) I wasn't making the coins the calculator was saying. (https://explore.burst.cryptoguru.org/tool/calculate)

In a 50-50 pool you get half of the historical shares and half of the block reward. The problem is you'll never find a block unless you have over 100TB. So I was just wasting my time on 50-50 with my few TB's.

0-100 guru is the best if you are mining on a few TB's  like me.

Thanks for this! Been mining for 24 hrs on that pool on the 50-50 one and noticed I got sweet nothing
good one. i use it too


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Tidsdilatation on February 10, 2018, 12:52:36 PM
Didn't BURST get hacked before? I'm sticking with STORJ

what about the earning's with STORJ ?

Dont know yet, just started in the beginning of this month. And apparently they only pay out once each month. And the amount of coins you get depends on how many ppl used their service, and how many if those ppl used your harddrives combined with how many gb u uploaded. The coin has almost 50x the value of BURST, so will be fun to see the amount one will get. :)


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Calatravo on February 13, 2018, 05:56:32 PM
Didn't BURST get hacked before? I'm sticking with STORJ

what about the earning's with STORJ ?

Dont know yet, just started in the beginning of this month. And apparently they only pay out once each month. And the amount of coins you get depends on how many ppl used their service, and how many if those ppl used your harddrives combined with how many gb u uploaded. The coin has almost 50x the value of BURST, so will be fun to see the amount one will get. :)

okay nice pls share ur experience with us :)

i finally finished plooting my hdd. now i need one burst to start mining....

can somebody pls send me one to that adress: BURST-3YJM-BXGF-M5EM-73CUE

THX


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: generalheed on February 13, 2018, 06:25:12 PM
Woah this is my first time hearing about HDD mining. I thought it was a joke when I first read the title, but turns out it's legit! I've got a lot of spare hard drives, both internal and external just sitting around. I found a site that had a getting started guide for mining Storj using an app called Storj Share. Before I jump right in, is there anywhere else I can get more information about this or any recommendations? This is the first time I'm just learning about this so I know next to nothing at the moment and don't want to be led astray with malicious sites.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: whoismoses on March 20, 2018, 12:48:14 PM
Ok, so it has been about a month since I started this. I have 58tb and I'm making ~90 BURST per day.

I have found that I make more on the 0-100 pool versus 50-50, even though with 58tb I should be ok on the 50-50 pool.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Tidsdilatation on March 22, 2018, 02:11:03 PM
Okey, i told you guys that i would come back after i mined both BURST and Storj for a month. Here it is : BURST is shit, it pays NOTHING and the coin itself is pretty useless. Storj on the other hand, it pays OK! Its definetly profitable if you only count electricity used for HDDs. The program used is also nice to use and user friendly. Delete ur BURST mining and start with Storj.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: DannHomes on March 22, 2018, 02:42:35 PM
I joined to mine Burst coin from last December. It's quite interesting as it consumes not much power.

https://i.imgur.com/xVBpNRM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4ns6Ldj.jpg


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Tidsdilatation on March 22, 2018, 02:47:48 PM
I joined to mine Burst coin from last December. It's quite interesting as it consumes not much power.

https://i.imgur.com/xVBpNRM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4ns6Ldj.jpg


Holy shit thats a lot of HDDs!! How many TB is that? How much did that cost? Expected ROI? How much do you pay in electricity each month? Really cool setup man. Keep it up, you makes us miners happy  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: shibob on March 22, 2018, 03:45:25 PM
I joined to mine Burst coin from last December. It's quite interesting as it consumes not much power.

https://i.imgur.com/xVBpNRM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4ns6Ldj.jpg


I dont even know that you also mine Burst Coin, I just think you mine ETH haha. How much Tb of your farm, and I wonder why you use all HDD not external hard drive which is typically cheaper and consumes less power than HDD. Btw, your setup is too cool. I have only 80Tb but I just make it like this haha.

https://i.imgur.com/cXJ2yrW.jpg


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Amstellodamois on March 22, 2018, 04:31:03 PM
Okey, i told you guys that i would come back after i mined both BURST and Storj for a month. Here it is : BURST is shit, it pays NOTHING and the coin itself is pretty useless. Storj on the other hand, it pays OK! Its definetly profitable if you only count electricity used for HDDs. The program used is also nice to use and user friendly. Delete ur BURST mining and start with Storj.
Do you have monetary data? :-D
How much is one making vs the other?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: mindrust on March 22, 2018, 04:36:04 PM
I joined to mine Burst coin from last December. It's quite interesting as it consumes not much power.

https://i.imgur.com/xVBpNRM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4ns6Ldj.jpg


I dont even know that you also mine Burst Coin, I just think you mine ETH haha. How much Tb of your farm, and I wonder why you use all HDD not external hard drive which is typically cheaper and consumes less power than HDD. Btw, your setup is too cool. I have only 80Tb but I just make it like this haha.

https://i.imgur.com/cXJ2yrW.jpg

Buy some usb fans for those HDD's like this one;
https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/arctic-breeze-mobile.html

I own 3 of those those HDD's and they get pretty hot after some time. Probably not dangerous but keeping them cool might extend their lifespan.

One fan can cool 3 of your HDD's. Those seagates have 2 usb ports on the front panel. You can dial your fan there.

This is my mini rig:
https://i.imgur.com/L5oBTsT.jpg

Waiting for the new 20xx GPU's and more money, so I can add more HDD's  8)


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: shibob on March 22, 2018, 04:57:50 PM
I joined to mine Burst coin from last December. It's quite interesting as it consumes not much power.

https://i.imgur.com/xVBpNRM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4ns6Ldj.jpg


I dont even know that you also mine Burst Coin, I just think you mine ETH haha. How much Tb of your farm, and I wonder why you use all HDD not external hard drive which is typically cheaper and consumes less power than HDD. Btw, your setup is too cool. I have only 80Tb but I just make it like this haha.

https://i.imgur.com/cXJ2yrW.jpg

Buy some usb fans for those HDD's like this one;
https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/products/accessories/usb-fan.html

I own 3 of those those HDD's and they get pretty hot after some time. Probably not dangerous but keeping them cool might extend their life.

One fan can cool 3 of your HDD's. Those seagates have 2 usb ports on the front panel. You can dial your fan there.

Thank you very much for your suggestion. Yeah, it's quite hot without fan. Actually, I open the window all the time for this room (the living room :D), I am going to move 1 of 1 GPU rig back home here, and I think I will buy 1 40cm fan to make all cool.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: flower1024 on March 22, 2018, 06:03:36 PM
Okey, i told you guys that i would come back after i mined both BURST and Storj for a month. Here it is : BURST is shit, it pays NOTHING and the coin itself is pretty useless. Storj on the other hand, it pays OK! Its definetly profitable if you only count electricity used for HDDs. The program used is also nice to use and user friendly. Delete ur BURST mining and start with Storj.
Good how many coins you mined mate?

And how you split your 30 TB storage for both Burst and Storj? 50 - 50 or what?

I have 10 TB storage planning to mine Burst coin but after hearing your experience I am planning to mine Storj.



Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Ultegra134 on March 22, 2018, 06:10:07 PM
Hi guys!

Like many of you guys ive mined with GPUs for over two years now, not on a mig scale, but as a hobby since i love the hardware parts of computers. Ive also used CPU mining, even tho its not profitable atm its still doable if you pick the right coin and hope to god it increases in value. If it doesnt, hey who cares. It was fun mining!
Anyway to the point.

I recently took up HDD mining. Or HDD Staking. Whatever you want to call it.
I did some research, and what i found out there are two big players here, Storj and Burst. For what ever reason i decided to try Storj. Since im a hardware freak i had about 30TB of harddrives laying around in my home, and now im completly set up and started mining.

There is not much about it on this forum, and the posts/topics that relate to HDD minig are outdated. Thats why i wanted to start this one.

What might i expect? Is it profitable? Is it laughable? Is the coin i chose "Storj" a joke?

Let me hear your inputs, toughts and maybe share some of your experience as we all always do in this community!
Wow, that's quite a lot of space you have there. Doesn't SiaCoin offer something similar? From what I've read, you basically share your HDDs by letting others use your allocated space and in return you are receiving SiaCoin, is it the same thing as the one you are mentioning?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: shield132 on March 22, 2018, 06:12:02 PM
Okey, i told you guys that i would come back after i mined both BURST and Storj for a month. Here it is : BURST is shit, it pays NOTHING and the coin itself is pretty useless. Storj on the other hand, it pays OK! Its definetly profitable if you only count electricity used for HDDs. The program used is also nice to use and user friendly. Delete ur BURST mining and start with Storj.
I have no experience in HDD mining and never/ever got interested to try it. Btw is burst really that shit? Because on Bitsler (gambling website) there was a massive request to add this coin as another currency for gambling.
How much profit do you get on mining storj? And on burst too?
Would continue old GPU mining, that's best to my mind.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: DannHomes on March 25, 2018, 05:40:05 AM

I have no experience in HDD mining and never/ever got interested to try it. Btw is burst really that shit? Because on Bitsler (gambling website) there was a massive request to add this coin as another currency for gambling.
How much profit do you get on mining storj? And on burst too?
Would continue old GPU mining, that's best to my mind.

The profit of mining Burst or Storj is not that much. I quit mining Storj because it seems my HDDs (a lot) were only filled by a bit mb for renting.
For mining Burst, adter the difficulty was up last December, each 100 Tb only give me ~6500 Burst if I calculate correctly.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: segotiwul on March 25, 2018, 05:56:31 AM
if we are looking for ASIC miners like L3 antminer, then we should return the investment we have. to expedite our obedience to the electric bill that is the responsibility of each of us.investors have tried their best in customer service.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Cryptoipad on March 25, 2018, 07:25:13 AM
I hope this hdd mining Burstcoin does not require CPU or GPU power mining Burstcoin require HDD space  the more, the better before you start to mine, you need to allocate HDD space for mining, which can take several hours but is done only once if you want to stop the mining, you can delete the allocated HDD files without any problems of some other business. you need to do some transactions on your wallet in order to be registered as a Burst coin user. Without is you won't be able to mining process.Now to the mining process click start Mining in your Burst Coin wallet. We have already set our mine so you don't have to choose it again from the dropdown list. Just click on the Start Mining on started to HDD mining process this system.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: ManicMiner23 on March 25, 2018, 07:42:42 AM
Hello.

What are the profits for hdd mining, is there any profit calculator?

Thanks.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: mindrust on March 25, 2018, 08:00:45 AM
Hello.

What are the profits for hdd mining, is there any profit calculator?

Thanks.

Profits are extremely low at the moment. Unless you have access to cheap hard drives or you already have them, HDD mining isn't profitable much. You can calculate here:
https://explore.burst.cryptoguru.org/tool/calculate

A 8tb HDD makes $4.5 in a month, a 8tb seagate ($150) ROI's itself in 30 months. ROI is way worse than GPU's. But there are some good news too; HDD's are futureproof. HDD development is much slower than GPU development and you don't have to worry about their power consumption. As long as you get them cheap, you can fill your room with them. GPU's have more coins to mine though. That's a weakness for BURST.

If you believe in the project there isn't any reason to get in now.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: ManicMiner23 on March 25, 2018, 09:57:46 AM
Hello.

What are the profits for hdd mining, is there any profit calculator?

Thanks.

Profits are extremely low at the moment. Unless you have access to cheap hard drives or you already have them, HDD mining isn't profitable much. You can calculate here:
https://explore.burst.cryptoguru.org/tool/calculate

A 8tb HDD makes $4.5 in a month, a 8tb seagate ($150) ROI's itself in 30 months. ROI is way worse than GPU's. But there are some good news too; HDD's are futureproof. HDD development is much slower than GPU development and you don't have to worry about their power consumption. As long as you get them cheap, you can fill your room with them. GPU's have more coins to mine though. That's a weakness for BURST.

If you believe in the project there isn't any reason to get in now.

A good question would be to know if is possible to dual mining gpu + hdd mining, in this case I would find it interesting as I can access some cheap or even free hdd's and it would be an extra profit to add to the gpu mining, if not, for me, does not worth it.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: mindrust on March 25, 2018, 10:21:45 AM
Hello.

What are the profits for hdd mining, is there any profit calculator?

Thanks.

Profits are extremely low at the moment. Unless you have access to cheap hard drives or you already have them, HDD mining isn't profitable much. You can calculate here:
https://explore.burst.cryptoguru.org/tool/calculate

A 8tb HDD makes $4.5 in a month, a 8tb seagate ($150) ROI's itself in 30 months. ROI is way worse than GPU's. But there are some good news too; HDD's are futureproof. HDD development is much slower than GPU development and you don't have to worry about their power consumption. As long as you get them cheap, you can fill your room with them. GPU's have more coins to mine though. That's a weakness for BURST.

If you believe in the project there isn't any reason to get in now.

A good question would be to know if is possible to dual mining gpu + hdd mining, in this case I would find it interesting as I can access some cheap or even free hdd's and it would be an extra profit to add to the gpu mining, if not, for me, does not worth it.

Yes you can do it in theory. If you saw my post from the 4th page, I was doing it just like you said.
One fan can cool 3 of your HDD's. Those seagates have 2 usb ports on the front panel. You can dial your fan there.

Waiting for the new 20xx GPU's and more money, so I can add more HDD's  8)

But for some reason something went wrong. My ping went too high. I started to have connection interruptions, started to get too many rejected shares and after a while wifi just didn't work at all. I couldn't keep it going. Whether it was a windows 10 problem or my usb wifi couldn't handle the statical electricity which was generated by the HDD's and my GPU I don't know. The problem was one of those I am sure.

Anyway I had to move my HDD's to my laptop again. I installed Win7 to my GPU PC and its working fine now. (without HDD's) Probably will try again later. (hate to carry hdd's between rooms. Installing w7 to a new mobo was also too cancerous , I'll probably let it run like this for a while.  >:() Will let you know about the outcome when (if) I do.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: shibob on March 28, 2018, 08:14:14 AM
I joined to mine Burst coin from last December. It's quite interesting as it consumes not much power.

https://i.imgur.com/xVBpNRM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4ns6Ldj.jpg


Hi mate, your rig setup is very cool, coolest burst rig I've ever seen for sure. So I wonder do you currently still keep mining Burst coin? Btw, for your Burst coin rigs, how's about your expected ROI? and also how much you need to pay for electric bill per month?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: shibob on March 28, 2018, 08:19:32 AM

One fan can cool 3 of your HDD's. Those seagates have 2 usb ports on the front panel. You can dial your fan there.

This is my mini rig:
https://i.imgur.com/L5oBTsT.jpg


But for some reason something went wrong. My ping went too high. I started to have connection interruptions, started to get too many rejected shares and after a while wifi just didn't work at all. I couldn't keep it going. Whether it was a windows 10 problem or my usb wifi couldn't handle the statical electricity which was generated by the HDD's and my GPU I don't know. The problem was one of those I am sure.


Hi, your setup looks very cool as well. Could you please share me what's that monitor? does it have HDMI? And you mean the rejected shares is for GPU right?

I am thinking to rent some of my HDDs to Storj but as far as I know it may take very long time to fill all the storage with Storj.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: mindrust on March 28, 2018, 10:26:44 AM

Hi, your setup looks very cool as well. Could you please share me what's that monitor? does it have HDMI? And you mean the rejected shares is for GPU right?

Rejected shares were GPU shares at first because blago HDD miner can submit shares as soon as its able to. You can only fail to submit if another block gets found before you submit your ongoing shares. (and there are mostly a few minutes between BURST blocks) Anyway then my connection became completely unstable. I wasn't even able to connect to the internet.

I didn't try it yet with win7, will do it today probably.

That monitor is a 7" raspberry pi monitor. Yes It has an HDMI port. The one in this link (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Raspberry-pi-7-inch-resistive-touchscreen-HDMI-Raspberry-pi-LCD-1024X600/32709827881.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.9.3eb75eebclpqOk&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10151_10065_10068_10344_10342_10343_10340_10341_10696_10084_10083_10618_10307_5711211_10313_10059_10534_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620,searchweb201603_50,ppcSwitch_4&algo_expid=aafcd7a6-f7af-4357-9e7f-c6a6f5b3dbfe-1&algo_pvid=aafcd7a6-f7af-4357-9e7f-c6a6f5b3dbfe&transAbTest=ae803_5&priceBeautifyAB=0).



Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: shibob on March 28, 2018, 12:34:30 PM

Rejected shares were GPU shares at first because blago HDD miner can submit shares as soon as its able to. You can only fail to submit if another block gets found before you submit your ongoing shares. Anyway then my connection became completely unstable. I wasn't even able to connect to the internet.

I didn't try it yet with win7, will do it today probably.

That monitor is a 7" raspberry pi monitor. Yes It has an HDMI port. The one in this link (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Raspberry-pi-7-inch-resistive-touchscreen-HDMI-Raspberry-pi-LCD-1024X600/32709827881.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.9.3eb75eebclpqOk&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10151_10065_10068_10344_10342_10343_10340_10341_10696_10084_10083_10618_10307_5711211_10313_10059_10534_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620,searchweb201603_50,ppcSwitch_4&algo_expid=aafcd7a6-f7af-4357-9e7f-c6a6f5b3dbfe-1&algo_pvid=aafcd7a6-f7af-4357-9e7f-c6a6f5b3dbfe&transAbTest=ae803_5&priceBeautifyAB=0).


Thank you very much! That portable Raspberry pi 7 inch LCD is exactly the thing I need now. Whenever I come to check my rigs, I always need to hand a long with 3kg monitor :((
For rejected share, I think in most block my miner could not meet the deadline as well, my total plotted files are around 80Tb. But the mined Burst is coming less recently, just ~3200 Burst per month.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: whoismoses on March 28, 2018, 12:38:19 PM
...my total plotted files are around 80Tb. But the mined Burst is coming less recently, just ~3200 Burst per month.

What pool are you using? I have 58tb plotted and getting about 2,700 BURST per month on POCC 0-100. I found I got more in 0-100 than in 50-50.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: shibob on March 28, 2018, 12:58:20 PM
...my total plotted files are around 80Tb. But the mined Burst is coming less recently, just ~3200 Burst per month.

What pool are you using? I have 58tb plotted and getting about 2,700 BURST per month on POCC 0-100. I found I got more in 0-100 than in 50-50.

I'm mining at pool.burstmining.club. I dont know how's about the pool rewards, normally I got average 55 Burst per day but even I found a block, I just got only around 830 Burst for that block.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: mindrust on April 01, 2018, 01:24:30 PM

Rejected shares were GPU shares at first because blago HDD miner can submit shares as soon as its able to. You can only fail to submit if another block gets found before you submit your ongoing shares. Anyway then my connection became completely unstable. I wasn't even able to connect to the internet.

I didn't try it yet with win7, will do it today probably.

That monitor is a 7" raspberry pi monitor. Yes It has an HDMI port. The one in this link (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Raspberry-pi-7-inch-resistive-touchscreen-HDMI-Raspberry-pi-LCD-1024X600/32709827881.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.9.3eb75eebclpqOk&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10151_10065_10068_10344_10342_10343_10340_10341_10696_10084_10083_10618_10307_5711211_10313_10059_10534_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620,searchweb201603_50,ppcSwitch_4&algo_expid=aafcd7a6-f7af-4357-9e7f-c6a6f5b3dbfe-1&algo_pvid=aafcd7a6-f7af-4357-9e7f-c6a6f5b3dbfe&transAbTest=ae803_5&priceBeautifyAB=0).


Thank you very much! That portable Raspberry pi 7 inch LCD is exactly the thing I need now. Whenever I come to check my rigs, I always need to hand a long with 3kg monitor :((
For rejected share, I think in most block my miner could not meet the deadline as well, my total plotted files are around 80Tb. But the mined Burst is coming less recently, just ~3200 Burst per month.

OK I made the tests. The rig works stable with Win7 while both HDD's and GPU are connected and mining coins. I am doing one thing different though. Instead of running nicehash, mining Raven now. Don't think it'll change anything. No signs of connection losses since last hour.

I didn't experience it myself till this month and now I know it.

Rumors are right. Win10 is just an incomplete trojan horse which they threw at us for free. Win7 is still the best OS they made.

*Maybe its too early to verify the situation, still gotta wait for a day at least*
Ok waited long enough. Yep w10 is shit.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: dimpsk on April 01, 2018, 02:09:07 PM
Hi guys!

Like many of you guys ive mined with GPUs for over two years now, not on a mig scale, but as a hobby since i love the hardware parts of computers. Ive also used CPU mining, even tho its not profitable atm its still doable if you pick the right coin and hope to god it increases in value. If it doesnt, hey who cares. It was fun mining!
Anyway to the point.

I recently took up HDD mining. Or HDD Staking. Whatever you want to call it.
I did some research, and what i found out there are two big players here, Storj and Burst. For what ever reason i decided to try Storj. Since im a hardware freak i had about 30TB of harddrives laying around in my home, and now im completly set up and started mining.

There is not much about it on this forum, and the posts/topics that relate to HDD minig are outdated. Thats why i wanted to start this one.

What might i expect? Is it profitable? Is it laughable? Is the coin i chose "Storj" a joke?

Let me hear your inputs, toughts and maybe share some of your experience as we all always do in this community!

It doesnot worth it,  forget it buddy.  HDD mining is just worse then CPU mining speaking frankly.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: whoismoses on April 01, 2018, 02:36:02 PM
It doesnot worth it,  forget it buddy.  HDD mining is just worse then CPU mining speaking frankly.

If prices stay static any kind of mining isn't worth getting into. That said, BURST mining wasn't a good venture to get into before recent pull back. That said, it is a little less risky as you can easily repurpose your HDs for a NAS.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: shibob on April 02, 2018, 09:27:16 AM

Rejected shares were GPU shares at first because blago HDD miner can submit shares as soon as its able to. You can only fail to submit if another block gets found before you submit your ongoing shares. Anyway then my connection became completely unstable. I wasn't even able to connect to the internet.

I didn't try it yet with win7, will do it today probably.

That monitor is a 7" raspberry pi monitor. Yes It has an HDMI port. The one in this link (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Raspberry-pi-7-inch-resistive-touchscreen-HDMI-Raspberry-pi-LCD-1024X600/32709827881.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.9.3eb75eebclpqOk&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10151_10065_10068_10344_10342_10343_10340_10341_10696_10084_10083_10618_10307_5711211_10313_10059_10534_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620,searchweb201603_50,ppcSwitch_4&algo_expid=aafcd7a6-f7af-4357-9e7f-c6a6f5b3dbfe-1&algo_pvid=aafcd7a6-f7af-4357-9e7f-c6a6f5b3dbfe&transAbTest=ae803_5&priceBeautifyAB=0).


Thank you very much! That portable Raspberry pi 7 inch LCD is exactly the thing I need now. Whenever I come to check my rigs, I always need to hand a long with 3kg monitor :((
For rejected share, I think in most block my miner could not meet the deadline as well, my total plotted files are around 80Tb. But the mined Burst is coming less recently, just ~3200 Burst per month.

OK I made the tests. The rig works stable with Win7 while both HDD's and GPU are connected and mining coins. I am doing one thing different though. Instead of running nicehash, mining Raven now. Don't think it'll change anything. No signs of connection losses since last hour.

I didn't experience it myself till this month and now I know it.

Rumors are right. Win10 is just an incomplete trojan horse which they threw at us for free. Win7 is still the best OS they made.

*Maybe its too early to verify the situation, still gotta wait for a day at least*
Ok waited long enough. Yep w10 is shit.

All of my GPU rigs are using Windows 10 actually, because as far as I know windows 7 has some issues if we add more than 4 GPUs on rig, I think it's quite the same even with windows 8, the only thing I dont like for new update of windows 10 is it contains too large window files (almost 40Gb for OS). My burst mining rig just uses an old mainboard and windows 7, I ever tried to run plotter in windows 10 but window defend stop it right away, even I changed some additional settings, the plotter kept crashing.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: dimpsk on April 02, 2018, 09:39:21 PM

Rejected shares were GPU shares at first because blago HDD miner can submit shares as soon as its able to. You can only fail to submit if another block gets found before you submit your ongoing shares. Anyway then my connection became completely unstable. I wasn't even able to connect to the internet.

I didn't try it yet with win7, will do it today probably.

That monitor is a 7" raspberry pi monitor. Yes It has an HDMI port. The one in this link (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Raspberry-pi-7-inch-resistive-touchscreen-HDMI-Raspberry-pi-LCD-1024X600/32709827881.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.9.3eb75eebclpqOk&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10151_10065_10068_10344_10342_10343_10340_10341_10696_10084_10083_10618_10307_5711211_10313_10059_10534_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620,searchweb201603_50,ppcSwitch_4&algo_expid=aafcd7a6-f7af-4357-9e7f-c6a6f5b3dbfe-1&algo_pvid=aafcd7a6-f7af-4357-9e7f-c6a6f5b3dbfe&transAbTest=ae803_5&priceBeautifyAB=0).


Thank you very much! That portable Raspberry pi 7 inch LCD is exactly the thing I need now. Whenever I come to check my rigs, I always need to hand a long with 3kg monitor :((
For rejected share, I think in most block my miner could not meet the deadline as well, my total plotted files are around 80Tb. But the mined Burst is coming less recently, just ~3200 Burst per month.

OK I made the tests. The rig works stable with Win7 while both HDD's and GPU are connected and mining coins. I am doing one thing different though. Instead of running nicehash, mining Raven now. Don't think it'll change anything. No signs of connection losses since last hour.

I didn't experience it myself till this month and now I know it.

Rumors are right. Win10 is just an incomplete trojan horse which they threw at us for free. Win7 is still the best OS they made.

*Maybe its too early to verify the situation, still gotta wait for a day at least*
Ok waited long enough. Yep w10 is shit.

All of my GPU rigs are using Windows 10 actually, because as far as I know windows 7 has some issues if we add more than 4 GPUs on rig, I think it's quite the same even with windows 8, the only thing I dont like for new update of windows 10 is it contains too large window files (almost 40Gb for OS). My burst mining rig just uses an old mainboard and windows 7, I ever tried to run plotter in windows 10 but window defend stop it right away, even I changed some additional settings, the plotter kept crashing.


Windows 10 is the best mining host, aye


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: ptjoy on April 04, 2018, 01:47:12 AM
Storj and Burst.

I tryed first mine Burst and hold it. Once it was pumped i sold out all of it. When price dumped, i decided that now is time to change all drives for Storj. And was disappointed. Storj did not use all capacity like burst (so calculator was wrong), but did very high intencity of load on hard disks and cpu. And i return back to burst.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: qwertyking on April 04, 2018, 03:46:44 AM
is it profitable now? could anyone tell me what is the ROI of a storj rig with 40T capacity?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: Cryptoipad on April 04, 2018, 04:09:48 AM
The Technically mining process initialy speaking GPU mining is better for profits than HDD mining. However, my thinking is that means getting in at the ground level in HDD mining where GPU mining is crowded. HDD's are always valuable regardless of the crypto market.Assuming you are doing this as an investment I think at the moment it's too soon to get a sensible system. Your electricity costs and potential fees for the static process will probably out spend rewards. Statiprocess can be obtained for free with good admin if you keep on top of the account. If that started should be relevent on HDD mining.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: shibob on April 04, 2018, 04:32:56 AM

I tryed first mine Burst and hold it. Once it was pumped i sold out all of it. When price dumped, i decided that now is time to change all drives for Storj. And was disappointed. Storj did not use all capacity like burst (so calculator was wrong), but did very high intencity of load on hard disks and cpu. And i return back to burst.

I happen to me few months ago as I tested to mine Storj in 2 weeks with 8 Tb: just few hundred kbs was filled, also it seems like my internet traffic was affected a lot by Storj mining even with that low of renting space.

is it profitable now? could anyone tell me what is the ROI of a storj rig with 40T capacity?

You could have a reference for profitable calculation on this site: https://blocks.fastpool.info/calculator

I suggest that you cut it 20%, so for 40Tb, with current difficulty level, you may get 1314 Burst coin, so 80% of that: 1314*0.8 = 1051 Burst => ~ 17$/month.

The Technically mining process initialy speaking GPU mining is better for profits than HDD mining. However, my thinking is that means getting in at the ground level in HDD mining where GPU mining is crowded. HDD's are always valuable regardless of the crypto market.Assuming you are doing this as an investment I think at the moment it's too soon to get a sensible system. Your electricity costs and potential fees for the static process will probably out spend rewards. Statiprocess can be obtained for free with good admin if you keep on top of the account. If that started should be relevent on HDD mining.

Totally agree with you. I'm mining Burst coin mostly for my hobby, also Burst Coin's community is very nice, I learned a lot from them, and the thing is I could collect around some cheap HDDs. The only thing to do in Burst coin mining is sitting there and wait money back, actually almost no ROI haha.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: dimpsk on April 04, 2018, 06:29:05 PM
The Technically mining process initialy speaking GPU mining is better for profits than HDD mining. However, my thinking is that means getting in at the ground level in HDD mining where GPU mining is crowded. HDD's are always valuable regardless of the crypto market.Assuming you are doing this as an investment I think at the moment it's too soon to get a sensible system. Your electricity costs and potential fees for the static process will probably out spend rewards. Statiprocess can be obtained for free with good admin if you keep on top of the account. If that started should be relevent on HDD mining.

It's a general words. Practically, HDD leasing return a bit less then nothing at all.
For example you can het 25SC in a month for 1TB disk space.
In another words - ya may earn 25 cents in a month. And ya shold be online 24*7 and you should pay for electricity,

I see you guys don't undestand what a ya talking  here.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: brunocrypto on May 10, 2018, 04:17:14 PM
Current Burst rentability using https://blocks.fastpool.info/calculator

4 TB = 128 Burst / Month    = 3.78$ (3.17€)
40 TB = 1279 Burst / Month = 37.18$ (31.7€)

It's so bad !!!

A 4TB here in France cost 99€ on Amazon.

Even if the machine is mining (and so we don't count electricity - 4 Watt consommation at rest) we get 99€ / 3.17 = 31 month....

It's not profitable at all, i hope it will be profitable in the future.

HDD Mining or Renting is a good bisness


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: known-user on January 15, 2019, 01:46:17 AM
i just stopped my burst mining rig at the beginning of this year. had around 40tb in it. the electricity was more than the earnings :(
sad to see it end up like this, but i guess that's how it goes with all mining rigs one day sooner or later.

for now i am going to sell the hdd's now that they are still worth something.

of course i could hook them up at my normal desktop but i prefer to keep that one clean and close this mining chapter for now.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: minerja on January 15, 2019, 07:59:57 AM
i just stopped my burst mining rig at the beginning of this year. had around 40tb in it. the electricity was more than the earnings :(
sad to see it end up like this, but i guess that's how it goes with all mining rigs one day sooner or later.

for now i am going to sell the hdd's now that they are still worth something.

of course i could hook them up at my normal desktop but i prefer to keep that one clean and close this mining chapter for now.

Hi, just wondering where you are in the world, i might be interested in those drives. I'm in the UK.


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: known-user on January 15, 2019, 12:38:05 PM
i just stopped my burst mining rig at the beginning of this year. had around 40tb in it. the electricity was more than the earnings :(
sad to see it end up like this, but i guess that's how it goes with all mining rigs one day sooner or later.

for now i am going to sell the hdd's now that they are still worth something.

of course i could hook them up at my normal desktop but i prefer to keep that one clean and close this mining chapter for now.

Hi, just wondering where you are in the world, i might be interested in those drives. I'm in the UK.

Pending sale already, sorry :)


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: roblowe91 on January 15, 2019, 12:43:47 PM
uk ebay by an chance?


Title: Re: Recently started to try HDD Mining
Post by: huntingthesnark on January 15, 2019, 12:59:36 PM
i just stopped my burst mining rig at the beginning of this year. had around 40tb in it. the electricity was more than the earnings :(
sad to see it end up like this, but i guess that's how it goes with all mining rigs one day sooner or later.

for now i am going to sell the hdd's now that they are still worth something.

of course i could hook them up at my normal desktop but i prefer to keep that one clean and close this mining chapter for now.

Hi, just wondering where you are in the world, i might be interested in those drives. I'm in the UK.

I was mining burst too, and have  a bunch of HDDs for sale. 10TB seagates, etc. Good quality. Dm for deets, UK based.