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Bitcoin => Hardware => Topic started by: sei on September 04, 2013, 10:05:06 AM



Title: Creating a Hashing chip?
Post by: sei on September 04, 2013, 10:05:06 AM
i started this out in the newbies forum but i recently got out of there so i thought here would be a better place to post.

my factory has an assembly line for ic/ chips but we were doing mostly receivers, lnb/ satellite tv accessories. we grab parts from china and assemble in indonesia so we have all needed equipment to assemble. labor is cheap here and i already have an assembly line for this sort of thing. i thought might aswell make some asic miners for u all.

my problem is the chip design/ acquiring the chips.  anyone know a good chip designer and anyone know a rough estimate?

anyone here want to help me out or knows about this sorta thing?


Title: Re: Creating a Hashing chip?
Post by: dan99 on September 04, 2013, 02:58:16 PM
Read up buddy, don't do the short cut or lazy way. make an effort and read the postings.


Title: Re: Creating a Hashing chip?
Post by: Dalkore on September 04, 2013, 04:06:11 PM
At this point if you don't develop for at least 28nm or smaller then it really is pointless and even at that point you may get your NRE back but your customer base may not achieve ROI. 


Title: Re: Creating a Hashing chip?
Post by: andrei.u on September 04, 2013, 04:12:06 PM
At this point if you don't develop for at least 28nm or smaller then it really is pointless and even at that point you may get your NRE back but your customer base may not achieve ROI. 

Let's see a 45nm REAL chip before asking for 28nm.....



Title: Re: Creating a Hashing chip?
Post by: Dalkore on September 04, 2013, 04:55:19 PM
At this point if you don't develop for at least 28nm or smaller then it really is pointless and even at that point you may get your NRE back but your customer base may not achieve ROI. 

Let's see a 45nm REAL chip before asking for 28nm.....



Maybe but I am starting to think doubtful because of the development time and the NRE associated.   Right now the trend seems to be die-shrinking. If it does come, I think it will likely be from the existing ASIC manufacturers who already have R&D sunk in and an existing pipeline.


Title: Re: Creating a Hashing chip?
Post by: Ytterbium on September 04, 2013, 06:20:13 PM
NRE costs are around a couple hundred thousand to a few million dollars, depending on the chip feature size (could be anywhere from 130nm to 28nm - or you could spend tens of millions and go all the way down to 14nm).

If you have that much money sitting around you can definitely do it. Otherwise you can acquire chips from companies that sell bulk chips.

Bitfury is probably the best bet, since they actually have chips and are selling them, although right now raw chips are 1BTC each: http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/bitfury-55nm-asic-chip-2/

Cointerra will be selling 28nm raw chips, you can order them here: http://cointerra.com/product/goldstrike1-25th-asic-pack-50-500ghsec-asics/