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Title: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: vossybiglady on February 04, 2018, 04:44:18 PM
Just a FYI I would be very careful sending in your passports to the HAVVEN airdrop.

You have been warned.

(This goes for all projects - Never give them your personal papers)



Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: kevoh on February 04, 2018, 04:54:41 PM
People losing their privacy because of airdrops/free money. I remember I had to discontinue with polymath's free airdrop because they were requesting for Intl. Passport/govt I.D for airdrops. It's just not worth it.

I have believe I have come across on a crypto forum where someone claimed to have over 30000+ data of people for sale. How else do you think these data ware farmed?


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: solarsun on February 04, 2018, 05:02:05 PM
Yup obviously a scam asking for KYC for an airdrop.  If people fall for this one they only have themselves to blame.  No proper project would ever involve their customers Passports.  It is polar opposite of what the crypto movement is about. 



Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: Fakayode1 on February 04, 2018, 05:02:12 PM
Stupidly of the highest order for the sake of airdrop i will drop or upload my personal information that is impossible i can't do that it is very risky.


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: ccsang on February 04, 2018, 05:05:04 PM
People losing their privacy because of airdrops/free money. I remember I had to discontinue with polymath's free airdrop because they were requesting for Intl. Passport/govt I.D for airdrops. It's just not worth it.

I have believe I have come across on a crypto forum where someone claimed to have over 30000+ data of people for sale. How else do you think these data ware farmed?
I think polymath don't have check the KYC is valid or not because I saw that people submit any fake passport/ID also receive their 250 token, if they don't check , Why need us to submit KYC ?


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: luffy7 on February 04, 2018, 05:09:45 PM
Its not even a good ICO anyway. not sure why ppl would do that for useless airdrop


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: bigdaddyderp on February 04, 2018, 05:16:20 PM
Its not even a good ICO anyway. not sure why ppl would do that for useless

Any airdrop/bounty/ICO asking for KYC is a bad project. 

Sometimes you have to stand up for Crypto for the next generation of enthusiasts.  Imagine if the guys that were here before us let KYC happen.  There would be nothing here for us.  Make the sacrifice guys and say no to KYC.  Help out the next batch of hopefuls.

GREED = Complying with KYC and letting it establish itself so you can make a few bucks.

Crypto needs your help.  Say no to this and all projects requiring it.  You don't even know who on earth your sending it too or who will have access. 



Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: siddartha1492 on February 04, 2018, 05:16:51 PM
KYC for airdrop!! Never heard that before. I guess only noobs will provide their passports for a random token.

That being said, sometimes ICOs really need to get KYC informaton in order to avoid any kind of future Govt. regulations and to make sure that their project runs smoothly.

For example, recently StormX ICO did KYC for all their investors. I was one of the investors and I completed my KYC. I did it because they had a product running for past 4 years and were professional team. Subsequently they raised $35M in their ICO. But that was an exception. Providing identity info to every other project seems like a stupid idea to me.


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: mariomerula on February 04, 2018, 05:16:59 PM
I will not give my data sure for an Airdrop.... even if also in some bounties they ask now for KYC....


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: ghonkz on February 04, 2018, 05:18:45 PM
KYC is serious thing, i mean if you submit it for really legit project and that projects seems to have bright future its fine. But if that KYC just for claim few airdrop token or fake project, dont do it. just dont.


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: kriptonii1 on February 04, 2018, 05:26:36 PM
Things with KYC are going bad. Everyone wants your passport and who knows where it goes and who has the means to use it in order to harm you...

The most I give for airdrop is email, nationality and my name. Passport is just too much!!!


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: StephKram on February 04, 2018, 05:28:54 PM
KYC is serious thing, i mean if you submit it for really legit project and that projects seems to have bright future its fine. But if that KYC just for claim fewtoken or fake project, dont do it. just dont.

Surprised your willing to to give up your papers even if the ICO is hot.  You have no recourse if something happens to your documents.  Seems better to wait for the eventual dump and buy them on the exchange and keep your identity safe.  

What about the anonymous nature of crypto currency?  Do you think about that as you send your documents in.  You may be screwing it up for the future.  Please think about the long term before you rush off to make a few bucks.  If KYC is mandatory for crypto in general the movement is lost and you may as well use fiat.  Very unfortunate.

Our masters know how greedy we are and swoop right in.  LOL  Reminds me of the song stuck in the middle with you.  I can't escape the stupidity.  UGH


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: strongman8 on February 04, 2018, 06:03:29 PM
Great job guys calling out this KYC nonsense.  Crypto is to be anonymous.

My personal plea is this:  Think about the long term guys.  If you sell out your identity now everyone that comes after you will have to do the same thing.  That's the system we have now.  It's not good at all and if we give up this opportunity to protect our identity and freedom then shame on us.  We will be the generation that gave it up for our kids.

I know there are some money grabs out there and you could profit.  How about leaving a little on the table and help the future out by outright banning projects that attempt this.  9 times out of 10 you can get it at ICO price when it starts on the market.  That's the WIN/WIN





Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: Havven on February 05, 2018, 01:34:18 AM
Hi everyone, we'll respond to your concerns momentarily.


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: cryptodrei on February 05, 2018, 01:44:26 AM
Why would an airdrop will require your ID?sounds like scam oh no! ;D im pretty sure any airdrop that has KYC process is a joke,ICOs will only require KYC so they can protect themselves to multi registrants abusive investors,if you dont want to lose your privacy do not participate any ICOs that needs KYC verification because if the data has leaked your IDs might be used to identity thefts.


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: w5pn73 on February 05, 2018, 02:00:56 AM
I really wonder how many people on bitcointalk have been a victim of identity theft thus far.


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: Thadeous on February 05, 2018, 02:06:51 AM
The only ICO stage that I find acceptable for sending KYC is the end of ICO.
KYC definitly shouldn't be requested at ICO pre-sale or airdrop!


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: HaekalZ on February 05, 2018, 02:12:27 AM
Just a FYI I would be very careful sending in your passports to the HAVVEN airdrop.

You have been warned.

(This goes for all projects - Never give them your personal papers)



i also joined another bounty that requesting my passport as KYC Verification,
But if they ask your passport and the end of ICO, i don't think it's a big problem or scam.


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: askmecrypto on February 05, 2018, 02:46:52 AM
Lending your identity for change money is never worth.
Only if you are genuinely interested in an ICO which do have a standardized procedure of validating your identity with KYC and over a contract that the details will not/never be shared outside the scope of project are worth.
Most of the exchanges and good ICOs require KYC, the reason being regulations being put up by national governments.


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: Havven on February 05, 2018, 03:02:55 AM
Hi everyone,
there's a reply to the concerns around KYC in the ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2702470 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2702470)


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: IgniHash on February 05, 2018, 03:14:00 AM
Just a FYI I would be very careful sending in your passports to the HAVVEN airdrop.

You have been warned.

(This goes for all projects - Never give them your personal papers)

Interesting, but do you have any proof about your statement? I am joined their airdrop last day. I know they need KYC like Polymath airdrop did. Havven got a lot of telegram users within 3 hours because of thier airdrop event.

But if your statement is true, so this is embarrassing.


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: Mevz on February 05, 2018, 03:44:21 AM
We don't know but it was stated there on their airdrop form that they will use KYC/AML checks to know fraud attempts or fake users. Why this new airdrops provide KYC our privacy now is not safe. We should avoid to give KYC for that intention I am not saying that they are scammers but we must be aware that possible things may happen easily in the cyber world.





Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: RDNX on February 05, 2018, 03:48:47 AM
We don't know but it was stated there on their airdrop form that they will use KYC/AML checks to know fraud attempts or fake users. Why this new airdrops provide KYC our privacy now is not safe. We should avoid to give KYC for that intention I am not saying that they are scammers but we must be aware that possible things may happen easily in the cyber world.

i also disagree about KYC. I got an email after joined their airdrop, this is what i got:

Quote
When will I get my Airdrop tokens?

In the next few weeks, you will receive an email from us directing you to complete a KYC/AML check, which is an identity verification measure to prevent money laundering. This is compulsory to receive your airdrop tokens. You'll receive your tokens in the week after the token sale, which occurs from February 28 to March 6, 2018.

So, i think this is not an airdrop, this is trade your privacy with shit tokens. Period!


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: rachman mahesa on February 05, 2018, 04:39:46 AM
We should always be careful about this. Because if our data obtained by others and in use of people who are not responsible will be dangerous for those who have identity in the data.


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: Duzenn on February 05, 2018, 04:49:41 AM
Do it need KYC data for airdrops now?
This sounds crazy. Most of the airdrop is now a scam. Does the airdrop need KYC data just to defraud KYC data?


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: Acguy on February 05, 2018, 05:02:45 AM
I feel like this is a growing problem and people need to be more careful but also don't get greedy with the airdrops because most of them are now scams.


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: sltshp on February 05, 2018, 05:10:52 AM
Yeah be very wary about giving personal info...its not worth the risk to have your personal data stolen in exchange for a few coins.


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: Kaiynne on February 08, 2018, 01:03:43 PM
We have listened to the feedback and removed the requirement for KYC on the airdrop. We initially were not going to have KYC and then decided to as a way of preventing fake signups, but we have found a better solution. Thanks for the feedback, I support personal privacy and the ability to transact in a permissionless fashion, it was a mistake to require KYC for the airdrop when we could use a different approach to reduce fraud and protect participants.


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: andor.gellenhidi on February 08, 2018, 01:13:41 PM
In general, I think that the KYC process is not a transparent and illegal process, which collects personal data of people. Where they will be kept and who will be used, God only knows. Be careful.


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: pharaon on February 08, 2018, 01:34:16 PM
There is no doubt that the KYC test is alarming. But I do not understand one thing, why people are so outraged if you can just not be there. You are given free coins like Polymath and you can get $ 250. This is just your choice, go participate in the airdrop where there is no this check.


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: KuromaYoichi on February 08, 2018, 01:36:47 PM
People are insane if they give their identification to get some random airdrops, it's not worth the risk so stop giving away your important data. I can understand if an ico need a kyc for their investor because it's to follow the regulation but airdrop is a worthless project with close to no aim and they don't need kyc at all.


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: De_nis on February 08, 2018, 01:44:23 PM
I am fill in yesterday Airdrop HAVVEN and I did not require KYC, maybe the gansters make a clone of this project?
Regards Denis


Title: Re: HAVVEN is a KYC scam to gain your personal data
Post by: Valer4ik on February 08, 2018, 03:58:42 PM
Also took part in Airdrop but KYC was not required ... but still what they initially required is quite suspicious .. I participate in their bounty program .. so tell me this is Scam or not?